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221  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself on: September 07, 2015, 11:43:43 PM
Not to add to the drama, but I felt it appropriate to balance out Wardricks' feedback on the OP.  Not sure if that changes how his trust appears.

"balancing out" feedback is generally a bad idea as everyone has different trust lists. Anyone who doesn't have me in their trust will see your positive feedback and potentially mistake it for a vouch from you for TSP.

I ask that you read into this issue some more and reconsider your feedback. To me it is quite clear that TSP stole BTC from TF and then tried to cover it up instead of addressing the situation. That makes him highly untrustworthy in my books and deserving of negative trust.
222  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself on: September 07, 2015, 11:31:20 PM
@Wardrick: do you wanna pick up where QS left off over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1129059.0 ?  You're inheriting quite a legacy!  I'll go ahead and change the topic title for you if you like.

No, you have publicly discussed this issue since April. Clearly you will do anything to get your negative trust removed, I won't waste my time in continuing the discussion which is just going around in circles for many months now, which is exactly what you want, a sort of "smoke-screen" so you can cover up the obvious truth.

It's not going to work, I will not argue this with you, you will have to take it up with BadBear. If I am removed from DT then there is a good chance I will leave you another feedback from my other DT account which will be much harder to get removed from DT.
223  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself on: September 07, 2015, 11:13:56 PM
It's just way too much of a coincidence imo. Like I said it stinks. **Cough - how many more alts**

I did like & really respect what QS was about but this is all too much.

I am not QS and anyone here that I have met in RL at various meetups can attest to that.
224  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself on: September 07, 2015, 11:00:01 PM


Why did you only decide to leave TSP a negative trust today then almost immediately after QS was removed from DT?
Why today after a 3 month plus break from posting?


Because I know he is a scammer, after QS was removed from DT, tspacepilot had neutral trust and so I left him feedback to make it known they are untrustworthy.
225  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself on: September 07, 2015, 10:54:59 PM
Did you got dream that today QS going to remove from Default trust so you must come and give negative feedback again him.

No I read about it on this forum.

Why did not you gave negative feedback to QS he misused his position and escrowing his sock puppet account.

You came today and read everything what is going on and decided to leave negative feedback.

It's clearly correlated this situation. There is something fishy here surely. I know you were very active on trading before but you suddenly disappeared and again came back just for this situation.

I even don't deny there is chances that may be who is using account now not first owner of this account. Because of buying/selling account.

Oh my god I didn't just show up a minute ago. This dispute between QS and tspacepilot has been going on since April, before I took a temporary break and was a catalyst in my decision to do so. I still read the forum while i was away too, you don't need to be logged in to read threads you know...
226  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself on: September 07, 2015, 10:34:04 PM
lol, you are inactive since may and you are saying it's good time to leave. You just appeared from cave to give negative feedback.

The reason I have not been so active here is because I dislike trading with shitheads like tspacepilot which it seems like this forum has become overridden with. I've moved on to other places to trade. I guess I'm going to risk my reputation here on what I know is the right thing and hope it goes well.
227  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself on: September 07, 2015, 10:26:22 PM
Funily enough, the person that just gave a negative rating to tspacepilot is only under tomatocage in default trust. What a biased rating too. Almost makes this look like a conspiracy.

Seriously TC, trim your trust list. Roll Eyes /jk you're free to do as you please    

TC has an exclusion against me, I am not in his trust list. I'm no fool and I'm not afraid to stand up when I see wrong. It's clear that turtlehurricane and tspacepilot have teamed up and attacked QS over various different things in order to get negative trust removed for things they did. at one point they even called out for others to join in and fire more accusations against him at once. They'll have to do the same thing against me to get me removed from DT.
I can't see your rating against him. Did the Bear remove you or is it my custom trust list?

I think it's your trust list. I haven't been removed from DT yet, though I know there is a chance I will be removed, I guess that will be the signal that it's a good time to leave this piece of shit forum forever.
228  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Quickseller escrowing for himself on: September 07, 2015, 10:13:39 PM
Funily enough, the person that just gave a negative rating to tspacepilot is only under tomatocage in default trust. What a biased rating too. Almost makes this look like a conspiracy.

