[ANN] Blacknet BLN | Staking | Future of zApp & ZeFi

[Arigard]

It's not there age it's there lack of experience. Not all are bad, and many do try to help, but the maturity level in IRC is very young, that is without a doubt. If you don't believe me people, go see for yourself how who the foundation is talking with. They bots that show boobs, if that is any indication of the maturity level there.

But you have no idea what experience they have, or do not have. You are just pulling statements out of thin air.

And who doesn't like !boobs?

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[blade87]

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We're not here to own BlackCoin. We're just a group of people who have a lot of BlackCoin. And because of that, we are trying to pool together to fund projects like the PR campaign, because together we have the funds and capability to do it. The community can still contribute - we need all the help we can get. Or they can even come up with ideas of their own. If you have one and you are really legitimate are about pursuing it but may need some financial help - post it!.

In time you will realize this is the way to go, because separate we are weak, but together we are strong. A lot of stuff that has happened for BC like CoinKite and the PR campaign now has happened because this group of investors have been able to develop trust between each other that each and every one of us is here for the long term and willing to help this coin. And then you still have big community funded projects like Wall Street on top of it! Me personally, I have no idea if I'd still be here today contributing as much as I am if this group had never formed.

I love the community, but you can't expect the community alone to be able to fund huge projects non-stop like this in crypto land where sitting back and taking a break can be very unforgiving (see MINT). But at the same time, you can't expect the investors to do literally everything. It has to be a mutual relationship. Help me help you, so that you can once again help me, so that I can again help you - a never ending positive feedback cycle in which you will eventually get back a lot more than you gave up. That is the goal of the BlackCoin investors. That is how we, together, everyone in this community, are going to take BlackCoin to the top.

With that said, I'll be donating to IE's WS project when I get home later today.

[fayoling]

New Blackcoin Lottery Twitter Bot will be released in a few days.

This will be a fully automated bot similar to @tipblk and @blackcoinmarket.

It's functionality, pool and prizes are all very similar to Lotto 6/49

Commands will be simple to use: Tweet " @blklottery buy ticket, jackpot, withdraw, balance etc...

I am hoping to keep most of this conversation on Reddit as it is easier for me to follow, and I am trying to get used to Reddit for the next bot build. So please visit my post there with any questions or suggestions.

http://www.reddit.com/r/blackcoin/comments/24tfj3/new_twitter_bot_that_automates_a_blackcoin/

I know it is not much in comparison to some of the other things going on, but I can build bots, and we all know how well a good lottery can do for "spreading the word". So I am going to keep building these bots until there are no more bot ideas to build, or the community gives me a better task Until than, let me know what you think of this concept.

[UdjinM6]

I really like the way discussion goes now - calm and respectful. Let's try to keep it that way.

And another 1000 BC is sent to IE WS project to keep my donations balanced between two main projects that's happening now 
http://blkchain.info/tx/99fed372fd87861d8993a1d168acfe5806b174a28dc253ca70f60233df26c48d-000

[RSchexnayder]

This is a working draft of a press release intended to be distributed by the Blackcoin Community. It has already been edited based on some proofreading comments as well a new information that has become available, which may have introduced new proofreading error.

Blackcoin has two outstanding features.

Blackcoin is 6 times faster than Bitcoin and requires at least an order of magnitude less additional electricity to run. Its blazing speed makes it more suitable for brick and mortar merchant. Its cooperatively produced blockchain ledger pages make it the environmentally friendly alternative to the renewable energy gobbling Bitcoin.

Blackcoin has 1 minute block times with 10 confirmations recommended for certainty resulting in a 10 minute maximum waiting time for large transactions. In contrast, Bitcoin has 10 minute block times with 6 confirmations recommended resulting in a 1 hour waiting time. This makes Blackcoin 6 times faster than Bitcoin. As more brick and mortar merchants throughout the worlds develop confidence in crypto currencies, the fear of a massive worldwide crypto scams will hopefully fade and these technical details will become less relevant.

However, what is important to brick and mortar merchants as well as restaurants is the actual transaction time experienced in cryptospace. These are compared among the top ranking coins and reported graphically over time on bitinfocharts.com. The Blackcoin average rate has now dropped down to near the theoretical minimum of 30 seconds with a 1 minute block time target. Of course, the actual average block time does not necessarily track the design value. This also has to be actually be measured in practice. Based on these results, some will experience a transaction time around 1 second and others will be delayed 1 minute or more. The chance of experiencing any one time between 0 and 60 seconds should be equal for any one transaction. 

