But how is Just-dice able to set their max profit so high?
The number I see there:
Site invested: 554,737.47504713
Max profit: 136,569.72
Because most sites you risk a % of the money you invest, while Just-Dice allows you to risk a % of your total bankroll, even if only a small fraction of it is on-site. Like for most things, Dooglus has a great FAQ and full explanation if you're interested |
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nyancat ....what's that  seems like I'm missing something... It's an easter egg that happens around 0.098% of the games =) BTW we've updated the stats pages, so they now are updated instantly. So you can view people like Yna filling our db in real time! |
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Are you sure we can bet as much as we want? As I know there is a maximum winning on single bet in any sites powered by moneypot, means that there is a max bet. (correct me if I was wrong)
And the site needs much more improvement especially on the design and features.
There's no real max bet per se, but with a 1% house edge the most you can win from Money Pot is a little over 1.5 BTC in a single bet (1% of the current bankroll) |
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We at MoneyPot.com:
1. Yes. We monitor tens of thousands of addresses
2. No, we don't use armory
3. We have written our own custom client, but it exclusively communicates with our self hosted bitcoin-core node
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this dice site have a very simple design and very easy to use but are you sure this is have a 100% provably fair?
Yeah, the site is provably fair as it uses the MoneyPot API which provides that. Like all provably fair schemes it doesn't mean the site can't cheat you (it could easily make bets you didn't specifically authorize), but it does mean if the site cheat you you can tell. |
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So here's the playing stats from our crazy 24 hours of bonus giveaways:  1.8 BTC of those loses were due to pure bonuses giveaways. Over the day in profit we hit a high of a little over +5 BTC, went down as low of -27 BTC and closed the day with a total of -12 lost. A fun day for players indeed! |
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Now you have a great competitor for the faucet runners  Every hour vs every minute  Well, we've never been overly competitive in the faucet department. But we do have a killer house edge  |
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Congrats to your team for 100k+ wagered that is awesome!
Yeah, great event that went along with it too. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Next time I think i'll make it a bit shorter, 24h lasted so long that most people had to go to bed. I'll generate some charts from the event, and post here |
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Ah, I see. They're talking about the bustabit project, which I bought last year (which at the time was confusingly enough called moneypot). But to clarify things, I have no intentions of selling bustabit or moneypot, and committed to the development of both. |
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Read a comment or 2 about people saying you sold moneypot to a new owner....
No, definitely not. And really, where? There's zero truth to this anyway, I'm not looking to sell, have not sold nor discussing selling the site. |
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Nicely done! It's looking really good, definitely more game-like and accessible! Well done.
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Do you require users to set their own client seed before placing a bet?
No, on my sites I use a machine-centric provably fair system, as I want machines to verify each bet, and be able to do it instantly. It's definitely a trade-off, but one I've been very happy with. App developers have had no trouble incorporating a check, which in a more complex (or batch system) would be x100 the work. I also have a different set of requirements too, so I wouldn't recommend the same scheme for your site. (I'd honestly just copy Just-Dice's, and if I cared about the fairness of the initial client seed I'd force people to set it manually) One of the reasons we did not use window.crypto is that it is not compatible with all browsers. We went through a lot of pains (and still are) to make sure that our site is fully responsive and usable for as many people as possible. I think it's supported in all current browsers, except Opera Mini. If it's not available, you can fallback to Math.random or even random.org or something. Here's what DustDice.com does: https://github.com/moneypot/dustdice/blob/master/public/scripts/game-logic/clib.js#L85-L94and supports all browsers, and uses window.crypto in 99% of them. And furthermore, that's just the default seed, people are welcome to change it if they care. Also picking a bad client seed would be really stupid and risky anyway, if people ever find out they do that, they could trick you and clean the house. |
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What a provably fair system by momenypot very funny to get these kind of result  now people will say about this it is all about luck than where is provably fair system, i just checked that offchain plinko game but the result made very disappointed to get that kind of result. What paytable were you playing against? This could be anywhere from 1 in a million result, to a probable result =) I haven't looked at the plinkopot source code, but if it's anything like the other MP games, it should be automatically verifying the provably fair for you. You can take note of the hashes in a notepad, and double check it for yourself. The owners of casinos powered by MoneyPot (like this one) have both the means and motivation to verify every game on your behalf. They make the exact same amount of money if you win or lose, so it's better for them you win (You'll play more, and have more fun) so it's in their self interests to be as fair as possible. |
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With the Just-Dice script, how do you verify that the seed you send, is the same seed and not a ambiguous variation?
