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2141  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: November 24, 2016, 10:11:01 AM
Cavani too much benched while ibrahimovic still in there at psg , and now i think they need more than cavani as striker in psg. or there would be more chance wasted like we have just seen.

Im not sure about this and as far as I can tell, there are many times that both of them were playing together so he was actually not benched most of the time, in fact he should realize that he should be playing more seriously because he is now the ony striker that they rely on right now
but mostly cavani play from the bench , not in the line up. it makes his confidence dropped at least. i can see it after ibrahimovic leaving and cavani be the first choice , they play like nervous. as the result a lot of chances wasted.
2142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So, why do we need to use Bitcoin? on: November 24, 2016, 10:02:29 AM
Not just me, I think most part of bitcoin users "live" on internet.

There's no better way to make deals since with paypal and others services people can rollback the transactions also bitcoin is fast af, well, not this week.
yeah despite the importance of using bitcoin for online transactions and I think that bitcoin is indeed better than paypal, but how to tell everyone on the Internet to use bitcoin?

Yeah, as bitcoin is completely decentralized spreading is not effective. None has made much spreading through social medias, also when this happens sudden adoption happens it might easily get the attention of governments to impose hard regulations for bitcoin usage.
yeah spreading bitcoin information through social medias is like spreading another fiat currency like dollar and suggest people to use it , makes sense? bitcoin invented for everyone to make global transaction easier, you don't have to own certain bank to transfer money around the world , just use bitcoin and you are good to go to trade or spend it everywhere.
2143  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 24, 2016, 09:46:41 AM
Well I can't buy Ferrari from my winnings but I can have a good holidays and that is super cool for me

I wish I could buy ferrari from my winnings also. But I can say that I'm not rich from gambling and I can't even get good amount of money in gambling. What I am just doing is gamble what I afford to lose and doesn't hope for any big amount of return. I guess those people who are becoming rich from gambling are those people who are really lucky.

Yeah those people are one in a million who get rich in gambling. And I'm not one of those lucky ones. I just gamble for fun and sometimes to kill time but still learned to manage my money and know when to stop. But still hoping to win in a lottery so I could be rich.

only few people that really become rich through gambling. those people are who quit immediately after hit a huge winning. hard to hold yourself to not to gamble again. people that have a high level of greed might would never become rich. due winning after winning they would gamble it all again , no doubt money desire would never end.
Those who might win the lottery, they have all the luck in this world and those wise people quit immediately and divert their funds in other business activity. If given a chance to win millions in gambling I would certainly withdraw that directly and build my long time dream business.

I will be very happy to convert my earnings in gambling to a legitimate business.
if you are not a regular gambler then try your luck in lottery the best way to make your way to become rich , just don't expect it as it might hurts you to expecting when actually the day you get your winning , just buy some ticket and forget it so when you lost the lottery you would have nothing to lose. and when you won it just well done you are a new rich man.
2144  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be considered as a Sickness!! on: November 24, 2016, 09:32:03 AM
It will get to a particular level before gambling will be considered as sickness to me. For someone who plays on a lighter mode, who loses some and win some but still able to move on without any call for concerns then its not sickness but for someone who cannot afford to stay without gambling even losing his own money and even moneys entrusted to him, then its definitely sickness.
that's right , i don't think it's a sickness when you feel have nothing wrong with gambling , it's a sickness when people get lost so deep causing so many problem in their life and instead to stop it they continue playing without considering there could be make their situation much more worse than before until they feel desperate. once people reached that level it should considered as a sickness.
2145  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 24, 2016, 09:22:29 AM
I believe it's mostly luck, you can have a strategy that can make you some profit in a short period sometimes, but the rule in gambling is the longer you play the more likely it is you lose. And a lot of people have to lose for a few to win.
first of all should you believe on luck existence itself? i personally do believe that luck is just one of many factor that can change the game, change the outcome. but just limited to 'one of many factor' , you can't win the game with your luck alone.

Well I deposited 1 btc once with dice and did a reversed martingale on 2x and hit 4 greens in a row, I call that luck indeed, when something is  random by chance and I still hit it I got lucky. It's not a force or something like that where I have to believe in.
that's what i mean , people believe on luck on that situation then they recognize about luck existence. i do believe on something called luck too as frequently i experienced some unexpected result which basically almost impossible but then it's happened. but i don't agree if then the whole gambling results depends on luck only.
2146  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is CHINA CONTROLLING Bitcoin? on: November 24, 2016, 09:06:33 AM
I dont think so , no one is controlling btc.

keep dreaming. BTC is centralized like any other currency Smiley
I think for the moment in which the user is not too much and volume turnover bitcoin is arguably still small. bitcoin can still be controlled by someone who has a lot bitcoin or large capital,
this is make people afraid for a new investor especially , they would not interested anymore as they now the fact that bitcoin are just same like another fiat currency centralized and also controlable due small number that can be acquired by single person or a single group like chine in this case.
2147  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: November 24, 2016, 12:55:17 AM
Tonight, I don't hesitate : I've place a bet on Barça, Atletico and PSG or draw. I think most will agree with me, except for Paris that is quite controversial.

