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2181  Economy / Reputation / Re: My Sig Spammers list and banned from Campaigns list on: November 29, 2016, 12:24:35 AM
And I have accepted that in front of you all. But what now? Hey why I am not banned?
Concerning level of inactivity on the ranks of global moderators and higher.

And you are here to pick candidates not to select them on the basis of elegibility. What if I would have come entirely differently ? If you can not tell the reason, you are not doing your job correctly.
I don't owe you an explanation why I don't want you to be part of my campaign. It's not my job to give that explanation either.
Selecting participants, making sure they post constructively, counting their posts, making the payments, those are my areas of operation.
No part of my job says I need to stand and defend my decisions. They are mine to make and yours to accept.

Standing over ? Lol, like all other campaign managers were fool and you are the only.
I'm not talking about campaign rules, I'm talking about forum rules, which you are in open violation of.
What is this, if not a clear sign that you think you are not bound by the rules and can act like you want to?

Hired campaign managers work bad than owners.
It's "worse". If you want to criticize my work, feel free to do so. I can take it. But don't hold your breath for me giving a shit about your opinion. I won't.
2182  Economy / Reputation / Re: My Sig Spammers list and banned from Campaigns list on: November 29, 2016, 12:02:49 AM
Hey boy now listen
Way to start a discussion, juvenile attempts at belittling the other party. How nice.

And for that jail stuff, yes everything is possible. Make a plastic surgery, change your name and welcome to the earth.
I think you're running a bit to deep into that rough comparison.

Hope this time the society will not judge you instantly. The problem with you guys is that you judge people too early. Of course my several accounts have been banned and the only reason was the quality of posts.
You have been banned several times. Independently. With different accounts. That is not being judged instantly. You've shown again and again the same habits.

Now I am still alive due to the fact that I add value to this forum.
You are "still alive" because nobody bothered to look into you. I did. I found your past. At that second, you fell back and since you're posting like you did back then.

Being a Sr. Member I do not feel bossy, that is what people should understand. Yes what you have done is a trust abuse. Trust system has only been made to protect people from scamming.
You're deceitful, you've shown yourself to believe standing over the rules, you have obvious troubles judging a situation. All reasons for which I do not trust you.
2183  Economy / Services / Re: Let's Think About the Future | Signature Campaign | (All Ranks Welcome) on: November 28, 2016, 11:25:09 PM
Payments for the last week have been sent (79d6d42b678f4af64f12dacaa24fc73d36a322c0d0dd69524938cf1fae2bb580).
2184  Other / New forum software / Re: New forums? on: November 28, 2016, 11:12:43 PM
I usually like to embrace change, but seriously change for change sake is just crap
This isn't. The current forum is running on a pretty old version of SMF (though heavily customized and modified).
The new forum software is supposed to bring new features for both, users and moderators. It should ease up a thing or two.
Especially since it's custom built and it can be adjusted to the needs of the forum.

dont like the look of the beta site at all
I would guess design is a point that comes a little later in the developing processs.
From what I've heard, there will be several "skins" available and the current design isn't final yet, either.
Besides that, looks aren't everything.
2185  Other / New forum software / Re: New forums? on: November 28, 2016, 10:38:57 PM
Hosted on AMAZON AWS
As the forum is right now aswell.

Looks like they are using epochtalk. That's pretty new stuff built on modern technologies. Will be prone to bugs and hacks for sure.
https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk
Not only new, but also custom made for this forum specifically. We could argue about the "new" part though, given how long there's being worked on already.

Lots can be improved. I'll try to hack the shit out of it on my free time to help harden it.
That would be called beta testing Smiley
Have fun.
2186  Other / Meta / Re: [SMAS] Signature Managers against Spam (light version) on: November 28, 2016, 10:26:45 PM
If you guys are working for your lists to be adopted by everyone (you seem to be going for this) then i dont think its smart for a small group of like minded individuals to act as judge, jury and executioner.
Enlarginig the group didn't work out previously, hence the smaller attempt this time.

we never know what price you get from manage a signature campaign if this still goes all of you get many an advantage from it.
Actually, it's easy to find out (for me at least). How is that related to who I ban for spamming?

