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1401  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: PENDING - [SCAMMER - 10 BTC loan ($130)] *name removed* on: January 07, 2013, 06:28:34 PM
Has anyone received conclusive proof of his injury and hospitalization.

This is a common excuse when creditor ship out on funds due.

I certainly don't expect him to post medical info publicly but I do think confirmation of these events should be delivered to his creditor.  Police report, Hospital Report etc,  even a news paper report (obviously with name redacted) but with conclusive proof it was him.
1402  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 07, 2013, 01:55:39 AM
The next day The Bangkok guy pings me again.

[10/26/2012 11:28:04 AM] BangkokGuy: Buddy!
[10/26/2012 11:28:10 AM] BangkokGuy: You are in luck
[10/26/2012 11:28:19 AM] BangkokGuy: I just spoke to our friend, spent the last hour or so speaking to him infact
[10/26/2012 11:28:35 AM] BangkokGuy: and I have lots of information that should hopefully help you
 [10/26/2012 11:30:05 AM] BCB: talk to me
 [10/26/2012 11:30:17 AM] BangkokGuy: Ok, so first thing
[10/26/2012 11:30:21 AM] BangkokGuy: Is that I know where he is staying
[10/26/2012 11:30:28 AM] BCB: where
[10/26/2012 11:30:32 AM] BangkokGuy: It's called the xxxxxxxx Hotel
[10/26/2012 11:30:59 AM] BangkokGuy: Also
[10/26/2012 11:31:07 AM] BangkokGuy: I asked him how he kept track of it all, the whole fraud
[10/26/2012 11:31:25 AM] BangkokGuy: and he said he had software and all that, didn't go into too much detail
[10/26/2012 11:31:40 AM] BangkokGuy: I didn't want to ask him tons of questions like that
[10/26/2012 11:31:54 AM] BangkokGuy: But I did ask him how he covered his tracks
[10/26/2012 11:32:16 AM] BangkokGuy: and he said he threw the laptop he used, the entire thing, into the Chao Phraya
[10/26/2012 11:32:32 AM] BangkokGuy: Which is the river here
 [10/26/2012 11:33:30 AM] BangkokGuy: He told me where, it was at the XXXXXX Hotel
[10/26/2012 11:33:40 AM] BangkokGuy: That was where he stayed the first few nights he was here he said
 [10/26/2012 11:34:06 AM] BangkokGuy: I asked him if he had friends in Bangkok
[10/26/2012 11:34:22 AM] BangkokGuy: He said he knew a few people but there wasn't a good opportunity to ask more about that
 [10/26/2012 11:35:09 AM] BangkokGuy: And the good news for you I suppose is that he is planning to stay in Bangkok for at least XXXXXX, he was talking about renting somewhere to stay
[10/26/2012 11:35:29 AM] BangkokGuy: He opened a safety deposit box today too
[10/26/2012 11:35:44 AM] BCB: where
[10/26/2012 11:35:49 AM] BangkokGuy: He didn't say
[10/26/2012 11:36:19 AM] BangkokGuy: And he said
[10/26/2012 11:36:20 AM] BangkokGuy: His plan
[10/26/2012 11:36:22 AM] BangkokGuy: Oh shit yeah
[10/26/2012 11:36:28 AM] BangkokGuy: He has money in Bitcoin still
[10/26/2012 11:36:34 AM] BangkokGuy: Half a million dollars worth he said
[10/26/2012 11:36:47 AM] BangkokGuy: But he thinks the price will crash so he wants it all out and in cash
[10/26/2012 11:37:21 AM] BangkokGuy: He said Bitcoin is like pass the parcel for idiots, except the last person who is holding the coins gets fucked over badly
[10/26/2012 11:38:04 AM] BangkokGuy: He has associates who are going to actually Fed Ex him the cash for Bitcoin
[10/26/2012 11:38:05 AM] BangkokGuy: That's why he needs a place to live
[10/26/2012 11:38:25 AM] BangkokGuy: Because he's going to get the cash trickling into him
[10/26/2012 11:39:18 AM] BangkokGuy: Another thing, he has a false British passport he said he paid 6000 british pounds for
[10/26/2012 11:39:56 AM] BangkokGuy: And the other thing is that he went to Zurich before he came here. I actually got into a good conversation with him about how he travelled here, and he gave me details
[10/26/2012 11:40:06 AM] BangkokGuy: So he said he flew from Dallas to xxxxx and then to Zurich on xxxx
[10/26/2012 11:40:26 AM] BangkokGuy: and then he said he flew xxxxxx to Bangkok
[10/26/2012 11:40:44 AM] BangkokGuy: First class all the way
[10/26/2012 11:40:56 AM] BCB: on the british passport
[10/26/2012 11:41:42 AM] BangkokGuy: Well, he didn't say specifically, but he did say he could travel on the British passport. It's not like, a fake someone knocked up, it's real and registered, a real fake
[10/26/2012 11:41:47 AM] BangkokGuy: If you get me
[10/26/2012 11:42:01 AM] BangkokGuy: Like a super expensive fake, not like a fake id someone just printed
 [10/26/2012 11:42:34 AM] BangkokGuy: But he said it was the first thing that went into his deposit box today
 [10/26/2012 11:43:30 AM] BangkokGuy: He went home
[10/26/2012 11:43:36 AM] BangkokGuy: Back to his hotel
[10/26/2012 11:43:45 AM] BangkokGuy: He said he was going to order room service and then call it a night
 [10/26/2012 11:45:14 AM] BangkokGuy: Yeah, got lucky there, I showed up at the bar and he was on the bar stool chatting to the bar girl
[10/26/2012 11:45:45 AM] BangkokGuy: I got out of work early for it and lucky I did too
[10/26/2012 11:46:02 AM] BangkokGuy: So what now? He said specifically he'd be back to the bar
[10/26/2012 11:46:08 AM] BangkokGuy: But I dunno when