So far I've made a nice 3/3. I'm still sad for Paris, as they merited to win, and since Arsenal drawed from a stupid penalty...
actually psg are deserve to win , just stupid cavani wasted and missed so many chances. especially the stupid chip when he is one on one with ospina. i lost my bet for psg to win the match Sad. however both arsenal and psg qualified for next round without problem.

The bet was really unnecessary, he could have score easily if he didnt do that stupid stuff. Sometimes football player think that he is the centre of the attraction and try to do stupid stuff to make themselves look good. In the end he wasted stupid opportunity to score some goals which is quite lame
i don't think cavani want to show up his skills that time , he just purely lost his instinc as a beast , as a dangerous striker who always scored once get into penalty box , like what he show several years ago in napoli. cavani too much benched while ibrahimovic still in there at psg , and now i think they need more than cavani as striker in psg. or there would be more chance wasted like we have just seen.
2148  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High bet amounts or low bet amounts? What is your style? on: November 24, 2016, 12:35:38 AM
Believe me, I never play a big bet, but continuously playing the small bets make my loses big amount, Sometime i thought, i should bought the bitcoin and only hold it than definitely it could give me a huge profit. But may be it was my bad luck, But now a days, i have been changed myself a lot, because of i don't want to be addicted person.
But about the OP, i don't think big bet or small bet give us fun, matter is that who much amount we win it, but guarantee-at big or small bets always give lose firstly.     
and believe me too , i have gamble for over 10 years most of the times i do bet with low amount. i do it regularly and ruled by bankroll management. so far i noticed even didn't in lost position. i am in profit. so i will suggest everyone to do low bet amount with bankroll management. that's all.

This is the best style for me either, if you will play high bets then after losing you can't gamble again. But upon playing with small bets, whether you will lose you can afford it and you can just try again to play. That's more likely the best strategy if you are just treating gambling as source of entertainment but if not, then take the risk of betting high amount.
nahh that's what i mean , by gamble the amount that you can always afford to lose , you would never get any problem in gambling.you will just feel fine to keep playing earn profit and having fun at same time. but i do big amount bet too sometimes , just not really often like once a year after christmas, i celebrate it with to bet really high amount but still of course on a limit that i can afford to lose.
2149  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Recommend a Bitcoin Sports Gambling Site. on: November 24, 2016, 12:10:46 AM
Hello guys, I am looking for a good sports gambling website with the following requirements:

1. Good reputation(1 year+ in operation and no scam accusations on them)
2. Deposit bonus (x2? x3? x4 my first deposit or whatever)
3. Great odds on NBA games.
4. Giveaways or some sort of promos (constantly done)
5. State why you like it (subjective upon you).

Thanks guys, I will really appreciate your suggestions!
You could find everything you're looking for at coinbet24.com like competitive odds for nba matches. They have deposit bonus with low rollover for sportsbook but I haven't tried them yet. For the giveaways I think they offer some on the Games&Round section.I like the site because it's simple and easy to access.
i really love this sportsbook coinbet24 , even though they are on the way building reputation since several months back i think they have successfully get it. a lot of promo provided , a competitive odds and there is a competition too i see recently. the only problem for me coinbet didn't provide you instant withdrawal , it's required some times like 2 to 12 hours for your withdrawal processed.
2150  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe that win in gambling is depending on your luck ? on: November 23, 2016, 11:59:01 PM
I believe it's mostly luck, you can have a strategy that can make you some profit in a short period sometimes, but the rule in gambling is the longer you play the more likely it is you lose. And a lot of people have to lose for a few to win.
first of all should you believe on luck existence itself? i personally do believe that luck is just one of many factor that can change the game, change the outcome. but just limited to 'one of many factor' , you can't win the game with your luck alone.
2151  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Europa League/Champions League Lounge on: November 23, 2016, 11:45:32 PM
Tonight, I don't hesitate : I've place a bet on Barça, Atletico and PSG or draw. I think most will agree with me, except for Paris that is quite controversial.

