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2021  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Know it that market is speculative on: May 22, 2023, 11:37:02 PM
Whatever we do, everything here in crypto remains speculative. In fact, nobody here is ever sure that a project will turn scam but because our minds are proactive and very speculative, we can assess whether that particular project is a scam or not based on its performance and project designs. A reason why crypto investment never guarantees 100% secure, it is risky, and this kind of nature can't ever be changed even in the future. That is why we have to choose the project/s that gives us some assurance at least we also have a bigger chance to earn a profit, not losses.
Indeed. Each project can be dead or turn to be scammed at any time, no coin is 100% secure (especially altcoins). Even Bitcoin is possible to be dead due to some reasons. So, surely every investment in crypto coins is speculative. That's why crypto investment is categorized as a high-risk investment. However, we can learn how to deal with these conditions in crypto. At least, we learn the current issues about each coin we want to invest in and update the information about crypto as a whole. We also need to learn the price history of the coins we want to hold, so we can make a plan about the target. We mustn't hold the coins forever, there should be a short-term holding and a long-term holding. Choose the appropriate coins according to the target of holding them.

2022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Teaching children Bitcoin is not in vain on: May 22, 2023, 11:25:19 PM
I also support bitcoin education for children. However, as you said, bitcoin is related to money, and it is very easy to harm children if we are negligent and not really serious about imparting knowledge to children. Education about finance and bitcoin also needs to be educated at the right age, not indiscriminately taught. I find it ridiculous that many people applaud and support teaching bitcoin to 4- and 5-year-olds.
Yep. It is not necessary to teach children below 5 years about Bitcoin investment. Children 4-5 years old prefer to learn about common things around our environment, it is not the right time to learn about finance or investment. At least, they are already in Senior High school, at this age they have the ability to understand more serious things such as investment, finance, money management, etc. Sure, learning our children about Bitcoin is okay as long as we teach them about it at a proper age.

2023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 21, 2023, 11:59:22 PM
The Valencia victory today  against Real Madrid was merely a matter of luck because, in my opinion, Real Madrid's performance was superior than Valencia's and as a result, Real Madrid was the team that deserved to win the match. I was astonished by Valencia's for protecting their one goals scored from 30+minute to 90+minute despite Real Madrid attempts to score.i am soo happy toward Valencia  victory over Real Madrid today  because this  victory have  gave the team some little more hope that the team may remain in laliga 1 but still Valencia need   to work hard to win it remaining three games in order to free from relegating.
No, it is not about luck but it is a big effort. You can see Valencia try to create some shot opportunities although they are difficult to win the ball possessions. I think Valencia deserves to win, winning the match doesn't always dominate the match. Against a strong team like Real Madrid, Valencia can't dominate the match but they can steal goals by using counter-attack tactics. In this match, Valencia looks successful to use this tactic. 1 goal is enough to win the match and get important 3 points.

Anyway, you actually admit that Valencia played quite well, you said you are amazed (astonished) by their hard effort to defend a single goal to win the match. It simply showed that you admit Valencia deserves to win.

2024  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Duelbits.com | Signature Campaign ~ Full Members+ | Up to $70/Week on: May 21, 2023, 11:35:18 PM
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I'm okay for Full Member or Senior Member spot. Smiley



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2025  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I am only trying to stay safe by gambling less on: May 21, 2023, 11:30:58 PM
I am not a gambling addict but some friends are making me look like one because I gamble less and they gamble more, it all started when we got into an argument that investing in Bitcoin is not the same as gambling, my friends who are gamblers, not full-time but more of a gambler than I am, are claiming that there is no difference between investing and gambling, they said if all you doing is investing money on Bitcoin you are no different to those who are gambling in a casino.

Still, I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.

Furthermore, I told them that Bitcoin investors tend to get positive results, while online casino gamblers tend to get negative results more than positive result, true or false?
Since it is own perception, you don't need to make it too serious. If they believe that investing in Bitcoin is like gambling, let them trust their assumptions. You just need to tell them the truth once. If they refuse it, then you don't need to argue about it anymore. It is difficult to argue with people who are not open-minded, you will get nothing.

They won't accept that playing gambling may end up with negative results. They are not aware that they are addicts, which that proves they don't realize the negative results/impacts. Even if you explain with any reason, I doubt you will make them understand the difference.

