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1381  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 07:20:47 PM
if you read those comments.... djeez... that "george ramen" dude is really Fudding that article and throwing falsely accusations @ team.
synechist countered beautifully  Cheesy

I love the part where a guy from the Internet of Coins asks George to leave. Ha ha. Perfect.
1382  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 06:34:16 PM
Honestly it's nice to see all this guys coins get distributed among many supporters instead of sitting in some dude's wallet waiting to manipulate everyone.

+1.

1383  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 06:19:39 PM
Also, I didn't know XC had it'xs own Wikipedia page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XCurrency


Nice! Hey everyone, why not chip in? - the entry needs a lot of filling out, and if I do it I'd have a conflict of interest.

You can use XC's press releases. They're all linked in the PDF version of the OP on page 1 of this thread.
1384  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 05:37:13 PM
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It scares me to see people saying that this is a "buying opportunity."  I have seen that in many investments in the past and it only serves to pacify as the price continues to decline.

I followed vertcoin from $1.10 down to $.30 before selling & was happy I did when it hit $.04.

It's all perspective.  Those early to the party have no risk and aren't stuck (like you).  They can afford to sell at a profit or get out at break even.  

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I think that no-one here considers the price to be realistic at present. This, to me, suggests that there'll be a lot of resistance to the price dropping much further - and probably only in wild idiotic single dumps like just now.

Those who have already purchased at a higher price naturally think the price being lower than what they valued it at is too low.

The problem is - those making the market decisions in a bear market are potential buyers (vs a bull in which sellers do).  These people view things different than hodlers do.  People who view XC as undervalued now probably ran out of buying ammunition back when they thought it was a fairly discounted. 

While the blocknet & supernet are interesting ideas from a theoretical standpoint crypto gets so little use that exchanging between coins to use a certain coins feature is almost unheard of.  If I do druge deals, dipping in and out of any altcoin is going to cause massive massive slippage (like 20 - 50% of a $100K deal).  So the anon feature is pretty much useless without volume.

It's a bit like building an empty city.  People using altcoins are not using them for their features - but speculating on their future.  So to make it possible to use all altcoin features from a single integrated wallet for people who are all betting on their individual coins just doesn't process with me as something that will be a gamechanger.



No, slippage will be no problem at all when the fees are micropayments.

1385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 05:24:14 PM
BlockNet is still a concept and is an other 2-3 months + down the road isn't it ?



Yes it is (though the XBridge code is part-completed).

ITO on 29 October.

10% off the share price when you buy with XC.

1386  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 05:23:11 PM
Figure it out guys...its not pure manipulation. Investors are confused about the direction xc is taking and they're selling off their coins. I'm not trying to be a naysayer but somebody has to tell it like it is. If you think its cheap buy more.

I doubt it. We're releasing news today explaining how massively beneficial the Blocknet will be.

Also anyone who's looked at this forum over the past 5 days will have learned the value of the Blocknet already.

Thing is this seems to happen every time before there is news.. It could be an investor anticipating bad news each time, but it doesnt make sense.

You're right: it doesn't make sense in terms of news. It's an oppressor.


Yeah but the movement down was never that hard. We are now at the june price level.

I doubt this is only manipulation and as it seems not everyone sees blocknet as something good because otherwise no one would sell that much coins right now

People know we're releasing news on the Blocknet later today. It's completely illogical to sell before that when we're stated that it'll clarify how awesome the Blocknet will be for XC.



The BlockNet is so far off in the future that I'm not sure everyone considers discussions about it "news".  More importantly, the team should cover XCurrency's first feature that has been somewhat delivered, XChat.  Report on the progress of XChat and set some realistic short term goals that the community can count on.

Users have expressed these opinions here before.  Perhaps they think you aren't listening so they are selling.

Example...

Idea or concept:
In the future there will be flying cars and they will be AWESOME!  We are going to build highways in the sky and everyone will want a flying car!

Delivering news:
Here is a flying car you can hold in your hand or a piece of that car which has already been manufactured.  You can see it, touch it, and potentially use it on our test highway.  We have taken an idea or concept and turned it into a reality.  Proof of existence.