Seriously TC, trim your trust list. Roll Eyes /jk you're free to do as you please    

TC has an exclusion against me, I am not in his trust list. I'm no fool and I'm not afraid to stand up when I see wrong. It's clear that turtlehurricane and tspacepilot have teamed up and attacked QS over various different things in order to get negative trust removed for things they did. at one point they even called out for others to join in and fire more accusations against him at once. They'll have to do the same thing against me to get me removed from DT.
229  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: May 17, 2015, 07:53:00 PM
So are you going to answer my question or are you going to keep being an instigator? The misuse of the trust system is fucking disgusting and people like you who are given power are the reason it's broken. There's a HUGE difference between you and everyone else's case. This is a clear case of trust system abuse, and you also went back and corrected your previous abuse after I had called you out on it. The trust system is supposed to be used for trading and conducting trades, not bullshit fucking drama and people who are on power trips.
The trust system is not for trading, it is to determine how trustworthy someone is.

You are right that it is not for drama, however the issue has been resolved so there is no real reason why TBZ should not be back in the default trust network

Exactly it's to determine the level of trust of an individual, which is mainly used for trading and business. TBZ has used it because of his own personal opinion and that has nothing to do with whether or not I should be trusted. The reason for my feedback had nothing at all to do with trust. Also I don't think the issue is resolved, TBZ is failing to take any blame or come to a conclusion with me at any point. People like this should not be on the default trust list. TBZ sent me a download link in which I tipped him, where he reduced his rating to a neutral. He didn't do it because of the forum rules or to come to a resolution. The trust system is broken if people can make a comment and have somebody lash out at them using the system because they have more power (At the time I wasn't on D2) That's why people like this need to be axed from D2, or just change the trust system all together.


It's also not a big deal, but I don't take lightly to misuse of the trust system, especially when it's aimed towards me. I'm perfectly fine with leaving the forum because I'm not going to have this crap be done to me and nothing be done about it. I'm curious to see whether or not the forum thinks that TBZ's use of the trust system, based off the two or three comments that were no big deal in the first place, went across the line into abuse of the trust system. There's several uses for the trust system, but I'm positive that's not one of them.
230  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: May 17, 2015, 07:37:03 PM
IMO the only reason they removed him in the first place is because they had just removed me from the default trust list for basically the same situation and they didn't want to look like even bigger hypocrites. This is why they are letting him back on because it was just a show to make it look like that actually enforce the rules for everyone.

TS for example, tried for months to damage my credibility with libel.  In my mind, that makes him untrustworthy and I left the appropriate trust.

So as we can see here, Vod's general reasoning on libel and neg trust is functionally indistinguishable from mine.

TECSHARE: If your case is truly what I bolded, then copy and paste the following* to make it absolutely clear that you've received unequal treatment:

Vod says he got libeled. Vod leaves negative trust on libelers. Vod wasn't removed from default trust (DT) for that.
TheButterZone says he got libeled. TheButterZone left 1 negative trust on 1 libeler using, unknowingly at the time, basically the same reasoning as Vod. He was removed from DT T2 for that, and restored only after downgrading it to a neutral. Vod hasn't similarly had to convert his negs on libelers to neutrals to stay in DT.
I, TECSHARE got libeled. I left negative trust on a libeler, using basically the same reasoning as Vod. I was removed from DT (T2?) for that despite Vod not being removed for the same thing.
I petition for myself, and all who leave negative trust on libelers, to receive equal consideration and treatment as Vod.



ETA: T1s dooglus and tomatocage appear to be Vod's T2 sponsors, so that's who I would petition first. It only appears that Vod is allowed to neg trust libelers ad infinitum without costing his T2, because of them.

