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2201  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 14, 2014, 01:44:11 PM
welcome Smiley
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2202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 14, 2014, 12:09:57 PM

comment was removed so this has been edited to reflect that
that is not FUD, its legitimate concerns and questions.
To the best of my knowledge and as I understand it dognip does NOT have any relationship with any employee of MBA.

Get away with what exactly? Seriously... get your mind out of the gutter and learn some respect. Why anyone would want to answer you the way yo behave is beyond me..... however.....
Certain redactions are MY private details that people such as you I do not want to have. So, shelve ya conspiracy theories and sort yourself out.
As for other parts, what in gods name make YOU think YOU have the right to see every element of a business deal? You need to go learn how the real world works.
As and when the information is required either by law or by convention to be disclosed, it will be. Outside of that you will be allowed to see what is appropriate for that time. Not more, not less. As such, at this time, YOU are not allowed to see elements I have requested private and other parties for operational reasons. We have nothing to "hide" but we do not have to disclose all of our plans with you because you shout loud. Impact and presence are created by hard work and labour in the background sometimes and this is one of those times. If the current level of details enclosed so far does not meet your expectations then I suggest you learn how to manage thiose expectations better for your own sake.

Many people need to understand that they do not get an automatic right to see what is going on at every single minute stage of this process.

So why did you remove the post ??

Anyway..............

So let me get this right, you ask the community to fund it (or partially) and we are told that full transparency about the deal with the PR company will be available (multiple times).

And know you say that ;
1) Those that funded this do NOT have right to see full disclosure of the deal and contract terms
2) As representatives of the community you have an obligation to the community first and foremost.

There are already tell tale signs within that contract that do not sit well with me.
e.g - the $1K per transaction that is to be paid in BC (so not really $1K depending upon how you look at it)

Lets first by clarifying who exactly the PR (Agency)contract is with(Client);
So is the contract with the PR firm for a business(under the pseudo of Black Coin foundation) , the BCpool, Legion Development Group or the BC community??

or is that Privileged and Private too ??




Clearly one of the biggest issues surrounding this at this time is that there are two parties in the mix.

One party is a group of investors and parts of the community (on that note.. how much did YOU give to the cause? aside from giving it a headache) and as such they have expectations about how their money has been used and with whom. Understandable but as stated before, some things have to play out and occasionally behind closed doors at first to ensure accurate management and detailed reporting when actually disclosed, and it will be disclosed of that you can be certain, as and when it is appropriate to do so and in a way that does not compromise the security or integrity of those involved. I will take a reasonable stab in the dark and guess that you don’t and never have, run a business (especially the bricks and mortar type).

The other is by the fact a representative of the Foundation was present at the PR firms "hiring" meeting. Why was he there? To ensure and protect the "BlackCoin" image and technology, that it is safeguarded and presented in a manner that does not misrepresent it and the work done/being done.

Somehow though, a small minded minority have taken this and run with it to the point that conspiracy after conspiracy is now in effect. This appears however to be a state that exists only in these small minds.

Persistent and rabid baiting of The Foundation and the Investors who were brave enough to put their money where their mouth was is a tragic reflection of some of the people that inhabit these boards. And no amount of platitudes would ever quieten you/them down. As such the best method of managing these people is to ignore them when their agenda is merely to make noise.

I am comforted however by simple facts such as the amount of these people, and that includes you, are in the minority and that the smart investor, crypto owner etc. see's these efforts by you as futile attempts at making hard working and honest people look bad. And therein lies something you might want to reflect on.... you make all this noise "for and on behalf" of "people" in the name of protecting their investment when what you’re actually doing is damaging it. But then if you had actually managed to grasp that little fact we wouldn’t be having this conversation.....

I will close however by saying that we are now entering an exciting time for BlackCoin.

The Foundation is hard at work finalising its Mission Statement and operational mechanics. It has some impressive ideas on ways to support the Community that is by far and away above people’s expectations of a normal "Community".

The Investors? Well you will have to ask them yourself. Although I'd recommend improving your manners as from what I know of a few of them, you're not likely to get a favourable response with the delivery you've used so far.

You need to decide who the enemy is here and why, because at the moment the only real problem I see here is your crappy attitude towards decent people, and while I'm happy for you to make yourself look the fool, I am rather tired of this rubbish. As such you are now on ignore and won’t get any further responses from me. You have eaten enough of my time and I have businesses to run and a Hospital to maintain.
2203  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 14, 2014, 11:00:53 AM
The idea of this coin OK, just don't know future development

As with ALL investment decisions... Do your own research. Its all out there and people here will be happy to help.

rat4 the developer is making very regular commits and the packages are regualrly maintained, which is by far better than many other coins out there.

I'm gonna wear shades cos the futures so bright....
2204  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 14, 2014, 10:49:44 AM
http://www.bitfin.com/

Who's in ?