The electrical consumption required to maintain Bitcoin’s current security is gobbling up irreplaceable, renewable-energy resources in areas where they provide the less expensive options bar none. A recent study cited in the Wall Street Journal shows that the hash rate required for Bitcoin’s security last fall was one sixtieth (1 / 60) of what it is now. This hash rate inflation has been fueled by the tremendous profitability of large scale corporate mining operations and the mining technology explosion.

The largest known corporate Bitcoin mining operation is reported to be housed in a warehouse in Central Washington State where it can take advantage of the US’s lowest electricity rates bar none. The Spokane Review recently reported that a handful of additional competitors are about to pop up.

The New York Times reported on a similar setup in Iceland, which may have the least expensive electricity of any country in the world. It is powered by hydro and geothermal resources. This trend will continue as the Bitcoin mining technology improves at breakneck speed driven by the profitability resulting from the squandering of these irreplaceable resources. This will continue until the environmental community wakes up and learns about Blackcoin, the green coin, after it makes its Wall Street debut.  

These corporate mining operations compete against each other for the right to enter the next ledger page into the blockchain about every 10 minutes. The startups that produce the otherwise useless mining equipment are forced to make outrageous claims for their latest drawing board designs to get preorder payments to finance their production as has been well documented by CoinDesk in numerous articles. Are we about to repeat the environmental disasters that followed the 1849 California Gold Rush and the Spindletop oil gusher?

Blackcoin was formed by the marriage of Satoshi Nakamoto’s blockchain with Sunny King’s proven Proof of Stake (PoS) source code. This allows existing, multitasking computers like desktops and even laptop owned by Blackcoin stakeholders to cooperatively produce the next ledger page for its blockchain about every 1 minute. Thus, the additional amount of electricity required to maintain Blackcoin consists of what is required to run those computers that are online at any one time to maintain the blockchain when they would otherwise be off the grid.

Sunny King produced Peercoin as the first hybrid PoW/PoS coin in 2011. Bitcoin exclusively uses the PoW (Proof of Work) system, while Blackcoin has already finished its initial PoW phase. Since Peercoin was launched many exclusive PoS coins have successfully tested Sunny King’s source code.  

What these other PoS coins all lack is the killer application recently featured on CoinDesk that will facilitate the wider adoption of crypto currencies.by the less digitally informed. This invention puts everything needed onto a plug and play Black Card Wallet implemented on a USB stick. Plug it in and everything pops up on your screen, and off you go into cryptospace. It is the best advancement in cryptospace since the launch of Dogecoin.    

The Black Card Wallet will make its Wall Street debut in late May when 50 beautiful ladies will parade through the financial district giving out Black Card Wallets and a fact sheets.

More information on Blackcoin can be found on its official website, the Blackcoin Forum, and especially on its subreddit, where informed members of the our community will answer your written question

[IconicExpert]

I really like the way discussion goes now - calm and respectful. Let's try to keep it that way.

And another 1000 BC is sent to IE WS project to keep my donations balanced between two main projects that's happening now 
http://blkchain.info/tx/99fed372fd87861d8993a1d168acfe5806b174a28dc253ca70f60233df26c48d-000

TY for your support...

[digicidal]

... it's not gonna happen on our watch.

It has already happened.

Well, then you can expect me and others to keep pointing out the problems with foundations, and your lack of transparcey to the point i"ll hurt my own investment, cause it's not what cryptos are about. You kids have NO right to be doing what your doing. I hope investors here understand this foundation is made up of mostly kids, with little to no real world experience in running a business.

Caught a break for a few... had to comment on this...

Have you ever seen the demographics for crypto currency adoption?!?!  It is almost exclusively made up of 20-30 year old males who work in or at the very least are heavily involved in technology.  You know... LAN parties, dope smoking, porn-viewing, college students... the same demographic that founded most Internet start-ups initially, the same demographic that is most heavily represented in crowd-sourced inventions and open source software development.

I'm an "old guy" by these standards, and those days are mostly behind me - but as someone involved in tech all my life, and as someone who now has enough money to 'play the long shot' on some incredibly risky investments like crypto currencies... it comes with the territory.

