One more day wasted in this community because of this finger pointing and blaming, only this time it got to a whole new level. Really wonder what's in store for tomorrow now...  There's never a day wasted... Some of us, despite the noise, have been busy building the road to infrastructure and deployment. As every day passes more happens and more is being bedded in. On some cases we can't talk about it and on others we're keeping the powder dry for a big event and finally some of this just isn't ready yet, so why spoil the fun? |
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is the coin dead?or will be new high?
No, it's not dead, but new highs will only be seen with marketing, like IE is doing, not what the manipulating multipool mob is doing. If you mine with them, please reconsider mining another coin and trading for BC on your own, they can't be trusted from this point forward and who knows what they are doing with the coins they mine with our hashpower. I'm done using the multipool, but not done with BC, far from it, I'm holding. Next time.... take the blue pill.... |
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EVIDENCE EVIDENCE EVIDENCE
If this were a court of law, you would have been arrested by now for wasting the courts time, now put up or shut up, you already have one letter from a lawyer coming your way.. deal with the truth and the facts, make your case now or shut the hell up once and for all! seriously
Prove your case or forever hold your peace, do you not clearly see and understand it is YOU on trial here no one else.... YOU are the one that now has to prove you are right NOT that others are wrong.
This is a simple case to deal with, release your evidence and make your case ... NOW.
Otherwise, be off foul creature of lies and deciet.
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IconicExpert, could you take a break for a week and spend it away from internet? We all need rest sometimes.
When the very man that makes the product tells you to take a break, I think its time to take the deep breath, consider what has gone before and what could come after, and do as the nice man says. For all our sakes but especially yours, take a break and leave the thread for a while. Your now committing yourself in ways youre not even realising that are dangerous to your self in respect of any reputation you have left and legally. Take the advice of the 3rd party.... Take a break |
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We are back to the India fud? That was debuncted on Saturday...try again To be honest I reckon the cards will all arrive. I'm more concerned about the conspiracy theories YOU come up with especially as they now involve me! But YOU are not answering any of my questions. I wonder why? I would agree and tbh I'm not concerned about the cards. I'll let that one play out. I am however more concerned at IE's lack of honesty and deliberate avoidance of key issues and questions HE started and raised.... The libellous comments about me he has refused to acknowledge or answer. And the way he has spoken about and treated you. It becomes clear that he will go for "easy targets" but once he goes for people that are more than capable of defending themselves, because they have done no wrong, he ignores them as "done business". And refunds.... they're coming when? or have you already cashed out the takings? as you said yourself. Hard to replace coins when they're in fiat. He is a liar and a fraud and now quite possibly a criminal as well. |
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I didn't prove you right at all...and I am still waiting for Maarx to publicly say I am lying...
didn't you get the memo? You've already done that to yourself. You are the Fool here. |
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Dear BlackCoin Community, I'm blown away by the potential of the upcoming 90 day PR campaign. Our lovely coin will be catapulted onto the world stage and I firmly believe this will be immensely beneficial to BC. So over the weekend I thought, "what can I do to help BlackCoin?" in addition to my donations to all projects already? Well. I've decided to put all my efforts into assisting with the PR campaign by making FURTHER donations to the cause equal to those raised by the community up to a value of $5,000.I promise to match EVERY donation from now onwards for 24 hours up to a total of $5,000. You can pay in any of the official denominations. For accounting purposes I need you to list your donation transaction ID on reddit, I will then match it 100%. I will be promoting my fund raiser on Reddit, Twitter and BitCoinTalk. Official donation addresses: BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1 Paypal: http://www.blackcoin.co/donate/Tell me about your donation HERE on Reddit, and I will match it: http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24si9s/i_will_match_your_pr_donations_to_5000_for_24/So, please help me reach my target, together we can add $10,000 to the fund raised. If you have already donated (like me) then consider donating AGAIN as I'm going double it for you! Let's get BlackCoin to $1 sooner rather than later!! Let's get this PR campaign underway and prove what an AWESOME COMMUNITY we are! You can find more about the PR campaign here: http://www.blackcoin.co/general/the-next-step-for-blackcoin-hiring-an-pr-agency/Thank you for donations so far guys! Digicidal 500 BC donation MATCHED! svojoe 1.1 BTC donation MATCHED! UdjinM6 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! noerc 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! SunnyIgor 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! ener_bc 1,000 BC donation MATCHED!! JamesR1 200 BC donation MATCHED!! @kumkeejjl $10 donation / 85 BC MATCHED!! KrzysiekJ 0.0571 BTC donation MATCHED!! CryptoPlankton 100 BC donation MATCHED!! flare_one 1,000 BC donation - MATCHED!! kilaarss 100 BC donation - MATCHED!! germsite 2,500 BC donation MATCHED!! HankYankell 2,000 BC donation MATCHED!! Hushpuppy 100 BC donation MATCHED!! Marco 100 BC donation MATCHED!! keshuker 1,000 BC donation MATCHED!! jarheadjred 100 BC donation MATCHED!! Gduppy 300 BC donation MATCHED!!Approx $2,220 MATCHED to $4,440 so far! KEEP IT COMING!!! Let's do this!!Come on guys - BlackCoin needs YOU! Let's take BlackCoin to the TOP! First coin with Professional Marketing - 90 day campaign! |
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IE
Thank you for proving me right.
