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221  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Internet Café: Considering accepting Bitcoins. on: January 28, 2012, 11:44:55 PM
Most of the internet cafe's in my city are all gone it's people sitting in cafe's using their laptops now.
There's two gaming places left run by Koreans and basically the entire customer base is 16-25yr old Koreans on student visas so unless there's a bunch of Korean students in your neighborhood just open a regular cafe and do things like rent-a-laptop where you give them one running a VM snapshot so whatever malware they install is gone after you reboot, and sell bitcoins for cash over the counter.

Sure the UK has some sort of small business startup loans you can get. Here you just apply with a general biz plan for a cafe and 99.99% of time it's granted along with funding as long as you aren't a criminal or have extreme terrible credit. Some uber hipsters just opened a new cafe across from my apartment selling pear, brie, and proscuitto baguettes and the place is already packed everyday (with other hipsters)
I'm 19 and the UK isn't doing very well financially, so I wouldn't imagine anyone would touch my business idea.

This is what 'Angel Investors' are for. Every city typically has an angel investor night where you go present your scheme and look for funding to a bunch of investors. Sadly they are almost always looking for some closed source technology they can license and charge fees for but doens't mean your cafe idea wouldn't get any funding especially if you promoted the bitcoin idea (if it's legal for you to sell bitcoins for cash.. i don't see why not if you claim they are a commodity and don't advertise it as another currency)

222  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thinking about Bitcoin and anonymous voting systems... on: January 28, 2012, 02:41:23 AM
Everytime the feeble technocrats in my government tries to implement some sort of bullshit electronic voting method every university combines forces to attack it to prevent this from ever happening. It's just too easy to defraud or sabotage, no matter what electronic system you invent.

The good old anonymous hand ballots that can be physically recounted if there is a problem is the only sane solution and has held my country together for hundreds of years with this method. Mess with it and you risk reigniting separatist terrorism and possibly revolution if the vote is not seen as legitimate.

Even worse foreign countries could manipulate a digital method, or worse yet manipulate it then point the direction at another country starting some sort of fued/war. No thanks

223  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 1000 BTC gold bar on: January 28, 2012, 02:26:05 AM
Can the guy return the bar back to you for a reload
224  Economy / Gambling / Re: OFFICIAL | StrikeSapphire Casino & Poker Room | Reps & Announcements. on: January 28, 2012, 02:06:21 AM
Do you guy's do a referral system? Couldn't find any info on the site.


225  Economy / Gambling / Re: AnoniBet Sportsbook on: January 28, 2012, 01:06:34 AM
I like the design and functionality of AnoniBet better that BTCSportsBet as you don't have to log in just to see odds of games, something important BTCSportsBet should change. SportsBet should also stop using hushmail like, today. It's completely useless and proven to be backdoored (they admitted this everywhere). Hushmail seizes accounts on a whim as well.

If you want encryption use privacybox.de and make your own custom template for it to put on your site for a contact box, or sign up to countermail.com or something like that instead if you must have cloud encryption.

That said weird AnoniBet has withdraw fees .. ? Aren't they already making money on the betting.. maybe it's a ploy so you gamble whatever you have left away instead of taking the fee hit? Tongue

What I want to know does either of these sportsbooks do refferals/affiliate payouts. Why? Because I could make a dozen live feed sites and link them to it so anybody watching can bet at the same time.





226  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Internet Café: Considering accepting Bitcoins. on: January 28, 2012, 12:38:21 AM
Most of the internet cafe's in my city are all gone it's people sitting in cafe's using their laptops now.
There's two gaming places left run by Koreans and basically the entire customer base is 16-25yr old Koreans on student visas so unless there's a bunch of Korean students in your neighborhood just open a regular cafe and do things like rent-a-laptop where you give them one running a VM snapshot so whatever malware they install is gone after you reboot, and sell bitcoins for cash over the counter.

