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2261  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Paypal just bent me over on: October 25, 2012, 12:50:15 AM
Sorry to hear that.

There is nothing fair about it.  It's their website site/service and they can do what ever they want when ever they want.



This Agreement is subject to change by PayPal without prior notice (unless prior notice is required by law), by posting of the revised Agreement on the PayPal website.

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=p/gen/terms-outside.

2262  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: October 25, 2012, 12:45:27 AM
Thanks BrightAnarchist.

What would be GREAT is if everyone could cull this stuff and all you come across relevent information please post here.

Again we are looking for verified facts.

Name and addresses of business associates.
Past crimes
telephone numbers
email addresses

Anything that can put authorities in touch with Trendon and his  past and present circle of associates.



AGAIN THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO COLLECT A DEBT AND/OR TO BRING TRENDON SHAVERS TO JUSTICE.  AT NO TIME DOES ANY ONE INVOLVED IN THIS EFFORT CONDONE OR APPROVE OF ANY VIOLENT OR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AGAINST TRENDON SHAVERS, HIS FAMILY OR ANY KNOW OR ALLEGED ASSOCIATES.




2263  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD ALERT: Jermainé took my money on: October 25, 2012, 12:34:23 AM
I just HATE scammers.
2264  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD ALERT: Jermainé took my money on: October 25, 2012, 12:14:41 AM
"Digital goods"....I'm planning on including a copy of his message to me about trading for mtgox voucher because it includes his dwolla account number.  Am I supposed to not mention mtgox/bitcoins because they seem sketchy or is that fine?   Also I gave him a call but he didn't pick up so I left him a message.

From dwolla's terms of service
https://www.dwolla.com/tos?nolayout=true

You understand and agree that you will not engage in the following activities:
● Act as a marketplace and/or exchange for virtual currency products without prior written consent;

You tell them Mt. Gox Code and they'll probably tell you you are out of luck.
2265  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD ALERT: Jermainé took my money on: October 24, 2012, 11:33:39 PM
send and email to support

http://help.dwolla.com/customer/portal/emails/new

Then them you purchased digital goods from someone on line and they did't send you the goods.  I think some one else did that and they locked the scammers account.
2266  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] 1 BTC for $12 Paypal USD(verified) on: October 24, 2012, 11:28:32 PM
+1 Zollen

PPUSD --> MT GOX USD CODE
2267  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] 9 BTC for $12 Paypal (Verified) on: October 24, 2012, 10:43:46 PM
He verified with BCB
2268  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] 9 BTC for $12 Paypal (Verified) on: October 24, 2012, 10:38:18 PM
+1 Siturb

Bought BTC at Mt Gox +5% with PPUD

Thanks.

2269  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD ALERT: Jermainé took my money on: October 24, 2012, 09:52:41 PM
That cell phone is registered to

Desha Deslandes
Poughkeepsie
Level 3 Communications LLC - NY

He event denied knowing anyone named Delandes.

hmmmmm.......

Looks like our man.
2270  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find pirateat40 in person thread... on: October 24, 2012, 09:38:41 PM
Repentance.

Thanks for the info.  There is a lot of internet lawyering going on in other threads. The  legalities of this can can be speculated there.

Let's try to keep this thread to facts that we know are true.

Unless there is a securities lawyer trolling here would would like to advise us.  I think we should keep this to a very specific validated information gathering exercise.

Then if the SEC really is or decides to get involved we could then provide more facts about the legalities of any case or suit  they may bring as appropriate.


Thanks.

2271  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD ALERT: Jermainé took my money on: October 24, 2012, 09:10:25 PM
If you are a victim you are welcome to call him.  I have VERY strong evidence that I was speaking to Everton but he denied knowing who Jermaine or Everton where.  When I told him he may be the victim of identify theft and asked him his name so I could cross check it against his number he hung up on me.

He did confirm he was located in poughkeepsie.

So there is no solid proof that it is Jermaine or the guy who sole your money/ it could be a name address mis match/  it could be id theft.

If you call him you please be civil and polite.  You  should tell him your name and explain the situation and that all the evidence points to him. And if he says it is not him. Ask him if he could identify himself so we cross him off our list.
2272  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find pirateat40 in person thread... on: October 24, 2012, 09:04:36 PM
Are the real life identities of all of the PPT operators even known (no need to put their RL identities here, I'm just curious about whether we actually know the identities of the people who hold a lot of evidence)?

Do we even have a list of all the people who attended the Las Vegas meet-up? 

Like it or not, the PPT operators were an integral part of this particular scam and there can be no meaningful investigation of Trendon's ponzi without their activities also being examined.

Good point. 

I don't think that PPT operators are going to cooperate without a full understanding of any legal/tax consequences.    And judging from their comments to  each other on these boards I think the really of any cooperation among man y them is probably nil.  I do think that if a representative among  them steps up that could be very helpful in collecting evidence.   


I know some users/victims who have already commented here  are willing to come forward.  They will have to be then one's to bring any civil action.  I am not a lawyer but if the SEC is interested in investigating this and they get some cooperation form the victims, there is a possiblilty to pursue  criminal penalties, which would probably mean no recovery of funds (others claim he has not provable assets anyway) but as least Trendon would the have been brought to justice and I think for the victims and the community as as whole that would allow from some closure.
 
 
2273  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD ALERT: Jermainé took my money on: October 24, 2012, 08:06:30 PM
What??  That is too weird.  That will take some further investigation.  Thanks.
2274  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAMMER: firstlady0524 on: October 24, 2012, 08:05:00 PM
Did you discuss a repayment plan with her or create one for her.  That might help.  I'll also reach out to her to let her know that it not ok to pay me back at the expense of others just because I've been the most vocal.

2275  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Best way to buy bitcoins with paypal? on: October 24, 2012, 07:41:38 PM
PM to purchase. I do require verification.
2276  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: SCAMMER: firstlady0524 on: October 24, 2012, 06:53:01 PM
No I wouldn't want to find Satoshi.  He didn't do anything wrong.  He prefers to be aynomous so that's cool with me.

Besides, Satoshi Nakamato is probably the handle of the NAS team leader of US/Israeli cryptographers that developed  bitcoin core client.

And if I went snooping around there I'd probably end up with a cyanide dart in my neck.

2277  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find pirateat40 in person thread... on: October 24, 2012, 06:24:38 PM


little man Trendon Shavers on the right
And his brother Ryan on the left

2278  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: FRAUD ALERT: Jermainé took my money on: October 24, 2012, 05:31:01 PM
I not a creditor.  I hope one or more of his creditors did.

Just had a cell phone conversational with Everton.  He know we are on to him.

2279  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTB] 1 BTC for $12 Paypal USD(verified) on: October 24, 2012, 05:20:12 PM
+1 Metta28

Thanks
2280  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... on: October 24, 2012, 05:15:43 PM
Good points repentance

I not sure anyone can compel Trendon to relinquishment the control of the BTC he has remaining.  It will probably all be cashed out and spent by the time any legal proceeding take effect.

Also who has an official record of the creditors and what they are owed?  This does not exist anywhere and I'm sure the PPT's are ALL going to agree to divulge this info to the SEC or other wise.  So event if someone was able to recover $500,000 from pirate, it would be nearly impossible to fairly distribute a pro rata share to all of the legitimate investors.   

Pirate knew this and it was probably part of the plan.  Smart guy.  Master manipulator.  Too bad he couldn't use his powers for good.

Regardless he can't be allowed to walk away from this. 


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