BlackCoin is barely past the point where 95/100 crypto coins fail completely and become worthless - and that's not even including the ones that were completely a scam from the very beginning!  If you want something with more transparency, maturity and a history of positive dividends... I recommend municipal bonds.  Everyone involved will be older, slower, and will only admit to their love of 'boobs' when their affair triggers a press conference before they resign from office.

But cryptos are what they are - something that very often falls apart, often leads to scams, often loses it's way... but occasionally produces 10,000% gains for the few that held on long enough and help push things forward.  But if you want coins only run by and created by 'mature businessmen' - then you need to stick with BTC, LTC, MINT, etc... and you need to accept the fact that while they might be more 'stable' - that doesn't make them more profitable.

I appreciate your concerns - but the "image" of the group is not the problem (transparency might be, but I'm willing to give them more than a fkin' week to deliver on that).  We can revisit the issue at that point in time. 

[drTEntacle]

Since I am not native English speaker I didn't want to be the one to create it, but there it is...

BlackCoin Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/BlackCoin

I've added basic overview and spend quite some time creating that infobox on the right (you have to use template or meta-template for that). Everyone honestly willing to help is welcomed.

Up to the moment we'll consider it finished it will reside in Articles For Creation - a protected section where it is not subject of review. Then we'll move it to the official section where it will undergo editor's review and control it meets Wikipedia standards.

Moreover I came across a few problems:

• where are public domain BlackCoin images?
• and info about their creator (so they can be publicly shared on Wikipedia)
• where is ANY condensed info about the coin? (creators, scientific papers, specifications etc.)
• where is the list of newspaper articles we can use as references

In case our wikipage would meet someone with the lack of the good will, there is a wiki source backup at Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/R1Wp4ss5

ZlyMartin / DrTentacle

[MinermanNC]

Its like anything else. We all want to know and see how are money (BC) is being spent, the old "who what where when and how" question. Sorta like we all want to know how our tax money is being spent? instead of wasted on useless causes.... I appreciate seeing so many willing and others being more then generous in here but it sure would help some, if there was some type of disclosure/ledger and business plan of how the funds will be allocated and by who... ok, just simple business mind

[jamieb81]

... it's not gonna happen on our watch.

It has already happened.

Well, then you can expect me and others to keep pointing out the problems with foundations, and your lack of transparcey to the point i"ll hurt my own investment, cause it's not what cryptos are about. You kids have NO right to be doing what your doing. I hope investors here understand this foundation is made up of mostly kids, with little to no real world experience in running a business.

Caught a break for a few... had to comment on this...

Have you ever seen the demographics for crypto currency adoption?!?!  It is almost exclusively made up of 20-30 year old males who work in or at the very least are heavily involved in technology.  You know... LAN parties, dope smoking, porn-viewing, college students... the same demographic that founded most Internet start-ups initially, the same demographic that is most heavily represented in crowd-sourced inventions and open source software development.

I'm an "old guy" by these standards, and those days are mostly behind me - but as someone involved in tech all my life, and as someone who now has enough money to 'play the long shot' on some incredibly risky investments like crypto currencies... it comes with the territory.

BlackCoin is barely past the point where 95/100 crypto coins fail completely and become worthless - and that's not even including the ones that were completely a scam from the very beginning!  If you want something with more transparency, maturity and a history of positive dividends... I recommend municipal bonds.  Everyone involved will be older, slower, and will only admit to their love of 'boobs' when their affair triggers a press conference before they resign from office.

But cryptos are what they are - something that very often falls apart, often leads to scams, often loses it's way... but occasionally produces 10,000% gains for the few that held on long enough and help push things forward.  But if you want coins only run by and created by 'mature businessmen' - then you need to stick with BTC, LTC, MINT, etc... and you need to accept the fact that while they might be more 'stable' - that doesn't make them more profitable.

I appreciate your concerns - but the "image" of the group is not the problem (transparency might be, but I'm willing to give them more than a fkin' week to deliver on that).  We can revisit the issue at that point in time. 

Yeah well the great man that started it all ( btc) was certainly not some little gamer behind his pc smoking pot.

and He would certainly not have envisioned some spoiled brats to take over this whole thing..

[morituri13]

Jamieb that is offensive. Why resort to that? I have worked for everything I have in life.

[jamieb81]

Jamieb that is offensive. Why resort to that? I have worked for everything I have in life.

