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1161  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 01, 2022, 11:32:20 PM
Again, I simply require somewhat less validation of a lot of the info put out by RT or Putin, Lavrov, etc.  But I don't think that you really understand the concept of validation.

So in the beginning of the war, when Putin was saying there was no war, and you were repeating it, how did you go about validating that?  Putin said so, and you found a video online of someone else saying it?  Is that it?


LOCAL IN UKRAINE "NO WAR HERE" & COMPLETELY FAKE ASS MSM NEWS FOOTAGE & NARRATIVE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/htTj6cGnTgZC/

This is turning into a pretty good comedy.  Especially enjoyable is watching the reactions of the (highly vaxxed) mouth breathers who watch the mainstream media and think it's real.


1162  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 01, 2022, 09:00:42 PM
Thanks for your sagacious input (quoted for the benefit of future generations).  I guess my sources were wrong and there have never been any tensions between the Ukrainians and the Poles in that area.  Nothing but brotherly love from the beginning of time, and any possible tensions are completely out of the question as a future issue.

It's quite obvious by now that you have no clue about European history and just make shit up or parrot bitchute videos of similarly clueless "sources".

Poland - just like most nations in that area - has had many conflicts with its neighbors. That doesn't mean it's going to invade Germany, Lithuania, or Ukraine.

Of course Poland would never 'attack' or 'invade' Ukraine.  They might just do a 'special military action' and put 'peacekeepers' there to 'help protect' the areas they want some control over and resources from.  Much like Russia is doing in the South and East in fact.  Maybe 'democratic' elections would 'prove' that the people of Western Ukraine would want to become part of Poland someday.  Or maybe part of New Israel.  Who knows?

The problem Poland would have would be how to manage the Nationalists...at least the ones which have not been taken care of already by the Donbass people and Russia.  The Russian intel guy says that they are actively soliciting persons in Kiev right now who would work with them to mitigate that looming hassle.


I am not aware of any indication that Poland actually wants to occupy Ukraine. I have been aware that Putin has been wanting to invade Ukraine for years (decades?), and has been making incremental steps in invading Ukraine since Obama was president.

Poland has no interest in Ukraine, Russia does.

Seems like Poland has been arguably Ukraines most loyal ally going back to Putin taking Crimea.  Probably because what Putin is doing to Ukraine is so similar to what Stalin did to Poland when the Soviets invaded.  Stalins public explanation for the invasion was to rescue their "blood brothers" from Ukraine and Belarus, who were illegally being held by Poland.  They called it a campaign of "liberation".  The truth was Stalin made a secret deal with Hitler so that the Soviets and Nazis could each have a piece of Poland.

Poland/Ukraine relations haven't been perfect, but the idea that Poland would invade Ukraine seems like more Moscow nonsense that sadly many will just believe.
1163  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 01, 2022, 12:47:13 PM
tvbcof you need to lay off the Russian propaganda.  be.open has an excuse, you don't.

I'm glad you believe this because it scratches my trolling itch, but as I've said before, I don't have a dog in his fight.

Doesn't seem that way.  You shit all over anything related to the West and talk up Putin for being such a "straight shooter" (lol).

Doesn't seem that way to you and other 'normies' perhaps, but there are some people who have a more developed sense of the world or are just wired differently.

Yeah ok.  NY Times = garbage but RT.com, or even better straight shooter Putin himself and you eat it up and spew it out.
1164  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 01, 2022, 08:19:17 AM
tvbcof you need to lay off the Russian propaganda.  be.open has an excuse, you don't.

I'm glad you believe this because it scratches my trolling itch, but as I've said before, I don't have a dog in his fight.

Doesn't seem that way.  You shit all over anything related to the West and talk up Putin for being such a "straight shooter" (lol).

This "Poland wants to occupy part of Ukraine" line seemed bonkers to me, so I do a little research...oh look, Russian State Media article 3 days ago that you basically were just paraphrasing:





Of course Poland would never 'attack' or 'invade' Ukraine.  They might just do a 'special military action' and put 'peacekeepers' there to 'help protect' the areas they want some control over and resources from.  Much like Russia is doing in the South and East in fact.  Maybe 'democratic' elections would 'prove' that the people of Western Ukraine would want to become part of Poland someday.  Or maybe part of New Israel.  Who knows?

