Quickseller escrowing for himself

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Did you got dream that today QS going to remove from Default trust so you must come and give negative feedback again him.

No I read about it on this forum.

Why did not you gave negative feedback to QS he misused his position and escrowing his sock puppet account.

You came today and read everything what is going on and decided to leave negative feedback.

It's clearly correlated this situation. There is something fishy here surely. I know you were very active on trading before but you suddenly disappeared and again came back just for this situation.

I even don't deny there is chances that may be who is using account now not first owner of this account. Because of buying/selling account.

Oh my god I didn't just show up a minute ago. This dispute between QS and tspacepilot has been going on since April, before I took a temporary break. I still read the forum while i was away too, you don't need to be logged in to read threads you know...

Why did you only decide to leave TSP a negative trust today then almost immediately after QS was removed from DT?
Why today after a 3 month plus break from posting?

[jonald_fyookball]

Did you got dream that today QS going to remove from Default trust so you must come and give negative feedback again him.

No I read about it on this forum.

Why did not you gave negative feedback to QS he misused his position and escrowing his sock puppet account.

You came today and read everything what is going on and decided to leave negative feedback.

It's clearly correlated this situation. There is something fishy here surely. I know you were very active on trading before but you suddenly disappeared and again came back just for this situation.

I even don't deny there is chances that may be who is using account now not first owner of this account. Because of buying/selling account.

Oh my god I didn't just show up a minute ago. This dispute between QS and tspacepilot has been going on since April, before I took a temporary break. I still read the forum while i was away too, you don't need to be logged in to read threads you know...

Why did you only decide to leave TSP a negative trust today then almost immediately after QS was removed from DT?
Why today?

Yeah really... if he was so damn sure like it says in the feedback, why wasn't this posted at the time of the offense?l

[Wardrick]

Why did you only decide to leave TSP a negative trust today then almost immediately after QS was removed from DT?
Why today after a 3 month plus break from posting?

Because I know he is a scammer, after QS was removed from DT, tspacepilot had neutral trust and so I left him feedback to make it known they are untrustworthy.

[Quickseller]

Funily enough, the person that just gave a negative rating to tspacepilot is only under tomatocage in default trust. What a biased rating too. Almost makes this look like a conspiracy.

Seriously TC, trim your trust list. /jk you're free to do as you please   

TC has an exclusion against me, I am not in his trust list. I'm no fool and I'm not afraid to stand up when I see wrong. It's clear that turtlehurricane and tspacepilot have teamed up and attacked QS over various different things in order to get negative trust removed for things they did. at one point they even called out for others to join in and fire more accusations against him at once. They'll have to do the same thing against me to get me removed from DT.

I can't see your rating against him. Did the Bear remove you or is it my custom trust list?

I think it's your trust list. I haven't been removed from DT yet, though I know there is a chance I will be removed, I guess that will be the signal that it's a good time to leave this piece of shit forum forever.

You might want to sign a message from an old address that contains some BTC and is associated with your account so you can prove that your account is not sold. I would speculate that TC had excluded you because of your rage quitting of the forum when BadBear added BTZ back into his trust list.

It would have been very helpful if you had left the negative rating from tspacepilot a while ago instead of when I get removed from DT in order to take some pressure off of me (and BadBear/TC)

[Quickseller]

lol, you are inactive since may and you are saying it's good time to leave. You just appeared from cave to give negative feedback.

The reason I have not been so active here is because I dislike trading with shitheads like tspacepilot which it seems like this forum has become overridden with. I've moved on to other places to trade. I guess I'm going to risk my reputation here on what I know is the right thing and hope it goes well.

Did you got dream that today QS going to remove from Default trust so you must come and give negative feedback again him. Why did not you gave negative feedback to QS he misused his position and escrowing his sock puppet account.

You came today and read everything what is going on and decided to leave negative feedback.

It's clearly correlated this situation. There is something fishy here surely. I know you were very active on trading before but you suddenly disappeared and again came back just for this situation.

I even don't deny there is chances that may be who is using account now not first owner of this account. Because of buying/selling account.

It's just way too much of a coincidence imo. Like I said it stinks. **Cough - how many more alts**

I did like & really respect what QS was about but this is all too much.

I do not own/control Wardrick. If I did then I would have left a 2nd rating on his account...

[jonald_fyookball]

lol, you are inactive since may and you are saying it's good time to leave. You just appeared from cave to give negative feedback.

The reason I have not been so active here is because I dislike trading with shitheads like tspacepilot which it seems like this forum has become overridden with. I've moved on to other places to trade. I guess I'm going to risk my reputation here on what I know is the right thing and hope it goes well.

