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2121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: why people are always interested in altcoins on: January 29, 2023, 11:54:16 PM
Higher growth than Bitcoin?
Of course, altcoins can grow their prices higher than Bitcoin. You must know that there are altcoins that can increase hundreds of times from their initial prices. And the increases are faster than the way of Bitcoin price grows.

But will that guarantee the project will last?
many altcoins claim that they can compete with bitcoin but then 1-2 years later they are lost and abandoned.
Do you mean the potential big increase?
Sure, it never guarantees how long the project to survive. That's why people prefer to choose Bitcoin as their main asset for long-term investment. But people also diversify their assets to optimize the chance of getting bigger profits. So, they also choose top altcoins for long-term investment.

Bitcoin is still the mother of all altcoins. Problem risk, all have their respective risks.
Yes. Bitcoin seems to be always the main crypto coin, the mother of all crypto coins.
No other coins deserve to replace its role, no other crypto coins have the capability to overtake it.

2122  Economy / Economics / Re: Can I take a loan to invest in bitcoin? on: January 29, 2023, 11:36:59 PM
I agree, we can borrow money to do business or do other things, but investing in cryptocurrency is really a bad decision. It is true that cryptocurrencies can bring big profits for some people, but many people also lose a lot. And honestly, I see more losers than winners. Cryptocurrency is too volatile, and we don't know if it will continue to grow in the future or will never rise again, no one knows. Only invest with money we can lose, never invest with money we cannot lose.
Actually, borrowing money for Bitcoin investment and other businesses is the same. Both have risks and no guarantee for profits. I never heard that any business that can guarantee certain profits. However, we can't deny that investing in Bitcoin is riskier because it is very volatile and unpredictable. So, for un experienced people, never try to use borrowed money for Bitcoin investment. But for the experts (experienced investors/traders), using borrowed money is no problem as long as it isn't excessive. Experts must know how to deal with the risks, know the way to secure profits, and understand how to manage borrowed money.

2123  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will 2023 be another up year for Bitcoin? on: January 29, 2023, 11:12:36 PM
i think half year will go downwards then we can aspect recovery
and nice image it shows like this year will be up
The rising has started since the beginning of this year. We already experienced big decreases in the whole of 202, the market doesn't need more downwards to recover. So, a half year for another downward isn't likely to happen. You must realize that there is a constant positive trend. It is supported by more good news and fewer bad news. I am very sure 2022 is another Bitcoin UP, it is probably the same as in 2019 and 2015.   Smiley

It is dangerous to only base our predictions on a picture about the up and down cycle for bitcoins, but there is a lot of optimism about this year and I am positive too that this year will be a good year for bitcoins.
What makes the picture dangerous?  Huh
People surely make a prediction not only based on the picture, but they also use more sources to provide a prediction.
Regarding the picture, it is not a meaningless picture. It is created by analyzing the data of the history of previous Bitcoin Up and Down in each year.

2124  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 28, 2023, 11:05:42 PM
The Arsenal defense were able to hold down Erling Haaland in the match. It was very smart of Arteta to take off Holding in the half time, Holding who had already been booked for tackling Haaland and bringing on Gabriel who was able to shut Haaland out for the rest of the game. Even though they lost the game, Arsenal did very well in my opinion.
For the defense line, Arsenal did a quite good job. But they weren't good enough at the attacking line. I'm sure Arsenal can make a goal if they released Martin Ødegaard at the beginning of the match. I don't know why Arteta keeps him on the bench, while Guardiola lets De Bruyne play in the starting lineup. For me, it was a big mistake to not optimize the opportunity to score in the first half. Arsenal defenders can deal with Haaland, but it is nothing if they can't score any goal. No team can win the match without a single goal.  Undecided

I really hope Arteta can take a lesson from the match. He shouldn't underestimate the opponents.