The problem Poland would have would be how to manage the Nationalists...at least the ones which have not been taken care of already by the Donbass people and Russia.  The Russian intel guy says that they are actively soliciting persons in Kiev right now who would work with them to mitigate that looming hassle.
1165  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: May 01, 2022, 05:11:33 AM
tvbcof you need to lay off the Russian propaganda.  be.open has an excuse, you don't.
1166  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 29, 2022, 01:01:12 PM
OF course both USA and Russia will deny it but Ukraine is their playground for at least 20 years.
USA would do better for Ukraine by investing all those billions into Ukraine economy instead in arms,
maybe their GDP per capita would not be 1/3 of Russian

Except Kosovo is recognized by most countries.  So no.

If you meant "most USA colonies" then yes
What good is an economy without a country?

And btw, these countries recognize Kosovos independence.

Afghanistan
Albania
Costa Rica
France
Senegal
Turkey
United Kingdom
United States
Australia
Latvia
Germany
Estonia
Italy
Denmark
Luxembourg
Peru
Belgium
Poland
Switzerland
Austria
Ireland
Sweden
Netherlands
Iceland
Slovenia
Finland
Canada
Japan
Monaco
Hungary
Croatia
Bulgaria
Liechtenstein
South Korea
Norway
Marshall Islands
Burkina Faso
Lithuania
San Marino
Czech Republic
Liberia
Colombia
Belize
Malta
Samoa
Portugal
Montenegro
North Macedonia
United Arab Emirates
Malaysia
Federated States of Micronesia
Panama
Maldives
Gambia
Saudi Arabia
Bahrain
Jordan
Dominican Republic
New Zealand
Malawi
Mauritania
Eswatini
Vanuatu
Djibouti
Somalia
Honduras
Kiribati
Tuvalu
Qatar
Guinea-Bissau
Andorra
Guinea
Niger
Benin
Saint Lucia
Gabon
Ivory Coast
Kuwait
Haiti
Brunei
Chad
Timor-Leste
Fiji
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Pakistan
Tanzania
Guyana
Yemen
Egypt
Thailand
Libya
El Salvador
Antigua and Barbuda
Singapore
Bangladesh
Barbados
Israel

So no, not the same.
1167  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 29, 2022, 11:57:51 AM
I remember origins of conflict very well. Independence of Donbass and Luhansk, recognized by no one, backed just by Russia with their army in region. It's same like referendum in Crimea.

Or Kosovo.

Except Kosovo is recognized by most countries.  So no.

What Milosevic did to the people of Kosovo is similiar to what Putin is doing to Ukraine though.  Hopefully Putin suffers the same fate as Milosevic
1168  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 27, 2022, 12:46:13 AM
Do you still think it's naive and foolish to doubt a Russian parade in Kyiv on May 9?  That's just two weeks away now...
I think this forecast has already lost its relevance.
If it weren't for that law they just passed about what you can say about the war special operation, I'd give you a hard time about letting your emotions keep you from admitting that Russia got their ass whooped in the battle for Kyiev.
1169  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 26, 2022, 03:45:29 PM
I think that the Ukrainian military strategically has been mostly intelligent and technically well prepared. When Putin stated over and over that he would not invade Ukraine, they did not prepare for the best case, but for the worst scenario and they were right.
Ukraine has been actively preparing for its attack on the Donbass all winter. There was a lot of talk about the possibility of a Russian invasion, but however, it turned out to be a complete surprise for Ukraine, NATO intelligence simply overslept it. The genius of Putin's strategy lies precisely in the fact that, according to the military canons current as of February 2022, it was technically impossible - too small forces participated in Russian military exercises near the border with Ukraine and NATO intelligence did not take this threat seriously. This gave Russia at the start of the operation the staggering advantage of a surprise strike from which Ukraine still seems to be in shock.

Wasn't the surprise that Russia failed and ended up retreating 5 weeks after the war began?  Everyone thought it would be a matter of weeks or even a few days for Kyiv to fall, but the world overestimated the capabilities of the Russian Army and underestimated Ukraine, including you:

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The Armed Forces of Ukraine are well motivated and hardened by the eight-year war with Donbas, plus trained by NATO instructors, but without air support and artillery against the regular army of the Russian Federation in direct confrontation, it has no even theoretical chances. Therefore, Kyiv was surrounded only from three sides, and they are waiting for civilians to get out of the city to the maximum in order to minimize losses among civilians. All who do not lay down their arms will be destroyed - and it is foolish not to understand this.


Do you still think it's naive and foolish to doubt a Russian parade in Kyiv on May 9?  That's just two weeks away now...
In Kyiv on May 9 2022, a traditional parade will be held in honor of the victory of the USSR over Nazi Germany. It is naive and foolish to doubt it.

Care to make any more bold predictions? Zelinsky seems to be much more confident now that he has seen the Russian army in action.

