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1481  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PENDING - [SCAMMER - 10 BTC loan ($130)] *name removed* on: January 02, 2013, 11:31:06 AM
Scammers are often not the sharpest pencils in the box. Often they are drug addicts who go on a binge and disappear. Often they are convicted criminals who get incarcerated again and often they are legitimate borrowers who don't have the ability or don't want to repay and decide the easiest person to skip out on is the guy on the internet they never met face to face. But what bitcoin scammers ALWAYS underestimate is the lengths to which bitcoiners will go to track a scammer down and recover funds.
1482  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PENDING - [SCAMMER - 10 BTC loan ($130)] *name removed* on: January 02, 2013, 11:01:19 AM
We should all post to his twitter and Facebook account asking when he is going to pay. Also friend his friends and follow his followers and post about his fraudulent activities. That has been effective in the past.
1483  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Anti-Fraud Team -- Help Wanted on: January 02, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
ATC777
I certainty appreciate your energy and eagerness and enthusiasm however you should spend a little more time reading the forums and getting to know the community before you start making grand plans and claims. And while you have to take some comments with a grain of salt many members mean well and actually know what they are talking about when they contribute to the dialogue. You don't have to agree with all of it but  I do think that as part of a community that highly values freedom of speech you have to try to understand their points.  

Read the scam accusation threads to learn what types of fraud and scams exist and to see what community members are already doing to combat fraud and scams. Join #bitcoin-otc and become a known and trusted member of that community.  And while bitcoin-otc and bitcointalk often act like a bunch of nervous nellies an pounce on noobs who ask uninformed questions and first accuse them all of scamming most of them do mean well.

While is applys more to lending and is not always accurate you should read the "how to spot a scammer" thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=119896.0


Again bitcoin always welcomes new and enthusiastic members. Just try to get to know and understand the community before you try to naively change or improve it.
1484  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: January 02, 2013, 10:21:41 AM
Usagi

WHY is it so hard for you to answer a simple question unless you are hiding something and are attempting to continue to perpetuate your duplicity.

In what country are you located?
1485  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: January 02, 2013, 10:19:31 AM
Stochastic

Good points.
1486  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: user:M4v3R - BitMarket.eu on: January 02, 2013, 09:58:16 AM
The moral of the story is that if you want to operate long term in bitcoin-land you MUST establish TRUST and continue to show that you have INTEGRITY and this can only be demonstrated by you actions and community members response to you actions.

Gavin Andreessen shows this.
Tangible cryptology show this.
Piuk continues to show this.

Roger Veer is on the fence due to some unfortunate missteps
MOE-PR/MP is on the fence due to unfortunate trolling
Usagi is on the ropes due to many bad (and possibly fraudulent) decisions

Trendon Shavers failed to show this
Nefario fails to show this
Patrick Harnett, once well respected, failed to maintain his integrity

If m4v3R had admitted his lapse in judgement and had not lost user funds he could increased his integrity.  However he was forced to admit his lapse in judgement because he could no longer hide the fact he lost user funds.

Bitcoin leaders and business operators must understand that the only way to maintain their credibility is to maintain their TRUST and INTEGRITY in the community. And bitcoin business users and investors MUST evaluate the risk, based on this perceived trust and integrity anytime they entrust their coins with others.

And finally what others my question the value of the scammer threads I for one strongly believe that community must hold other community members accountable for any misdeeds for the good of the community as a whole and to protect the many new users who join bitcoin every day.

I for one prefer to be a part of a vibrant, growing community made up of incredibly smart and talented and passionate members who are together learning to harness the power of an incredible, emerging technology and not part of a community that allows scammers and hackers and duplicitous and fraudulent business operators to run rampant and without check.

Many want freedom, anonymity and no regulation. But we do need self-regulation and right now the only place we can attempt to achieve that are these scammer threads   
1487  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 02, 2013, 09:37:20 AM
We do have proof that Trendon shavers has very actively monitored and I believe continues to moniter these threads.
1488  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: January 02, 2013, 04:26:47 AM
Does anyone else find it highly unusual that none of usagi's shareholders have bothered to weigh in here?
1489  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: January 02, 2013, 04:24:26 AM
Usgai

Why is it that you can sperg pages and pages of useless nonsense but you can not answer a simple question? 
1490  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: January 02, 2013, 04:20:52 AM
Usagi

Could you please confirm that you live in Japan.  

Usagi doesn't live in Japan - he just likes to claim to be a Japanese female.  He's in Republic of China (Taiwan).