My suggestion, you just need to stop arguing with them.  Cheesy

2026  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why so many mixers all of a sudden? on: May 20, 2023, 12:46:53 AM
So, you are wrong to say that a lot of Bitcoin mixers were lounched this year. Most of them have existed, but they have not been advertised on the forum yet through signatures.
Agree. Most Bitcoin mixers already existed before this year, they just become popular now since they are promoted in this forum now. Why they are just promoted/advertised currently? It probably has a correlation with the fall of Chipmixer. Chipmixer is the most popular mixer previously, people even only know Chipmixer as a Bitcoin mixer. It is impossible to compete Chipmixer in this forum, especially when it was promoted by almost all top members. When it is fallen, those Bitcoin mixers have a chance to be popular mixers. So, they pushed efforts by advertising them through the signature campaign in this forum.

Also, the reason for more Bitcoin mixers being in existence is to increase anonymity in Bitcoin transactions. For example, if there are people who have passed different KYCs on different platforms where they bought their Bitcoin, those platforms can still track the individual through their KYC details and login IP, but if, after buying Bitcoin on CEX, you mix your Bitcoin on the mixer, your coin cannot be tracked again because the mixers help to protect their privacy.
The need for privacy may also be another reason. Moreover, there are many issues about hackers, people are afraid about their Bitcoin assets. One of the ways to prevent hackers is people use mixers to make their Bitcoins unable to track. Towards the bullrun season, people add more Bitcoin to their wallets. So, the demand for mixers is raising due to this matter.

2027  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [Bounty 2.0] COMBO Network ex COCOS-BCX | 🚀 100k USD Worth of Tokens 🚀 LISTED on: May 19, 2023, 11:19:52 PM
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2028  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Duelbits.com | Signature Campaign ~ Full Members+ | Up to $70/Week on: May 19, 2023, 10:51:23 PM
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I'm okay for Full Member or Senior Member spot. Smiley

2029  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE] on: May 15, 2023, 12:58:07 PM
Saya lihat sudah banyak sekali pengajuan review, tapi belum ada yang mereview. Saya coba untuk mereview 2 pengajuan review yang terkahir karena pengajuan-pengajuan yang sebelumnya saya kira sudah cukup banyak diberikan merit, artinya mungkin post-postnya sudah dicek oleh banyak orang. Semoga review saya bisa memberikan manfaat bagi yang mengajukan khususnya.  Smiley

Saya memohon izin kembali untuk membuat pengajuan postingan yang pastinya untuk di review oleh rekan-rekan sekalian.
1. Post informatif yang berisikan informasi positif untuk dunia crypto, khususnya di Indoensia. Sangat menarik jika makin banyak orang-orang penting yang memberikan statement bagus atau mendukung keberadaan crypto. Dengan melihat informasi ini, semakin menambah minat orang-orang untuk bergabung di investasi/trading crypto.

+5 merit sepertinya sudah sangat cukup

2. Ada banyak ragam cara penipu untuk menjebak orang-orang. Chat ini merupakan cara klasik, mereka menargetkan orang-orang yang kurang pengalaman dan minim wawasan. Tapi untuk yang sudah lama berkecimpung di dunia crypto, cara ini kecil kemungkinan berhasil karena penawarannya tidak rasional.

+1 merit sepertinya cukup, informasi masih terbilang umum.

3. Sudah ada yang menjelaskan tentang Bitcoin merupakan harta dan besaran zakatnya. Cek lagi post-post sebelumnya.

4. Kurang penjelasan terkait informasi yang dishare. Lebih baik dijelaskan dulu terperinci baru mengarah ke hal-hal lain.

5. Penjelasan yang bagus, juga ada referensi. Namun perlu data-data atau referensi lebih untuk mendukung narasinya. Asumsi masalah cepat kelar dengan menyewa pengacara belum tentu benar, kecuali ada alasan lain dibalik itu.

6. Argumen yang baik dan juga ada tambahan data. Hanya saja saya tidak mendapatkan kesimpulan yang jelas dari penjelasan secara keseluruhan.

7. Penjelasannya tidak menjawab pertanyaan yang ada.

8. +1 penjelasan yang baik, juga disertai data pendukung.

9. Skip

10. Skip


Saya juga mohon izin untuk menitip 10 posting untuk di review yang telah saya persiapkan untuk rounde pertama pada thread help ini.
1. Common sense

2. Saya tidak mendapatkan kesimpulan yang jelas. Jika ujung-ujungnya menyuruh bertanya ke ulama di wilayah masing-masing, untuk apa kita buat diskusinya di sini.

3. Bagi saya memecoin tidak layak untuk investasi, baik jangka pendek maupun jangka panjang. Koin yang hanya mengandalkan hype terlalu beresiko, tidak ada kepastian perkembangan harganya. Harga bisa drop kapanpun secara signifikan, dan bisa juga naik drastis kapan pun ada hype. Terlalu beresiko untuk investasi, apalagi masih pemula.