Sure the UK has some sort of small business startup loans you can get. Here you just apply with a general biz plan for a cafe and 99.99% of time it's granted along with funding as long as you aren't a criminal or have extreme terrible credit. Some uber hipsters just opened a new cafe across from my apartment selling pear, brie, and proscuitto baguettes and the place is already packed everyday (with other hipsters)
227  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How can i pay to other people credit/card or bank like obopay.com ?? on: January 28, 2012, 12:25:31 AM
Exchangers do this, http://technocashier.com/ has a pay any Visa/MC service no idea what it costs. Maybe if you did it all the time could get a cheap rate. Takes 5-7 days.

Or sign up to some Visa payment gateway, depends on how many transfers per day you're making
http://www.nxsystemsinc.com/03_payanycard.html

Could also sell bitcoins to Liqpay, then send it another card. That person then signs up to liqpay to claim the funds but again takes 5-7 days and doesn't work with non USD/EUR/UAH cards.

Could use eCoin.cc to transfer them internally and they withdraw from their own ecoin debit card for $2

I used ICICI bank in Canada to do this and it worked, they have US branches too
http://www.icicibank.com/Personal-Banking/onlineservice/online-services/account-to-cardFT/account-to-card-fundtransfer.html
228  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto X Change - No More Wire Costs - Deposit & Withdraw any Currency $5 Now! on: January 27, 2012, 11:41:44 PM
Can't get any solid info from the site where you accept transfers/deposits. I keep getting a redirection to bitinstant which is useless in my country. NoooOooooOoo

I always assumed the $5 fee was just your internal deposit fee didn't know that's all it cost. Great success
229  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: [ANN] Changes to AML Policies - Mt.Gox on: January 23, 2012, 12:43:14 AM
Every single bank has a reversible policy if the transaction is due to fraud, otherwise you can just phish bank accounts and transfer away with zero consequences. Google debtor SEPA payments reverse, or read up on SEPA fraud.

As for banks dropping you every old school Liberty Reserve exchanger on the talkgold forums had said this has happened to them after they started getting a lot of transfers. European banks don't like ecurrency exchangers and bitcoin is included: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=32604.msg409957#msg409957

If that polish company can manage to do it that's great, what bank are they using? Most banks will just dump you unless you start agreeing to paying SEPA fees

LR/Pecunix and their exchangers have survived for years before bitcoin was even a glint in satoshi's eye learn from their mistakes and how their model has worked over time. There's a reason you can't directly buy into LR, Pecunix or Cgold

230  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Anonymous Ads - bitcoin advertising network: place ads or get code and earn! on: January 23, 2012, 12:26:42 AM
I like the no graphics page Smiley
Now if we can convince the bitcoin sportsbook sites to reg here and pay affiliates I can seed a thousand sports streaming sites with bet now ads
231  Economy / Securities / Re: [GLBSE] Interest in a Thoroughbred Racehorse on: January 23, 2012, 12:22:49 AM
Interesting. I'm already in a race horse ownership conglomerate for hastings race track and a few US races but there's no real money in it. Came first place 3x and all money goes to upkeep of the trainers/horse/jockey payout so far. That said may buy into this anyways to kickstart a bitcoin horse owning cartel Smiley



232  Economy / Marketplace / Re: List of GLBSE Non-Active/Scam Assets Shares on: January 23, 2012, 12:19:04 AM
GLBSE 2.0 is beta testing and he claims he'll remove all the scam/questionable/dead assets when they move to the new site
233  Economy / Marketplace / Re: [ANNOUNCE] WTCR.CA - Canadian Technology Store Accepting Bitcoin on: January 23, 2012, 12:18:09 AM
Would be easier to list all prices in $CAD then upon checkout convert it to the current BTC rate using cavirtex or something. Or show both prices. Just my $0.02

Do you guy's have used 1u racks? Smiley
234  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: [ANN] Changes to AML Policies - Mt.Gox on: January 23, 2012, 12:10:21 AM
SEPA transfers can potentially be reversed. Any time you deal with reversible methods verifying identity reduces risk.

SEPA transfers potentially reversible? How did you get that idea?

I have never heard of a single SEPA transfer being reversed, and I do read a lot about financial transactions in Europe, are on many groups and forums, and I would have heard about it if it was the case.

There are no more reversible then mailing a bunch of cash in an envelope to someone by mail.