 [10/26/2012 11:47:35 AM] BCB: but it may be more complicated than that
[10/26/2012 11:47:59 AM] BangkokGuy: Well he did say he wasn't worried about getting caught because of the grey legal status of Bitcoin
[10/26/2012 11:48:26 AM] BCB: yes that is the issue
[10/26/2012 11:48:46 AM] BangkokGuy: Shit so that is true? I figured like, you steal $5m you go to jail
[10/26/2012 11:48:52 AM] BangkokGuy: I thought was just being cocky
[10/26/2012 11:50:07 AM] BCB: nope no country has made any kind of legal ruling on bitcoin yet
[10/26/2012 11:50:25 AM] BangkokGuy: Wow
[10/26/2012 11:50:34 AM] BangkokGuy: So it's the perfect crime
 [10/26/2012 11:52:02 AM] BCB: the problem is the bitcoin world is very tightlipped and anonymous
[10/26/2012 11:52:37 AM] BCB: so the guys he stole from are reluctant to go to the authorities because bringing trendon down might bring him down
[10/26/2012 11:52:46 AM] BangkokGuy: Jeez
[10/26/2012 11:52:54 AM] BCB: and the fact that he has all this money in bitcoin
[10/26/2012 11:53:01 AM] BCB: you can't sue someone for bitcon
 [10/26/2012 11:53:25 AM] BangkokGuy: Well he is saying that he won't for long
[10/26/2012 11:53:34 AM] BangkokGuy: He's trying to get it cash ASAP he said
[10/26/2012 11:54:29 AM] BangkokGuy: But yeah, you can't sue someone for platinum bars in a safe in Zurich under an assumed name either
[10/26/2012 11:54:40 AM] BangkokGuy: I didn't think it was a suing thing though. I thought it was a jail time thing
[10/26/2012 11:55:19 AM] BCB: well that is where we are
 [10/26/2012 11:56:55 AM] BangkokGuy: Thai government will only extradite people if what they have done is also a crime in Thailand
[10/26/2012 11:57:10 AM] BangkokGuy: I might be wrong on that but I know that's how a lot of countries operate
[10/26/2012 11:57:37 AM] BangkokGuy: I never mentioned before because stealing $5m is definitely a crime here, but yeah, it might be a little trickier
[ [10/26/2012 11:58:24 AM] BCB: I'm not a laywer
[10/26/2012 12:02:12 PM] BangkokGuy: It's such a shitty situation. Who'd have thought it would be so easy to steal millions and then get away with it
[10/26/2012 12:12:07 PM] BCB: what about other computers
[10/26/2012 12:12:16 PM] BCB: did he say anything about what he's using now
[10/26/2012 12:12:28 PM] BangkokGuy: No, no mention
 [10/26/2012 12:13:07 PM] BangkokGuy: I go to that bar like 3 times a week
[10/26/2012 12:13:14 PM] BangkokGuy: When I want a drink after work
[10/26/2012 12:13:15 PM] BangkokGuy: It's open late
 [10/26/2012 12:15:05 PM] BangkokGuy: I'll keep you updated
[10/26/2012 12:15:36 PM] BCB: thanks
 [10/26/2012 12:16:53 PM] BCB: remeembetr he has an ego
[10/26/2012 12:17:00 PM] BCB: and he love to brag
[10/26/2012 12:17:11 PM] BCB: he'll tell you all about it
[10/26/2012 12:17:16 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah he does love to brag
[10/26/2012 12:18:08 PM] BangkokGuy: Alright
 [10/26/2012 12:22:45 PM] BangkokGuy: Speak soon
 [10/26/2012 12:22:47 PM] BCB: hey
[10/26/2012 12:22:52 PM] BangkokGuy: ?
[10/26/2012 12:23:13 PM] BCB: one more question
[10/26/2012 12:23:20 PM] BangkokGuy: Please go on
 [10/26/2012 12:23:50 PM] BCB: what did he bring in to the country with him do you know
[10/26/2012 12:23:59 PM] BCB: or what did he put in the saftey deposti box
[10/26/2012 12:24:13 PM] BangkokGuy: I told you about the polish debit cards right?
[10/26/2012 12:24:14 PM] BangkokGuy: He had a ton of those
[10/26/2012 12:24:19 PM] BangkokGuy: Plus travellers cheques
[10/26/2012 12:24:50 PM] BCB: any idea how much he was carrying
[10/26/2012 12:24:56 PM] BCB: in total
[10/26/2012 12:25:03 PM] BangkokGuy: Well
[10/26/2012 12:25:10 PM] BangkokGuy: He said there were 1500 euros on each debit card
[10/26/2012 12:25:21 PM] BangkokGuy: and I saw probably 6-7 of them in his wallett
[10/26/2012 12:25:26 PM] BangkokGuy: And he said he had more
[10/26/2012 12:25:39 PM] BangkokGuy: Travellers cheques, no idea
[10/26/2012 12:25:53 PM] BangkokGuy: I mean he has been staying at fancy hotels though so I figure he has a lot of money with him
[10/26/2012 12:26:04 PM] BangkokGuy: That xxxxxx is like $500 a night US
[10/26/2012 12:26:28 PM] BangkokGuy: The one he is staying in now, the xxxxxx, that is a 5 star hotel too
[10/26/2012 12:27:28 PM] BCB: in his bragging did he say how much money he had in total from the scam
[10/26/2012 12:28:09 PM] BangkokGuy: He just said he was a millionaire but he said he had $1m cash in Dallas plus gold
[10/26/2012 12:28:32 PM] BCB: so he left 1m in dallas in addition to what he has with him?
[10/26/2012 12:28:34 PM] BangkokGuy: and "a lot" of Swiss Francs in Zurich, plus platinum
[10/26/2012 12:28:49 PM] BangkokGuy: Plus what he has with him, plus half a million in Bitcoin
 [10/26/2012 12:29:03 PM] BCB: this is all very helpful
[10/26/2012 12:29:40 PM] BangkokGuy: My pleasure
1403  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 07, 2013, 01:22:43 AM
Trendon know that all along.  It was all part of his con.
1404  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 06:52:04 PM
i did mail the sec some time ago. but i got a reply to wait till after new year to check the regulations of my country.