2205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 14, 2014, 10:08:46 AM

comment was removed so this has been edited to reflect that
Oh no you don't get away with removing that info!!

So Dognip knows the PR company by virtue of the fact a company he has dealings with employed their services in the past.
But you also stated he does not directly work for said PR company.


OK, that's cool.

Does Dognip have any relationship with any employee/management from that said PR firm.

Also - the invoice and contract info supplied seem incomplete.
contract has massive amount of info blacked out - for no reason other then it details the contracted AMOUNTS in $$.
And it states client 'is a company not an organisation'.

that is not FUD, its legitimate concerns and questions.
To the best of my knowledge and as I understand it dognip does NOT have any relationship with any employee of MBA.

Get away with what exactly? Seriously... get your mind out of the gutter and learn some respect. Why anyone would want to answer you the way yo behave is beyond me..... however.....
Certain redactions are MY private details that people such as you I do not want to have. So, shelve ya conspiracy theories and sort yourself out.
As for other parts, what in gods name make YOU think YOU have the right to see every element of a business deal? You need to go learn how the real world works.
As and when the information is required either by law or by convention to be disclosed, it will be. Outside of that you will be allowed to see what is appropriate for that time. Not more, not less. As such, at this time, YOU are not allowed to see elements I have requested private and other parties for operational reasons. We have nothing to "hide" but we do not have to disclose all of our plans with you because you shout loud. Impact and presence are created by hard work and labour in the background sometimes and this is one of those times. If the current level of details enclosed so far does not meet your expectations then I suggest you learn how to manage thiose expectations better for your own sake.

Many people need to understand that they do not get an automatic right to see what is going on at every single minute stage of this process.
2206  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 14, 2014, 09:20:36 AM

comment was removed so this has been edited to reflect that
2207  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 13, 2014, 06:29:18 PM
Guys when you pay a company 32k dollars, idk if you know this -- but you can wear whatever the hell you want behind closed doors. Lol

McKie
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2208  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 13, 2014, 03:29:31 PM
More good news from CoinKite.  Cool

https://twitter.com/Coinkite/status/466217575597490176/photo/1

Quote from: CoinKite Twitter
Coinkite ‏@Coinkite

Blackcoin integration testing is going very well! pic.twitter.com/C38ItS4CfU



THIS +more 1's than I can type....

THIS is what people should be doing as well as so many other things. Feeding the trolls here distracts us from making this all a success.

How many of you have actually examined how this could make YOU money?! Friends who run businesses? Get them on the platform, make it easy for them.... AND if they sell BTC/LTC/BLK (which YOU could supply them) you make a PROFIT...

c'mon people wake up and smell the coffee, dont waste ya time on others that are addicited to your comments.

You OWE yourself the time to do this.....
2209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 13, 2014, 12:29:10 PM
中国还有很多人不知道黑币 远不如狗币

We would love to get to know the Chinese BC community better. I hang out on QQ now and then and they are enthusiastic.

Even thoguh, I'd like us to plan/think of how to get the message out or promoting BC also in China

The BlackCoin community has already started! I love that BLK has a large Chinese community we didn't really know about and that we're already working to connect better with them.  Cheesy Check this out:

https://thebitcoinnews.co.uk/2014/05/11/blackcoin-community-reaches-out-to-china/


This press is thanks to user ecochav on r/blackccoin (the subreddit) in the last day or two. He created and translated an introduction article, then created a Chinese version of the BLK logo! Other community members also helped out and put their input into the project:

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/259fv0/what_is_blackcoin_%E4%BB%80%E4%B9%88%E5%8F%AB%E9%BB%91%E5%B8%81/
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/25aexh/chinese_blackcoin_logo/



This is a really good start to reach out to another strong BlackCoin community! Smiley





And the Foundation would be more than happy to talk to the Chinese Community about the future and engagement of BlackCoin in China. I believe Gritt is already working on this with others so keep up the good work Smiley

It's precisely this kind of Networking that makes us all successful and takes the Coin to the masses we so desire to be using BC
2210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 13, 2014, 12:26:47 PM
To Whom It May Concern



Nice pic
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2211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 13, 2014, 12:22:43 PM
Once again great work on the BlackCast.
Needs a little polish as others have correctly noted but all the same, well done and I loved the Lambo..... Go Wiz! you rock dude!

I have noticed that by ignoring just 3 people, this whole thread becomes friendly and readable again although I will make this request,... please stop quoting the rubbish in your posts otherwise I have to see stuff I've deliberately ignored. Please don't find yourself ignored because you keep quoting their rubbish.

As always, there's huge amounts going on in the background with business and investment working together all over the place. Enquiries for more information are tumbling in and "leads" are being emailed to me all the time.

Exciting times ahead! We get to meet and greet the glitterati of the Bitcoin world this week and stake our claim in the crypto space with BlackCoin to these same people.