So are you going to answer my question or are you going to keep being an instigator? The misuse of the trust system is fucking disgusting and people like you who are given power are the reason it's broken. There's a HUGE difference between you and everyone else's case. This is a clear case of trust system abuse, and you also went back and corrected your previous abuse after I had called you out on it. The trust system is supposed to be used for trading and conducting trades, not bullshit fucking drama and people who are on power trips. I've always been fair with my ratings and giving people feedback, but this is just disgusting to me. You do not deserve to be on the default trust list nor should your opinion be trusted.
231  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: May 17, 2015, 08:06:11 AM
He left you a neutral rating. What are you crying about?

Indeed. Note that all I did was revoke my surrender*, originally offered in the false hope that he would stop his libelous posting pattern (including that he would delete his prior libel against me. Perhaps that implication was unclear.)

if it will stop Wardrick's libelous posting pattern, I have no attachment to being on DT.

Setting recent posts aside, in light of the OP remaining as it was 6 months ago with that opening line, et al, and his neglect to delete his libel here and here (anywhere else?)...

*I could have decided to ignore the consistency between Vod and I's reasoning yet inconsistent treatment thereof, and said, "I'm going to neg trust him again, even though it won't get anyone justice!", or just had a PTSD attack and started treating the entire forum as my enemies for not removing him from DT for libel or nuking him altogether (which also hasn't happened to those who Vod says libeled him). What a shame, PTSD really shouldn't be weaponized into a communicable disorder.

So you want me to delete one post, in a thread with dozens of pages, that was originally nothing at all until you posted in the thread? I could of probably done that, I tried contacting you many times to attempt to resolve the issue and you refused to do anything and instead just tried to escalate the situation. Are you reading what I write or are you failing to understand that I have never and never will have a libelous posting pattern, and all you are doing is creating a problem where there is none. How you got back on the default trust list without resolving this issue is confusing me. You are the libeler here, you are creating a situation and ruining my reputation by creating drama where there is none, all I am trying to do is restore my account back to normal. I have no interest in libeling you, nor will I ever have an interest in libeling you. Agree to remove your feedback and I will go and delete my post and lock this thread. You have a chance to resolve the issue right now and this will be done with, I had no problem to begin with.
232  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: May 17, 2015, 12:10:55 AM
Libeler (OP) has default trust T2, libeler's victim (me) was wiped from T2=injustice done.

You are both in the default trust network at depth 2.
I think BadBear recently added him to his trust list. TBZ was not previously in default trust network (level 2) for a while now.

Maybe I'm blind? https://i.imgur.com/Upm5ZFv.jpg

Not blind no, but relying on a snapshot of a trust list at a single point in time is going to give you outdated information, trust lists aren't static. I did add you back to my trust list.

If he was removed before by everyone from the default trust list, why has he been added back onto the default trust list without anything being changed from the original decision? Unless he removes his feedback or is taken off the default trust list I have no interest in being a part of this forum. I have been very active off and on for over two years and have followed all the rules and I won't stand for injustice to be done to me and have it affect my account this way.
233  Economy / Digital goods / Re: BUYING GIFTCARDS (GC->BTC, PAYPAL, MONEYPAK, WESTERN UNION, CASH) on: May 16, 2015, 11:15:24 PM
Wouldn't be interested in a Meyer gift card.
234  Other / Meta / Re: TheButterZone Removed From Default Trust on: May 16, 2015, 11:02:43 PM
Libeler (OP) has default trust T2, libeler's victim (me) was wiped from T2=injustice done. I hereby retract my surrender at #4 and #24, as Vod's general reasoning on libel and neg trust is functionally indistinguishable from mine, yet he remains deeply embedded in default trust. I was thrown under the bus; I do not wish Vod to be.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062052.msg11390387#msg11390387

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062052.msg11390498#msg11390498

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1062052.msg11390689#msg11390689

What do you mean by thrown under the bus? You were never thrown under the bus, you escalated a situation nobody would of ever known about in the first place. I made a comment jokingly, I wasn't posting throughout the forum about you. I wasn't singling you out in any of my posts mentioning you. You are the one that created this situation. I have no clue where you came up with the idea that the FBI will come looking for you and that people will think you're a murderer? You created that in your own head, no prudent person would ever think that or imply that, especially given the circumstances.