You refuse to acknowledge your errors even when they are there for all to see (havent you got it yet? this one is killing you softly.....)
The only element of my post you pick up is to refute refunds.... which funnily enough, you still refuse to address as well. I'm seeing a pattern here and so are "the people" ... (killing you softly.....)
so, once again, thanks for validating my post by your refusal to answer (btw, answering now has lost impact as youve had to be goaded into it....
So, MrCoins.... that EPIC fund raiser you were doing.... tell me the details again.
I feel the need for a good read.
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Iconic Expert
You have outright libelled me. You have no responded to my post as you clearly know I am right.
You have repeatedly refused to answer or acknowledge requests for refunds.
Do you not see that not only have you hung yourself but your persistent refusal to answer even the simplest of questions now undermines you. YOU have lost too much ground now.
You've made numerous and baseless accusations that, in some cases, are now being persued legally (I'd watch your mailbox on that one). When will you actually see that no amount of tall red text or shouting is going to repair your position. You're done here. Really. It's over.
Refund people the money they want back that they paid you in good faith. I suspect though this may cost you as you have openly admitted that (contrary to good practise) you liquidate funds every few days.... bad move.... and highly untrustworthy. IN fact your managment of other peoples money is at best questionable and I would hazard a guess the IRS would be very interested in your arrangements.
For a self proclaimed business man I have never, in all the 32 years I have been a working professional, ever witnessed such an epic display of unprofessional like behaviour. This behaviour of yours alone should make anyone thinking of giving you money think twice. You show that you should not be trusted.
So, in closing, stop and stop now. You have lost all face to those that had time for you as well as those that hadn't. It's over, you're done.
The business of Blackcoin will thrive far better without you.
And I'll say this to all that do have money tied up here in Blackcoin, the best is yet to come.
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IconicExpert Now i hate you.you are breaking blackcoin community. I want my money refund part of your donation to the project.
This is your toxic legacy IE. Lies and Libel make people walk.... You have managed to destroy all the good faith you had built up. Even your friends can see you have gone too far this time. And yet, in the last throes of your anger you grasp at straws and make even wilder accusations. Stop, its already too late but can you not see the hole getting deeper each time you write or speak? There are some people you can piss off and they will laugh. There are some you can piss off and they will cry. Then there are those you piss off who wont take it lying down. Times up buddy. Its gone legal, you lose. |
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The Group Behind The Daily Dumping
veritasBS, colinfx, TheBlackDogeOfWallStreet, morituri13, Soepkip, Gritt, and vizique
Shit like this makes me totally lose faith in humanity. Anyone who wants to see my MintPal trade log will see only buying on dips for last 3 weeks just like I tweet. Not a single sell. I feel deflated, am working to help this coin and now just get attacked like that. Just deflated. Please dont feel like that. You have been one of the true believers and supporters of this coin. YOU have bene the man with funds, you havent asked the community as others have. You have been a rock in a storm. Keep the faithoas others will see you for what you really are. Their business angel not their demon. |
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LIBEL AND LIES
Congratulations on making a complete fool of yourself..... I have never been a dumper, have never held the funds to dump (29k coins is not huge btw) and am never been of a mind to dump even when thigs were bad. I have howver regularly contributed to schemes and ideas that push the coin forward, yes , even with my meager funds ..... so, your accusation is somewhat offensive. Now, as you have decided to blatantly lie to the public and attempt to"call me out" with your lies I strongly recommned you retract your statement. You have commited Libel, which I believe is still a criminal offense in your country, consider this as you smile in satisfaction to yourself at a job (badly) done. What you have said about others I will leave to them to defend. In the mean time... consider your legal position as I am now talking to my solicitor. You have grieved me and libelled me and I intend to make this right. This time you lost the plot and forgot your self.... this time you made it personal and by deed did so in a criminal manner. You have made many mistakes but this stands out as your most spectacular yet. I'm nearly of a mind to applaud you if it wasnt for the blatant lies you have proffered as truth. This stops NOW! |
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This is a working draft of a press release intended to be distributed by the Blackcoin Community. It has already been edited based on some proofreading comments as well a new information that has become available, which may have introduced new proofreading error.