Real business people get on with making money not noise. They also have slightly longer memories than some people that have decided to post in this thread despite their statements to the contrary previously, which in itself points to either a "need" or an "addiction". Anyway, its irrelevent if you use the ignore button and dont quote.

So, much to do and much to be getting on with.

Keep up the good work, you know who you are!!!
2212  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 12, 2014, 10:16:40 PM
Oh, someone's not getting enough attention at his own thread and getting quite desperate, yet again. Roll Eyes
Smiley
2213  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 12, 2014, 09:27:46 AM
Great work on the new Pool guys.

Bitcoin2014 this week.... we get to meet Coinkite people at last! Can't tell you how stoked I am about this one!

More and more adopters everyday!

To all those working hard behind the scenes...keep up the great work.

To those that stand on the sidelines and just make noise.... be quiet and get busy. Be productive!
2214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 11, 2014, 03:46:19 PM
BlackCoin Week in Review




CoinKite helping promote BlackCoin:
https://twitter.com/Coinkite/status/464815252618887168

PR Firm Revealed:
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24ym20/pr_firm_name_here_you_go/

Blackcast #2 happening Monday:
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/251fzg/blackcast_2_your_host_wizfarm_with_soepkip_maarx
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599299.msg6612597#msg6612597

BlackCoinPool launching V2 Sunday (today!) at 5PM EST:
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/259sv6/blackcoin_pool_scheduled_downtime_may_11_at_500pm/

KNC Miner promotion started:
http://www.blackcoin.co/mining/knc-miner-promotion-starts-today/

Red VS Blue Turns Black (TF2 Tournament with BLK prizes):
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24rwjv/red_vs_blue_turns_black_the_first_ever_community
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=599299.msg6611004#msg6611004

RJSchex and Boogie79 analyze energy consumption of BLK vs. BTC with staggering results (BLK network could take 0.33% or less of the energy that the BTC network takes to run, even with the same adoption as BTC):
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/259ray/if_you_are_good_at_science_or_an_engineer_please/
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/25a5rv/more_information_on_the_renewable_energy/

BlackCoin Wikipedia article creation in progress:
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/254orb/if_you_know_how_to_edit_this_blackcoin_wikipedia/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/BlackCoin

BlackCoin introduction article with Chinese translation posted this morning:
http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/259fv0/what_is_blackcoin_%E4%BB%80%E4%B9%88%E5%8F%AB%E9%BB%91%E5%B8%81/

News Articles:
CryptoArticles - http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/2014/5/7/blackcoins-pr-campaign-starting-soon-agency-name-revealed
CoinDesk (Again!) - http://www.coindesk.com/all-things-alt-quarks-shaq-cess-blackcoins-pr-pivot-and-dogecoins-victory-lap
ForexMinute - http://www.forexminute.com/cryptocurrency-news/blackcoin-foundation-starts-fundraising-to-hire-pr-agency-30978


There are plenty of awesome BlackCoin projects and happenings to talk about! Don't let the drama created by a very small group of BitcoinTalk posters control the discourse and overrun the work being put into this coin. We have every reason to be positive here.


Thanks to ScytheX and MuffinMaster as I shamelessly copied links from some of their posts.  Grin

Thanks for this Smiley

These are the kind of things we need to remind ourselves of regularly. We do have short memories about whats happening sometimes.
2215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 11, 2014, 02:27:35 PM

there's still potential and large number of real supporters of this coin !!!

maybe you will call me naive...but I'm still holding my coins..
don't forget CoinKite is coming, it's a very rare chance for a alt crypto we have to respect that

Personally I wouldnt call you naive, especially when you bring Coinkite into the conversation. Having personally purchased the Terminals to bring to the UK, I'm very excited by the new possiblities opening up as a result.

It is precisely this kind of stuff, hardware AND software that will take crypto off the forums and into the hands of real users.

Tie ups with games, retailers, products and services and Institutions like Universities etc will make all the difference. Focussing on just one group is not going to work as there are so many possiblities and opportunities.

What saddens me is that so many people really have missed this... BlackCoin on Coinkite gives people the affordable way to use crypto above Bitcoin. While people argue over whether its 28k or 35k sats the real obvious thing here is ... ITS STILL CHEAP considering what it's going to offer you!! Greater adoption equals better price. Work WITH Coinkite to make this happen. Buy a Terminal, become a mobile ATM and sell your Coins right there right then!! Help them it helps us. And if you've done your research you'll see they offer a business model that ANYONE OF YOU can make money from, whether thats by commission only, the BTC you hold or the BlackCoin you hold.