It was not pointed out at you

[brammien]

It's not there age it's there lack of experience. Not all are bad, and many do try to help, but the maturity level in IRC is very young, that is without a doubt. If you don't believe me people, go see for yourself how who the foundation is talking with. They bots that show boobs, if that is any indication of the maturity level there.

But you have no idea what experience they have, or do not have. You are just pulling statements out of thin air.

And who doesn't like !boobs?

Where is soekip in all this? I've asked him publicly to tell us whom runs the twitter and facebook accounts. He's ignored this. That's not transparent. I'm still waiting and we all are. Who runs the social media in the name of the foundation?

It's time to hand over keys soekip if you are part of foundation and part of official face of BC. You can't have it both ways, and I want you to know foundation, i will not stop or let up til we are transparent and open about this. SO trust, I'll be willing to hurt my own investment in BC just to bring down the coup of this coin taking place, and if that tanks the prices, so be it. I'm into cryptos for not just $$$, but the ramification it has for changing the finanical world, and BC could do this. I won't let a small group of foundation investors members pawn off they are not different than the official coin, representing it as if they are.

Down with the foundation, or I'll be that thorn in your side asking the hard questions as new investors keep coming on board, I'll educate them, even in PM if need be. I'll not rest til you guys come forth with what you are doing, and trying to do with this coup. trust, trust.

[UdjinM6]

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The New York Times reported on a similar setup in Iceland, which may have the least expensive electricity of any country in the world. It is powered by hydro and geothermal resources. This trend will continue as the Bitcoin mining technology improves at breakneck speed driven by the profitability resulting from the squandering of these irreplaceable resources. This will continue until the environmental community wakes up and learns about Blackcoin, the green coin, after it makes its Wall Street debut. 

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The Black Card Wallet will make its Wall Street debut in late May when 2000 50 beautiful ladies will parade through the financial district giving out Black Card Wallets and a fact sheets.

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- It has been already said before that "Blackcoin is green coin" sounds confusing.
- 2000 girls.... well.... maybe sometimes 
I'm not a native speaker but I think some other parts and the whole structure could be polished a bit too.
But anyway, thanks for your efforts

[01001011]

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Blackcoin, the green coin,
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- It has been already said before that "Blackcoin is green coin" sounds confusing.

"Although it's BlackCoin, it does not burn coal neither oil."

[jamieb81]

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Blackcoin, the green coin,
.......

- It has been already said before that "Blackcoin is green coin" sounds confusing.

"Although it's BlackCoin, it does not burn coal neither oil."

you just burnt a little piece of coal by writing that with your pc on :p

[brammien]

Jamieb that is offensive. Why resort to that? I have worked for everything I have in life.

Okay, so who are you anyways than someone in IRC? What is your position in this foundation? What do plan on doing in this hostile takeover of blackcoin representation of the coin? The coup? What is your place in this, Himmler?

I never hear any that have taken over with this foundation addressing any concerns listed by community. There don't deserve a weeks time, there deserve like few hours, since it was a hostile takeover, and they self elected themselves to be the official image of BC.

So no, they don't deserve any time. As for smoking pot, cussing, being immature, not a concern of mine as long as they keep it proffesional. These are millions of dollars at stake, many people investing lots of money.

Imagine you invested in a company and the engineering department kicked out the CEO, and told the shareholds, too bad, we are boss now. This is basically what happened here, without having a CEO, but you get the point.

Why anyone here would defend this behavior, is beyond me. Did I say again the are responsible for representing millions of dollars worth of investments by there own accord.

Soekip, are you gonna speak up or what?

[ATCkit]

Ya something like contact info is more important.  

How do i contact anyone at BlackCoin or BlackCoin Pool for support?


For ex: on the pool "a payout that's been stuck in"pending" status for several days now?"

Is there an email address or phone number?

 When i try sending an email (ie: info@blackcoinpool.com or support @blackcoinpool.com), i simply get undeliverable messages.

there is nothing upfront or evident..... except for mentioning IRC

why would i want to go  an IRC to ask for help with my account? IRC is not confidential for my personal business......and not user friendly for a first time user like me. LOL- I can't even get in on the chat  on that weird thing.