Blackcoin has two outstanding features.
Blackcoin is 6 times faster than Bitcoin and requires at least an order of magnitude less additional electricity to run. Its blazing speed makes it more suitable for brick and mortar merchant. Its cooperatively produced blockchain ledger pages make it the environmentally friendly alternative to the renewable energy gobbling Bitcoin.
Blackcoin has 1 minute block times with 10 confirmations recommended for certainty resulting in a 10 minute maximum waiting time for large transactions. In contrast, Bitcoin has 10 minute block times with 6 confirmations recommended resulting in a 1 hour waiting time. This makes Blackcoin 6 times faster than Bitcoin. As more brick and mortar merchants throughout the worlds develop confidence in crypto currencies, the fear of a massive worldwide crypto scams will hopefully fade and these technical details will become less relevant.
However, what is important to brick and mortar merchants as well as restaurants is the actual transaction time experienced in cryptospace. These are compared among the top ranking coins and reported graphically over time on bitinfocharts.com. The Blackcoin average rate has now dropped down to near the theoretical minimum of 30 seconds with a 1 minute block time target. Of course, the actual average block time does not necessarily track the design value. This also has to be actually be measured in practice. Based on these results, some will experience a transaction time around 1 second and others will be delayed 1 minute or more. The chance of experiencing any one time between 0 and 60 seconds should be equal for any one transaction.
The electrical consumption required to maintain Bitcoin’s current security is gobbling up irreplaceable, renewable-energy resources in areas where they provide the less expensive options bar none. A recent study cited in the Wall Street Journal shows that the hash rate required for Bitcoin’s security last fall was one sixtieth (1 / 60) of what it is now. This hash rate inflation has been fueled by the tremendous profitability of large scale corporate mining operations and the mining technology explosion.
The largest known corporate Bitcoin mining operation is reported to be housed in a warehouse in Central Washington State where it can take advantage of the US’s lowest electricity rates bar none. The Spokane Review recently reported that a handful of additional competitors are about to pop up.
The New York Times reported on a similar setup in Iceland, which may have the least expensive electricity of any country in the world. It is powered by hydro and geothermal resources. This trend will continue as the Bitcoin mining technology improves at breakneck speed driven by the profitability resulting from the squandering of these irreplaceable resources. This will continue until the environmental community wakes up and learns about Blackcoin, the green coin, after it makes its Wall Street debut.
These corporate mining operations compete against each other for the right to enter the next ledger page into the blockchain about every 10 minutes. The startups that produce the otherwise useless mining equipment are forced to make outrageous claims for their latest drawing board designs to get preorder payments to finance their production as has been well documented by CoinDesk in numerous articles. Are we about to repeat the environmental disasters that followed the 1849 California Gold Rush and the Spindletop oil gusher?
Blackcoin was formed by the marriage of Satoshi Nakamoto’s blockchain with Sunny King’s proven Proof of Stake (PoS) source code. This allows existing, multitasking computers like desktops and even laptop owned by Blackcoin stakeholders to cooperatively produce the next ledger page for its blockchain about every 1 minute. Thus, the additional amount of electricity required to maintain Blackcoin consists of what is required to run those computers that are online at any one time to maintain the blockchain when they would otherwise be off the grid.
Sunny King produced Peercoin as the first hybrid PoW/PoS coin in 2011. Bitcoin exclusively uses the PoW (Proof of Work) system, while Blackcoin has already finished its initial PoW phase. Since Peercoin was launched many exclusive PoS coins have successfully tested Sunny King’s source code.
What these other PoS coins all lack is the killer application recently featured on CoinDesk that will facilitate the wider adoption of crypto currencies.by the less digitally informed. This invention puts everything needed onto a plug and play Black Card Wallet implemented on a USB stick. Plug it in and everything pops up on your screen, and off you go into cryptospace. It is the best advancement in cryptospace since the launch of Dogecoin.
