Throwing Trump under the bus and persecuting him is a very risky move, so I don't think this will happen. Don't forget that he still has ~75 million votes, and his loyal right-wing fans could snap.
Anyway, I think previous leaders also have some kind of immunity since I can't remember when last time we sue previous leaders because of their crimes.
No previous leader has come anywhere close to the line Trump has crossed with the possible exception being Spiro Agnew (Nixons VP). You call it persecution, but it has nothing to do with his political beliefs and everything to do with deterring future Presidents from abusing their power.
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Pandering to Trumps base is one thing, though I highly doubt the 40% of Americans (his base, probably a smaller number then this though) support what happened in the Capitol today.
Well, even if that's the case, there is another angle that could work - this was a false flag attack to push Biden's certification through. They will adopt whatever narrative plays best with the base and I doubt it would be "Trump incited violence at the Capitol". Keep in mind that none of the "election fraud" fantasy is going away and that is the foundation of this whole conflict. Tash has you covered: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5307332.msg56041284#msg56041284BADecker will fill us in on the details later today I'm sure.
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With Ted Cruz making a fool of himself (in his defense, hilariously unlucky timing having to go from his speech to hiding under his desk) and so many Republicans finally conceding Trump is a psycho I expect a whole bunch of people working for Trump to resign very soon if they have any reputation left to salvage.
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The current chaos could have been avoided, if a full forensic audit of the election would have been accepted, by the crooked Democrats and RINOs. But they knew their cheating would been exposed, so they denied any large scale forensic examination of the ballots, scans of ballots, signatures, etc. No, they didn't. The Democrats don't make those decisions, and there were tons of recounts and litigation before the votes were certified. The only way this could have been avoided would have been if the Republicans successfully committed fraud and gave Trump the presidency. Rudy Giuliani announced today that his team forensically intercepted the Georgia election (5th January) cheating traffic. Maybe tomorrow we'll have details.
Or maybe he's full of shit just like he was during every election related lawsuit that got thrown in the trash.
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He might be leaving without a twitter account.
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embedded live stream for you.
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On paper right now it's really close, but it seems like the most likely outcome is Dems sweeping when considering which ballots have yet to be counted. Decision desk already called Warnock:
I am surprised that Warnock is outperforming Ossoff considering that Warnock is apparently a wife beater.
Check out Loefflers scandals and the police report about Warnock's ex wifes foot.
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Listened to a 538 podcast recently and they addressed this - it's more likely than you would think, mostly because of the "I don't vote for women or black guys" crowd. There will be a little effect from that, and one-of-each could happen, but I think that the average person is incorrectly reasoning about this in the opposite direction. I've seen a lot of people thinking basically, "Each candidate has about a 50% chance of winning, so the chance that the Democrats win both is 50%*50% = 25%." The results of both elections will be extremely highly correlated, though, so that line of thinking is totally wrong, and it's giving a whole lot of people the wrong intuition. I think most people would assume that both seats would go to the same party almost certainly. At least that's been my assumption. If they're very tight races, it very well could be the anti black/female voters that make it a split decision. Although they're more likely to stay home I suppose.
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He's done that a bunch of times recently.
Biden is Uniting the country before he even steps into the White House: Pretty crazy how much bipartisan support he's had both during and after the election.
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The sad thing is millions of people will read that tweet and convince themselves it's true. Poor Pence - just when he thought he was getting out of there without an angry mob of crazys coming after him.
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Why would Trump go to prison? I think democrats will forget about him the moment he is out of office as he drifts into irrelevancy. I like to think of it like the time Trump promised a special prosecutor for Hillary Clinton. The moment he won, he dropped the act really quick. The extremists in the Biden administration (such as Harris and those associated with Harris) want Trump in prison because they want to stomp out dissent, and want to prevent him from influencing voters. Unlike Clinton, Trump has a large base that is specific to him. Also, in the beginning of the Trump administration, Clinton largely was discrediting the Trump Presidency via proxies, while Trump will likely personally discredit the Biden administration. A lot of people seem to be assuming Biden will weaponize the DOJ the way Trump has, I think that's very unlikely. It may sound extreme compared to how Trump does things now, but there was a system in place to keep any decisions involving domestic law enforcement away from the president, and the president would go out of his way to only encourage broad strategies to his LE and intelligence agencies on anything domestic. Suggesting charges or an investigation of specific group, or business, or person or, worst of them all, a political person would be unheard of and a massive scandal. Not just Obama, every president for decades. It's possible Biden tells the AG not to charge Trump, but I think the most likely situation will be Biden being as far away as possible from the decision. And I doubt his choice for AG will be based on anticipating how the nominee would deal with Trumps crimes specifically.