Yes, depending on the regulations of your country the SEC may or may not allow you to participate in a US Securities investigation.
1405  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 06:21:09 PM
I think that was tried.

No one wants to throw away any more money then they already have.
1406  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] CIYAM Safe - offline tx's using QR codes (10 BTC now avail for testers) on: January 06, 2013, 04:02:37 PM
Oh, okay - just sent the tx in at 33437f32b09cea85639718ef5041a3d537b52032cdd39f1a3985e601b3e8182e . It wasn't successfully broadcasted yet strangely.

Hmm... I can't see it either - perhaps not enough funds had arrived on your client yet (perhaps a "safety" measure imposed to stop you attempting to spend funds not yet seen)?

There's more than enough preconfirmed coins in the system. I would wager a guess that bitcoin-qt needs to catch up with all blocks before sending out a tx to thwart potential double spends.

You coins just hit the blockchain!
1407  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] CIYAM Safe - offline tx's using QR codes (10 BTC now avail for testers) on: January 06, 2013, 03:58:59 PM
Can I run this on a windows xp machine?

For the "online" computer - absolutely (that's what I am using) - for the "offline" one you need to use the LiveOS (which is Linux).


Thx.

What size is required for the USB drive?
1408  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] CIYAM Safe - offline tx's using QR codes (10 BTC now avail for testers) on: January 06, 2013, 03:54:21 PM
Can I run this on a windows xp machine?
1409  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 06:50:21 AM
Thanks for bumping this. Is the SEC contact still communicating? Trendon needs to be extradited if out-of-country.

Ahhh not really.  There has been no crime committed.
Ummm.... what? He's practically violated every law in the SEC-relevant CFR, and he inarguably violated SEC regulations if he did have USD coming from hedge fund managers as he claimed.

Finished filing a fresh complaint with the SEC. Reference Number: TCR1357453781000. Will provide updates.

Nice

Have you been interviewed?
1410  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 06:49:43 AM
I did not.  Someone just showed me how to track IP on skype.  Problem is I heard form this guy three times in October and not once since.
1411  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 06:22:11 AM
Thanks for bumping this. Is the SEC contact still communicating? Trendon needs to be extradited if out-of-country.

Ahhh not really.  There has been no crime committed.
1412  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 06:11:32 AM
I also know the SEC was still conducting interviews as recently as last month or so.
1413  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 06:10:10 AM
I did contact goat.  I don't think he believed me.  He thought I was a FED and didn't trust me (no reason to) so I never gave him the info.

Here you go:

Philip Moustakis
Senior Attorney
Division of Enforcement
United States Securities & Exchange Commission
3 World Financial Center, Suite 400, New York, NY 10281-1022
(212) 336-0542
moustakisp@sec.gov
1414  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 02:09:24 AM
Raise,

There are more conversations.


repentence,

Yes the SEC has the relevant info but they didn't seem interested as it was heresay and any such evidence would be inadmissible.