2125  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: January 28, 2023, 11:00:44 PM
I read two news from the local media today.
Barcelona extended Marcos Alonso's contract until 2024, Barcelona got Alonso on a free transfer last season. In addition I heard Barcelona released the fourth jersey. They made the fourth jersey with a yellow base color. Reportedly this Jersey was created in honor of Senyera aka the national flag of Catalonia. Actually, I'm quite surprised that they made a Jersey in the middle of the competition, but maybe this is also their business strategy to make more money.
Marcos Alonso performed quite well so far, so it is not surprising if Barcelona extends his contract. Barcelona needs an experienced defender like him, moreover he also can be positioned in several positions (CB, LB, or LM). Marcos Alonso is a useful defender who has multi skills. I appreciate that Xavi wants him to stay.

I agree with you, launching a new jersey commonly happens in the early of the season. But it is no problem to launch it at any time if it is really needed. In this matter, it is a special jersey that is made to honor the national flag.


2126  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 27, 2023, 11:54:32 PM
According to Fabrizio Romano, Arsenal have submitted a bid worth €6o million for Brighton's Moises Caicedo but I also read later today that Brighton have rejected Arsenal's bid and insisting on keeping the player until the end of the season, hopefully Arsenal will return with am improved bid and see if Brighton will change their minds and agree to sell their star player before the end of the window.
It is funny that Brighton rejected Arsenal offer, €60 million actually is a good offer for Moises Caicedo. This player only has a market value of around €38 million, Arsenal offer (€60 million) is almost double the market value. Although Moises Caicedo is a young midfielder, I think Arsenal no needs to improve his offer. If Brighton refused it, Arsenal is better to look for other midfielders. I believe Arsenal can get a better midfielder with €60 million.

2127  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is risky, be conscious on: January 27, 2023, 11:44:26 PM
Trading is a very lucrative business but also a very risky business as well and as such should be done with so much caution.
What would be your advice for those wanting to trade as a newbie?
I don't think trading is very lucrative, investment is more lucrative. But by trading, you can gain faster profits. While investment requires a lot of time to take profits, you spend much time to reach your target, especially for a long-term investment. However, a long-term investment offers a bigger amount of money.

For newbies, it is better to start trading with small funds. Know well how to trade properly, don't hurry to gain bigger profits. Get enough experience before using big funds because trading has a risk, too. And never try future trading, it is not for newbies!

2128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: why people are always interested in altcoins on: January 27, 2023, 11:38:15 PM
Bitcoins are for long term only and altcoins are for short term trades.
It depends on the situation. In my opinion, Bitcoin or altcoins can be short-term or long-term.
If you only target small profits, you can use Bitcoin for a short-term holding. Just imagine when you bought BTC at $17k, you can get profits now since it is already $23k+. But if you target bigger profits, you can hold for a longer time, probably until the bullrun season. Well, it is also applied on altcoins, but it is for the top altcoins only.

People choosing Altcoins should be familiar with the character of each altcoin, and it is safer to be with the top altcoins and developments that are clear for the future. Don't just choose altcoins based on other people's stories.
Of course, people are brave to invest in altcoins because they know well altcoins.
I don't think top altcoins are safe enough, you must know what is happening with XRP. Although it is one of the top altcoins, the price decreased much because of the case with SEC.

2129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: January 26, 2023, 11:42:24 PM
The red card impacted the extra time and not the game. ATM was leading with 1 goal for 60 minutes and failed to secure it at the end. This cost them the whole match since in the extra time, they were playing with 10 players vs 11 and both Benzema and Vinicius didn't let ATM try their luck in penalties.
At the end, Real Madrid game was quite hard comparing to Barcelona
Yes, basically the loss of Atletico Madrid isn't caused by the red card but because of the wrong strategy applied by the coach.
I think Simeone was too early to substitute Morata and Griezmann with other players. If Simeone keeps Morata and Griezmann until the match ends, we may see a different result of this match. Replacing these two players make Atletico has no power in attacking, they only focus on defense. This strategy triggered a red card got by Savic, strong attack of Real Madrid makes Atletic defenders become chaotic. In the extra time, Atletic became more chaotic because they only played with 10 players.