You lot get so wrapped up with flinging poop at each other you cant see the business opportunities from the poop. some of you say your professional this and pro that. I've yet to see it from most of you. I've seen lots of claims about this and that and still no evidence of success. If some of you put as much energy in trying to make this a success as you do shouting it down things would be a lot shinier... for YOU. And I say that last bit very deliberately...for YOU..... because for ME they're going to be great. There's an emormous amount of hard work to do before then mind, but thats part of the fun and the challenge.. You have to WANT something bad enough to make it succeed. I will be going from Computer Store to Board room all over the area selling Coinkite/BLK and BTC, evangelising the future we all know thats coming. Notice, thats NOT sitting behind a screen howling at some poop flinger, it's good old fashioned work, something I'm gonna guess some of you have yet to experience based on the immature BS here sometimes.  Change that and change your destiny.
And before some lights their little pocket rocket in excitement over "oooh Foundation Board member doing Coinkite" .. remember this.

1. I am a Businessman, I am allowed to make a living. I choose to make that living in Information Technology and Associated Services. I've been good at it for a very long time. Running businesses that serviced Microsoft and Sun Microsystems, The Royal Society of Chemistry, RNIB and many more....
2. Being a Board member will not give me a sales advantage to anyone, considering that most people are only just getting used to Bitcoin let alone BlackCoin, and where they are getting into BTC its on a small scale at present ... not millionaire stuff yet....
3. Ask yourself this and try to give an honest answer....What are you SELFLESSLY doing to make things happen in a positive way today? Not just for you, but for the Community AND for BlackCoin.
2216  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] | BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | GoBlackCoin | PoS | No premine | No IPO on: May 11, 2014, 01:32:30 PM

And since they are your pals at The Foundation, what does exactly Josh do in Cambodia that is of any remote interest for BC's progress? Nothing in Cambodia, I don't care what it may be, is of any interest or relevance to anything, anywhere in the rest of the world, what is exactly what he does over there -including if he ever gets some atms in one town or two-, that is of any interest or relevance to BC?  What does Mickey do? I mean he says he has just about 30k coins left after giving so much to so many projects but, other than those donations, what is it that he actually does that merits to be in the board of the Foundation? What do YOU do? We all know that Eugene is the capo di tuti capi, the puppet master, Don Corleone. And we all know Rob is the guy that couldn't get arrested (or a job) and now "works" for the 'per diems' and sells what he mines and a bit of his just over 100k stack to pay the rent. What exactly do you three geniuses do to "represent BC officially"? And who pays for Amsterdam? No need to answer that: The Black Hand, of course.


The above paragraph highlights just how narrow minded, rude and ignorant you really are.
You are borderline racist with your disparaging marks against Cambodia and your words against Gritt are clearly hostile, negative and immensely dumb.
The fact you ignore press articlles in an National paper for a product (BlackCoin) that is being promoted worldwide again shows what a small provincial minded person you are.
You sling out accusations as if they were sown like seeds in a field.
I certainly have nothing to prove to you and certainly not when you cannot even get your facts straight.
Of all the things you deserve, an answer when you click your fingers is not one of them.
2217  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 11, 2014, 01:09:35 PM
Today, at 5:00 PM EST - or - in around 10 hours from now, the BlackCoinPool v2.0 will be life.

The back- and frontend have been completely written from scratch and it is NOT a custom implementation of NOMP.

I'm excited.

www.blackcoinpool.com ..

.. 10 hours
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2218  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 11, 2014, 01:07:01 PM
So Iconic is really out of bc?

And for the record I am slowly liquidating my BC. It will take forever since my goal is not to crash the market, but it seems other investors do not share the same sentiment.

I would guess that the eventual answer will be yes by the above statement. However, no timescale is given so it's anyone guess as to when his final exit day is.
2219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 11, 2014, 06:33:29 AM
Well, what a noisy bunch some of you are!
While there may be some genuine concerns, ones that can easily be addresssed. The way the usual suspects are howling and flinging poop once again indicates their agenda is not the intersts of the coin but to creat as much trouble as possible under the guise of "genuine interest". Well you may delude yourselves into thinking this but you do not fool the vast majority of sensible people.

It's like asking the local radio station to only play your favorite artist..... not realistic is it?
ON that note, WizFarm is an entertainer as well as a businessman. As such his ability to create and use media to benefit a coin is far above what many others can and have achieved. I would not be surprised if other people asked him to help them and if he is invested in another coin, he gets asked to help them in that manner too.

It is completely unreasonable to expect an investor to put all their money into one product/service/company. It doesnt happen in real life and it wont happen here either.
So shush and grow up.

So, step away from the poop and quieten down. All you do is make yourself look immature and rather foolish.

PS: I dont see Cinni raising tens of thousands of dollars for it's PR and deployment to the high street.......
2220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BlackCoin (BC/BLK) | PoS | No Premine - No IPO - ONLY OFFICIAL THREAD on: May 10, 2014, 06:13:35 PM
A watched pot never boils....
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