Yes I too was reluctant to release this info, but now almost 2.5 months later there has been no further communication and I could not locate any corroborating information.   I've begun to doubt these were even real people.   I felt it was time to release it and see if anyone else could make anything of it. 

Don't know if it will help but if even one dot can be connected it would be worth it.

Just my 2c.
1415  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Find Trendon Shavers in person thread... [BTCST, BTS&T, pirateat40] on: January 06, 2013, 12:43:39 AM
so this could be just another troll session but I thought I'd put it out there is see if anyone can make anything of it.

[10/25/2012 1:59:13 PM] BCB: hello
[10/25/2012 1:59:14 PM] BangkokGuy: Hey buddy
[10/25/2012 1:59:31 PM] BangkokGuy: So, haha, I'm actually a little blown away by all this
[10/25/2012 1:59:35 PM] BangkokGuy: I met this guy you are hunting
[10/25/2012 1:59:38 PM] BangkokGuy: About 3 nights ago
[10/25/2012 1:59:58 PM] BangkokGuy: And he told me all about his little scam. He couldn't avoid boasting. He was drunk
[10/25/2012 2:00:28 PM] BangkokGuy: Fucking hilarious man, can't believe I found someone who is hunting him down!
[10/25/2012 2:00:36 PM] BCB: where?
[10/25/2012 2:00:49 PM] BangkokGuy: xxxxxxxxx
[10/25/2012 2:00:53 PM] BangkokGuy: WTF bar, do you know it?
[10/25/2012 2:01:00 PM] BCB: no idea
[10/25/2012 2:01:05 PM] BCB: what city town
[10/25/2012 2:01:08 PM] BCB: ?
[10/25/2012 2:01:11 PM] BangkokGuy: Bangkok
[10/25/2012 2:01:17 PM] BCB: interesting
[10/25/2012 2:01:20 PM] BangkokGuy: Shit, you don't even know he's in Bangkok?
[10/25/2012 2:01:26 PM] BCB: I just hear that today
[10/25/2012 2:01:27 PM] BangkokGuy: I thought you guys were all in Bangkok
[10/25/2012 2:01:30 PM] BangkokGuy: I haven't read much of the forum
 [10/25/2012 2:01:46 PM] BCB: how'd you fine me
[10/25/2012 2:01:50 PM] BangkokGuy: Ah shit
[10/25/2012 2:02:06 PM] BangkokGuy: Well, this guy, I remembered his name. It's a pretty unusual name, at least where I'm from
[10/25/2012 2:02:15 PM] BangkokGuy: "Trendon Shavers", I couldn't forget that
[10/25/2012 2:02:22 PM] BangkokGuy: Anyway he was boasting and shit about his big con to a few of us
[10/25/2012 2:02:31 PM] BangkokGuy: I didn't actually believe him, that's why I got on Google
 [10/25/2012 2:02:50 PM] BangkokGuy: Shit on me. That's crazy
[10/25/2012 2:02:58 PM] BangkokGuy: He didn't look rich I'll tell you that
[10/25/2012 2:03:00 PM] BangkokGuy: He was scruffy
[10/25/2012 2:03:03 PM] BangkokGuy: Baseball cap
[10/25/2012 2:03:05 PM] BCB: he's on the run
[10/25/2012 2:03:13 PM] BCB: lotta people looking for him
[10/25/2012 2:03:24 PM] BangkokGuy: Fuck well there you go man, he's in Thailand
 [10/25/2012 2:03:33 PM] BCB: you know him or you just met him
[10/25/2012 2:03:44 PM] BangkokGuy: Nah it's one of those bars where you just get talking to people
[10/25/2012 2:03:59 PM] BangkokGuy: I was telling the story of my life, y'know, haha, it's full of ex-pats with stories of adventure and rejection and shit. Lost souls.
[10/25/2012 2:04:11 PM] BangkokGuy: And he is sitting drinking his beer
[10/25/2012 2:04:14 PM] BangkokGuy: and he pipes up like "I've got a story"
[10/25/2012 2:04:27 PM] BangkokGuy: Starts telling me about some online currency
[10/25/2012 2:04:51 PM] BangkokGuy: Fucking, big con. Ponzi scheme
[10/25/2012 2:04:56 PM] BangkokGuy: He said $2m and I thought he was lying, haha
[10/25/2012 2:05:07 PM] BangkokGuy: I mean it's not a classy establishment
[10/25/2012 2:05:10 PM] BangkokGuy: 100 bhat beers
[10/25/2012 2:05:16 PM] BCB: you US
[10/25/2012 2:05:20 PM] BCB: expat
[10/25/2012 2:05:25 PM] BangkokGuy: xxxxxx
[10/25/2012 2:05:32 PM] BangkokGuy: I'm from xxxxxx
[10/25/2012 2:05:34 PM] BCB: and you never heard fo bitcoin
[10/25/2012 2:05:40 PM] BCB: lots of xxxxxx into it
[10/25/2012 2:05:43 PM] BangkokGuy: Nope. I'm not a computer guy man
[10/25/2012 2:05:47 PM] BCB: ahhh
[10/25/2012 2:05:52 PM] BangkokGuy: Seems complicated
 [10/25/2012 2:06:06 PM] BangkokGuy: Ahaha, well. I'm pretty far away from that world really
[10/25/2012 2:06:08 PM] BangkokGuy: I'm just a traveller man
 [10/25/2012 2:06:37 PM] BangkokGuy: I've been here for a year now, only intended to stay for a few weeks. That's what happens
 [10/25/2012 2:07:41 PM] BCB: did he say here he lived
[10/25/2012 2:07:44 PM] BCB: who he was with
[10/25/2012 2:07:50 PM] BCB: what he was doin there
[10/25/2012 2:07:52 PM] BangkokGuy: He was completely, 100% alone
[10/25/2012 2:07:57 PM] BangkokGuy: and he was drinking