So far I've made a nice 3/3. I'm still sad for Paris, as they merited to win, and since Arsenal drawed from a stupid penalty...
actually psg are deserve to win , just stupid cavani wasted and missed so many chances. especially the stupid chip when he is one on one with ospina. i lost my bet for psg to win the match Sad. however both arsenal and psg qualified for next round without problem.
2152  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: High bet amounts or low bet amounts? What is your style? on: November 23, 2016, 11:31:25 PM
Believe me, I never play a big bet, but continuously playing the small bets make my loses big amount, Sometime i thought, i should bought the bitcoin and only hold it than definitely it could give me a huge profit. But may be it was my bad luck, But now a days, i have been changed myself a lot, because of i don't want to be addicted person.
But about the OP, i don't think big bet or small bet give us fun, matter is that who much amount we win it, but guarantee-at big or small bets always give lose firstly.     
and believe me too , i have gamble for over 10 years most of the times i do bet with low amount. i do it regularly and ruled by bankroll management. so far i noticed even didn't in lost position. i am in profit. so i will suggest everyone to do low bet amount with bankroll management. that's all.
2153  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: November 23, 2016, 04:02:37 PM
Yes there are so many methods for playing safe in gambling, for example when you bet 0.04bitcoin into a dice game and won(1.90x) why not quit while you have the given money. That is already a huge sum of money if you convert it to FIAT. Then come back for tomorrow to play again to avoid to avoid unnecessary outcome if you continue to roll. Use your head when you are playing over your emotion, when your emotion controls you while you are losing better to cool off. Quit for a while then continue if you are on your mind.
the problem is even you could quit while in profit , it would be just useless if you then have a plan to come back to play. tomorrow? the next day? the day after next days? who knows you would just get lost and lost. your previous winning mean nothing. bankroll management take a key role here , if you are good enough to manage money profit/ lost then you are good to go to do this.
2154  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: November 23, 2016, 03:48:56 PM
Well I can't buy Ferrari from my winnings but I can have a good holidays and that is super cool for me

I wish I could buy ferrari from my winnings also. But I can say that I'm not rich from gambling and I can't even get good amount of money in gambling. What I am just doing is gamble what I afford to lose and doesn't hope for any big amount of return. I guess those people who are becoming rich from gambling are those people who are really lucky.

Yeah those people are one in a million who get rich in gambling. And I'm not one of those lucky ones. I just gamble for fun and sometimes to kill time but still learned to manage my money and know when to stop. But still hoping to win in a lottery so I could be rich.

only few people that really become rich through gambling. those people are who quit immediately after hit a huge winning. hard to hold yourself to not to gamble again. people that have a high level of greed might would never become rich. due winning after winning they would gamble it all again , no doubt money desire would never end.
2155  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: November 23, 2016, 03:32:17 PM
Gambling in long term can be profitable only for Poker players - at the beginning is always difficult to win, but with time they have better skills and more experience. In this way in long term they start winning more and more.

I don't think that playing poker is the only one that can give you profit in the long term but all of it.

Because I believe that all types of gambling games can give you profit in the long run depending on how the way you are gambling.

But that is somehow kind hard to achieve for the ratio of win and lose, lose has a lot of higher chance.

If you are a pro in Poker game, then it is easy to make long run win in this game. Because this result is depend on your gaming skills and strategy. So the intelligent person can make long term win in this game. But in slot games, this is not possible if you luck you can make it. In sports betting it's 50 - 50 chance the result depends on the game and your luck.
i think a lot of people believe that in poker you could always in profit as long as you experienced enough and have a brilliant brain to fool other players on the table. but i don't think everyone can do this. it's limited to those people who gifted an ability to play poker. and gifted a huge luck of course.
2156  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Soccer Transfer Market 2016/2017 ! on: November 23, 2016, 03:18:24 PM
Did anyone read that? I read in one FC Barcelona news website that if Messi will calcel contract with Barcelona, than one football club is offering 100 Million for Messi. Name of that club isn't shown but I think Messi will be in barca of course, this was that team which helped Messi when he was boy.
Also "Mirror" says that Man.City is going to pay 238 Million Euro in Messi and they believe that Guardiola will help them in Messi's transfer.
messi transfer rumour recently getting hot , a lot of reliable sources says manchester city ready to pay him for 350 million dollar which i think they can afford to spend it , but the question is he really want to cancel the contract extention and prefer to choose to move to a club like manchester city where there is no real fans exist for the sake of money?

