provenceday you seem to be bumping this thread more than anyone else and I take it you are Chinese. And the English on the OP is not very good. Are the devs Chinese? If so it makes me a little weary. Chinese can be very bu kao pu.
it's true i am not a native English Speaker. if you find something wrong in the table, Please tell me, i will correct it.  it's just a quick guide for all Anon coin. A simple summary, maybe i make some mistake, but noboday know everything. |
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if i make a mistake, Please correct it in this thread,i will then correct it ASAP. nobody know everything. it's just a quick start for Anon coin. you can add more in this table. thank you very much.  |
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I'll be surprised if we don't see at least 10k tomorrow, at least temporarily.
do you mean this? Anon coin summary(not include cryptonote coin)Dark coin（Anon Wallet ） price：0.016BTC （1680K satoshi）
XC coin（Anon Wallet） Price：0.0013BTC （135K satoshi）
Vericoin（No Anon Wallet） Price：0.00015BTC （15K satoshi）
CryptCoin （No Anon Wallet） Price：0.0019BTC （190K satoshi）
CloakCoin（ Anon Wallet） Price：0.0002BTC （200K satoshi）
Supercoin（Anon Wallet） Price：0.00003BTC （3K satoshi）So we still have a long way to go...Thanks for not adjusting for total coin supply and misreading the price...
here we go.... |
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XC already has the P2P anonymous feature in the wallet code now.. It will be enabled for user to user anonymous transactions (no masternode required) in an upcoming release
This is fucking huge!! Anonymous transactions which are directly person to person with no masternode required! Best decision I ever made, backing this coin + dev. Basically this feature creates a new set of keys[one-time use] for the receiver --- which the sender users for this specific transaction, all handled by the client's themselves Zerocash Technology? it's great! |
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I'll be surprised if we don't see at least 10k tomorrow, at least temporarily.
do you mean this? Anon coin summary(not include cryptonote coin)Dark coin（Anon Wallet ） price：0.016BTC （1680K satoshi）
XC coin（Anon Wallet） Price：0.0013BTC （135K satoshi）
Vericoin（No Anon Wallet） Price：0.00015BTC （15K satoshi）
CryptCoin （No Anon Wallet） Price：0.0019BTC （190K satoshi）
CloakCoin（No Anon Wallet） Price：0.0002BTC （200K satoshi）
Supercoin（Anon Wallet） Price：0.00003BTC （3K satoshi）So we still have a long way to go...Thanks for not adjusting for total coin supply and misreading the price... Total coin supply doesn't mean much these days. It's all about the coin marketcap really. So maybe we should also list their coin marketcap on the side to show the true difference. |
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I'll be surprised if we don't see at least 10k tomorrow, at least temporarily.
do you mean this? Anon coin summary(not include cryptonote coin)Dark coin（Anon Wallet ） price：0.016BTC （1680K satoshi）
XC coin（Anon Wallet） Price：0.0013BTC （135K satoshi）
Vericoin（No Anon Wallet） Price：0.00015BTC （15K satoshi）
CryptCoin （No Anon Wallet） Price：0.0019BTC （190K satoshi）
CloakCoin（No Anon Wallet） Price：0.0002BTC （200K satoshi）
Supercoin（Anon Wallet） Price：0.00003BTC （3K satoshi）So we still have a long way to go... |
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Devs do you have a rough time period for when the anon wallet will be working sound enough to be incorporated into the main network?
we are fixing some minor issues we found, the key is to make the features robust. We may need 1-2 weeks before we can put it in the main network. Are you also working on the p2p decentralized anon in parallel? Seems other coins are announcing that they will release their's soon... Anyways, I know this coin is not your full time job so only do what you can. Yes. You know anyone can announce anything, but until they release, it does not mean anything. All I can tell you is that completely decentralized system is much more complex, it will involve mini and self-contained escrows, mutlisig addresses/tx, a lot more security measures etc. Otherwise we'd go directly to phase-2. We are very capable and qualified team, we are able to deliver. Let others hype, and you will see who actually delivers  Thanks for your update dev. we also need some marketing team, it seems we do not have marketing.  but anyway supercoin is a greatcoin. |
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official apologize on twitter and this thread is needed.
otherwise it's bad for your reputation and Poloniex....