The Black Card Wallet will make its Wall Street debut in late May when 50 beautiful ladies will parade through the financial district giving out Black Card Wallets and a fact sheets.
More information on Blackcoin can be found on its official website, the Blackcoin Forum, and especially on its subreddit, where informed members of the our community will answer your written question
A press release eh? Is this going to New Scientist? If not, its too long and too geeky. I had not thought about New Scientist. Valarmor on r/blackcoin said it is unfocused. It covers what IMO are the two main features of BC. I suggested to him that it could be ripped in two. He said he would try to rewrite it. If it were ripped into two one could be geeky and one focused on the environmentalists. The two shorter press released could then be targeted by PR Newswire to the the two lists for the two subjects. Thanks for noticing it. No problem and happy to help. I would agree that perhaps a split would be useful. One for the Geeks and one for the layman. Having worked in IT for a very long time now I see it far too often where the geeks will babble and the laymen look confused. Condensing information into bites that mean something to the target audience is a real skill. I certainly dont profess to have it and many others dont either. This btw is not a jab at you btw, an observation of the world we live in. So, yes, good work there, just needs tighening up and some brevity, splitting it be two papers rather than one may well achieve it. I'll look foward to the results  |
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Dear BlackCoin Community, I'm blown away by the potential of the upcoming 90 day PR campaign. Our lovely coin will be catapulted onto the world stage and I firmly believe this will be immensely beneficial to BC. So over the weekend I thought, "what can I do to help BlackCoin?" in addition to my donations to all projects already? Well. I've decided to put all my efforts into assisting with the PR campaign by making FURTHER donations to the cause equal to those raised by the community up to a value of $5,000.I promise to match EVERY donation from now onwards for 24 hours up to a total of $5,000. You can pay in any of the official denominations. For accounting purposes I need you to list your donation transaction ID on reddit, I will then match it 100%. I will be promoting my fund raiser on Reddit, Twitter and BitCoinTalk. Official donation addresses: BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1 Paypal: http://www.blackcoin.co/donate/Tell me about your donation HERE on Reddit, and I will match it: http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24si9s/i_will_match_your_pr_donations_to_5000_for_24/So, please help me reach my target, together we can add $10,000 to the fund raised. If you have already donated (like me) then consider donating AGAIN as I'm going double it for you! Let's get BlackCoin to $1 sooner rather than later!! Let's get this PR campaign underway and prove what an AWESOME COMMUNITY we are! You can find more about the PR campaign here: http://www.blackcoin.co/general/the-next-step-for-blackcoin-hiring-an-pr-agency/Thank you for donations so far guys! Digicidal 500 BC donation MATCHED! svojoe 1.1 BTC donation MATCHED! UdjinM6 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! noerc 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! SunnyIgor 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! ener_bc 1,000 BC donation MATCHED!! JamesR1 200 BC donation MATCHED!! @kumkeejjl $10 donation / 85 BC MATCHED!! Come on guys - BlackCoin needs YOU! Let's take BlackCoin to the TOP! First coin with Professional Marketing - 90 day campaign! I have to say Sir, that you are one outstanding individual that is head and shoulders above so many of us here. You have selflessly supported Blackcoin from the outset, have maintained face throughout all the flak and fire and with grace and dignity are still here encouraging the community to get up and get involved. Add to that the fact that you are putting your REAL $$$ where your mouth is and there can then be no doubt Sir that you are indeed a man of substance, generosity and true heart. You exhibit qualities on this forum that many could do with trying to emulate. I take my hat off to you and Thank You on behalf of all the people that probably wont get to see what a massive positive impact you are having on their world and investment.e to say Sir, you are an outstanding selfless individual |
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This is a working draft of a press release intended to be distributed by the Blackcoin Community. It has already been edited based on some proofreading comments as well a new information that has become available, which may have introduced new proofreading error.
Blackcoin has two outstanding features.
Blackcoin is 6 times faster than Bitcoin and requires at least an order of magnitude less additional electricity to run. Its blazing speed makes it more suitable for brick and mortar merchant. Its cooperatively produced blockchain ledger pages make it the environmentally friendly alternative to the renewable energy gobbling Bitcoin.