Is that in the same time zone as JST?
1491  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: January 02, 2013, 03:33:24 AM
Usagi

Could you please confirm that you live in Japan. 
1492  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 02, 2013, 03:30:23 AM
I just received information that pirate did express an fondness for palladium at the PPT meeting in Las Vegas.  So the info from the skype chat about the hooker and the blow was true or one of the other Vegas participants was trolling me.

1493  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I lost $286,00 USD from "sellbitcoin" - Jeffrey Carlstrom, j.bird.btc@live.com on: January 02, 2013, 02:54:08 AM
I also got scammed by this guy.

I'm hoping PayPal will give me my money back.

Payment was to j.bird.btc@live.com, and I "bought" 6 BFL singles from him for a total of $2900.

When did that happen??
1494  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: January 02, 2013, 02:41:25 AM
Updated with some deleted posts.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=133823.msg1429761#msg1429761

1495  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi - is he or isn't he a scammer. on: January 02, 2013, 02:39:34 AM
sent a pm- I will lend another 43 based on the original term if you still need it.

Accepted. This will be enough for me to close this thread.

Thank you! I'll update post #2.

As we say in Japan, どうも ありがとう ございます ^^


Dear ShadowAlexey, Ciuciu, jborkl and Anonymous #19 (You know who you are!);

Thank you very much for helping us out on this. If you would like me to rate you on OTC for this transaction please send me a message on the forums with your OTC name (i.e. #bitcoin-otc).

As a thank you gift I hereby issue each of you 1,000 options to buy CPA at 0.05 per share (expiring after 2013). Right now these options are worthless because the price of CPA per share is about 0.033. However, one day, I expect CPA to return to it's former glory. At that time, you may very well wish to exercise your options. How to do this is simple. At a later date, just ask me, and I will sell you the shares via transfer. if CPA rose to 0.1 per share for example, this would save you 50%. Typically people do this by flipping shares and that is an option too. if you wish I will send you the price difference and keep the shares myself. Good luck and thanks again. This thread was a success ^^


Hello! I'd like to make a quick update.

The three people who were applying to loan us have for one reason or another been unable to complete the transaction. At this point we have taken on 338 BTC of liability, with approximately 180 to 200 BTC remaining.

We have repaid the investors we signed for the first week. If you are waiting for us to repay people before signing a loan with us please consider the fact that we have paid out 2800 BTC on YARR, we paid out 1400+ BTC on pirate insurance, 250 BTC on matthew's default, we've paid out on several options contracts (check my OTC rating). Actually my OTC rating is a good indication of my trustworthyness too.

Ok, thanks and good luck.
Dont need? She will require all the coins she can get her hands on.
I just had a look at the NAVs of  nyan.x using her own method;

NYAN.A I get ~990 BTC, down from 1619 last week -38%
NYAN.B I get ~1500 BTC, down from 1935 last week -22%
NYAN.C is more or less stable.

This is why you should ignore puppet. He's full of it. NAV of NYAN.A down -38%?

What?

The guy's a looney :p

Sent 58 -

I will not need the funds back early, so do not worry about that.

 Grin

Confirmed. Thanks. I'll put your repayment address in post #2. Your first payment will be sent this coming Sunday. Thank you and good luck.

Why would you take money that u dont need with interest more than average? Doesn't sound reasonable...

Right. Ok I'll offer him the terms everyone else got. I suspected I should anyway. It's only fair that way. If he doesn't accept, then it should be ok with the others. Thanks.

APPLICANTS
Anonymous #1: 300 BTC (accepted, sent deposit address)
Anonymous #2: 280 BTC (accepted, sent deposit address)
Anonymous #3: unknown amount (accepted, sent deposit address)
Anonymous #4: 140 BTC @ 2%/week <--- see discussion below.
The offer is now closed to new applicants. This is fine, thanks.

Hello everyone! Quick announcement time.

I have received four offers, listed above (and edited into post #2).

I've decided to accept them all with the exception of #4 -- I'm not sure if I should accept this one. First it would be unfair to the others and second I don't really need the money. I can do it, we make enough to cover the interest, but I have to ask myself if taking this money would be honest. I mean, I'm not here to just take money take money I have to run a business too. Hmm.

Thoughts? I gave him a deposit address, but I feel a little odd about it. Maybe I should counter-offer to just pay the original terms? If you have any comments please advise. Thanks guys, I was feeling really pissed until I saw these offers. I'll keep doing my best!