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Richlist means nothing. A person can just split up their 1 million coin stash into 10 different address. Look a few pages back at supercoinwhale. He has over 700k coins but you would.never know unless he told you. I did the same thing with blackcoin. I split up my stash and I was top 100 but I never showed up on the list.
Secondly, most exchanges dont PoS mine with client deposits. If they staked and there was a bank run, no one would be able to withdrawal because the coins used to stake would not be available. Thats bad for business.
i agree with you. that big whale buy most his supercoin at price 6k satoshi. hope exchange platform do not stake, but no one know that. they can still leave 2 million coin for stake. it's free coin. what i want to say is we can turn the left pow coin to pos phase. but maybe we should wait for Tomorrow's first halves.... Yes lets keep watching things how goes. let's watch this. when needed, we can still make a change. |
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Richlist means nothing. A person can just split up their 1 million coin stash into 10 different address. Look a few pages back at supercoinwhale. He has over 700k coins but you would.never know unless he told you. I did the same thing with blackcoin. I split up my stash and I was top 100 but I never showed up on the list.
Secondly, most exchanges dont PoS mine with client deposits. If they staked and there was a bank run, no one would be able to withdrawal because the coins used to stake would not be available. Thats bad for business.
i agree with you. that big whale buy most his supercoin at price 6k satoshi. hope exchange platform do not stake, but no one know that. they can still leave 2 million coin for stake. it's free coin. what i want to say is we can turn the left pow coin to pos phase. but maybe we should wait for Tomorrow's first halves.... |
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where to check the pow block height?
open the debug.log in conf dir, and search for ">>". I usually open that file, go to the end, then search ">>" upward, so you see the last one. Now it is >> nHeight = 75849, nPoWHeight = 18286 Thanks |
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Is this multipool dump you guys are talking about being automated ? for what amounts does it sell each time then and how often ?
Yes it's automated. If I understand correctly, multipools mine the most profitable altcoins then immediately convert them to BTC then pay them out. I'd say they dump around 10-30k coins at a time, eating up all of the top Buy orders. This artificially deflates the value of the coin because the true value is in it's innovation, something that multipools have no interest in. wrong. The value of a network is in its current market value, determined by price on an open exchange. Innovation has nothing to do with it. Its not artificial because open exchanges are driven by supply and demand. If demand is high, multipools mine "the most profitable coin" and match the demand with supply. Thi is a good thing. Innovation is do very important. why darkcoin and XCcoin and Vericoin and voot coin ends their pow or reduce the blockreward to a small number when they realized the Multipool problem...... Its a scam tactic. 90% of the time early adoptors over pay for their coins. So they cry and complain about multipools because they want their coins to be back the levels they purchased them at. Don't blame multipools for prices dropping. Blame rookie investors for paying too much. Also, alot of devs will release coins knowing that in the future they can blame multipools and lower PoW rewards. It allows them to instamine a huge percentage of the coins in existance, then pump the value of the coin by cutting the reward. DRK is guilty of this and they will never live down that fact. Cutting PoW reward to pump a coins price is a scam designed to reward early adopters. I will not continue to repeat myself I thinn I am very clear on that fact and that others will agree. do you know XC coin suffered a 51% attack when Multipool control the most hash rate? that's the real reason they cut the pow block and turn to a pure pos coin, but the total coin amount keep unchanged, so it's fair to everyone. plenty of coins have been 51% attacked and have never had to lower their block rewards. XC just used that as an excuse to pull the reward reduction scam. do you think if we keep the coin reward is 512 block reward in the next 3 month, the price will go up? check the richlist you will find supercoin is the most fair distributed coin compared with darkcoin and XC coin. also pos is a better way to distribute coin than meaningless mining but pos rate too high is not vey good thing, first it's a big inflation for supercoin and that's lead the price is not sustainable for long time. second, most people put their coin in exchange platform, it seems bittrex has about 3 million coin in their Wallet, they can generated many free coin everyday... |
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Is this multipool dump you guys are talking about being automated ? for what amounts does it sell each time then and how often ?