AFAIK to "reverse" a SEPA you have to sue the recipient claiming you made a mistake, get a court order, and then a debt collector to get the money from the recipients account. That's the closest to "reversing" a SEPA as you can get.

Maybe you heard about SEPA direct debit being reversible, and made wrong conclusions? Direct debit is reversible, but that's a transfer initiated by the receiver - so like MtGox pulling money from your account. A sender-initiated SEPA transfer is not reversible (without suing).

If there is some kind of fraud involved it can be reversed. Same with wire transfers the banks will seek to claw the money back and your bank will just debit -1,000 or whatever out of your account.

It's very hard to get a bank account in Europe where you can receive a lot of incoming/outgoing SEPA. Banks will drop you quickly as it costs them extra money and they don't like doing it. Maybe there's some sort of SEPA payment gateway Gox could use instead of direct payments
235  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Klooch.com Buy BTC with credit card on: January 23, 2012, 12:07:51 AM
since they signed agreements with WMZ and Ukash
Then why not have WMZ -> BTC?
or at least WMZ -> LR -> BTC

Maybe they would go for it. Webmoney is notorious in not allowing their e-currency to be exchanged with any other e-currencies. At least not directly. They seized all exchanger accounts that used to autoexchange WMZ->LR and other digital goldz.

236  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Any BTC to LE in Egypt ? on: January 22, 2012, 05:56:37 AM
Derp.. forgot EGP isn't called EGP in egypt Smiley
If you can't find anybody I've used this guy before
http://www.exchangemoneyplace.com/verified-digital-currency-exchange/2349-exchange-between-cashu-lr-wmz-ap-ep-ukash-mb.html

Just email him and ask if he'll sell you LR for cash in Cairo. Have him load an exchange account directly with it then use it to buy BTC
237  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think the value of bitcoins will ever stabalize? on: January 22, 2012, 05:40:22 AM
The PM of Malaysia in the 90s insulated his country from foreign speculation which saved them from the economic crisis of the late 90s which destabilized every country around them. When he first suggested it at Davos economic conference they nearly laughed him out of the building then after his country survived the worst regional recession they hailed him as a hero.

Lol @ #bitcoin-cabal clearly the btc secret society
238  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Feds kill Megaupload... are you buying Namecoins yet? on: January 22, 2012, 05:19:39 AM
Basically corporations like the leasing rights model where they make all their money. They lease the rights to other corporations for insanely huge fees in one lump sum and now that corp is responsible for making back the money, so they go after anybody else doing it since they're probably already operating at a loss for paying so much in fees in the first place.

For instance any US network TV show is sold to my country for exclusive network rights that they pay hundreds of millions for per year. If that company doesn't have online streaming, I'm fucked I can't watch it online anywhere unless I pirate it or ssh/proxy/vpn with a US ip, or buy a $700 box set. This is why megavideo and it's clones are so popular. Also they (usually) don't make you sit through ads before getting content, and the ads were most likely stuff people would be interested in like gambling, online gaming and pr0nz.

I suspect the bulk of megavideos users were in foreign countries trying to get access to US made content which is geoIP restricted. Content holders in the US instead of leasing out their rights to the highest bidder possible and signing 10+year contracts with them should instead have an open leasing system where absolutely anybody can stream their content and pay them monthly instead of a huge lump sum. Then Megavideo could've given half of that 700 million to the rights holders and everybody wins but no.

239  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Feds kill Megaupload... are you buying Namecoins yet? on: January 22, 2012, 04:49:58 AM
So? Apparently it was acceptable to people so it worked. I don't see how that makes my point less legitimate.



It doesn't make your point invalid, I just corrected you they didn't make all their loot selling access.
There's just too many middle men at the trough getting fed from studios, corporations and agents they can't change their model as they've all signed ridiculous huge contracts for 10+ years to each other.

240  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think the value of bitcoins will ever stabalize? on: January 22, 2012, 04:41:10 AM
As long as people can speculate and exchangers are unregulated no it won't stabilize soon.
Maybe when every coin has been mined and the bulk of coins aren't controlled by the seekrit bitcoin illuminati
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