[10/25/2012 2:08:05 PM] BangkokGuy: I was with a work mate
[10/25/2012 2:08:22 PM] BangkokGuy: and y'know, it's that type of bar, you just go up to people and you're like g'day mate, where you from?
[10/25/2012 2:08:31 PM] BangkokGuy: Just united by not being Thai in Thailand
 [10/25/2012 4:22:14 PM] BCB: so did trendon reveal any local info .  What he is doing there who he is with.
[10/25/2012 4:22:57 PM] BangkokGuy: Well he said he was staying at a hotel down on Sathorn road
[10/25/2012 4:22:57 PM] BangkokGuy: But he never said which one, or if he did I don't remember, sorry
[10/25/2012 4:23:18 PM] BangkokGuy: And he said he was just passing through
[10/25/2012 4:23:33 PM] BangkokGuy: I asked him how long he was gonna stay in Bangkok and he said he didn't know
[10/25/2012 4:23:52 PM] BCB: what time is it there
[10/25/2012 4:24:04 PM] BangkokGuy: Oh man haha
[10/25/2012 4:24:07 PM] BangkokGuy: It's a stupid time!
[10/25/2012 4:24:09 PM] BangkokGuy: I should be in bed
 [10/25/2012 4:24:32 PM] BCB: so listen are you going back to that bar
[10/25/2012 4:24:42 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah, I go back all the time
[10/25/2012 4:24:48 PM] BangkokGuy: I'll probably be there tonight
[10/25/2012 4:24:55 PM] BangkokGuy: If not then saturday
[10/25/2012 4:25:06 PM] BCB: would you be able to talk to him again if you see him
[10/25/2012 4:25:09 PM] BangkokGuy: Of course
[10/25/2012 4:25:28 PM] BCB: we need additional info
[10/25/2012 4:25:49 PM] BangkokGuy: What do you want me to ask him? I don't want to be like, grilling him, and making it obvious, y'know?
[10/25/2012 4:26:00 PM] BangkokGuy: Like he's stolen millions, I'm pretty sure the only reason he was boasting was because he was drunk
 [10/25/2012 4:27:03 PM] BangkokGuy: What do you want to find out? Name of his hotel?
[10/25/2012 4:27:11 PM] BangkokGuy: I could do that without being suspicious
[10/25/2012 4:27:21 PM] BCB: what do you do for a living or did you do
[10/25/2012 4:27:34 PM] BangkokGuy: Who me? Or you want me to ask him that?
[10/25/2012 4:27:39 PM] BCB: you
[10/25/2012 4:27:44 PM] BangkokGuy: Well right now I xxxx
[10/25/2012 4:27:57 PM] BCB: ok so you know nothing about ccomputer
[10/25/2012 4:28:00 PM] BCB: righth
[10/25/2012 4:28:06 PM] BangkokGuy: Well, I know how to use them, but I'm not a technie no
[10/25/2012 4:28:22 PM] BCB: well here's what we need
[10/25/2012 4:29:02 PM] BCB: there are computer files that he may have that detail all the money he stole and who he sole it from
[10/25/2012 4:29:13 PM] BCB: he probably has them on a server some where
[10/25/2012 4:29:19 PM] BCB: anywhere really
[10/25/2012 4:29:28 PM] BangkokGuy: Ok...
[10/25/2012 4:30:01 PM] BCB: that might be too complicated.
 [10/25/2012 4:31:08 PM] BCB: so he just came out an told you he scammed millions of dollars
[10/25/2012 4:31:14 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah he was like
[10/25/2012 4:31:17 PM] BangkokGuy: "I have the BEST story"
[10/25/2012 4:31:36 PM] BangkokGuy: I just got done telling a story about dealing with a fucking scary situation on Ko Pha Ngan
[10/25/2012 4:31:44 PM] BangkokGuy: and he was like "I can top that"
[10/25/2012 4:31:49 PM] BangkokGuy: He had an ego for sure
[10/25/2012 4:31:53 PM] BangkokGuy: And like I say, I thought he was lying
[10/25/2012 4:32:08 PM] BCB: ok he has an ego
[10/25/2012 4:32:11 PM] BCB: that is our in
[10/25/2012 4:32:18 PM] BCB: if he starts talkiing about it again
[10/25/2012 4:32:27 PM] BangkokGuy: I could lead him onto the story
[10/25/2012 4:32:34 PM] BangkokGuy: Unless he's like "Nah I don't wanna talk about that"
[10/25/2012 4:32:39 PM] BCB: yea
[10/25/2012 4:32:43 PM] BCB: you have to be careful
[10/25/2012 4:33:05 PM] BangkokGuy: I think it'll be ok, because I had no fucking idea what Bitcoin was, he could see that, I got him to explain it to me VERY slowly
[10/25/2012 4:33:12 PM] BangkokGuy: To be honest I still don't understand the mining thing
[10/25/2012 4:33:28 PM] BangkokGuy: But that's not important, haha, I don't think I ever will
[10/25/2012 4:33:39 PM] BCB: but that's perfect
[10/25/2012 4:33:44 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah, exactly. He'll never suspect
[10/25/2012 4:33:54 PM] BangkokGuy: That I have been in contact with you
 [10/25/2012 4:34:07 PM] BangkokGuy: I'll act like I forgot his name too
[10/25/2012 4:34:14 PM] BCB: this guy is a big swindler
 [10/25/2012 4:34:51 PM] BangkokGuy: Typical con artist right
[10/25/2012 4:34:54 PM] BCB: right
[10/25/2012 4:35:18 PM] BangkokGuy: I don't think he'll try and con me though. It's pretty clear I have no money, haha