Blackcoin has 1 minute block times with 10 confirmations recommended for certainty resulting in a 10 minute maximum waiting time for large transactions. In contrast, Bitcoin has 10 minute block times with 6 confirmations recommended resulting in a 1 hour waiting time. This makes Blackcoin 6 times faster than Bitcoin. As more brick and mortar merchants throughout the worlds develop confidence in crypto currencies, the fear of a massive worldwide crypto scams will hopefully fade and these technical details will become less relevant.
However, what is important to brick and mortar merchants as well as restaurants is the actual transaction time experienced in cryptospace. These are compared among the top ranking coins and reported graphically over time on bitinfocharts.com. The Blackcoin average rate has now dropped down to near the theoretical minimum of 30 seconds with a 1 minute block time target. Of course, the actual average block time does not necessarily track the design value. This also has to be actually be measured in practice. Based on these results, some will experience a transaction time around 1 second and others will be delayed 1 minute or more. The chance of experiencing any one time between 0 and 60 seconds should be equal for any one transaction.
The electrical consumption required to maintain Bitcoin’s current security is gobbling up irreplaceable, renewable-energy resources in areas where they provide the less expensive options bar none. A recent study cited in the Wall Street Journal shows that the hash rate required for Bitcoin’s security last fall was one sixtieth (1 / 60) of what it is now. This hash rate inflation has been fueled by the tremendous profitability of large scale corporate mining operations and the mining technology explosion.
The largest known corporate Bitcoin mining operation is reported to be housed in a warehouse in Central Washington State where it can take advantage of the US’s lowest electricity rates bar none. The Spokane Review recently reported that a handful of additional competitors are about to pop up.
The New York Times reported on a similar setup in Iceland, which may have the least expensive electricity of any country in the world. It is powered by hydro and geothermal resources. This trend will continue as the Bitcoin mining technology improves at breakneck speed driven by the profitability resulting from the squandering of these irreplaceable resources. This will continue until the environmental community wakes up and learns about Blackcoin, the green coin, after it makes its Wall Street debut.
These corporate mining operations compete against each other for the right to enter the next ledger page into the blockchain about every 10 minutes. The startups that produce the otherwise useless mining equipment are forced to make outrageous claims for their latest drawing board designs to get preorder payments to finance their production as has been well documented by CoinDesk in numerous articles. Are we about to repeat the environmental disasters that followed the 1849 California Gold Rush and the Spindletop oil gusher?
Blackcoin was formed by the marriage of Satoshi Nakamoto’s blockchain with Sunny King’s proven Proof of Stake (PoS) source code. This allows existing, multitasking computers like desktops and even laptop owned by Blackcoin stakeholders to cooperatively produce the next ledger page for its blockchain about every 1 minute. Thus, the additional amount of electricity required to maintain Blackcoin consists of what is required to run those computers that are online at any one time to maintain the blockchain when they would otherwise be off the grid.
Sunny King produced Peercoin as the first hybrid PoW/PoS coin in 2011. Bitcoin exclusively uses the PoW (Proof of Work) system, while Blackcoin has already finished its initial PoW phase. Since Peercoin was launched many exclusive PoS coins have successfully tested Sunny King’s source code.
What these other PoS coins all lack is the killer application recently featured on CoinDesk that will facilitate the wider adoption of crypto currencies.by the less digitally informed. This invention puts everything needed onto a plug and play Black Card Wallet implemented on a USB stick. Plug it in and everything pops up on your screen, and off you go into cryptospace. It is the best advancement in cryptospace since the launch of Dogecoin.
The Black Card Wallet will make its Wall Street debut in late May when 50 beautiful ladies will parade through the financial district giving out Black Card Wallets and a fact sheets.
More information on Blackcoin can be found on its official website, the Blackcoin Forum, and especially on its subreddit, where informed members of the our community will answer your written question
A press release eh? Is this going to New Scientist? If not, its too long and too geeky. |
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I think blackcoin marketing is superior to other alt coins except doge.