Quote from: calme on Today at 06:11:53 PM
I hope people will be more friendly soon. And I do like the organized efforts at increasing BC's value and am glad such things are being done. Exciting stuff. But my main concern--which is undoubtedly a typical concern--is the potential for groups to collectively bully downward pressure for the sake of accumulation while keeping other investors in the dark.



very true...but when you can't even reach out to anyone on the Pool to ask a simple question to resolve an issue, it's a problem.  I love the concept and everything i ma reading...but i can't get any support. It's just  one way communication. Back to basics please _eg: customer (miner) support.

If this can't happen, then i have no choice but to point my miners somewhere else.

Ok...so no one else knows how to contact someone at BlackCoin Pool  either...or there would have been a quick reply on such a simple thing.

I have pointed my miners elsewhere now.

As it has been stuck for so long, I am just gonna have to assume that my second payout out of 7 is lost and no one at BlackPool can look into it for me as i can't contact them about it.

will keeping checking the site to see if there is some contact info tho.

irc twitter

Sorry but that does not help me.

No use in  mining at BlackPool until they enable something that allows you to contact them directly. That is a very common feature on websites in general.

I have to assume that i have lost my second payout out of 7 over the past week and just move onto another place to mine.

Thx for trying to help tho

If you do not chase your own coins, no one else is going to do it for you.

Sure, you're right to ask for an easier solution to contact the individuals in charge of the pool; communication channels must be available. But it makes absolutely no sense for you to rule out the option to get in touch (the only one available at this point, it seems) and choose to give up on your coins instead. If that is the case, then you really should not be complaining for not getting your payout now; it is a deliberate choice on your behalf, after all.

LOL that knocks me off my chair.  Listen i am not ruling out any existing option. They are not viable tools for me ( and anyone of my generation) at all.

1. What little i know about Twitter is that it's just a one way communication thing for people to post company updates and individuals ( eg:  Musicians etc.) who like posting their activities. Despite signing up for a notification, Twitter does not even send an email to let you know that someone you are following has posted something. Unlike FB, I have never seen any readily apparent way of having a two way "private conversation" with an individual representing the entity that i am following.

 2. IRC... never even heard of it before I used BlackCoin Pool for the first time. there's not even a chat window to input your question or query..... and it's an open forum. so, even if i could post there, the forum has no confidentiality at all. LOL it's totally ridiculous way to support anyone that is wanting to use your service.  

BC is  a serious threat to become number 1 coin.. it appears to me anyway. All the problems we talk outsiders talk about seeing (BC infighting, unwillingness to provide a service window in a normal business way etc.) will lead it to self destruct.

Start with the basics..walk before you run.  No point trying to get to the moon if the engineers don't work with the guys building the parts for the rocket.


Here's a quote from the pool under how it works:

"This pool has been designed to support the long term growth, profitability, and value of Blackcoin. Something to note: It is not possible to mine Blackcoin directly. Instead, this pool aggregates the hashing power of the community to mine other profitable alt coins, and then uses those proceeds to buy Blackcoin...."

So it's not about me chasing my own coins. I imagine a ton of people are saying this:    

I can't help you "support the long term growth, profitability, and value of Blackcoin" by even mining.

In conclusion, before i head off to play with others who want to make something a "win-win" scenario, i am pointing out a basic problem so you can fix it.....while many others say nothing...and simply say: "FFS, i will just run to your competitors."

Yes I know the DDOS attacks have kept the pool's backroom boys on their toes. But you just don't throw up a public website without having a way to support people. Just imagine trying to find some public servant (fire, police, passport office etc.) to help you...,but there is no way of getting in touch with that Public Service. You guys would scream your heads off at the authorities governing your locale or country etc.!!

[Jabulon]

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[MinermanNC]

Unless BC is heavily advertised promoted and actually used to purchase things in a convenient and understandable way, its all just fantasy here and it will wither away like the other 100's of coins that have risen and fallen along the way side. With that said, I am glad to see efforts at least being made to think outside the box". Now there is a strong need for leadership and direction and yes transparency. Its obvious and encouraging to see so many willing to contribute in here. I have never held on to any coins this long even when tempted to sell when there was at least 3 very nice opportunities to do so and make a decent buck. But I am waiting and hoping to see if this community and BC will really be different. The time to shit or get off the pot is approaching, once a coin starts to loose it luster and the nitch it may have had, it will be very hard to bring the interest back. We have all seen this with most other coins. And coinkite is a plus but may not be the BC saving grace or ace in the hole as some would believe? Food for thought.