[10/25/2012 4:35:29 PM] BCB: but's that's good
[10/25/2012 4:35:37 PM] BCB: he need a friend right now
 [10/25/2012 4:36:04 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah he was alone, he cut a pretty sad figure I gotta be honest, that's why I thought he made the whole thing up
[10/25/2012 4:36:18 PM] BangkokGuy: I mean he didn't look sad but he seemed very alone y'know
 [10/25/2012 4:37:55 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah he'll love that, I mean I was kinda like that, not sucking up but it was a great story
[10/25/2012 4:38:08 PM] BangkokGuy: Everyone in the bar was pretty transfixed
[10/25/2012 4:38:13 PM] BCB: plays right into his ego
[10/25/2012 4:38:14 PM] BCB: perfect
[10/25/2012 4:38:17 PM] BCB: so listen
[10/25/2012 4:38:25 PM] BCB: you don't have to understand a thing he says
[10/25/2012 4:38:36 PM] BCB: he will talk abou the block chain
[10/25/2012 4:38:39 PM] BCB: and escrow
[10/25/2012 4:38:42 PM] BCB: and the network
[10/25/2012 4:38:54 PM] BCB: but there are just three thing you need to find out
[10/25/2012 4:39:00 PM] BangkokGuy: Ok
[10/25/2012 4:39:12 PM] BCB: he has funds in two locations
[10/25/2012 4:39:27 PM] BCB: it is said that he sill controls $500,000 in bit coin
[10/25/2012 4:39:35 PM] BCB: we need to know if that is ture
[10/25/2012 4:39:40 PM] BangkokGuy: Ok
[10/25/2012 4:39:52 PM] BangkokGuy: That's easy
[10/25/2012 4:39:59 PM] BCB: it is also said he has about $500,000 in precious metals and cash in a bank in texas
[10/25/2012 4:40:01 PM] BCB: that is ture
[10/25/2012 4:40:28 PM] BangkokGuy: Well, I can confirm that to you right now
[10/25/2012 4:40:32 PM] BangkokGuy: But he said a million in cash
[10/25/2012 4:40:34 PM] BangkokGuy: In a bank in Dallas
[10/25/2012 4:40:39 PM] BCB: nice
[10/25/2012 4:40:40 PM] BangkokGuy: Safety deposit
 [10/25/2012 4:40:46 PM] BangkokGuy: That's where he's from
[10/25/2012 4:41:07 PM] BangkokGuy: He also said he has money and platinum in a deposit box in Zurich
[10/25/2012 4:41:29 PM] BangkokGuy: and the cash he is living off is on anonymous debit cards from a Polish bank
[10/25/2012 4:41:38 PM] BangkokGuy: He showed me them, his wallet was full of them
[10/25/2012 4:41:45 PM] BangkokGuy: He said there was 1500 euros on each
[10/25/2012 4:41:59 PM] BCB: very nice
[10/25/2012 4:42:13 PM] BangkokGuy: And he said the money he has in Zurich is in Swiss Franc 1000 notes
[10/25/2012 4:42:26 PM] BCB: did the cards have his name on them
[10/25/2012 4:42:29 PM] BangkokGuy: It sounded like James Bond shit, you know
[10/25/2012 4:42:37 PM] BangkokGuy: No, none of them had any name on them
[10/25/2012 4:42:48 PM] BangkokGuy: That's why I was like "Yea bullshit, Swiss bank" etc.
[10/25/2012 4:43:09 PM] BangkokGuy: He didn't say anything about still having money in Bitcoin though, so I can find that out for you
[10/25/2012 4:43:24 PM] BCB: that is important
[10/25/2012 4:43:30 PM] BCB: the third think
[10/25/2012 4:43:37 PM] BCB: where is the database or the server
[10/25/2012 4:43:43 PM] BCB: don't use those words
[10/25/2012 4:44:01 PM] BCB: but you have to ask him how he kept track of it all
[10/25/2012 4:44:12 PM] BangkokGuy: and I should try and find out where his server is?
[10/25/2012 4:44:17 PM] BangkokGuy: Like where it is hosted?
 [10/25/2012 4:45:16 PM] BCB: basically is a computerized spread sheet that has the name and address and amount of all the money he stole
[10/25/2012 4:45:27 PM] BangkokGuy: Also there were other people at the bar man, he could have traded numbers with them or made friends in some other way
[10/25/2012 4:45:34 PM] BangkokGuy: So I will check that out
[10/25/2012 4:45:42 PM] BangkokGuy: A lot of them know me well
[10/25/2012 4:45:52 PM] BangkokGuy: Not best friends but definitely we know eachother
[10/25/2012 4:45:57 PM] BangkokGuy: From the bar
[10/25/2012 4:46:01 PM] BCB: he's very smart and very clever
[10/25/2012 4:46:10 PM] BCB: I'd not let on to ANYONE that you are part of this
[10/25/2012 4:46:14 PM] BangkokGuy: Ok
[10/25/2012 4:46:23 PM] BangkokGuy: I'll take your advice on that
[10/25/2012 4:46:24 PM] BCB: you have a great story to tell
[10/25/2012 4:46:57 PM] BCB: you've already been incredible helpful
[10/25/2012 4:46:58 PM] BangkokGuy: For real!
[10/25/2012 4:47:09 PM] BangkokGuy: Bringing down an international computer criminal, haha
[10/25/2012 4:47:26 PM] BCB: yes
[10/25/2012 4:47:45 PM] BangkokGuy: Dude like I said, earlier on today, I was like, I'll google that guy
[10/25/2012 4:48:07 PM] BangkokGuy: What was his name again, oh yeah, Trendon Shaversa
