Wasn't made an announcement by you synechist that all the code reviews were going to be announced here as well as in the other coins thread at the same time??
Is it still going on like this or not? Did not see it happen for librex and stealth...
I'm keen to let you guys know about these reviews every single time. However there are two factors that may (and sometimes will) prevent this: - The other coin blurts out the news despite Dan asking them to co-ordinate with me first. - I'm not around to hear from Dan about a review when the coin blurts it out. That said, I hope you've had a good time with Halcyon so far. I certainly have. :-) |
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It doesn't bother me at all that Dan reviews code of other altcoins.
Honestly, I think it's a win for Xcurrency in the longrun because the more people who learn about Dan and his respected background, the more people will be introduced to XC.
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What's happening with Dan Metcalf lately ? The temptation of fast bitcoins corrupted him ? I see that he uses his reputation to pump every shitcoin out there. Stealth, Key, Halcyon ? He even writes posts to their threads, hyping the audits, announcing the specific dates for the results. After he posted a message to halcyon thread, it went up 2 times in price. It baffles me. I've read this entire XC thread and the other old one and i thought he is legit. Almost disgusting to see this happening...
I've started a proof-of-code service, to review code and in the future will also be doing digital signatures on builds so that users can be assured that the wallet is clean and virus free. Yes it is a paid service that I'm doing in my spare-time. Dan Dan is helping verify that other coins that people are buying aren't just hot air. It's a win for crypto. Trust is a major issue in altcoins. It's very valuable to have someone perform the function Dan is performing here. It significantly diminishes the potential for FUD (and we all know how awful a FUDstorm can be for a young coin. XC had it the worst, didn't it? So we want to help eliminate the kind of abusive behaviour that almost sunk XC.) XC has always stood for moving crypto forward. This is another small way in which Dan does so. |
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What's happening with Dan Metcalf lately ? The temptation of fast bitcoins corrupted him ? I see that he uses his reputation to pump every shitcoin out there. Stealth, Key, Halcyon ? He even writes posts to their threads, hyping the audits, announcing the specific dates for the results. After he posted a message to halcyon thread, it went up 2 times in price. It baffles me. I've read this entire XC thread and the other old one and i thought he is legit. Almost disgusting to see this happening...
As a result of his reviews, XC has become the go-to project for legitimacy and has become recognised as a tech leader. Enough said. |
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It seems that Jasin was brought on board with the intention of one day in the future being a developer. But things never progressed to the point where he started working on an XC/CACHE link. It was only ideas and concepts.
And as we can see XC team have responded by removing any link with Jasin.
So what's the damn problem??
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think he was listed as a devloper because he was a developer of Cachecoin. I don't think it was ever intended that he was to be seen as an XC developer. Things were moving pretty fast during that time, so it's understandable that some things were not 100% clear. The XC team were not to know everything about Jasin and his other activities, and I don't think we can blame any of them if Jasin's other activities have "problems" Agreed, XC does not have the manpower and resources to do thorough screenings of individuals (this goes for every other altcoin for that matter), and AFAIK this was made to the team's attention well after they decided on the collab. It still boggles my mind how people can come in here and associate XC with 'scam' and 'jasinlee'. Yes, we have made our statement on this and consider it resolved. There is no further need for the community to engage with any posts about Jasinlee here. Other than asking the posters to leave, that is. ;-) |
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But an honest PR team isn't important to XC?
It's very important to XC. That's why we've been completely candid all the way along. Or do you doubt this? |
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What about the new UI preview?
That's Rev 2.5. |
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When are we going to get some juicy details regarding some of the new and yet to be disclosed tech of REV2?
Press release frequency on Rev 2 will increase as we approach the deadline. |
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Let's change the topic...
How about - - Final REV2 releases in one week!
This should be the MAIN topic right now!  Yup, one week from tomorrow! |
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Statement on XC's relation to JasinleeHello all We would like to state the nature of XC's relation to Jasinlee. Jasinlee is not an official member of the XC Team, as has been reflected on our website for some time. Jasinlee chose to remove himself from the XC Team out of concern for the effect that ongoing misperceptions about his troubled ASIC project might have on XC. As such, XC is entirely independent of Jasinlee’s various projects, and clients of the Fibonacci ASIC project have no basis for associating its outcome with XC in any way. We consider this matter resolved. Now concerning a separate matter, that of public perceptions of Jasinlee’s character and actions, at no point has the XC Team had reason to lose faith in Jasinlee’s integrity of character or doubt his intentions, whether toward XC or toward Fibonacci. Furthermore Jasinlee is entirely confident that a resolution will be reached. As such we have confidence that Jasin will resolve the outstanding issues with the Fibonacci ASIC project. Furthermore we believe that current arguments to the contrary are poorly substantiated and largely speculative, and therefore lack sufficient warrant. Given their severity, these allegations are thus of a highly unethical nature. Finally, regarding Jasinlee’s past role at XC, he is a thought-leader, and we are grateful for his insightful and energising contribution and presence. However Jasinlee did not make any contributions to XC’s code and has not had access to it. Thus he has not been a developer for XC. Thanks for your patience, everyone, as XC moves past this. For the record, this announcement is on the official XC thread here: http://xctalk.com/index.php?/topic/185-statement-on-xcs-relation-to-jasinlee/ |
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Your statement says Jasin was never a developer.