1170  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 25, 2022, 05:22:13 PM
Attacks on civilian infrastructure are a sign of genocide

Russia has been attacking civilian infrastructure.







https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/03/23/world/europe/ukraine-civilian-attacks.html

These pictures are all from March 22 or earlier.  Imagine how much has been done since.
1171  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - 🦉 DRAKE x STAKE 🥩 - Watford FC & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: April 25, 2022, 09:46:06 AM
Hello everyone

I have a doubt. When I reached plat 3, they gave me a $70 daily bonus for 14 days.


I have now reached plat 4 and the bonus has been $6 a day for 7 days

It is normal?



I did not want to say anything to my vip host because I did not want to bother her

All the best

Its based on your recent game play.  You must have wagered a lot more during the 2 weeks before you hit plat 3 than you did before plat 4.
1172  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 25, 2022, 09:26:59 AM
Who did they join before NATO?
If there were no military conflict during that time, they should stick to it to avoid war since they are no position to win. There were disputes between the two countries but it didn't end in war.

They were a part of the Budapest Memorandum in the 90s: Russia, the UK and America agreed to protect Ukraine and a few other countries in the region in exchange for giving up their nuclear weapons.


If there were no military conflict during that time, they should stick to it to avoid war since they are no position to win. There were disputes between the two countries but it didn't end in war.

They've been in a military conflict since Russia took Crimea 8 years ago.  There have been more than 10,000 deaths from then until Feb 24, 2022.
1173  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 25, 2022, 09:09:01 AM
You are lying, as always.
Here are some videos with residents of Melitopol.

Residents of Melitopol meet Russian Nazis
https://youtu.be/NMG3whbQygo

Protest action in temporarily occupied Melitopol
https://youtu.be/eFi191_FC0Q
It is curious that the protest action is openly taking place in the city occupied by the Russians and no one seems to be shooting at them. And there are more people in the queues for Russian humanitarian aid than at these rallies. This video is more than a month and a half old, since then the mood in Melitopol seems to have changed to a more pro-Russian one.

The problem is not that you are being lied to. Your problem is that you are deceiving yourself.

Not really that curious.  The videos are from early March, before Russia realized what they were getting themselves into.

The problem is that you're being lied to, and also deceiving yourself.
1174  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 25, 2022, 03:35:46 AM
Zelensky is confuse of which is his priorities. If he wants to continue to play hero for the NATO, he can go on with the war. But if he wants to be a hero for the Ukrainians, lets top the war and lets provide a better place of the Ukrainians and not completely drive them away form their own country.  Stop watching people dying out of hunger.

I think you're confused.   Working to qualify for and join NATO has been part of Ukraines constitution for almost a decade, years before Zelensky was elected..  And because of Putin, other countries who previously showed little interest appear to be changing their minds.

Don't you think Ukraine should be able to decide which alliance they join?
1175  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 25, 2022, 02:19:42 AM
We couldn't really say how much are dead on Ukraine's side. Only the Russians has the time to count their dead mean since they have this war in control. Ukrainian dead were even left on the roadside to rot. And the infrastructures that are destroyed are in Ukraine. If they want their country to be still like remains as is which they can pick up the pieces and resume back to where they are before the war, they could just go on with the peacetalks. Putin still offer the peacetalks afaik.

If Zelensky has care for the country he should be accepting the peace talk that Putin is offering. Its been two months, no one is going to go to Ukraine for war. Regret always happen after things are over but they can stop it while its yet not too late. They may even given opportunities after. Heck Russia has more gas and oil to offer to Ukraine if they make business instead. They may even help rebuild the country.

I thought you were joking, but maybe not...
1176  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 25, 2022, 12:48:53 AM


yep, another whattabout. Since it happened here, there and somewhere, it is ok to have it in Ukraine.

And if somehow America invading those countries makes it ok for Russia to invade Ukraine today, then why wasn't it ok for America to invade those countries because of all the invasions carried out by the Soviet Union?
1177  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - 🦉 DRAKE x STAKE 🥩 - Watford FC & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: April 25, 2022, 12:45:25 AM
I am not entirely sure why Stake owes people money in this situation, don't get me wrong I am not saying they shouldn't, if they are going to then I am all for it so that I could get paid Cheesy.

However, I just want to learn why you think they owe everyone some money? They were attacked, and they had to face a lot of problems and hopefully it's fixed and now they are back on track, why does this have to do anything with you guys that they have to pay? At the very worst case, if you wagered on sports and couldn't cash out early, they could void those bets because you weren't capable of live cashing out, but aside from those bets, nothing seems to be impacted by this.