For transparent we need moderator take a part or you can send to them the ban list.
This is independent from forum moderation and should stay this way. We're an effort started from signature campaign managers.

we never know what price you get from manage a signature campaign if this still goes all of you get many an advantage from it.
We spend additional, unpaid time on this. Running a lazy ass, half-managed campaign would be more easy and faster.
This doesn't get you an advantage (if all, you get a big group of haters, don't believe it? Read the thread and related threads).
2187  Other / Meta / Re: [SMAS] Signature Managers against Spam (light version) on: November 28, 2016, 10:26:23 AM
Are the lists on the first two posts the definitive SMAS blacklists? Is there a place where I can just retrieve a text file with just the names of all of the people on the SMAS blacklist? I am planning on including an SMAS blacklist indicator for my account pricer.
Is the list in the second post alright for that purpose, or do you need it in another format?
I'm planning to keep the second post (first reply) as it is right now, a plain list of names/accounts, nothing more.
All further information has been moved into OP and will stay there.



I think this thread is enough for all campaign manager give an information and specify who will stay on ban list. doesn't need to give feedback only for against SMAS because as we know trust feedback it for build reputation.
I (aswell as Lauda and yahoo) never voiced any intentions to get active with trust feedbacks in the matter of SMAS.
If you read my posts and understand that I am arguing against those "concerns" brought up by cjm, you would realize your post is hence moot.
2188  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Campaign Ettiquette(Signature, twitter, facebook, or any other type) on: November 28, 2016, 08:04:10 AM
I already see the critics flying in "you're being one-sided, this is only what managers expect" or "of course you think like that, you are a manager yourself", blablabla, the usual stuff.
Having read through it, I agree with most, if not all, of the points being brought up. Thanks for taking the time and collecting all of them in a single post.
Seeing as Lauda and I both think in a similar way, this could also be considered #SMAS-approved.
(We wanted to do something roughly like this in the old smas, IIRC.)
2189  Economy / Services / Re: Lutpin | Advertising Campaign Management [Looking for work] on: November 28, 2016, 07:41:13 AM
Congratulations, Sir Lutpin. It is true, he is a great manager and was reputed member of Bitcointalk family from the time I joined.
Thanks Smiley

I have a question in mind
There's a lot of potential for discussion in the two short questions you've posted.
Let me try to give a brief (or not so brief, upon rereading my draft) answer to each, without getting too far into details and examples (I still got a little, sorry),
but still one that should give you sufficient information (not trying to textwall this thread).

some of the coins, where you worked hard as a campaign manager, are dead or forgotten. Was your effort useless for them?
When a project fails, there are several possible reasons for it. In the rarest cases, one thing is solely responsible.

I always try to set up the best possible campaign, or what I (based on my experience) think to be the best possible campaign.
In many cases, that works out pretty good, for example with CryptoGames, we're running since June 2015 now and when we ran into problems, we found a way to adjust the campaign. If the effort would have been useless, that campaign would have been cancled a long time ago.

A few other examples would be OneHash and HeatLedger, both terminated campaigns of mine, but also both successful projects (last I checked).
HeatLedger simply had served it's time, the ICO was over and there were little resons to continue a big budget campaign for the coin. We had created a lot of awareness for the ICO though (still doing alright: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/heat-ledger/).
OneHash was from the beginning designed to be a short, introductory campaign, and when we completed that time, the campaign had been "completed". Today, the site is doing a lot better than before they ran the campaign.

But I guess the campaigns you're after are none of those, you speak of failed coins, so it probably is either Opair or SocialKapital (no offense to the guys involved with those projects).
Both campaigns went alright, at least from my pov, however, with both projects there have been some unrelated problems, things I couldn't influence, besides the task of advertising which I was a part of.
I'm not really keen on discussing those problems in this thread (it's not directly related to the campaigns), but there were certainly other reasons for the projects standing where they are today.
Maybe I'm partly to blame aswell, can't rule it out, but be sure I did the best I could, as I always try to do.

Even though those projects might be considered "failed" by some, I wouldn't call my efforts useless. I ran a nice campaign with each of them and the participants were quite happy about that. In the end, I can't guarantee a projects success via an advertising campaign alone, but if we're talking about the right project, I can certainly help it being successful by running a campaign with them.

