You are not welcome to respond to this.  Even though clowns of your caliber can't keep from it.

A - Person says "Cachecoin is worth .01 bitcoin if you order my ASIC"

B - Person sells their cachecoin they mined months before to you to buy their ASIC using their wife's account.

C - Person has no evidence they ever had an ASIC because the foundry would "cancel the order if they knew it was going to be used for cryptocurrency"

D - Person disabled their website and used it promoted XC

E - Person offers you discount (in cachecoin) that is now worth 0.2% of what it was.

F - Person "runs out of refund money" for people who paid in bitcoin and litecoin.

This is the calliber "red flag" we are talking about for those thinking about investing in XC.  The currency now promoted on the site that took all of our orders.

Why people like you always call everything "FUD"??

Oh please stop with the mis-direction.

First:
When a project blows up, sentiments and accusations start flying in addition to valid complaints.

You're just sweeping everything said here as false accusations when in fact:

1. Money was taken for a product.
2. Said product was not delivered.
3. Requests for explanations are met with nebulous / non-verifiable excuses.
3. An entire website filled with data on customer orders was taken down and has not been put back up well after the promised date.
4. No explanations are offered for the delay.
5. Jasin has not answered any further questions and has been MIA for the past week and a half.

Second
You're trying to confound the meaning of tangible proof and the use case. Your example is the use of fabricated proof to attempt to back an accusation. In this case tangible proof constitutes verifiable proof to prove a point; that work was done. Again, the refusal to allow someone to contact a foundry to verify dealings with Fibonaci is a red flag.

It's a pretty simple question to answer without trying to redirect into another argument.

This is much more than just a project blowing up. This is someone taking money for a project and failing to even produce any tangible proof that the money received was indeed going towards work of the project.

Dude.  The proof that he promised it?

Each one of those points is backed up in the OP's thread.  If anyone with more than 20 posts besides synchillis asks for proof from those points I will do the work to dig up Jasin's posts and the counter posts and blah blah blah on here.

doesn't give a shit about scammers

I posted plenty of proof in the threads of the OP.

 It will turn into a massive, and I mean MASSIVE thread that will mostly be duplicated.

You... have stated yourself that people are spreading unreasonable FUD if they don't have a personal stake in a scam.

Shut up.  Go away.  Send someone else and I'll do the painstaking legwork of spoonfeeding direct quotes from those threads.

Jasin has taken many people's money and has failed to deliver any sort of product.

Jasin has made excuse after excuse on why a product has not been delivered. These excuses were always obscure and meaningless. There were even a few that was just plain unbelievable.

Example of such an excuse: not providing the name of the foundry for people to verify because the company does not like crypto-currency mining and he would be taken out of the queue if the foundry found out. This does not make sense on so many levels. Why would a foundry care about the use of an ASIC as long as they're not violating export regulations? Even if the foundry did, why would one take such an unnecessary risk? There are contract terms that can protect you from a foundry deciding to pull you out of queue on the fly; are there not these sort of terms in the initial contract agreement? If not, then why?

Now in the past couple weeks, another promised deadline was missed and not one single word from Jasin. He, at this point, has all but disappeared with people's money.

These are much more than allegations. The poster of this thread has linked a forum post that spans 600+ pages, of which at least the past 100+ pages are filled with people who have had their money taken from them. There are even a number of lawsuits being filed.

1 - Jasin promised ASICs that there is STILL no evidence exist.

2 - HE promised them 2 months ago.

3 - He refuses to post in the litecoin thread

4 - It's proven that his wife was selling Cache while he was pumping it

5 - It's proven dozens of people are waiting for hundreds of thousands in refunds.

I've re-read those threads this evening, and read them (and several more) multiple times when this ASIC thing blew up.

What you've linked to by no means constitutes proof. Do you seriously think it does??


And yes, pull every single order and account for it all. Otherwise this is just more unethical FUD.

It will require me to pull old crypsty orders, the cachecoin order I sent to him, his wife's sockpuppet account buying cache.  Which I can and will absolutely do as soon as I have access to my 2FA computer.  

You have seriously read none of those threads have you?  

Voted! 

I also noticed that there are two listings for XCurrency... strange!

That Jasin owes me $5,000+.  That he owes others up to $30,000+.

Please quit replying to my thread.  You are reading nothing.  That (regardless of what you say) I would have posted this if he owed me nothing.

Unlike you apparently I have no use for scammers in crypto space.  I don't want them working with me, around me, on the coin I'm invested in or anything else.

Once again - not true.  You read nothing.  You say what you want to be true to try and discredit me.  I wish I'd made this thread moderatable.  

What a joke.

Is jasin on the payroll - I didn't see that question answered.

If I'm not mistaken, Jasin refunded you and then you claimed to have bought more shares - but didn't prove it.

You stopped replying to Jasin's PMs.

Why don't you simply reply with proof of the money you're owed and then get refunded?

What the hell?  This is essentially XC's PR guy saying "Who gives a shit if he's a scammer - he didn't take YOUR money.  What's your problem"

"You have no reason to inform people that a developer is a massive fraudster if he didn't take YOUR MONEY"

Does nobody give a flying f%%% when people are ripped off thousands and just continue on their way?  The XC "team" obviously doesn't.  Not in practice - not in speech.  And this statement parades it around on massive display.

You do NOT want to be associated with these guys.

"If he didn't steal from you - you shouldn't give a sh** that other people are gonna get ripped off"

What a tool.

There's more than reasonable evidence that Jasin is at least involved in Fraud (whether you want to say intentional or unintentional, is up to you).