4. Meski bounty masih menghasilkan, namun sudah tidak seworth dulu. Ada baiknya tidak terlalu berlebihan berharap dari bounty, mending fokus ke investasi koin crypto saja. Btw untuk membangun akun, tidak hanya perlu pengetahuan dan pengalaman. Hal lain yang penting adalah seperti komitmen dan semangat pantang menyerah. Membangun akun itu tidak instan, butuh waktu dan kerja keras.

5. Informasi yang berguna +1.

6. Skip

7. Sebaiknya sertakan penjelasannya juga. Tidak hanya memberikan opsi. Bisa jadi yang bertanya masih tidak paham dengan detailnya.

8. Common sense

9. Skip

10. Tidak ada yang salah jikapun memilih altcoins untuk investasi long term. Hanya saja perhatikan faktor fundamentalnya, pastikan hanya memilih koin dengan faktor fundamental yang bagus. Jangan memilih koin meme, koin dengan fundamental lemah, atau koin yang cuman mengandalkan hype.



Masing-masing saya berikan +2 merit. Post sudah cukup baik kualitasnya, namun sebaiknya dilengkapi lagi dengan lebih banyak referensi/data. Semakin banyak referensi/data, maka semakin kuat dan meyakinkan argumen/statemen yang kita buat.

Terima kasih @Ratimov yang sudah kembali berkontribusi memberikan merit untuk apresiasi ke member-member yang mengajukan apply di SFI.  Smiley



Mohon maaf jika review saya tidak seperti yang diharapkan. Sukses selalu untuk semua member SFI.  Smiley

2030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 14, 2023, 11:56:33 PM
I don't think with Osimehn agree for joining with Chelsea next season without participants in Champion League, indeed has chance depend on transfer offering from Chelsea and Napoli will priority about which one serious teams and has higher offering will get chance for signing Osimehn. But, Chelsea not participants yet in Europe League and Champion League next season become ambition for all player want to show their performance on Champion League. Seems rumor only only about Osimehn move to Chelsea next season however they have new center forward Christopher Nkunku have reach agreement deal last year and will be Chelsea players next season.
Agree. No chance for Osimhen to move to Chelsea. He should prefer to stay in Napoli if he only has the option to move to Chelsea. Osimhen should prefer to choose the offers from bigger teams such as Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, PSG, Man United, or AC Milan. A top striker like Osimhen must target to win UCL title and league title, he won't move to a club that seems hard to win the trophy. Moreover, if the team doesn't participate in international competitions (UCL, Europa league). It is only a rumor that Osimhen to move t Chelsea, he should never dream to be a part of the current Chelsea squad.

2031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: May 14, 2023, 11:50:02 PM


Benzema, Rodrygo and Alaba all are injured now and will not play against Manchester City as it seems. This must be a huge disappointment for Real Madrid. Because they are all critical players for Real Madrid now. Benzema and Rodrygo are already very important in the attacking line but now they will nearly completely rely on Vinicius Junior from now on. Ancelotti will use the same strategy again as it seems.  Grin

Alaba looked also decent about defending Haaland in the first leg. In his absence Rudiger will have a bigger responsibility to keep him away from scoring goals. He was successful in the first leg maybe but here his job might be harder. I'm seeing Manchester City closer to the finale now.
It will be a disaster if these 3 important players can play in the match against Man City in Leg 2 (May 18). These 3 players are the key players and Real Madrid will get a serious problem if they are injured, especially for the attacking line. We must know Benzema is irreplaceable, Rodrygo is the most shining winger, and Alaba has a crucial role in the defense line. Missing these players means losing the chance of winning against Man City. To bo honest, I can't imagine how Real Madrid to play without them.  Cry


2032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: May 14, 2023, 11:43:01 PM
The match ended 2-4 in favor of Barcelona. Making it the first Laliga title sealed by Barcelona under Xavi as head coach.
Yes, by winning the match against Espanyol, Barcelona is officially the champion of La Liga this season. Xavi has done a great job, he leads Barcelona to win again La Liga title. If Xavi can keep the quality of the squad in the next season, they may win again the La Liga title for the next season. I just hope that Xavi doesn't satisfy too early with his achievement. So, he still has a big desire to win other titles for the next season.

Looks like we have been slightly wrong about Sevilla. Tongue That was a solid win but I didn't expect it. I was sure that Sevilla would change lots of players and put emphasis on regeneration rather than keeping them on the pitch, but that can also be the right choice.
There is a big decrease in Sevilla performance during this season. It is lucky that they can return to the top 10.
Yes, I also expect that there will be a change in Sevilla squad for the next season. The current squad looks not convincingly to compete for the next season. They need to rebuild their squad if Sevilla wants to be a strong team again.