Yes it's automated. If I understand correctly, multipools mine the most profitable altcoins then immediately convert them to BTC then pay them out. I'd say they dump around 10-30k coins at a time, eating up all of the top Buy orders. This artificially deflates the value of the coin because the true value is in it's innovation, something that multipools have no interest in. wrong. The value of a network is in its current market value, determined by price on an open exchange. Innovation has nothing to do with it. Its not artificial because open exchanges are driven by supply and demand. If demand is high, multipools mine "the most profitable coin" and match the demand with supply. Thi is a good thing. Innovation is do very important. why darkcoin and XCcoin and Vericoin and voot coin ends their pow or reduce the blockreward to a small number when they realized the Multipool problem...... Its a scam tactic. 90% of the time early adoptors over pay for their coins. So they cry and complain about multipools because they want their coins to be back the levels they purchased them at. Don't blame multipools for prices dropping. Blame rookie investors for paying too much. Also, alot of devs will release coins knowing that in the future they can blame multipools and lower PoW rewards. It allows them to instamine a huge percentage of the coins in existance, then pump the value of the coin by cutting the reward. DRK is guilty of this and they will never live down that fact. Cutting PoW reward to pump a coins price is a scam designed to reward early adopters. I will not continue to repeat myself I thinn I am very clear on that fact and that others will agree. do you know XC coin suffered a 51% attack when Multipool control the most hash rate? that's the real reason they cut the pow block and turn to a pure pos coin, but the total coin amount keep unchanged, so it's fair to everyone. plenty of coins have been 51% attacked and have never had to lower their block rewards. XC just used that as an excuse to pull the reward reduction scam. why that's a scam? you can still generate new coin through pos by have some XC even if pow been cut. it's more greener than meaningless mining. that's not scam. otherwise, Multipool may have ruined XC coin now........they do have a fork at first. |
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Its unfair because Devs are not central bankers.
The developer sets the network. network should be allowed to run its course. If prices drop, devs shouldn't be allowed to cut supply. You might ask yourself why but let me ask you this. If prices were to to rocket to the moon, should the dev be allowed to increase supply?
If your answer is no to increasing supply, then the answer should be no to cutting supply.
It becomes a scam when you tell people "yes there will be 12 million coins over 1 year" then turn around 3 months later and say "just kidding, we are cutting suppy at 3 million". This would force a liquidity squeeze, send the price higher and reward early adopters.
But that is exactly what you want right? Cut the supply after you have had your fill of coins and artificially pump the price? Sorry man. You argument for cutting supply hold no weight. So what if multipools sell coins at market? They control the hashrate, they earn those coins fair and square. If you want to compete with them, get yourself enough hashrate, mine supercoin and hoard them.
If multipools are mining supercoin and dumping, then clearly the price is too high and liquidity needs to be injected. I welcome multipools because if I am trying to buy big blocks of coins, why should I be forced to pay a higher price? This is were multipools are a godsend. while everyone is hoarding, multipools are liquidity providers. They will sell to me. Amazing.
I can provide more points but this should suffice. Its becoming clear that you only care about the price going higher. the only time PoW or PoS should be cut is when there was a clear error in the development of the coin. Two examples would be CENT and NINJA. Clear coding errors that hyper-inflated and ultimately killed the coins. Supercoin is not suffering from that so I don't see any problems with the way things are right now.
+1 A change in supply parameters (other than % stake, which rewards existing holders proportionately) is the death knell for a coin's potential and trust. Just talking about it is not good, but one single executed change is enough to kill. Any savvy traders will see it as an attempt by early adopters to dump-out. may i just add DARK COIN and XC coin reduced supply, they doing well aer'nt they And supercoin is doing well without having to cut PoW. Its becoming clear that guys just want to pump the price by cutting supply. Its a sleazy move. Stop blaming multipools. Did you guys run out btc or pay too much? Is that whg you want to cut PoW? I timed my purchase and bouht huge chunks of supercoin @ 2000 sat. it can go down or up either way multipools dont affect me. Supercoin is doing fine. You gusy are trying to convince the dev to pull a scumbag move by acting like a central banker. Unless the dev is allowed to increase supply if the price gets too high, he should never be allowed to cut supply if the price gets low. Cut pow and turn to a pure pos coin(put the left pow coin to pos phase), but keep the total coin amount same as promised. it's fair to everyone. only unfair to Multipool, because they can not dump supercoin anymore. |
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Tomorrow, at these times maybe 5-6 hours further, we expect to see first SUPER block reward drop (halve). It'll make the multipools disappear from general network about %50. Because profitability will drop in half.
haha no. price will double, Multipool will control this again. Trust me, i am running two biggest Multipool in China, this will happen, best plan is to cut the pow directly, and put the left pow to pos phase. |
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Is this multipool dump you guys are talking about being automated ? for what amounts does it sell each time then and how often ?