[10/25/2012 4:48:13 PM] BangkokGuy: and then I find ALL this shit
[10/25/2012 4:48:14 PM] BangkokGuy: and I'm like "Whoa he's legit"
[10/25/2012 4:48:26 PM] BangkokGuy: Well not legit, haha, very not legit
[10/25/2012 4:48:42 PM] BCB: But he wasn't bullshitting you
[10/25/2012 4:48:48 PM] BCB: he loves to brag about it
[10/25/2012 4:48:49 PM] BangkokGuy: But you know what I mean. I was really surprised. $5m big ones
 [10/25/2012 4:50:07 PM] BangkokGuy: Well the only criminals here are Thai, haha. Thai or stupid. Because if you are a white guy caught doing a crime here, you are fucked. Other countries they just deport you, here they send you to their fucking worst prison for 7 years for almost anything
[10/25/2012 4:50:08 PM] BangkokGuy: THEN deport you
[10/25/2012 4:50:16 PM] BangkokGuy: So I'm not scared of him
[10/25/2012 4:50:46 PM] BangkokGuy: I gotta say though he didn't seem like the typical computer geek. I guess they come in all sizes. I would have taken him for like an athletic type or something
 [10/25/2012 4:51:26 PM] BCB: there are guy that he was friend with
 [10/25/2012 4:51:49 PM] BCB: they he fucked over for hundereds of thousands of dollars
[10/25/2012 4:51:56 PM] BangkokGuy: Shiiit.
[10/25/2012 4:52:02 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah I guess he had to be their friend
[10/25/2012 4:52:09 PM] BangkokGuy: Otherwise, why would they give him all that money
 [10/25/2012 4:52:29 PM] BCB: but that is how it works
[10/25/2012 4:52:59 PM] BangkokGuy: Oh one other thing, I dunno if this helps you, but he paid for all our drinks all night. After we got talking to him. He was buying French wine, which is super expensive here
[10/25/2012 4:53:07 PM] BangkokGuy: Bottles of it, and then sharing. Lots
[10/25/2012 4:53:24 PM] BCB: he has millions in stolen funds and he likes spending it
[10/25/2012 4:53:29 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah clearly
[10/25/2012 4:53:54 PM] BangkokGuy: He had plenty of cash on him as well. 5000 bhat notes. But he was scruffy as hell, he was wearing shorts and trainers
[10/25/2012 4:54:01 PM] BangkokGuy: What you guys call sneakers
[10/25/2012 4:54:05 PM] BangkokGuy: Like, rough old ones
[10/25/2012 4:54:16 PM] BangkokGuy: That's why I was like "A millionaire would have better shoes"
[10/25/2012 4:54:16 PM] BCB: probbably didn't have time to pack!
[10/25/2012 4:54:30 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah maybe!
[10/25/2012 4:54:47 PM] BangkokGuy: He could pick up way better shoes than that here though, I guess he is trying to keep a low profile, when he's not had too much to drink
[10/25/2012 4:55:24 PM] BangkokGuy: Dude I'm going to have to get to bed, it's almost 5am here. I'm not working until the afternoon, but still
[10/25/2012 4:55:32 PM] BCB: hang on ...
[10/25/2012 4:55:38 PM] BCB: let me get you some name
[10/25/2012 4:55:42 PM] BCB: one sec
[10/25/2012 4:55:45 PM] BangkokGuy: Ok cool
 [10/25/2012 4:58:32 PM] BCB: just have a conversation and try to remember what he says
[10/25/2012 4:58:32 PM] BangkokGuy: I won't
[10/25/2012 4:58:39 PM] BangkokGuy: Yeah I'll keep myself sober
[10/25/2012 4:58:44 PM] BangkokGuy: Man I hope he is there! I am excited about this shit now, haha
 [10/25/2012 4:59:23 PM] BCB: Good Luck!
 [10/25/2012 4:59:44 PM] BangkokGuy: Thank you, I'm on Skype most of the time I'm at home, I use it to talk to people back home
[10/25/2012 5:00:01 PM] BangkokGuy: So you'll be able to reach me on here whenever really, unless I'm out or working
[10/25/2012 5:00:06 PM] BCB: great
 [10/25/2012 5:00:16 PM] BCB: jsut check back in if you need or have anytinbg
[10/25/2012 5:00:21 PM] BCB: thanks!
[10/25/2012 5:00:32 PM] BangkokGuy: Ok mate. I'll do my best for you. I will definitely go along tonight after work
[10/25/2012 5:00:37 PM] BangkokGuy: I finish about 10, and it was 11 when he was there before
[10/25/2012 5:00:49 PM] BangkokGuy: He said he liked the bar
[10/25/2012 5:01:00 PM] BangkokGuy: So hopefully, y'know, friday night, he'll be good for it
[10/25/2012 5:01:03 PM] BangkokGuy: And come back
 [10/25/2012 5:01:46 PM] BangkokGuy: Speak later
[10/25/2012 5:01:55 PM] BCB: i'll be here
[10/25/2012 5:01:57 PM] BCB: thanks
[10/25/2012 5:02:09 PM] BangkokGuy: No problemo, happy to help
1416  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Tecshare lied about me scamming him on: January 04, 2013, 06:12:41 AM
You want my speculation? You're probably trying to drag the argument on as endlessly and convolutedly as possible until everyone gives up and gives you what you want.