You need to learn to take a joke, or get off the internet. And stop saying I was libeling you, or even thinking about you. I had no interest in harming your reputation whatsoever. I contacted you after I saw your feedback to work it out, and you refused. You handled the situation poorly and did everything to escalate the situation as much as you could. You shouldn't be in a position of power at any point given how you handled this benign situation, especially on the internet where you aren't facing the person.


This wasn't a case of libel, slander, harassment, or whatever you want to call it. This was a case of abuse of power, misusing the feedback system, and revenge. I'm surprised that you are back on the default trust list, especially after the attempts I had made prior to posting this thread and after I posted this thread where you acted in very bad faith. You showed no qualities of someone who I would even consider having on a default trust list. I would like to know who currently has you added to the default trust list as I don't know how to check it. By the way, you can send me back that $10.00 BTC I sent you as a tip months after this thread had been posted in for providing me with download links. It's clear you want to keep this going and have no interest in resolving the issue.
235  Economy / Digital goods / Re: BUYING GIFTCARDS (GC->BTC, PAYPAL, MONEYPAK, WESTERN UNION, CASH) on: May 15, 2015, 03:59:57 AM
im selling a burgerking 100$ e gift card, interested? if so, how much can u pay?

I could probably give you around 50% if its a physical gift card. Give me a PM.
Hey, its not physical, its e-gift card, still interesetd?

I wouldn't be interested in BK if it's an e-gift, sorry.

How much do you give for GameStop gift cards? Physical and digital same price or nah ?

I can give you 50% for GameStop, message me the amounts you have.
236  Economy / Digital goods / Re: BUYING GIFTCARDS (GC->BTC, PAYPAL, MONEYPAK, WESTERN UNION, CASH) on: May 14, 2015, 05:28:19 PM
im selling a burgerking 100$ e gift card, interested? if so, how much can u pay?

I could probably give you around 50% if its a physical gift card. Give me a PM.
237  Economy / Digital goods / Re: BUYING GIFTCARDS (GC->BTC, PAYPAL, MONEYPAK, WESTERN UNION, CASH) on: May 03, 2015, 08:33:36 PM
Helo Sir,

I have $50 x 4 Lowe's giftcard. Would you mind to take it? Got jabber? PM me.

I might be interested in it, I don't have a jabber. Messaged you.

I see you added me on messenger but it only shows "you're currently typing a message", never get any message from you though... Iono whats going on with it...  Huh

I'm not sure what the problem was, but I sent a PM to you with the questions I had. It may be a problem with Yahoo.
238  Economy / Digital goods / Re: BUYING GIFTCARDS (GC->BTC, PAYPAL, MONEYPAK, WESTERN UNION, CASH) on: May 01, 2015, 07:54:12 PM
Helo Sir,

I have $50 x 4 Lowe's giftcard. Would you mind to take it? Got jabber? PM me.

I might be interested in it, I don't have a jabber. Messaged you.
239  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: LouReed Please Reply and Pay back my 2k plus USD worth BTC on: April 30, 2015, 10:52:22 PM
I've seen numerous scam accusations come up that state they've been scammed only to mention that the actual scam happened months ago. Whether or not LouReed is scamming, this is a surefire way to get scammed as well as to get others scammed. If you haven't received your payment then make a thread right away, don't wait months down the road. If it wasn't your fault that his PayPal account was limited there is no reason you should have to wait anywhere close to that long for a payment. It seems like LouReed is taking advantage of you. Hopefully he hasn't done this to his other customers.
240  Economy / Digital goods / Re: BUYING GIFTCARDS (GC->BTC, PAYPAL, MONEYPAK, WESTERN UNION, CASH) on: April 25, 2015, 03:22:22 AM
Yes, if you need Bitcoin you can always exchange alternate currencies for them. Message me for a price quote. Online and buying.
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