Is AM shareholder of this new Rockminer company ? Or are all AM shareholders cut loose and will profit only be for the happy few ? I mean AM will make no or minimal profit by selling gen3 chips at $0.49/GH. Other way around. Rockminer holds shares of AM. And you are wrong about making no profit. If AM sells 1600PH with a profit of $0.5/GH that would mean 1,600,000 BTC or 4 btc per share. |
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IMHO putting 30 Spooners in one rack is a non-starter. Because of the heat density you would have to spread them amongst racks. Most ordinary racks can not dissipate more than about 10KW with the doors closed without some serious (i.e. expensive) cooling solurtion (water cooling, sealed hot/cold aisle, high volume air flow, etc.). Also, most data centres are not designed to handle that kind of spot heat output (I worked in data centres for 36 years). Sorry, big generalisation here as I do not know your precise circumstances, but when I watched their video when they said you could put 30 in one rack I split my sides laughing.  You're welcome to visit our state of the art DC in Israel. No water cooling, very efficient air cooling. PUE? |
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I'm still interested to know if FC still has a solomining goal of 10% ...
When I was investing into this company ~ 1 year ago, it was publicly known that ASICminer's goal is to maintain at least 10% of global hashrate, so i did some calculations and bought shares. I was investing into mining company which goal was to mine bitcoins. I was not investing into chip manufacture which will be selling chips for fiat after one year. But yeah ... I am now in huge 75% loss, no point of selling now. I feel quite fucked by ASICminer. You might be the only person who feels they were screwed by asicminer. I am assuming you bought when AM had 30% hashrate? The 10% goal would have brought in 100k bitcoins per year which is only half of what asicminer earned. AM can only mine if it is economically feasible. Can you imagine how much smaller last years earnings would have been without hardware sales? We were able to squeeze an extra 80k bitcoins from selling hardware that would probably never or just barely reach a positive roi. I think FC knows this game better than anyone and will go down whatever path is most profitable as has been done in the past. |
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Quote from jutarul. The official non-official relayer of info. 5) What is the status and capacity of the immersion-cooling data center, and will it house some of the 3rd generation hardware used for mining?
re 5) Capacity is at least 1P. And yes it will be used.
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So it looks like havelock pricing has adjusted for low dividends. It would be great if Friedcat could provide some guidance on whether or not AM is still going to self mine with their chips and is going to shoot for holding 10% of the network. Is juratol the designated board member contact? Could you maybe get a response from Friedcat.
Nothing has been said about abandoning this goal but the fact that they aren't going to be manufacturing miners and the board member involvement in Rockxie has me concerned.
Few of your questions have already been answered. AM will be solomining with the immersion-cooled datacenter. No word about the air-cooled dc or franchising but my guess is that they will both be converted to gen3. Also AM will manufacturer some small batches of gen3 machines. I'm still interested to know if FC still has a solomining goal of 10% which would be a nice addition to chip sales. |
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Get that bullshit out of here. Theres a reason nobody posts in that thread or takes it seriously. |
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Now that it's April, I guess it's time to update the list:
Oct: "November / December Initial Shipping"
Nov: "November / December Initial Shipping"
Dec: "With that in mind, our current schedule is on track for shippments to begin towards end of year."
Jan: "However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and plan to begin shipments in January 2014."
Feb: "However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and plan to begin shipments in February, 2014."
Mar: "However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and plan to begin shipments in February, 2014."
Apr: "However, this is our second generation, so we have much greater clarity on the process and plan to begin shipments in February, 2014."
I'm not going to include all of those because it is more like the same lie repeated. If I did that then they would have 100+ lies on the list by now. |
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As for the mods supposed "scam-loving", Do your own homework, if you get scammed it is your own fault, do not blame the mods for that.
Hey, do you own homework yourself, and learn how to write properly. This is about mods removing and banning criticism of scams. There is a fine line between critisism and trolling. MPOE-PR had stepped miles across that line. |
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Yeah... I know what are we discussing...
Stay brainwashed. Do what your goverment say to do.
Living in fantasy land confirmed. Let us know when you want to join us in reality. |
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And yet Inaba can slander and defame people up and down the forums for years and nothing is done? Funny.
Nothing surprising. The forum is rotten at its core, many mods and admins deeply involved in scams (and what a joke is DefaultTrust?); as far as I'm concerned, their actions make them scammers too. You can pretty much assume that mod = scamlover. Almost as rotten as the cult of mpex and bitcoin-assets |
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This will be the last month of MPOE-PR salary. The Bitcointalk forum moderators finally took exception to her public naming and shaming of their favourite scams, and banned her. I suppose in a sense this is best for all those involved. Source: TrilemaWow so mpoe-pr was literally paid to do nothing but spam these forums. I thought there was more to the job than that. Well in the end she earned a cool few hundred btc for trolling. Something many do for free. |
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well... a judge "order" from US is worth like 0.00000001 btc (better make it dodge) for the rest of the world... (put a judge from US to decide about Crimeea then  )))) Well unfortunately thats not entirely true unless by "rest of the world" you mean 3rd world countries who don't do business with the US. You are living in fantasy land if you think the US has no power overseas. Hell they raided kim dotcoms house and he wasn't even breaking the law. Now your comparing complex government affairs with a random guy running a highly illegal security scheme? Clearly logical |
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Would be good to see a video or some kind of hard evidence.
Seems like escrow isnt hard evidence on purchasing a good that will be delivered to your house prior payment clearance. You can call us anytime and we will be glad to answer all your questions. Already have many orders coming in and will be cleared. Upon clients receive their miners, we will ask them to vouch/feedback on this thread with their experience. We are doing our best to provide the best service. You could just take a few pictures of your "in stock" hardware. But then again that would be too easy and what a normal company would do. |
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Don't worry mircea will just buy any shares dumped. Thats part of the benefits of being a ponzi scheme. |
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I was replying to jimmothy, it looks like he thinks that pre-order customers are getting the product they pre-ordered but like you said, they are getting new product. Those old items don't and won't ever exist.
Didn't ken say they are still working on their own 28nm asic? Is this not what was available for preorder? |
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Why would anyone keep a preorder for vmc brand asic instead of a hashfast?
Hashfast boards are now going for ~$3/gh
Vmc platinum miner is more than $10/gh
Because , I ordered from HashFast and Ken at the same time (November) , i am batch 3&4 on HashFast , And i will not be receiving anything before May . And from Ken , i will be mining this week , with 250% of power i ordered . So , im glad i din't cancel or refunded my order . I understand it would be a much better deal to go with the hashfast boards shipping now. I am just wondering if there is any incentive to stick with the vmc asic instead. As of now it seems like they are equal in power/efficiency only the vmc machine is 4 times more expensive and shipping in a few months. |
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Why would anyone keep a preorder for vmc brand asic instead of a hashfast?
Hashfast boards are now going for ~$3/gh
Vmc platinum miner is more than $10/gh
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You do not have to destroy years worth of people's work to make that point So being paid to troll for 2 years is now considered work? Interesting. |
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Verify ID and list on havelock and I'm sure many might consider investing.
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Spondoolies are around 0.9 w/gh at the wall What is this offering at the wall? Not 0.5 I bet. Who is the ESCROW? Thats what they are claiming. Although I don't think they are legit. But escrow.com is legit |
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