Players are generally loyal to their clubs in Spain (Messi, Ronaldo, Pepe, Modric...). I doubt pretty much that he will leave the club where he always played.
i don't think so , if you know very well la liga . you would never forget about luis figo who have played for barcelona before transfered to real madrid. also luis enrique who played for real madrid at first but then make a shocking decision to move to barcelona. now how can you say the players in la liga are loyal? so do messi , they might could make a shocking decision too to leaving barcelona.
2157  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tell us How You bet On Dice on: November 23, 2016, 03:08:08 PM
I play on dice with very limited budget 500k sastoshi on 9900X multiplier on base bet 10k satoshi, I know that is really hard to hit the higher multiplier but I am doing this with my extra funds and playing there just for fun, I don this manually maximum 50 rolls there just once in a week.

I also used the same way, 0.005 BTC on 9900X multiplier is very difficult to win I've tried it several times always lose
Now try to bring  0.02 BTC because based on my calculations on all bets 100-200 one of them will appear 0.xx or 99.x
Playing Dice game with 0.005 BTC is a big amount, I will not take a risk with this much amount, I will play 0.0001 to 0.001 BTC on the 99x multiplier, I know I will lose this amount, but just for time pass, I play this game manually. If I play auto bet, I will play with the very small amount. I made a profit in Dice game very rarely. most of the time i end with loss.

You're right, I have multiple accounts on sites Dice Primedice, Kingbet , Rollin and Bitsler all accounts with negative bankroll
Usually I play dice at events and contests Last I took the 3rd place in the KingDice contest reward 0.1 BTC  but I lost 0.14 BTC   Cheesy
In KingDice if you make 100 bets there will be 99 on 1 occasion
i never play dice so seriously , just gamble my extra money that not worth more than $20 to $30 only. usually i only make twice bet , no matter what the result win or lost i would just walk away. bet $29 on 2x multiplier and $1 on 100x multiplier , that's pretty fun in then when you won it .

If you're OK to lose that much money, then I like your concept of playing few bets instead spending a lot of time in front of a computer. If you win, then your money will be almost double otherwise nothing. But usually play this game for fun so I will spend around 15 to 20 min and never made any money from this game.
i'm okay , as it's the amount that i consider as extra money at max i can spend $150 monthly in several games. i feel nothing seriously affected even all of my bets lost. it's my self pleasure when i have successfully control my emotion to not keep playing and stick to the rules. gamble on dice always push your emotion to keep chasing your losing money but not for me.
2158  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: November 23, 2016, 08:09:04 AM
BPL this week, Liverpool VS Sunderland. I think is not easy to Liverpool after draw with Soton, let alone Sunderland win in 2 matchs, if Liverpool not win again, I doubt can compete in the big 4.
even if Liverpool draw again but still any chance to them if only to reach top 4 however Sunderland in the good shape and already terminate the lost results with 2 times streak win even last week they had won with huge scores but against Liverpool at Anfield i'm not sure Sunderland will win and for this match i dare to pick Liverpool ML


Liverpool still have a good chance to win the league and if they could keep on goig like this hen they might finally win. Another thig, they might sign another defender soon from southampton so that would be a great power boost to klopp's current squad as he lack alot of great defender
liverpool always have a good records in the early of season. but in the last 10 years they are even struggling to get a place in champions league , it's pretty unfortunate? or it's just they have no mentality to become a champion? idk , this season wouldn't be different , liverpool would get dropped so hard if then they didn't get 3 points.
2159  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: November 23, 2016, 07:50:43 AM
I don't know why but I always get a feeling to gamble, after then losing my money, I quit for some time and then continue, but I know I will lose my btc Sad

Why is it so addictive?

I know why gambling so addicting, I think because we always have hope of winning big in short time..
If we lose it makes us want to get back what we lost..

when greed hits you that is what will definitely happen because you are trying to make big money with just a short period of time you will end up losing, this attitude will constantly gives loss not profit you need to be patient and to be in a limitation and should never go back quickly after a loss because I guess you are less likely to retrieve all money you have loss.
greedy always be the thing that makes you fail reaching goal , not only in gambling only. but on every thing! in gambling when you gamble relax for fun purpose only , i believe people wouldn't get addicted. besides greedy , your brain always attracted to something that can push your adrenaline.
2160  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: November 23, 2016, 07:36:02 AM
Since gambling is just for fun for me, become rich wont stop me to do it. One thing that maybe I will try to keep is to always play with small amounts of money and I will reduce the duration of my gambling thing. With huge amounts of money I can find another fun things beside gambling and thats what I will try to chase if I was rich!
that's true , rich will never stop you to gamble if you treat gambling as a way to get entertainment. and basically gambling designed for rich people only , for those people who have a lot of extra money to spent. it's just nowadays people no matter poor or what, gambling like a mad and addicted in the end.
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