But if calling me a liar makes you feel better, go on ahead Wink

You are not fooling ANYBODY usagi....
1417  Other / Off-topic / Re: Usagi lies about Tecshare lying about usagi scamming him on: January 04, 2013, 06:04:48 AM
Oh, Now I get it.

The debt you seem to think that Techshare owes you is worth more then the actual assets of your companies. 

So of course it it your obligation to recover it.

We if we just took up a collect for you?

Then would you just go away?




1418  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Tecshare lied about me scamming him on: January 04, 2013, 05:57:59 AM
Several people have told me there is an organized campaign to defame me.


The depths of your ignorance is astounding.    Several people had to tell you that there is an organized campaign to defame you??

Really usagi??

I don't think there are enough shovels in bitcoin land for you to dig your hole any deeper.

There are dozens of people on this forum who know you are an idiot and must think you are certifiable by now!

You keep talking about your precious share-holders.  I begin to wonder if they even exist.  So far your only defenders are Trade Fortress and augustocroppo.  

Even 21after2 (who registered less then one month ago) figured it out in no time after you began ranting (and distracting) in a thread that should never have been reopened.  And yes usagi,  21after2 and I and vampire, and puppet, and deprived et al ALL joined bitcointalk.org and are being paid solely to defame your spotless reputation and bring ruin to fabulous wealth and success you've brought to you admiring investors with you enviable financial acumen!

You continue to defame and embarrass YOURSELF.  It is unbelievable.  You just don't get it.
1419  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Tecshare lied about me scamming him on: January 04, 2013, 05:18:57 AM
I also did not know that usagi and Matthew N Wright (another HERO SCAMMER https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=24749)  where in bed together.  It now makes sense.  They both live in Asia,  mistake hubris for intelligence and  have/had  insatiable desires for drama and attention.
1420  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Tecshare lied about me scamming him on: January 04, 2013, 04:22:38 AM
usagi,

Did you ever bother to notice the pattern here.

You make ridiculous or uninformed statements and claims.

Someone comes along and points out your fallacious reasoning.

You argue with them and quote the internet to try to prove your point.

And always in the end it turns out you are wrong.

Can you please just admit that you don't know anything about contract law

or shareholder agreements

or trading

or finance

or accounting


Please

And 21after2,

Maybe you could follow usagi around the forums and help keep him honest.  I'm not sure if you've noticed but he's a handful.

It reallly is exhausting and we could use home help!

Thanks.
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