Ursay I get what you're saying and I think you're right to an extent: people love real, completed things.

XChat received much hype when we released it (without group chat) and it worked flawlessly.

We'll do so again very soon when we release XC Mobile.

1387  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 05:21:22 PM
Figure it out guys...its not pure manipulation. Investors are confused about the direction xc is taking and they're selling off their coins. I'm not trying to be a naysayer but somebody has to tell it like it is. If you think its cheap buy more.

I doubt it. We're releasing news today explaining how massively beneficial the Blocknet will be.

Also anyone who's looked at this forum over the past 5 days will have learned the value of the Blocknet already.

Thing is this seems to happen every time before there is news.. It could be an investor anticipating bad news each time, but it doesnt make sense.

You're right: it doesn't make sense in terms of news. It's an oppressor.


Yeah but the movement down was never that hard. We are now at the june price level.

I doubt this is only manipulation and as it seems not everyone sees blocknet as something good because otherwise no one would sell that much coins right now

People know we're releasing news on the Blocknet later today. It's completely illogical to sell before that when we're stated that it'll clarify how awesome the Blocknet will be for XC.



yes its illogical but someone are selling.. if you are saying that we will see how awesome Blocknet will be for XC so we would have to see nice pump after news today Smiley but if the price will stay at 100k so i dont know :/

Heh. The thing to do now is to buy. Prices are crazy low and someone's selling idiotically.


cheap is relative, if the one(s) selling own more coins (which is very likely) the current price could also be high compared to the price in a few hours/days

would be nice to have a time machine Wink

Heh. Time travel is always the best trading strategy. :-)

I think that no-one here considers the price to be realistic at present. This, to me, suggests that there'll be a lot of resistance to the price dropping much further - and probably only in wild idiotic single dumps like just now.

So the thing to do is declare the price irrational - and declare it with your buy orders.
1388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 05:05:47 PM
Figure it out guys...its not pure manipulation. Investors are confused about the direction xc is taking and they're selling off their coins. I'm not trying to be a naysayer but somebody has to tell it like it is. If you think its cheap buy more.

I doubt it. We're releasing news today explaining how massively beneficial the Blocknet will be.

Also anyone who's looked at this forum over the past 5 days will have learned the value of the Blocknet already.

Thing is this seems to happen every time before there is news.. It could be an investor anticipating bad news each time, but it doesnt make sense.

You're right: it doesn't make sense in terms of news. It's an oppressor.


Yeah but the movement down was never that hard. We are now at the june price level.

I doubt this is only manipulation and as it seems not everyone sees blocknet as something good because otherwise no one would sell that much coins right now

People know we're releasing news on the Blocknet later today. It's completely illogical to sell before that when we're stated that it'll clarify how awesome the Blocknet will be for XC.



yes its illogical but someone are selling.. if you are saying that we will see how awesome Blocknet will be for XC so we would have to see nice pump after news today Smiley but if the price will stay at 100k so i dont know :/

Heh. The thing to do now is to buy. Prices are crazy low and someone's selling idiotically.
1389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 04:56:27 PM
Figure it out guys...its not pure manipulation. Investors are confused about the direction xc is taking and they're selling off their coins. I'm not trying to be a naysayer but somebody has to tell it like it is. If you think its cheap buy more.

I doubt it. We're releasing news today explaining how massively beneficial the Blocknet will be.

Also anyone who's looked at this forum over the past 5 days will have learned the value of the Blocknet already.

Thing is this seems to happen every time before there is news.. It could be an investor anticipating bad news each time, but it doesnt make sense.

You're right: it doesn't make sense in terms of news. It's an oppressor.


Yeah but the movement down was never that hard. We are now at the june price level.

I doubt this is only manipulation and as it seems not everyone sees blocknet as something good because otherwise no one would sell that much coins right now

People know we're releasing news on the Blocknet later today. It's completely illogical to sell before that when we're stated that it'll clarify how awesome the Blocknet will be for XC.