I don't understand your question. Which two seeds are you talking about (client seed or server seed)? And who are the two "you"s in your question? I'll try to rewrite your question unambiguously and then answer it: "how does player the verify that the server seed that the site sends them when they ask to reveal their server seed after play is the same as the seed that was hashed before they started play and not a different seed with the same sha256 hash and which generated all the same rolls when combined with the client seed?" Is that what you're asking? If so, that's the same as asking "how can we be sure you're not cheating by finding not only an sha256 collision (which has never been done by anyone before) but all N different partial hmac_sha512 collisions, where N is the number of rolls that were made". And I guess the answer is "you can't - either the game is fair, or we are using a weakness in sha256 and sha512 which nobody else even knows exists". If you don't trust the strength of sha256 then all bets are off (as it were). But maybe I've misunderstood your question; please let me know what you're really asking. As I understand it, the post is describing the case when a user set's the client seed to "lucky" and then places a bet. If the server sees the client seed was indeed lucky, it might change it to "1ucky". If they use a font that makes no visual difference between "1ucky" and "lucky" the person won't notice, and if they use the permuted client seed for verification, the game will appear provably fair. It's a cute thought experiment, but it would be one of the stupidest ways imaginable for a casino to cheat. If anyone noticed (and they almost certainly would if they verified any bets), it would prove malicious intent. If a casino was going to cheat, it'd be better off doing it in a way that has plausible deniability ("Whoops, the change to your client seed didn't update in the db! Maybe you didn't submit it?") |
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Just half an hour remaining
A few bitcoin in bonus have been given out, well over a thousand bitcoins wager, a couple of dozen bitcoin in player profit! Thanks for making the giveaway success, and it's closing in on its final 30 minutes.
Edit: and the 24h period of giveaways are over. Our bot gave away about 1.8 BTC in extra bonuses, and a total of 1100 BTC were wagered in that period! Well done folks! All the wagering stats from the bot have been deleted to preserve historical accuracy
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Just create an account, and start wagering. Each game there's 1k bits worth of bonuses more than usual, which should make it real easy to play profitably!
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To celebrate reaching 100,000 BTC wagered, we're giving out around ~3 BTC in bonuses over the course of the day. A bot called GIVEAWAY_BOT is wagering a consistent 100k bits @ 1x, which means that 1k bits be added to the bonus pot each game! You can easily take a share of this bonus by cashing out after the bot (e.g. 1.01x), but be careful, other people might steal it from you by cashing out even later! So get your deposits ready, and have a read how the bonus calculations works check out: https://www.bustabit.com/faq#last This should be the easiest time in the history of bustabit to play profitably! After the 24h period, the giveaway bot will shutdown and all his stats will be deleted (for preserving the accuracy of our data). Good luck! |
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24 hours of bonus giveaways begins now
All you have to do, is cashout after 1.00x to qualify! Bring you friends, and go get that free money!
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There are some skill games such as blackjack and video poker, but almost all online variants are configured so that with perfect play it's still -EV. So while fun, you can't ever expect a profitable play. What's more interesting is things like poker and bustabit. With good play, and the right opponents you can be +EV. Poker needs no introduction, and bustabit has a commonly overlooked skill element, which is basically predicting how other people will act, how they think you'll act, and getting bonuses: https://www.bustabit.com/faq#last . And actually very shortly we'll be giving a away a few bitcoins in extra bonuses over the next 24h (to celebrate 100k btc wagered on the site) so it's pretty much the perfect time to give it a try. Binary options are cool, but you are playing against the house. And as the house is playing against informed opponents, they have to compensate through the use of *huge* spread. So it really requires a minor miracle to overcome that, and if you ever can, they'll probably increase the spread. And finally, there's the biggest gambling game of all: the market (stock, forex, etc). Probably the most important thing about this, is not deluding yourself into thinking you're better than you are. Any idiot can do something like sell a covered call and make money 99% of the time, but that doesn't mean you're +EV Good luck! |
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GET READY FOR OUR DAY LONG GIVEAWAY!Less than 130 BTC to go, until 100k btc wagered! To celebrate, we'll be giving out a few bitcoin over a 24h period! Here's how it'll work: A bot called GIVEAWAY_BOT will wager a consistent 100k bits @ 1x, which means that 1k bits be added to the bonus pot each game! You can easily take a share of this bonus by cashing out after the bot (e.g. 1.01x), but be careful, other people might steal it from you by cashing out even later! So get your deposits ready, and have a read how the bonus calculations works check out: https://www.bustabit.com/faq#last This should be the easiest time in the history of bustabit to play profitably! After the 24h period, the giveaway bot will shutdown and all his stats will be deleted (for preserving the accuracy of our data). Good luck!
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