2130  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: January 26, 2023, 11:31:04 PM
I dont think that Arsenal will win easily against Everton. Everytime a first place team plays against the last team they either struggle or lose points and how Everton badly needs points they might even make a surprise and win against Arsenal.
I know that the team in the relegation zone can make a surprise. But if you check the history of Everton matches in the last 5 matches, you will see no potential for Everton to make a difficulty for Arsenal. Everton got 4 losses and 1 draw in the last 5 matches, while Arsenal got 4 wins and 1 draw. It is very clear that Arsenal seems to have no difficulty getting full points (win). Personally, I assume Everton not likely to give us a surprise in the next match (Everton vs Arsenal).

2131  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: It is ok to sell your Bitcoin. on: January 26, 2023, 11:24:59 PM
Don’t listen to the people who tell you what to do or not to do with your coins. They just want you to hold so the price is higher when they sell because stupid people think this is a zero sum game.
That's why we need to have our own target. So, whatever people state, we can ignore it and focus on our target. Whenever the price of Bitcoin meets our target, just sell the Bitcoin although other people tell us to hold. We can be optimistic to sell if we have our own target. But if we have no target, we must feel confused and may consider others' statements. However, to have our own target properly, it requires knowledge and experience.

2132  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Kelebihan dan Kekurangan Investasi Crypto on: January 25, 2023, 11:55:46 PM
Pada dasarnya sama, tapi kalau tidak salah dulu pas jaman Margin di poloniex seingat saya kok tidak ada levergenya ya? atau saya yg tidak ingat. Saya hanya menebak naik atau turun. Tapi memang saya tidak menekuni lebih lanjut karena resikonya.
Apa iya sama? Setau ku resiko di future jauh lebih seram, uang bisa habis dalam sehari kalau salah strategi. Sedangkan di spot, tidak ada istilahnya uang habis dalam sehari. Paling parah yaitu nilai uangnya menyusut karena harga koinnnya terjun bebas. Ngomong-ngomong saya kurang paham masalah margin di Poloniex, dari dulu saya lebih banyak main di exchange lokal atau Binance.

Buat saya pribadi tekanan mental saat trading futures jauh berat, mengingat jika saat kita salah ambil posisi kita bisa kehilangan seluruh modal (terkena margin call) dan untuk mengejar kerugian kita harus melakukan deposit lagi (menambah modal fresh) dengan konsekuensi bisa menderita loss kembali.
Sangat setuju. Salah ambil posisi, alamat modal jadi abu. Ini sudah kayak gambling, salah nebak bisa lenyap semua uangnya. Jauh beda dengan spot, paling parah cuman nilai uangnya yang turun drastis, tapi koinnya masih ada di wallet. Paling tidak masih ada harapan kalau harga koinnya naik lagi di fase bullrun.

2133  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: January 25, 2023, 11:46:33 PM
No matter what the score is, it doesn't matter. The goal was victory and their final result was qualifying. As usual, Barcelona's problem was not able to penetrate the Sociedad defense that piled up many players in the defensive area. This proved that Barcelona could only make a goal in the 52nd minute. Sociedad also played with 10 men as Mendez was red-carded. Perhaps if there hadn't been a red card the match would have been different, Barcelona might have been harder to win.
Sure, the most important is the win, not the number of goals. But with 1 goal only, it means a lot that Barcelona is not very effective at attacking. Although Real Sociedad only played with 10 players since minute 40', Barcelona only can make 1 goal. I feel something wrong with Barcelona attacking, their attackers look to have less of accuracy. Xavi must fix this problem, so they won't have a problem when they play in the next El Classico or the other big matches.

2134  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 25, 2023, 11:30:39 PM
I think with the condition they are in now, they have to try to forget this player and stay focused on their current players.
Messi is a Barcelona legend and has a special bond we know that but that doesn't mean they should lust after this player again. His time at Barcelona is over and there is no need to force it because it will only hurt them with all forms of their financial condition.
You are right. Why Barcelona doesn't try to forget him? There is no worth signing Messi again, he has a huge salary and already 35 years old. Barcelona has no capability to pay his salary and Barcelona already has many players with big salaries. If Barcelona signs Messi, they surely will have difficulty to deal with Messi's salary. On the other hand, Messi's performance isn't as well as before, his age is the factor to decrease it. Barcelona is better to focus on young players, just give them more opportunities to improve their skills and experience. It is much better than signing back Messi.