Yes it's automated. If I understand correctly, multipools mine the most profitable altcoins then immediately convert them to BTC then pay them out. I'd say they dump around 10-30k coins at a time, eating up all of the top Buy orders. This artificially deflates the value of the coin because the true value is in it's innovation, something that multipools have no interest in. wrong. The value of a network is in its current market value, determined by price on an open exchange. Innovation has nothing to do with it. Its not artificial because open exchanges are driven by supply and demand. If demand is high, multipools mine "the most profitable coin" and match the demand with supply. Thi is a good thing. Innovation is do very important. why darkcoin and XCcoin and Vericoin and voot coin ends their pow or reduce the blockreward to a small number when they realized the Multipool problem...... Its a scam tactic. 90% of the time early adoptors over pay for their coins. So they cry and complain about multipools because they want their coins to be back the levels they purchased them at. Don't blame multipools for prices dropping. Blame rookie investors for paying too much. Also, alot of devs will release coins knowing that in the future they can blame multipools and lower PoW rewards. It allows them to instamine a huge percentage of the coins in existance, then pump the value of the coin by cutting the reward. DRK is guilty of this and they will never live down that fact. Cutting PoW reward to pump a coins price is a scam designed to reward early adopters. I will not continue to repeat myself I thinn I am very clear on that fact and that others will agree. do you know XC coin suffered a 51% attack when Multipool control the most hash rate? that's the real reason they cut the pow block and turn to a pure pos coin, but the total coin amount keep unchanged, so it's fair to everyone. |
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where to check the pow block height?
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when will Anon Wallet release?
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Its unfair because Devs are not central bankers.
The developer sets the network. network should be allowed to run its course. If prices drop, devs shouldn't be allowed to cut supply. You might ask yourself why but let me ask you this. If prices were to to rocket to the moon, should the dev be allowed to increase supply?
If your answer is no to increasing supply, then the answer should be no to cutting supply.
It becomes a scam when you tell people "yes there will be 12 million coins over 1 year" then turn around 3 months later and say "just kidding, we are cutting suppy at 3 million". This would force a liquidity squeeze, send the price higher and reward early adopters.
But that is exactly what you want right? Cut the supply after you have had your fill of coins and artificially pump the price? Sorry man. You argument for cutting supply hold no weight. So what if multipools sell coins at market? They control the hashrate, they earn those coins fair and square. If you want to compete with them, get yourself enough hashrate, mine supercoin and hoard them.
If multipools are mining supercoin and dumping, then clearly the price is too high and liquidity needs to be injected. I welcome multipools because if I am trying to buy big blocks of coins, why should I be forced to pay a higher price? This is were multipools are a godsend. while everyone is hoarding, multipools are liquidity providers. They will sell to me. Amazing.
I can provide more points but this should suffice. Its becoming clear that you only care about the price going higher. the only time PoW or PoS should be cut is when there was a clear error in the development of the coin. Two examples would be CENT and NINJA. Clear coding errors that hyper-inflated and ultimately killed the coins. Supercoin is not suffering from that so I don't see any problems with the way things are right now.
+1 A change in supply parameters (other than % stake, which rewards existing holders proportionately) is the death knell for a coin's potential and trust. Just talking about it is not good, but one single executed change is enough to kill. Any savvy traders will see it as an attempt by early adopters to dump-out. may i just add DARK COIN and XC coin reduced supply, they doing well aer'nt they i would advice to cut the pow block reward and put the left pow coin to pos phase, so Multipool will not control our coin supply anymore. but maybe we should wait for the first halves Tomorrow. |
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