2033  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trading is perfect work for jobless peoples on: May 14, 2023, 11:31:54 PM
Of course, trading can be a potential earning job but the question is how these jobless people survive in a situation where trading never guarantees profit every day. They might start trading today but later on, they still then quit and take their money back as they can't hold. Because trading is not suitable for impatient people, not suitable for those who wanted to earn profit daily, and if we are looking into such thing, then trading is not the right place for them.
It is better to not rely on day trade for monthly income. We must have a main job in real life. Not every day we can earn profits from day trade, sometimes we must get losses. Even if someone can be patient, it is not enough to get money from trading. I guess even experienced traders must have main jobs in real life, they only trade for additional income. As far as I know, trading isn't an instant way to get money.

2034  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Best Altcoins to Buy During Dip on: May 14, 2023, 11:27:23 PM
Now i don’t believe such ICO rating site, i think these are manipulated and if you will pay money then your project will get five star rating, back in 2018 when it was an ICO era, when i followed IcoBench & IcoDrops, i invested in many project by these site rating but now ICO is dead and now i have doubt about those site rating.
Yes, ICO ratings can't be trusted, they easily manipulate the ratings. There were already many cases of paid ratings for certain ICO projects. So, we simply avoid trusting the rating points given by ICO ratings. We are better to take own research to know the deeply the projects, ignore them if there is something suspicious with the projects.

Litecoin has a halving in August and in theory it can give a good profit, or maybe not.
What halving do you mean?
I only know Bitcoin halving, never heard about altcoins halving.

2035  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [DISKUSI] Proyek Kripto Scam asal Indonesia on: May 14, 2023, 11:13:35 PM
proyek kripto di indonesia memang masih tidak jauh-jauh dari skema ponzi, banyak oknum yang tidak bertanggung jawab mengambil kesempatan ketika crypto baru booming di indonesia, sedangkan kurangnya wawasan di masyarakat mengenai proyek crypto menyebabkan hal ini bisa terjadi. selain itu banyak juga  selebriti yang mulai membuat coin mereka sendiri, padahal coin mereka tidak memiliki utility sama sekali, hanya menjual nama dari selebriti tersebut saja.
Mereka para selebriti tau bahwa dengan popularitasnya bisa membuat hype koin crypto yang mereka buat. Apalagi di Indonesia, banyak fans-fans fanatik yang selalu mendukung apapun yang selebriti lakukan. Makanya mereka para selebritis bisa dengan mudah memanfaatkan crypto yang baru booming di Indonesia. Cukup banyak orang-orang awam yang ikut join crypto selebritis, mereka hanya bermodal percaya dengan artis dan berharap ingin sukses seperti mereka. Mereka tidak tau bahwa selebritis cuman memanfaatkan momen, dan tidak terlihat benar-benar serius dengan proyek cryptonya. Ya, mereka cuman jual nama dan omongan manis.

2036  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Most] Member Yang Mencetak lebih dari 10 Legendary di Forum ini on: May 11, 2023, 11:59:21 PM
berambisi untuk mendapatkan lebih dari 10 ribu merit juga tidak pernah terlintas di benak saya mas, karena membuat itu sebagai target, nyaris mustahil bagi saya hahaha. bisa naik sampai ke rank legendary aja udah syukur bagi saya.
Makanya itu gan, saya pun tidak ada impian sampe 10.000 merit. Walaupun itu sangat keren, tapi saya sadar diri dengan kemampuan saya. Hanya para expert crypto atau member istimewa forum yang bisa mencapainya. Member biasa seperti kita ini, syukur-syukur bisa mencapai 1.000 merit. Artinya rank legend target tertinggi yang rasional untuk dicapai.

pengalaman saya sih kesibukan di dunia nyata dan juga mood yang naik turun yang membuat kualitas postingan saya tidak stabil, namun mau gimana lagi, di paksakan pun bakal susah, untuk sekarang sih saya lebih menikmati proses nya aja lah (mendapatkan merit dan naik rank secara perlahan).
Sama saja, gan. Saya juga kadang tidak terlalu aktif di forum kalau sedang banyak kerjaan di real life. Namanya jadi kuli, tidak bisa kerjaan yang menyesuaikan dengan aktivitas kita. Kita yang harus menyesuaikan dengan jadwal kerjaan di real life. Ya kalau lagi sibuk, jangankan mau bikin post berkualitas, log in aja kadang-kadang.  Grin

2037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: May 11, 2023, 11:53:42 PM
The difference was that Leverkusen didn't score the goal with their first huge chance whereas Roma did score the goal.
Yes, it is a big difference. A single goal makes Roma win the match. Although it is only 1 goal, it is an advantage for AS Roma for Leg 2.