DMC isnt what you should be worried about. Usagi got his shares from diablo in an off market, under the table deal, for something like 50BTC. Its worthless rubbish but he didnt pay much for it, and its mostly older DMC shareholders that got screwed over by this deal.  

What you should worry about is usagi's exposure to various ponzi's, particularly obsi.hrpt. I wrote some more on that here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=97178.msg1214541#msg1214541

This is an example of why you should ignore puppet. When I did the ASICMINER trade, I was the 60% majority shareholder in DMC. Now I am under 20%. That's right I approved a deal that made me lose majority ownership. Ask yourself why. Second point, the deal was discussed and accepted by Nefario and ColdHardMetal live, in IRC, as it was going down.

Puppet is a worthless troll and if everyone reports him maybe we can finally get rid of him. I wish Theymos would ban idiots like him once and for all.

Guys I suggest we ignore Puppet, he follows me around and makes stupid comments on my threads.

Anyway back on point, Nebulus has been repaid. I'm a little upset at him, he told me he wanted the money back to play Satoshidice. Guys, please don't step into this if you're just going to ask for your money back after 3 days.. I was able to pay back goat's 200BTC and nebulus's 50BTC but now we're back in square one with no free floating capital. If you're going to agree to depositing with us, please try to stick to the terms in the OP unless it's an emergency, from now on. Thanks.

Due to an agreement with Usagi I was paid back the 200 BTC with no interest. I'd rather use the BTC for a different project and I assume he did not want to pay interest. We both win on this.

The debt is now void. Thank you Usagi.

You are welcome!

Due to this event there is now an opening for an additional 200 to 300 BTC worth of investment. Anyone who would like to participate please post here or in PM, or contact me in e-mail or IRC. Thanks for helping Smiley

Asked for early repayment.

I've decided to allow it. Sure, i'll give you the same terms as goat.

This does present a problem for CPA as we now are having problems with liquidity again.

We're looking to borrow up to 350 BTC now :/ Thanks if anyone can lend us a hand, see OP for terms.

Asked for early repayment.

I've decided to allow it. Sure, i'll give you the same terms as goat.

This does present a problem for CPA as we now are having problems with liquidity again.

We're looking to borrow up to 350 BTC now :/ Thanks if anyone can lend us a hand, see OP for terms.

I feal bad, I did not mean to start a run. I can loan back the 50 BTC to cover nebulus.

Nope, it's up to me to allow the early repayment or not. I'll just wait for someone who can do the 6 weeks. We'll be ok I guess :/

I've sent usagi 50 BTC. Would like to get this confirmed.

Sorry I was at work ^^ Confirmed! I also updated the 2nd post to show your repayment address. Thanks.

Just for my own purposes :

Would you be willing to verify your Identity with Address, Picture, Legal documents to discourage Fraud and aquire Trust.

I have not found any Imprint on your Websites and your Sailor Moon Name is not helping either.

If your answer is no, why? (Hint : My first question is a rhetorical question with only one good answer.)

I am ID verified on the GLBSE. I'm not willing to identify myself publicly because several asset issuers have recently received death threats (both Obsi and DeaDTerra, among others) due to recent market losses, liquidity crises, or flash-crashes being perceived as bad management. I am, OTOH, willing to do video chat with Nefario or ColdHardMetal to verify I really am who I am in my photo ID.

1496  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Usagi: falsifying NAVs, manipulating share prices and misleading investors. on: January 01, 2013, 11:31:08 PM
[snip]
It's 2:44am in Japan now. All the NYAN and BMF spreadsheets were shown with last update times in JST. I've mentioned dozens of times I live in asia.
[/snip]

usagi,  you state the time in Japan.  Then you say that you live in Asia.

Could you please confirm that you are currently locate in Japan, please.

Thank you.
1497  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling mtgox USD for paypal on: January 01, 2013, 10:23:57 PM
MT GOX USD CODE received
PPUSD SENT

Thanks.
1498  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling mtgox USD for paypal on: January 01, 2013, 09:14:04 PM
absolutely
1499  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: WTB BTC w/ MP on: January 01, 2013, 08:51:59 PM
+1 Polymorphous

Multiple MP=>BTC trades

Always Smooth.
1500  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Those fuckers! Fiscal Cliff Rolled Back! on: January 01, 2013, 08:27:28 PM
Then the CFR will finally have a world currency with which they can dictate world policy.

Bitcoin?

Isn't that our end game? 
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