Again, what do you do if a campaign manager refuses to pay you the fees for the members every week?
A decent amount of my campaigns are escrowed by myself (currently, 3 of 6 are). I usually prefer to run campaigns in this way, as it not only ensures payments, it also eases up the process for both me and the advertiser. Hence my initial suggestion is always to escrow funds with me (or another escrow of their choise).
Some advertisers don't want to do this or can't. The campaigns I run without escrowed funds currently are CryptoGames/CryptoNews and BetKing.
For CG/CN, I've been working together with them for over a year now, I have no doubt they take the campaigns as serious as I am and they will make payments to the point, as they have done in the last 18 months.
BetKing currently is in control of over 6000BTC of users funds invested in their bankroll, I'm not worrying about them misjudging their responsibility for payments either.

That being said, in the end, users know the risk of joining an unescrowed campaign. In case of any payment disputes (/missing funds/missing advertisers/...), I'm going to do my best to make sure everyone gets what they are owed (like I did with opair, if you want to catch up on that), but I can't guarantee it. I would love to, but I can not. There stays a little risk.
So far, I never had to face this situation. I'm pretty sure I won't have to in the future, but never say never (right?).



I hope that answers your questions sufficiently.
2190  Economy / Reputation / Re: My Sig Spammers list and banned from Campaigns list on: November 28, 2016, 07:10:53 AM
New ban list 11/28/16
Is OP up to date including every recent addition?
(If so, I can update SMAS with it)

I wish you would have never come in my life, my old campaign manager was so good. It all started from you .
Stop blaming others for your mistakes. And if you want to blame somebody, go ahead and blame me.



Well I have already done it.
Then please leave it there.
2191  Other / Meta / Re: How is this possible? on: November 28, 2016, 04:06:26 AM
Ok so what exactly is potential activity, what do you do to get potential activity.
Potential activity is the amount of activity you can earn right now (without any further activity periods).
Your potential activity equals to the amount of activity periods you have posted in times 14 (In your case, that would be 126, based on 14 times 9).

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The activity number is determined in this way:
potential activity = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration
activity = min(potential activity * 14, posts)
(Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=582736.0; Adjusted time to potential activity.)
2192  Other / Meta / Re: How is this possible? on: November 28, 2016, 03:53:08 AM
You had potential activity. At 99 posts and 99 activity, your potential activity was 116.
Now you start posting in a new activity period, your potential activity goes up to 126.
You will continue to earn activity until you reached your potential (126 posts/activity).

I'm not sure if I am confused how activity works or if this is unusual.
This is perfectly fine, your understanding of the activity system is just lacking some details.

EDIT: Updated with correct potential activity numbers.
https://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=gukcoq3o

provided thatvyou make sufficient posts, you should have 126 activity and will become a full member once you have 120 posts.  
Activity can't be greater than the post number (unlike potential activity, that can).
You either meant 120 activity and posts (which would make you full member) or 126 activity and posts (which is their current potential).
2193  Other / Meta / Re: [Help] Can't changed my avatar on: November 28, 2016, 02:13:08 AM
Any suggestions?
It takes some time for the avatar to update. For what it's worth, I already do see your new one.
Suggestion? Wait. Or clear your cache.



When you change/update your avatar, it should change in the upper left corner after exactly one 'page click'
Didn't happen for me, and seeing as you changed your avatar recently aswell, you can probably tell if it works that way for you.
2194  Economy / Reputation / Re: LENDERS BEWARE OF - LAUDA - HE IS RED TAGGING LOAN COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS on: November 28, 2016, 12:18:31 AM
June & February of 2015, over a year ago, Good Job finding that!!  How did you determine he was accepted into the signature campaign?  That is right you did not.
So you're telling me the user wasn't? And they still paid him for the fun of it?
eceff766d3e349adce9e62d1bc0be771980ef9b7479cce34d198043aefe171d8

Username: feryjhie
Bitcoin Address: 1FERyQMm4aPnmbzEmd3xb4FZnQyGkkYv4b
Member Type: sr member
Date Joined: 8 June
Confirmed to both but please change your Personal Text immediately. Thank you all for joining!

Public Note: CloudThink.IO Signature Campaign Payout - June 15
2195  Other / Meta / Re: [SMAS] Signature Managers against Spam (light version) on: November 27, 2016, 11:56:00 PM
I don't care.  Create a category to have me blacklisted.
Would be pointless, as you're in one of the campaigns that clearly won't participate in any coordinated anti-spam effort.