Your PR person says Jasin was never a developer.
Dan is saying Jasin was a developer. No, Dan (ATCSECURE) has stated several times that Jasinlee was never a developer. Jasin was a developer until I blew the whistle. As you can see from that old PDF, he was listed as a developer. However he did not work on any XC code. He purely developed his own projects, some of which have relevance to XC. He never developed XC. Therefore he was never an XC developer. Get it? Dan is now trying to say Jasin stepped down on his own merit. No, I'm stating that Jasin stepped down on his own merit. I'm not Dan. I'm XC's PR person. HELLO PEOPLE?!
Uh, hi. |
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Great, now as you promised, 1 hour for questions:
Why was Jasinlee listed as a developer on your website and then removed less than an hour after I contacted Dan and Arlyn with all this info about the Fibonacci project. You can't keep beating around this bush.
You can go look up the PDF on the website dated 08 July 2014 in which he is listed as a developer. We're not hiding this fact. The whole point here is that he stepped down out of concern that XC would be affected by his troubles with his ASIC project. That is, he was on the XC team. P.S. I'm not aware of what info you supplied. I have never seen you before. Do you have another username? P.P.S What bush? |
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Statement on XC's relation to JasinleeHello all We would like to state the nature of XC's relation to Jasinlee. Jasinlee is not an official member of the XC Team, as has been reflected on our website for some time. Jasinlee chose to remove himself from the XC Team out of concern for the effect that ongoing misperceptions about his troubled ASIC project might have on XC. As such, XC is entirely independent of Jasinlee’s various projects, and clients of the Fibonacci ASIC project have no basis for associating its outcome with XC in any way. We consider this matter resolved. Now concerning a separate matter, that of public perceptions of Jasinlee’s character and actions, at no point has the XC Team had reason to lose faith in Jasinlee’s integrity of character or doubt his intentions, whether toward XC or toward Fibonacci. Furthermore Jasinlee is entirely confident that a resolution will be reached. As such we have confidence that Jasin will resolve the outstanding issues with the Fibonacci ASIC project. Furthermore we believe that current arguments to the contrary are poorly substantiated and largely speculative, and therefore lack sufficient warrant. Given their severity, these allegations are thus of a highly unethical nature. Finally, regarding Jasinlee’s past role at XC, he is a thought-leader, and we are grateful for his insightful and energising contribution and presence. However Jasinlee did not make any contributions to XC’s code and has not had access to it. Thus he has not been a developer for XC.
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Oh my lord. You're FINALLY going do what you should have done in your very first post in this thread instead of letting your obvious friendship with Jasin prevent you from doing your job. For someone who likes to present himself as superiorly intelligent it sure took you long enough to figure out how to do your job.
I have never met Jasin in person. XC has made three statements on Jasinlee prior to this, but since people continue to wilfully ignore what we say, we'll make another one. |
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A happy Sunday to you all folks!
A statement on Jasinlee's prior role in XC and on his current relation to XC will be made later today.
I anticipate that it will render future FUD on this topic futile.
Enjoy testing out the multipool.
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Man no wonder you guys .... Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving. +1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6845023#msg6845023And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts. Ya... again repeating the dumb as a rock comment. You see my sig right and my recent posts... Do I hide the fact that I am a XC advocate/investor? You make it sound like you made a huge discovery or something.... In what way am I "dumb as a rock"? Can't argue with XC's own document. Seems as if you're the one that has problems due to your puppy dog blinders. You might notice that the pdf is dated 8 July. It's out of date. XC will make a statement tomorrow regarding Jasinlee's prior position and role in XC, and his current relation to XC. In the time preceding that, you may say what you want to. |
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Man no wonder you guys .... Anything you might have to say regarding XC can safely be ignored since it would be completely self serving. +1 to this. I am holding a LOT of this coin. Not going to sell. This is way better than those other crap coins that go through the roof. When this dev gets through with it, I have a feeling it's going to be the best coin out of all of them. Just hope I can accumulate more before that happens. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6845023#msg6845023And by the way. I have no stake in all this (wasn't involved with the ASIC stuff, not involved with XC, not seriously involved with any specific "competitor"), just putting out facts. This post is known as an ad hominen argument. Google it. |
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Man that jasin drama thread title is really misleading, that fucking asshole puts Dan in a bad light for everybody that doesn't go into the thread. not cool.