You aint seen nothing yet....  Expect! |
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Dear BlackCoin Community, I'm blown away by the potential of the upcoming 90 day PR campaign. Our lovely coin will be catapulted onto the world stage and I firmly believe this will be immensely beneficial to BC. So over the weekend I thought, "what can I do to help BlackCoin?" in addition to my donations to all projects already? Well. I've decided to put all my efforts into assisting with the PR campaign by making FURTHER donations to the cause equal to those raised by the community up to a value of $5,000.I promise to match EVERY donation from now onwards for 24 hours up to a total of $5,000. You can pay in any of the official denominations. For accounting purposes I need you to list your donation transaction ID on reddit, I will then match it 100%. I will be promoting my fund raiser on Reddit, Twitter and BitCoinTalk. Official donation addresses: BC: BTfqh99d8DcKWrd4hFYLR7D2bAYDdAKV3Q BTC: 1MAGvdGMCAaJysMBgA5uFRBUFQ25AkUWQV LTC: LSGPviYMYmgF2RiXVuXG1U4iVz3drk3JvR Doge: DNkmhknWWx6ogrHaTy9X2SLft9ouwhCNs1 Paypal: http://www.blackcoin.co/donate/Tell me about your donation HERE on Reddit, and I will match it: http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24si9s/i_will_match_your_pr_donations_to_5000_for_24/So, please help me reach my target, together we can add $10,000 to the fund raised. If you have already donated (like me) then consider donating AGAIN as I'm going double it for you! Let's get BlackCoin to $1 sooner rather than later!! Let's get this PR campaign underway and prove what an AWESOME COMMUNITY we are! You can find more about the PR campaign here: http://www.blackcoin.co/general/the-next-step-for-blackcoin-hiring-an-pr-agency/Thank you for donations so far guys! Digicidal 500 BC donation MATCHED! svojoe 1.1 BTC donation MATCHED! UdjinM6 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! noerc 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! SunnyIgor 1,000 BC donation MATCHED! ener_bc 1,000 BC donation MATCHED!! Come on guys - make me PAY UP MORE!!! Let's take BlackCoin to the TOP! First coin with Professional Marketing - 90 day campaign! [/quote] |
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I've said this many times before on there, your multipool is an accomplishment and done something, you guys get credit for this, but again and again does it matter if it's not marketed? This game of cryptos is about 95% marketing right now, and 5% projects. Those projects will only pay off when the marketing is done on them or over time. You guys don't get this, and I don't expect you to.
5% of your hard working efforts will only be noticed. You need to grasp that when your working on projects. Only once BC becomes LTC status of BTC status will your hard work have paid off and be noticed. It will be in time, but as of now it's about development that will take BC to next level, it's about marketing. We need both, and I commend you guys on this part, but your not businessmen and please stop this foundation, you'll kill this coin. A note about Marketing for a moment
People are just crying MARKET MARKET MARKET, because they have no long term vision. 95% of people in crypto only care about the short term. Everyone goes on about market this and that, but if the infrastructure isn't in place to promote, then it's pointless to market anything. If the foundation did a drive to promote the multipool before v2 has been completed, then new miners would just see a WIP and get turned off. You can't just blindly market and expect it to work, it needs the right timing. Does no-one realize this? If the technology behind the coin is not in place, then all the marketing in the world will not matter, because attention will just be brought towards things that are NOT FINISHED. To complete a good marketing campaign you need to make sure that your systems are strong enough to support the attention you are going to receive. Right now our core markets are A) Crypto enthusiasts b) Miners and c) Forward thinking investors who see a future in Crypto. v2 is very close to being released, it will provide a very strong foundation for Black-coin. It opens up a sleek and attractive and more importantly, unique option to provide to the mining market. It is the most profitable pool out there, which in itself will bring people to it, but when it is finalized it will also be sleek, professional and will offer something NO OTHER POOL OFFERS. People have worked incredibly hard to create something in this multi-pool that will stand it above and beyond anything else that already exists on the market. If you for one minute doubt how important that is to the current Crypto environment, then why has every single copycat coin (and already existing coins) in the last month suddenly panicked themselves into finding a way to integrate Multipool architecture into their coins? I don't see every coin out there create USB cards, but I do see them building Multipools. I'm not trying to attack anyone here, I think any effort to help benefit this coin should be applauded, but I'm fed up with seeing people just clashing heads and down-talking other peoples work. If there is a criticism to be made of EVERYONE, it is that noone right now seems to be considering a long term plan and many questions are simply not being addressed in a unified way. Take a step backIn the last week the team has dealt with a severe DDOS (and put in considerable defenses against these and successfully negated follow up attempts), done the Blackcast to open themselves up to their current core following, prepared the v2 multipool front end, completed the v2 backend and put together a marketing strategy for WHEN EVERYTHING IS COMPLETED and ready to cope with external pressure. Blindly screaming MARKET MARKET MARKET will do