Where does it end and what mechanisms might there be put in place to prevent a potential abuse of the reputation system by means of collusion?
Again, how are we using trust feedbacks in the matter of SMAS? I just don't see where DT positions could play a role here, when we don't even leave feedbacks related to SMAS.

I agree that low quality posters clutter the forum....but potential reputation abuse has an even more volatile effect on the community. 
How are we abusing our "reputation" with this? We're doing what we are allowed to do by the responsibilities given to us from advertisers upon hiring us.

I'm just voicing some concerns.....that's all.
Concerns that have been addressed in the past (as Lauda said, read the thread) or that don't hold up when thinking 5 minutes about them.
2196  Economy / Services / Re: [BitBlender] Signature Campaign - Seniors and up (CFNP) on: November 27, 2016, 11:40:33 PM
Thanks for another week of this signature campaign, looks like there's just enough funds for three more weeks if none are added.
We've had some more funds coming in meanwhile, so we're pretty good covered for the rest of the year.



Payments for the last round have been sent (9374fcdf0169a3dd2b54e1c3e7b2344f8390172c292d9f46b112b127af256319).




Looks like I had some posts that weren't accepted, I assume those were in technical support?
One of your posts was a tad bit short of our minimum length.
2197  Other / Meta / Re: [SMAS] Signature Managers against Spam (light version) on: November 27, 2016, 10:15:40 PM
but if each manager has the ability to reduce spam in their campaigns on an individual bases, what is the intent of the organization?
As of OP:
Who and what are you?
We're a community effort started by signature campaign managers. Initially, the idea came from yahoo62278.
We want to connect accross different campaigns and fight spam on this forum together. We're looking for better communication and better organisation in this matter.

Is it to gain the ability to eliminate "rogue" campaign managers, questionable services, or competitive markets?
When did SMAS go against non-participating managers? When did we attack services with campaings not managed by SMAS for the sake of gaining an advantage?
There are managers adopting to the SMAS lists who aren't a part of the current team (notaek for example uses the lists IIRC).

And, three members who share levels of default trust do have a collusive power to implement their will via "mob rules" because their voices are more esteemed by default and the "band wagoning" nature of the trust rating system.
yahoo isn't in any DT relation (and further in none to me), neither was Lauda at the point we re-activated this.
Further, the feedback system is independent from that, we're currently not using trust feedbacks in the act of SMAS.

It goes back to my original concern; What is the function of this organization: is it to reduce spam by eliminating "rogue" campaigns, or to eliminate "rogue" campaigns by disenfranchising competitive services?
Neither, we eliminate posters with low quality from our campaigns, taking their incentives to continue spamming the forum (which is currently one of it's biggest problem), the more coverage we have, the more effective we can do that and the better the reading experience for genuine forum users will become once again.
Things are still far from being good, but I think SMAS is already showing a little impact and clearly showed it's potential by now.



Does SMAS have an official name for users like him?
Part-time spammer?!
2198  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] Casascius 2013 Brass 1 BTC - Graded at MS68 - Start at Face Value! on: November 27, 2016, 02:43:28 AM
1BTC.
2199  Economy / Services / Re: [Crypto-News.net] ★ Signature Campaign ★ | Senior - Legendary [CFNP] on: November 27, 2016, 12:33:21 AM
Username: devthedev
(Added personal text as well)
Enrolled (you'll earn the bonus for that one).

I will change my Signature and Avatar once accepted
Set your things up.



We're filled with that.
2200  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★Crypto-Games.net ★ 9 coins ★ 5 games ★ Since 2014 ★ 2.4 BTC Jackpot ★ Invest on: November 26, 2016, 10:45:37 PM
It's actually not... because the next part is "if you wonder what it means, it's something quite atrocious."
Might wanna recheck your sources there. it's not "if you wonder what it means" but "even though the sound of it is something quite atrocious".
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The roots of the word have been defined as follows: super- "above", cali- "beauty", fragilistic- "delicate", expiali- "to atone", and -docious "educable", with the sum of these parts signifying roughly "Atoning for educability through delicate beauty."
Source: Wikipedia.



I guess that was indeed meant as a compliment and we're overinterpreting a simple pop-culture reference here Smiley
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