My stance on the issue.
I hope you guys internally go really really hard on jasin right now. that dude has to explain in detail from start to finish and also show some proof for PoBC. The fact that he lets synechist and teka defend him here , go through all that stress not beeing able to do actual work, and not showing up for even one post, .., meh. i don't like. I don't know how big his contributions as a coder where but PR wise he caused a lot of trouble as of now and he doesn't bother to come on here and take XC a little bit out of the fire. I know he brought you to that conference, but all his actions afterwards didn't help but rather the opposite. I actually believe we would be trading higher now without him.
You guys have a track records for delivering stuff when its done, so PoBC is to far in the future to reflect in current price anyway. What i wanna say is without the outlook of PoBC but also without jasins drama (including the way he came forward with the collab) we would be higher know, i truly believe. at the time i didn't bother cause i wanted as much cheap XC as possible. But now the crunchtime in crypto starts again and we should be in the mix by october. Everything is on perfect track for this exept jasins troubles yet again (or still).
solve this shit for good before rev3! you don't wanna put in all that hard and great work and then have him hold you back with HIS issues. people can't differentiate. this shit will affect XC no matter how well you explain. and you explain really well. but do you wanna do this hundreds times over the coming weeks?
It actually reflects good for you guys to stand by him for now but he really needs to start to deliver, and not in some weeks. KNOW.
XCurrency is the best project in crypto, You guys are developing some great relationships with other coin projects atm. Perhaps its time to reevaluate this one.
Jasin if you read this, Show up for fucks sake!!! These guys don't deserve that shit they have to go through because of YOU.
Jasin has not been present of late for personal reasons concerning his family, which of course I will not disclose further. It would not be fair to expect him to show up now, and I'm happy to work on this in his absence. I agree completely that this mess should be cleared up asap. So henceforth, whenever someone connects XC to Jasin, can you all repeat my previous post? If you want to be brief, he's not an official member of the team. Enough said. |
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I think that the XC team could just make an unambiguous statement that Jasinlee is not part of the XC team. Then if someone has an issue with Jasinlee the answer can be that Jasinleee is not part of the XC team.
At the moment the message I am getting is..."jasinleee is not part of the team...but he kindof is....but not really ...but he sortof is...but it's not official...but he is not...but he sortof is..."
As someone else said...it should not be the XC teams job to defend Jasinlee over something that has nothing to do with XC. Particularly if Jasinleee is not even part of the XC team.
I don't know how much more official it has to be... http://xc-official.com/the-xc-team/Do you see Jasin on there? No? Then he's not part of the "team".... Unfortunately, when this issue arose again, the XC team started defending Jasinlee and saying that they have discussions with him and that he is not involved in an "official" way. What should have been said is that he is not part of the team, end of story.Man, I've told you repeatedly (i.e. at least three times) in the other thread what Jasin's role is, which is that he is officially not an XC team member, as the website states. What more could you want? Secondly it is not as simple as just saying that he is not part of the team. Because Jasin was part of the team he remains associated with XC in people's minds. And fudsters, as you can see, exploit this maximally. Furthermore we are obliged, on ethical grounds, to let investors know that we are in touch with Jasin regularly and thus have not simply excommunicated him. His withdrawal from the XC team does not constitute any withdrawal of faith in him on our part. Finally it would be equally unethical - a betrayal of him - to not voice our confidence in Jasin's integrity and strongly object to unsubstantiated claims that he is a scammer. We have every expectation that he will sort out his ASIC woes and not just disappear. I've said this to you several times. How is it that you are not satisfied? |
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Sorry its 3am here, I should have mentioned that you need to explain proof. Also proof of order is nearly always vital in these type of threads.
While I believe I understand what you are saying - that I need more "proof". Proof is in the eye of the beholder. It isn't really up to me or the XC team to decide how much proof is needed. However. Promising to deliver a product in June, then July, then August. Then October. Then refusing to provide any tangible proof that the product (ASIC) was ever worked on. Then removing the ability to login to a website that has the only ledger or proof of original orders and turning it into a sales pitch for XC/Cachecoin. And then going AWOL from the project entirely. I would argue is plenty of proof for any non biased person. I understand that it is XC's stance that this is not proof enough. But I'm afraid in this we will have to disagree. You're now repeating yourself. I won't do the same. Instead, here's a link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770801.msg8693958#msg8693958 |
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