Did you got dream that today QS going to remove from Default trust so you must come and give negative feedback again him. Why did not you gave negative feedback to QS he misused his position and escrowing his sock puppet account.

You came today and read everything what is going on and decided to leave negative feedback.

It's clearly correlated this situation. There is something fishy here surely. I know you were very active on trading before but you suddenly disappeared and again came back just for this situation.

I even don't deny there is chances that may be who is using account now not first owner of this account. Because of buying/selling account.

It's just way too much of a coincidence imo. Like I said it stinks. **Cough - how many more alts**

I did like & really respect what QS was about but this is all too much.

I do not own/control Wardrick. If I did then I would have left a 2nd rating on his account...

For what its worth I believe you.

I also for some reason tend to believe OP over Wardrick, but I have zero proof...just a gut feeling.

[Wardrick]

It's just way too much of a coincidence imo. Like I said it stinks. **Cough - how many more alts**

I did like & really respect what QS was about but this is all too much.

I am not QS and anyone here that I have met in RL at various meetups can attest to that.

[tspacepilot]

I do not own/control Wardrick. If I did then I would have left a 2nd rating on his account...

I do not own/control Wardrick. If I did then I would have left a 2nd rating on his account...

Two things to note here:

1) despite his over-the-top protests last night about how QS doesn't confirm or deny his alts, he flat out denied this one in a half-an-hour
2) QS straight-up embraces his trust-spam policy

Re Wardrick: haters-gon-hate.  Unlike TSP's thinly veiled smear attack for a personal grudge, I literally have no idea who this guy is or why he's so inspired all-of-a-suddent to take up QS' ridiculous campaign against me.  I have literally never traded on here and woulnd't have ever done any "scambusting" if it wasn't that I've had to defend myself against ol' Quicktemper.  Presumably, you're not supposed to use a position on default trust for personal grudges.  This one seems quite a bit more transparent than Quickseller's.  Let's just see how long it lasts.

@Wardrick: do you wanna pick up where QS left off over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1129059.0 ?  You're inheriting quite a legacy!  I'll go ahead and change the topic title for you if you like.

[Lauda]

I can't see your rating against him. Did the Bear remove you or is it my custom trust list?

I can confirm that it is only your list. I see OP as Trust: ? ??: -1 / +3 , and I have only DefaultTrust and a 1 more person on my list.

I'm not taking any sides for the record (yet). The main reason for posting is for an easier over-watch of this thread which has a lot of irrelevant posts/information in it. BadBear could possibly resolve this, however if a person is extremely careful and knows what they're doing it might be impossible to identify an alt with 100% certainty. Even if he is able to do so, this will most likely be resolved 'behind the scenes'.
Let's just wait and see how this one plays out.
Update:

Not to add to the drama, but I felt it appropriate to balance out Wardricks' feedback on the OP.  Not sure if that changes how his trust appears.

Yes, it did. Now I see this:
Trust: 0: -0 / +4

[jonald_fyookball]

Not to add to the drama, but I felt it appropriate to balance out Wardricks' feedback on the OP.  Not sure if that changes how his trust appears.

[Wardrick]

@Wardrick: do you wanna pick up where QS left off over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1129059.0 ?  You're inheriting quite a legacy!  I'll go ahead and change the topic title for you if you like.

No, you have publicly discussed this issue since April. Clearly you will do anything to get your negative trust removed, I won't waste my time in continuing the discussion which is just going around in circles for many months now, which is exactly what you want, a sort of "smoke-screen" so you can cover up the obvious truth.

It's not going to work, I will not argue this with you, you will have to take it up with BadBear. If I am removed from DT then there is a good chance I will leave you another feedback from my other DT account which will be much harder to get removed from DT.

[Athertle]

@Wardrick: do you wanna pick up where QS left off over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1129059.0 ?  You're inheriting quite a legacy!  I'll go ahead and change the topic title for you if you like.

No, you have publicly discussed this issue since April. Clearly you will do anything to get your negative trust removed, I won't waste my time in continuing the discussion which is just going around in circles for many months now, which is exactly what you want, a sort of "smoke-screen" so you can cover up the obvious truth.

It's not going to work, I will not argue this with you, you will have to take it up with BadBear. If I am removed from DT then there is a good chance I will leave you another feedback from my other DT account which will be much harder to get removed from DT.

I don't see why you're going to expose your other DT alt account just to tag tsp with a negative feedback for a period of time. If that account is removed from DT and then you expose your other account as well, then it will probably also be removed from DT.

[Quickseller]

Not to add to the drama, but I felt it appropriate to balance out Wardricks' feedback on the OP.  Not sure if that changes how his trust appears.