more harm than good. Going to Wall Street and having the worlds attention turned to Blackcoin whilst many of the underlying areas are still being heavily worked on will simply apply too much pressure to areas that are already under stress. Give people a fucking break, let them finish the considerable work they are doing and be patient. Has anyone out there actually considered the harm that one big Wall Street Whale could do to Blackcoin? After the dump from 90k people were ready to kill themselves out of depression all over IRC and these forums. That is but a tiny fraction of what could happen if we open the market up to people that could abuse and manipulate our coin for their own benefit in a short period of time. Our market cap is CHUMP CHANGE, for some people out there in the financial world, think about that for a moment, before your eyes fill with dollar signs. Not only that, they know how to play people like us much better than we know how to play them. Part of marketing is thinking about the potential ramifications for the strategies you are putting in place, so let me ask a few questions for a moment. 1. Why are we targeting Wall Street? 2. Who is our target audience? Is it the world, is it the press, is it market traders? 3. What is our mission in attracting these people? Are we looking for patronage? etc etc Everyone wants this coin to be a 'Luxury coin' but answer these: 1. What luxury goods can you actually buy with it? 2. Are these markets unique to Blackcoin? I.E If you can buy them with Bitcoin, what seperate Blackcoin aside from words? I see a lot of blind yes men in this thread simply agree with things for the sake of believing that a) All marketing will be beneficial for the coin and b) that there is simply no need for timing. We can believe and make videos about Blackcoin being 'Luxury' all we want, but if you can't buy shit with it, then it's all just bullshit and people will see through it in seconds. You cannot market Blackcoin as a Luxury coin right now if there is zero infrastructure to back up that claim. It's simple. When we have deals with Lambourghini and Rolex allowing people to purchase their goods with Blackcoin, THEN, we can talk about marketing the coin to the wider public as a luxury, but until then, stop talking about it. What we have is different to a product, we are not selling a consumable, we are selling a means to purchase consumables. In that respect you cannot just drum up a campaign to convince people they want Blackcoin, especially if that campaign is based around using it for something that physically doesn't exist. Focus attention in the right areas and focus on the brand of the coin first and foremost. Timing is -everything-Look at our rise to 90k, why did that happen? Because multiple factors all came together at exactly the right time. We had the convention, where the Blackcoin Foundation were present, we had the Black Friday, we had the Wall Street investment and we had the timing to be the first PoS coin to really grab the crypto worlds attention. All of those together turned that weekend into a frenzy of BC buying power. Why didn't the rise continue? Because it reached a point where the fundamental development and infrastructure of the coin could not support the hype. Fast forward a month and we have people going crazy over marketing simply because they want some cash. Has anything really changed? Do we have the infrastructure to support such a rise? I would argue we definitely do not right now and that until Coinkite hits, we are still in exactly the same situation. Who knows what Coinkite will do? It might be incredible, it might not be, but until Blackcoin has a place in everyday society the mass public are not going to adopt it. Most people still don't even know about Bitcoin yet and it has only been in the last few weeks that I have been seeing "Bitcoin for dummies" videos over the local news channels (BBC etc). Right now our target audience should be miners and the crypto enthusiasts. Build upon that solid foundation, first convince the crypto world that Blackcoin is the coin that sets itself apart from the other alt coins and then once they have been won over we can worry about the wider world. Stop trying to rush things, stop trying to convince everyone that screaming to the roof tops will do more good than harm when the social infrastructure for this coin is simply not ready to be accepted into everyday life. Not even Bitcoin has achieved that, so how can we expect to? We can build towards it, we can begin to work out how it might happen, but if we just scream to anyone that will listen, their first impressions of this coin is going to simply be "Well what is the point? How do I use it?" From that standpoint, we need a PR team to help us with out ambitions, because I don't see logistics being answered, or even considered anywhere. Everyone is two steps ahead of where they should be. You can't force people to adopt blackcoin by ramming it down their throats, you need to be clever and have a clear plan that matches the social and technological progress of the product. My two cents. -Arigard. Without question, this is one of the best posts in this thread. Balanced, thoughful and reasoned case put forward that is pretty much incontravertible. As one of those who will be taking Coinkite out there, I'm clear that the target customers for me will be people will barely know Bitcoin let alone Blackcoin. Your point of Blackcoin requiring development in so many areas is well made and highlights just how much work there is to do in ALL areas, front and back of house. Thank you for a good read and a reminder of just what it is we all should be thinking and working on. |
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Have to say, I do agree with this. |
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