1390  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 04:45:15 PM
Figure it out guys...its not pure manipulation. Investors are confused about the direction xc is taking and they're selling off their coins. I'm not trying to be a naysayer but somebody has to tell it like it is. If you think its cheap buy more.

I doubt it. We're releasing news today explaining how massively beneficial the Blocknet will be.

Also anyone who's looked at this forum over the past 5 days will have learned the value of the Blocknet already.

Thing is this seems to happen every time before there is news.. It could be an investor anticipating bad news each time, but it doesnt make sense.

You're right: it doesn't make sense in terms of news. It's an oppressor.
1391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 12:28:43 PM
@synechist. I send you a message on Xchat with the new Mac wallet. Did you receive it?

Nope. When did you send it? Just started my app now.

Try sending again, just in case.

The Mac wallet is a test build, so expect bugs...
Just send it again. i know its a testbuild (hence the testing  Wink)

Alas, nothing...

Try restarting. That can help sometimes.

1392  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 11:58:40 AM
@synechist. I send you a message on Xchat with the new Mac wallet. Did you receive it?

Nope. When did you send it? Just started my app now.

Try sending again, just in case.

The Mac wallet is a test build, so expect bugs...
1393  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 11:51:51 AM

Is the Company Teka is working with Trash company? the same that made the First website? Why was the main website so rushed? and not updated for so long?

Thank you

No it's a different company. They specialise in UIs.

The website was rushed because Thrash had to do an enormous amount of work for us before Rev 2 launched. It has not been updated because Thrash's company has been overloaded with other commitments. It not been ideal.


Ok thank you. Who is this company? any links?

Heh. Ask Teka if he's prepared to share any info on that. ;-)



Why? is it Teka 's company? and why do I have to ask Teka about mobile release and the Company? Do you guys not communicate anymore? what's up with the secret games?

It's his responsibility. What purpose would I serve by treading on his toes?

We work together. A big part of working together is respecting each other's roles.


Sorry I don't get this. I was thinking you were the PR guy about everything relathing to XC. If I needed to ask about further development of XC feature I always asked you not directly to Dan.

Anyway hope this New UI will come up soon as for what I see and what Dan said the mobile app is ready and waiting for the UI to be finished. Im sure Teka will be on top of it and release it. hope I will not need to wait for him to be back from his one week holiday.

Looking forward for the blocknet details. cheers.



If Teka wasn't also the Community Manager then I'd have simply said "no, no news about XC Mobile."

But since he's the Community Manager, he's one of the people you can contact on this thread and expect an answer from.



Teka's not on holiday. He's working this week.

His holiday is, I think, next week, when he plans to start work on the new website.

1394  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 11:32:34 AM

Is the Company Teka is working with Trash company? the same that made the First website? Why was the main website so rushed? and not updated for so long?

Thank you

No it's a different company. They specialise in UIs.

The website was rushed because Thrash had to do an enormous amount of work for us before Rev 2 launched. It has not been updated because Thrash's company has been overloaded with other commitments. It not been ideal.


Ok thank you. Who is this company? any links?

Heh. Ask Teka if he's prepared to share any info on that. ;-)



Why? is it Teka 's company? and why do I have to ask Teka about mobile release and the Company? Do you guys not communicate anymore? what's up with the secret games?

It's his responsibility. What purpose would I serve by treading on his toes?

We work together. A big part of working together is respecting each other's roles.
1395  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 11:16:31 AM

Is the Company Teka is working with Trash company? the same that made the First website? Why was the main website so rushed? and not updated for so long?

Thank you

No it's a different company. They specialise in UIs.

The website was rushed because Thrash had to do an enormous amount of work for us before Rev 2 launched. It has not been updated because Thrash's company has been overloaded with other commitments. It not been ideal.


Ok thank you. Who is this company? any links?

Heh. Ask Teka if he's prepared to share any info on that. ;-)

1396  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 11:13:11 AM
I am more concerned about the UI and the mobile wallet release then the ITO for the blocknet, as for now. Can we expect to have news about this today also?