Leverkusen had a very good start into the first half with a big opportunity to take the lead right after the game started and afterwards I think you could really see who the coach of Leverkusen is. Xabi Alonso is trying to let his team play exactly how the Spanish national team played back at the time. I must say it was looking great, but they couldn't create chances, which is the problem that many teams have even when they have a lot of ball possession. You need the players who can possess the ball, but also use is creatively.
The tactic was good, Leverkusen created some good chances.
But the players' quality made them score 0 goals. Xabi must consider to changes some Leverkusen attackers in Leg 2. If the attackers can be calmer and have good shooting accuracy, Leverkusen may win the match in Leg 2.

Still the 1-0 almost means nothing. The game in Leverkusen will be difficult for Roma.
It means a lot, 1 goal makes AS Roma leads the aggregate. If AS Roma players can score 1 goal in the early next match, I assume they are safe for the final round.

2038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: May 11, 2023, 11:43:41 PM
Manchester United are said to be worried about the possibility that they might not be able to sign Kane this summer. Because Tottenham still don't seem willing to let him go easily. It is up to Kane's statement from now on as well. Actually he said something on the current condition of the team. But he didn't put it in a way like he wanted to leave the team from now on or said that he was open to offers.
Tottenham will always try to keep Kane, they don't want to lose him although Kane wants to leave. Man United should try bigger efforts, they can make a higher offer for Kane's transfer fees if Man United is serious to sign him. There are some clubs that want to sign Harry Kane, Man United must give a more interesting offer. I am sure Tottenham may consider letting him move if there is an interesting offer. I don't know how big Man United wants to make an offer for Harry Kane. It depends on Man United, they will fail if they don't want to spend big money.

2039  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How long the high transaction fees will last? on: May 11, 2023, 11:31:39 PM
As a gambler I think we should look for better options for deposits/withdrawals until the mempool is not congested. Although as we can see right now, it seems that it has been settling down a bit as the whole ordinal inscriptions and Brc-20 fad might died down a bit.
It should be normal again in the next few weeks, just wait for the time. For now, as some people said that it is better to use altcoins when Bitcoin transfer fee is still high. There are some altcoins that have smaller transfer fees, just utilize them for now.

We can't predict exactly how long these high fees will last, but I think this BTC has experienced similar situations in the past and has eventually come out on the other side. The same goes for the price of BTC you cannot predict it in the market situation. But as far as I remember, it could be less than a week, look at now the mempool.space, the fee was falling down.
Of course, it is difficult to know how long this happens.
However, this high fee problem should be fixed. It will be a serious obstacle for Bitcoin adoption if it won't get a solution.

We already experienced many times about high transfer fees, it won't last a very long time.

2040  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Most] Member Yang Mencetak lebih dari 10 Legendary di Forum ini on: May 10, 2023, 11:58:58 PM
Apa yang telah dicapai top 5 member tersebut selalu menjadi motivasi bagi semua user yang masih aktif di forum. Semua user sangat ingin menjadi anggota mapan di forum dengan segudang prestasi, masalahnya tingkat pengetahuan dan cara berpikir masing-masing individu yang berbeda menjadi salah satu hambatan terbesar dalam meraih pencapaian yang telah diraih top 5 member tersebut.
Kalau secara umum, pencapaian top 5 member tersebut tidak akan menjadi motivasi bagi semua member. Paling yang meritnya sudah ribuan yang punya ekspektasi untuk mencapai hal yang sama dengan mereka. Saya sendiri tidak termotivasi untuk mencapai 10.000 merit, bagi saya itu sepertinya mustahil. Bisa sampai 1.000 merit saja sudah hal yang luar biasa, itupun saya sudah sangat bersyukur sekali. Target saya 500 merit, harapannya bisa sampe dalam 1-2 tahun.  Grin

Meskipun itu bisa menjadi motivasi, tapi saya nggak berpikir semua orang punya semangat yang sama. Contohnya saya, begitu jadi Sr. Member saya malah cenderung jadi malas.
Semangat naik turun itu hal yang lumrah, tidak aneh. Banyak faktor yang mempengaruhi semangat seseorang, bukan hanya terkait pencapaian. Ada yang menjadi terlihat kurang semangat karena faktor kesibukan kerja, masalah pribadi, atau mood kurang baik. Tidak mesti karena telah mencapai target menjadi kurang semangat, bisa jadi karena faktor lain.

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