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2136  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk on the phone? on: January 20, 2023, 08:03:42 AM
Some people says it suck some people say its better, Im actually prefer on desktop but it is very much possible I work on a phone as well. There is always plus and minus on every thing Grin
Sure, nothing is perfect. I agree with you, dude.  Smiley
I also prefer to use my laptop/PC, I rarely use my smartphone. Of course, there is some limitation on a smartphone because it has a smaller/narrower screen. Smartphone also has fewer features, that's why we can't expect the same performance as we use a laptop/PC. So, if we want better performance, ideally we use a laptop/PC. But if we aren't at home or outside, we can use a smartphone because it is difficult to bring a laptop/PC.

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2138  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I sell motorbikes to buy bitcoins on: January 09, 2023, 03:12:25 PM
I have 2 motorbikes at home, but what I always use is only 1 motorbike, and 1 motorbike is rarely used, and indeed the motorbike is also old, and if it is sold it won't be too expensive, and I decided to sell the motorbike, because in my opinion the price of the motorbike will definitely fall over time,
(affected by inflation). and the money from the sale of the motorbike I will use to buy bitcoin. because in my opinion the price of bitcoin in the future will definitely rise. and also currently the market is bear, so this is a good opportunity to buy bitcoins. and I want to ask everyone, the decision I made, namely selling the motorbike and the money to buy bitcoin, is it wrong or not?

I'm ready to be corrected because I have no experience in bitcoin and crypto.
Selling the motorbike for buying Bitcoin is a good idea. You rarely used the motorbike, so it is better to sell it and invest the money in a more useful thing like Bitcoin. As long as you have enough knowledge about Bitcoin investment, it is no problem that you don't have enough experience. I guess you have learned enough about Bitcoin, that's why you know it is the right time to invest in Bitcoin. Sure, it is a bearish season, it is the best time to buy Bitcoin. People predict the price will increase significantly in 2024-2025 (bullrun season), so just keep your Bitcoin until that time.

2139  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: January 09, 2023, 01:21:29 PM
Harapannya seperti ini, tapi kemaren sempet mikir karena kalau memang resesi mungkin akan banyak investor save aset untuk kebutuhan hidup. Mungkin juga kata salah satu temen disini (saya lupa) banyak orang mungkin akan lebih memilih untuk membeli kebutuhan pokok.
Kita sudah pernah mengalami hal tersebut di tahun 2021. Di saat krisis karena Covid19, malah BTC menciptakan ATH baru. Keadaan krisis dunia kala itu sama sekali tidak menghambat kenaikan harga-harga koin crypto di saat fase bullrun 2021, termasuk kenaikan harga BTC. Yang ada makin banyak orang berbondong-bondong ikut mencoba investasi atau trading crypto sebab hanya aset crypto yang menunjukkan grafik positif. Makanya dulu itu sempat banyak orang-orang dari stock market pindah ke crypto. Dari situ kita bisa melihat sendiri jika krisis dunia tidak berarti otomatis krisis dunia crypto juga.

Investor yang cerdas, pasti sudah jauh-jauh hari mengamankan dana untuk kebutuhan hidup di kala kondisi terburuk sekalipun. Jadi ketika memang terjadi resesi, itu tidak banyak berpengaruh ke pergerakan aset crypto mereka nanti. Saya yakin mereka malah mencari momen crypto turun harganya, jadi mereka punya peluang beli di harga paling rendah dan jual di kala nanti bullrun.

Semoga aja segera kuat om Grin. kalau dilihat memang masuk masa jenuh dan brekout dan momen Histori pengulangan periode sebelumya. Saya harap bisa menyentuh diatas $18.384. Meskipun nanti mungkin tidak langsung diatas $21K. Karena saya pikir harga $18K adalah penentuan.
Target selanjutnya $20k, kemungkinan bisa tercapai dalam 3 bulan awal di tahun ini. Atau malah bisa lebih cepat melewati $20k jika makin banyak berita positif tentang crypto. Saya tidak berpikir $18k itu harga penentuan karena sudah dari beberapa bulan yang lalu $18k selalu mudah dilewati (baik ketika harga turun ataupun naik).

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