Few Questions:

- Is Teka the only one working on the UI. I mean getting the thing done not consultation work.

- Who is in charge on the Website redisign and if there is a a precise roadmap for it how it will look when it will be out.

- Can we Expect Rev 2.5 Fully working on release or will it be again a test release followed by others tested by the community. REV 3 needs to be out fully working no tests etc really user friendly downloads new website new UI etc.. Please confirm this.

- Will the mobile wallet release that we are expecting work with anon transaction and xchat on release? will it be working with group chat also?

- will mobile wallet be able to be set up as Xmixer?

- Will it be able to stake?

Thank you.

You'll have to ask Teka about whether there'll be mobile-related news today.

However I can tell you that:
- A specialist UI company is building XC's UI. Teka is liaising with them.
- The website redesign is Teka's thing, and should begin in a week or so... not sure of the date.
- Rev 3 will be fully working. Everything before that can be expected to be a work in progress. However we want the mobile app to function pretty flawlessly when we release it for testing. UI optimisation will be the goal of the UI testing, not core tech functionality.
- The mobile app will support private transactions, XChat, and staking. I'm not sure about Xmixer functionality at this stage, but it's probably quite easy to achieve.



Is the Company Teka is working with Trash company? the same that made the First website? Why was the main website so rushed? and not updated for so long?

Thank you

No it's a different company. They specialise in UIs.

The website was rushed because Thrash had to do an enormous amount of work for us before Rev 2 launched. It has not been updated because Thrash's company has been overloaded with other commitments. It not been ideal.
1397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 11:01:46 AM
Will there be an official thread for the blocknet?

Yup. :-)
1398  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 11:01:12 AM
I am more concerned about the UI and the mobile wallet release then the ITO for the blocknet, as for now. Can we expect to have news about this today also?

Few Questions:

- Is Teka the only one working on the UI. I mean getting the thing done not consultation work.

- Who is in charge on the Website redisign and if there is a a precise roadmap for it how it will look when it will be out.

- Can we Expect Rev 2.5 Fully working on release or will it be again a test release followed by others tested by the community. REV 3 needs to be out fully working no tests etc really user friendly downloads new website new UI etc.. Please confirm this.

- Will the mobile wallet release that we are expecting work with anon transaction and xchat on release? will it be working with group chat also?

- will mobile wallet be able to be set up as Xmixer?

- Will it be able to stake?

Thank you.

You'll have to ask Teka about whether there'll be mobile-related news today.

However I can tell you that:
- A specialist UI company is building XC's UI. Teka is liaising with them.
- The website redesign is Teka's thing, and should begin in a week or so... not sure of the date.
- Rev 3 will be fully working. Everything before that can be expected to be a work in progress. However we want the mobile app to function pretty flawlessly when we release it for testing. UI optimisation will be the goal of the UI testing, not core tech functionality.
- The mobile app will support private transactions, XChat, and staking. I'm not sure about Xmixer functionality at this stage, but it's probably quite easy to achieve.

1399  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 10:49:08 AM
Hi all Thanks to jibble I have now a Oneplus One Invite to give away but it will expire the next 24 Hours..

Anyone looking for a new phone?

Hey hey. What do they cost?

I want to test XChat Mobile but I use Windows Phone for real life.

in UK 269 Pounds for the 64 GB version 3 gb ram 5.5 Full Hd display snapdragon 801

http://oneplus.net/uk/one

Thanks. Hmm... very nice hardware at a good price.



On the other hand you can get a Lumia 930 for slightly less, and it's a way better phone.
1400  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos on: October 20, 2014, 09:59:58 AM
Hi all Thanks to jibble I have now a Oneplus One Invite to give away but it will expire the next 24 Hours..

Anyone looking for a new phone?

Hey hey. What do they cost?

I want to test XChat Mobile but I use Windows Phone for real life.

in UK 269 Pounds for the 64 GB version 3 gb ram 5.5 Full Hd display snapdragon 801

http://oneplus.net/uk/one

Thanks. Hmm... very nice hardware at a good price.

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