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They (admins) concluded to go with baseless accusations from randoms without further or even any investigation on their part and by forcefully removing me without even inquiring me too in the first place, if thats not rude and condescending action on their part I don't what is. Also why would you point the finger at me asif you're a judge TwitchySeal, that is not an appropriate way to discuss the matter at hand.
What were the accusations. That's what I'm asking. You're the one that brought it up.
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No beans to spill, my reputation is absolutely stellar at Stake / Primedice which is a much larger site and community than Bitvest. I am just seriously unhappy how they choose to handle someone who contributed tons to the site before so just gotta bring this public. This is the only site that I find their administrative decisions downright disgusting. Ask around as much as you like about me in the community I mentioned. What's up with the "accusations of loaning that is outside of their jurisdiction"? Obviously it wasn't just the act of loaning and there's more to it.
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Greetings everyone, I'm an ex-moderator of Bitvest who has been forcefully removed by the admins of Bitvest without proper investigations of undue accusations of loaning that is outside of their jurisdiction and outside of Bitvest
You're obviously not just being accused of 'loaning'. Sounds like you scammed someone and they banned you, why not just spill the beans now before someone else explains what really happened first.
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I would like to expose the methods where the admins of Bitvest constantly and very methodically keep the hotwallet amounts withdrawable on the site to an absolute minimum amounts whereby you can almost never withdraw a big win of anything above 1 BTC more or less instantly
1 BTC is reasonable for a hot wallet, there's always a chance an exploit is found which costs the site the balance. It's happened before and it will probably happen again. 'constantly and methodically' implies the wallet will never run empty and the majority of cash out requests will be instant. Making funds a player has requested to withdraw easily available to gamble with is not a good look though, I'll give you that.
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What are the chances that one democrat wins and one Republican wins?
I get that people will go down to the polls and just vote down party lines, meaning in pairs of Republicans or in pairs of democrats, but I wonder if Warnock brings any intersectional advantage to the table that would drive people towards him and just him.
Just food for thought.
Listened to a 538 podcast recently and they addressed this - it's more likely than you would think, mostly because of the "I don't vote for women or black guys" crowd. Side note: There's been a huge lack of polling due to the holidays and many pollsters not seeing any upside to going to Georgia in the current climate (pussys), but Warnock (d) is a pretty big favorite and the other race is basically a toss up - kind of a surprise for me, but again, very little data is available and there's nothing normal about tomorrow.
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'. You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation. In other words, you're arguing in bad faith. That was taken out of context. I agree that Trump has poorly phrased that, but what he meant was not "find me 11,780 votes for Trump", but to discount at least 11,780 (of many more) fraudulent votes for Biden. Adding 1 ballot for Trump is essentially the same as taking away 1 for Biden. What he meant was "make it so that I won", to the SOS that explicitly said he did not win. Either way, imagine the headlines you'd be posting if a similar recording of a Democrat were released. Would you be saying 'it shouldn't have been released', or 'that incriminating statement was phrased poorly?'. lol. Seriously, close your eyes and imagine what your reaction would be. It was a litigation settlement, these are supposed to be privileged. I watched the SOS on Fox, avoiding to answer the question about the leak, he knows he's in trouble in many ways. The cases were already litigated. Judge after judge threw them in the trash where they belong. What you heard was Trump both begging and trying to intimidate the SOS into making Trump the winner of Georgia. Pathetic on so many levels, but not the least bit surprising.
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'. You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation. In other words, you're arguing in bad faith. That was taken out of context. I agree that Trump has poorly phrased that, but what he meant was not "find me 11,780 votes for Trump", but to discount at least 11,780 (of many more) fraudulent votes for Biden. Adding 1 ballot for Trump is essentially the same as taking away 1 for Biden. What he meant was "make it so that I won", to the SOS that explicitly said he did not win. Either way, imagine the headlines you'd be posting if a similar recording of a Democrat were released. Would you be saying 'it shouldn't have been released', or 'that incriminating statement was phrased poorly?'. lol. Seriously, close your eyes and imagine what your reaction would be.
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Sad. Trump is trying his best to make Nixon look like a saint. I listened to the whole call, not just the selected minutes. The call is a settlement talk, which should have not been leaked. Trump is nice to the crooked SOS, tells him to do the right thing, and discount at least some of fraudulent votes. The SOS keeps lying that all was OK. IMO Trump is being too agreeable, in his place I would have been much tougher on the SOS. I notice you didn't mention the part where Trump asked him to 'find 11,780 votes'. You're defending what Trump said on the phone call because you agree with Trump politically, not because you actually think what was said was an acceptable thing for a President to say to a SOS in this situation. In other words, you're arguing in bad faith.
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So I spent like 2 hours reading some of his Blogs and most of Deep Capture last night. Byrne knows how to tell a story. And I think he's probably just insane and got realllly lucky but maybe not.
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