I would suggest that you review how many QS threads the OP has started and how much trolling the OP has done before you say that tspacepilot has avoided drama. Anyone who says that tspacepilot avoided drama in any QS situation is just acting ridiculous.

If you want to see just how trustworthy tspacepilot is, then I would suggest that you review this thread in detail, while having TF on your ignore list. I believe the reasonable person will see that tspacepilot stole money and refused to return it

[Quickseller]

I guess you're all just waiting on me now. In light of the evidence that's been presented here, I think it would be prudent at this time to remove QS from my Trust list until the issues can be sorted.

I am sorry, but I am going to have to call you out on this one. What additional evidence has been presented between your quoted post and this post?

I don't see how escrowing for himself would be a scam, unless he's tacking on an extra escrow fee and making the other party pay it. Even then there would be much more effective ways to scam such as, well, simply walking away with the entire escrow amount. From the outside it might seem a little shady, but you have to consider the fact that he's a highly trusted member and very effective scam-buster. As such it's only natural that he would make a lot of enemies from people whose intentions may not be totally above-board to begin with. So if, for instance, QS saw a deal for widgets in the Marketplace section that he couldn't pass up, but he knew that ordering widgets would potentially expose him to the sort of people previously referred to, it's only logical that he might use an alt to abstract himself.

tspacepilot, I like you, man. I think you bring to the forum a certain level of quality and content that most users sorely lack. Furthermore, I do not think QS's rating for you is totally necessary. However, I feel that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, so to speak. As I've said before, I'd rather have a few people butthurt than 10 times as many scammed.

So basically I'd file this accusation in the "big flippin deal" bucket.

[Wardrick]

Not to add to the drama, but I felt it appropriate to balance out Wardricks' feedback on the OP.  Not sure if that changes how his trust appears.

"balancing out" feedback is generally a bad idea as everyone has different trust lists. Anyone who doesn't have me in their trust will see your positive feedback and potentially mistake it for a vouch from you for TSP.

I ask that you read into this issue some more and reconsider your feedback. To me it is quite clear that TSP stole BTC from TF and then tried to cover it up instead of addressing the situation. That makes him highly untrustworthy in my books and deserving of negative trust.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

It's not going to work, I will not argue this with you, you will have to take it up with BadBear. If I am removed from DT then there is a good chance I will leave you another feedback from my other DT account which will be much harder to get removed from DT.

I thought you were just going to leave the forum if they remove you from DT? That's what you said in the quote below any way? Or is it your intention just to destroy tsp?

I think it's your trust list. I haven't been removed from DT yet, though I know there is a chance I will be removed, I guess that will be the signal that it's a good time to leave this piece of shit forum forever.

[jonald_fyookball]

Not to add to the drama, but I felt it appropriate to balance out Wardricks' feedback on the OP.  Not sure if that changes how his trust appears.

I would suggest that you review how many QS threads the OP has started and how much trolling the OP has done before you say that tspacepilot has avoided drama. Anyone who says that tspacepilot avoided drama in any QS situation is just acting ridiculous.

If you want to see just how trustworthy tspacepilot is, then I would suggest that you review this thread in detail, while having TF on your ignore list. I believe the reasonable person will see that tspacepilot stole money and refused to return it

So, he used a bot to get rewards?  Tspacepilot, is that what happened? 

[Quickseller]

Not to add to the drama, but I felt it appropriate to balance out Wardricks' feedback on the OP.  Not sure if that changes how his trust appears.

I would suggest that you review how many QS threads the OP has started and how much trolling the OP has done before you say that tspacepilot has avoided drama. Anyone who says that tspacepilot avoided drama in any QS situation is just acting ridiculous.

If you want to see just how trustworthy tspacepilot is, then I would suggest that you review this thread in detail, while having TF on your ignore list. I believe the reasonable person will see that tspacepilot stole money and refused to return it

So, he used a bot to get rewards?  Tspacepilot, is that what happened? 

He labeled his bot in a way that can only reasonably be concluded that he intentionally mislabeled it to fool the system in place that prevents bots from receiving rewards that were intended for humans. When he was called out on it, he strongly disputed that negative ratings were appropriate for things that happened outside of the forum, trolled for a little while and then made a trollish offer to repay 0.001BTC when it was claimed that he stole ~.5BTC.

Mitchell was one person who publicly agreed that tspacepilot stole money, and over a year later, tspacepilot started trolling mitchell from one of his alts over a paid advert that was earning mitchell maybe $20-$30 per month.

[jonald_fyookball]

  

I see.

I removed the trust rating.

[Quickseller]

 

I see.

I removed the trust rating.

Feel free to leave a negative one to warn others about his past behavior