And why all the pearl clutching because they didn't mention the ddos attack at first.  What difference does it make why the site is down?  
1178  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Russian Invasion of Ukraine[In Progress] on: April 24, 2022, 06:37:56 PM
What seems to have happened in Bucha is that Ukrainian SS teams quickly filled the vacuum when the Russians left and assassinated the 'collaborators'.

There's satellite footage of bodies in the street while the Russians were occupying the city.

There's drone footage of Russians open firing on civilians.

There have been dozens of interviews from survivors. 

Reports from dozens of Independent journalists from all over the world directly conflict what you believe "seems to have happened".

Your theory would require a massive conspiracy to cover up how all those people were killed.
1179  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - 🦉 DRAKE x STAKE 🥩 - Watford FC & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: April 24, 2022, 04:51:10 PM
Is anybody else having trouble right now with accessing Stake? Also tried their mirror sites but I can't login. The site is loading fine but when I want to login, nothing happens. No  error or anything else, I am just not able to log in. Already cleaned my cookies and cache.

About 3 hours ago there was an announcement in telegram that they are doing some upgrades that may make lags and errors.
I also experience some lags few minutes ago when I was playing, game stopped many times so it seems that the upgrade is still running now.
Perhaps we need to wait until there is an official information on telegram that all the upgrades are done so we can play again without any issue.

Edit: few seconds ago, there is new update in telegram that they are down because they are working to restore services.

The "downtime" was a stupid excuse, there was a ddos attack obviously, 190000 members online is impossible, site is lagging when 15000 are online, lol. Thats why they fked up the stream and wasted the time of thousands of viewers as well.
Why not be honest about it ? Instead they feed their customers this bullshit, as usual.

I don't know how you checked and confirmed that it was a ddos attack, but if it's true, it's not good for the image of the casino to admit mistakes. I think they are still checking what really happened and there will be an official announcement from them soon.

Of course it was ddos when almost 200k people are in online in the chat, dont need silly excuses for that. The "official" statement is now on telegram and guess what, ddos.
Oh and the "apology" is very "generous", 5$ drop for 5000 people, with 2k wager requirement  Huh Huh . According to the stake forum players have lost way more because of this than just 5$.

Overall the players actually made (lost less) money since fewer bets were made.  

And STILL they lost money because the site didnt work properly, no need to defend stake in this.

 Huh

i thought you had abandoned your stake.com account, as soon as i saw your post i remembered that you had posted that you abandoned your stake.com account besides you are always complaining about the stake, but you keep playing at stake Grin

Abandoned means I do not deposit there anymore.
I am still getting bonus and stuff and with this I play as there are min withdrawal limits. And what I do and dont is not your concern.

Anyway, it does not change the fact that stake was lying and came with an excuse of short downtime instead of telling its users there is a ddos attack.

And I only complain if there is a reason, and stake gives its users plenty. Eddie lying all the time and gives false infos, easter promo garbage, players getting stripped of hosts and reloads even though promised to be permanent, getting charged too much for withdrawal fees, and so on.  All valid complains.

But I am not surprised yet another clown with stake sig comes to defend them.
ddos attacks cause downtime. Take a breath.
1180  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - 🦉 DRAKE x STAKE 🥩 - Watford FC & UFC Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: April 24, 2022, 06:54:26 AM
Is anybody else having trouble right now with accessing Stake? Also tried their mirror sites but I can't login. The site is loading fine but when I want to login, nothing happens. No  error or anything else, I am just not able to log in. Already cleaned my cookies and cache.

About 3 hours ago there was an announcement in telegram that they are doing some upgrades that may make lags and errors.
I also experience some lags few minutes ago when I was playing, game stopped many times so it seems that the upgrade is still running now.
Perhaps we need to wait until there is an official information on telegram that all the upgrades are done so we can play again without any issue.

Edit: few seconds ago, there is new update in telegram that they are down because they are working to restore services.

The "downtime" was a stupid excuse, there was a ddos attack obviously, 190000 members online is impossible, site is lagging when 15000 are online, lol. Thats why they fked up the stream and wasted the time of thousands of viewers as well.
Why not be honest about it ? Instead they feed their customers this bullshit, as usual.

I don't know how you checked and confirmed that it was a ddos attack, but if it's true, it's not good for the image of the casino to admit mistakes. I think they are still checking what really happened and there will be an official announcement from them soon.

Of course it was ddos when almost 200k people are in online in the chat, dont need silly excuses for that. The "official" statement is now on telegram and guess what, ddos.
Oh and the "apology" is very "generous", 5$ drop for 5000 people, with 2k wager requirement  Huh Huh . According to the stake forum players have lost way more because of this than just 5$.

Overall the players actually made (lost less) money since fewer bets were made. 
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