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2381  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: FinCEN says you must be MSB if you sell bitcoins for $ on: October 18, 2012, 08:36:39 PM
He's probably part of Occupy Wall Street.  And how'd that work our for you besides getting laid and getting high in your tent at Zuccotti Park?
2382  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: FinCEN says you must be MSB if you sell bitcoins for $ on: October 18, 2012, 08:27:31 PM
Also, to "operate within certain limits" of FinCEN, BSA, AML, or KYC rules to avoid notice or regulation is called "structuring" in FinCEN parlance, so they watch for that as well.
2383  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: FinCEN says you must be MSB if you sell bitcoins for $ on: October 18, 2012, 08:24:01 PM
Actually, according to a French ruling " the nature of bitcoin [could be] irrelevant to the case at hand".

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=118947.msg1279522#msg1279522
2384  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 18, 2012, 06:41:31 PM
FYI,

In the US anytime you think you are the victim of fraud or ID theft the credit reporting agencies are required by law to initiate a "fraud alert"

http://www.equifax.com/answers/set-fraud-alerts/en_cp
2385  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 18, 2012, 05:15:55 PM
He's also running a very busy business.  I'm sure he'll post back with any updates.
2386  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 18, 2012, 04:53:36 PM
Now back to Mt. Gox.

Have really still not responded here or to TC directly through support??
2387  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 18, 2012, 04:51:16 PM
Charlie,

Avoid the FUD.

I think a point was made and the point when taken.

When you post here you are seen not only a member of one of leading (legitimate) bitcoin business but also as a founding corporate board member of the Bitcoin Foundation (regardless of how you sign your posts).

I for one am glad that you are as responsive to your clients and to the community as you are.  Unfortunately you are only one of the few bitcoin businesses (bitpay ... [sorry if I leave out others] that have a clue about customer service and public relations.  I would hope you could use this knowledge and your position as a member of the Foundation,  to encourage the other bitcoin businesses (including Mt. Gox) to try to maintain the same level of professionalism.

Isn't that part of what the Bitcoin Foundation all about?

Thanks.
2388  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS]98.4BTC for PPUSD OR PPGBP[WTS][HOT] on: October 18, 2012, 04:15:52 PM
No this script kiddie is a scummy scammer fuck.  Please post a screen shot of your transactions with Black_Start so we can get him a scammer tag.
2389  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black_Star - Paypal Scammer on: October 18, 2012, 01:05:46 AM
This knucklehead is not a silkroad merchant.  I think he fancies himself a hacker.  His skype handle was xxs/RAT something but he recently change it to
/dev_usb000/, United Kingdom.  He probably never even had any btc.
2390  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: [WTS]98.4BTC for PPUSD OR PPGBP[WTS][HOT] on: October 18, 2012, 12:44:45 AM
He's a scammer.  he's not going to send you the btc period. He probably doesn't even have any.
2391  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 18, 2012, 12:43:04 AM
Uh Oh!  smoothie found us.  There goes the neighborhood.  It's been nice having a semi-intelligent conversation on bitcointalk.
2392  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 17, 2012, 11:56:54 PM
There is a great book called "The Paypal Wars" which details many of the obstacles Paypal had to overcome in launching and maintaining their nascent startup that makes for a facinating read for anyone interested in this subject.  Obstacles like scammers, illicit use and Govt regulations which are not unlike what bitcoin is facing today.  However true to what repentance says paypal would never have become what it did with out first having the ebay market and then being acquired by ebay.   - Bitcoin is still looking for its ebay.

2393  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 17, 2012, 11:22:34 PM
In the US MSB are required to post bonds from $0 to $500,000 per state so the process it not possible for a bootstrap company with out deep pocketed and/or connected investors (Dwolla).

Are the requirements Paymium were required to comply with as costly in the EU/France?

repentance

while this was not a ruling on bitcoin that fact that the "nature" of bitcoin was not relevant in the French ruling is relevant for the fact that some say bitoin is not a "currency", not a "stored value" and not "prepaid access" (US FinCEN TERMS) but merely cryptographically signed messages (or merely a digital notary service) would not fly.
2394  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Black_Star - Paypal Scammer on: October 17, 2012, 10:35:08 PM
Look like you owe some people some money
[12:29:04 PM] fdajkddcek: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=117669.0;topicseen
[2:17:27 PM] fdajkddcek: You going to pay anyone back or refund those transactions
[2:19:47 PM] Black_Star: i have no reason to, i have sent them it, also why did you accuse me of scamming cus i didnt respond?
[2:22:33 PM] fdajkddcek: I was told by three traders that they sent you paypal and you did not send BTC.  Did you clear that up?
[2:22:51 PM] Black_Star: yes
[2:23:02 PM] fdajkddcek: With Segabtc also.
[2:23:12 PM] Black_Star: i found out that becuase of sending from tor/SR it takes ages longer than usual
[4:33:44 PM] fdajkddcek:
ercolinux says you still owe him money
[4:34:04 PM] Black_Star: ecrolinux is lying
[4:34:11 PM] Black_Star: considering im a trusted seller on SR
[4:34:21 PM] fdajkddcek: so all of these guys are lying?
[4:34:34 PM] Black_Star: yeap Tongue
[4:34:42 PM] fdajkddcek: I know segabtc he's not lying
[4:49:21 PM] fdajkddcek: So are you going to cancel those transactions
[4:51:10 PM] Black_Star: nope
[4:51:37 PM] fdajkddcek: So you are a scammer
[4:52:49 PM] fdajkddcek: are you going to answer that
2395  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin PHP currency converter on: October 17, 2012, 10:29:19 PM
You could also be using

Code:
function JSONtoAmount($value) {
    return round($value * 1e8);
}


to convert floats and avoid rounding errors.

or just use the mount gox "value_int" value and convert to decimal for display.

This is explained here.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proper_Money_Handling_(JSON-RPC)
2396  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin PHP currency converter on: October 17, 2012, 10:28:04 PM
You could also be using

Code:
function JSONtoAmount($value) {
    return round($value * 1e8);
}


to convert floats and avoid rounding errors.

This is explained here.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Proper_Money_Handling_(JSON-RPC)
2397  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 17, 2012, 10:18:07 PM
davout

was not aware of that specific ruling.  Thanks for posting (and translating).  Does this ruling set a precedent for for other county rulings?  Is this the only legal ruling on bitcoin??  
2398  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin PHP currency converter on: October 17, 2012, 09:54:02 PM
Code:
function mtgox_query($path, array $req = array()) {
$key = 'xxx';                                   //from your mt. gox account
$secret = 'xxxx'; //from your mt. gox account
$mt = explode(' ', microtime());
$req['nonce'] = $mt[1].substr($mt[0], 2, 6);
$post_data = http_build_query($req, '', '&');
$headers = array(
'Rest-Key: '.$key,
'Rest-Sign: '.base64_encode(hash_hmac('sha512', $post_data, base64_decode($secret), true)),
);

static $ch = null;
if (is_null($ch)) {
$ch = curl_init();
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, true);
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_USERAGENT, 'Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MtGox PHP client; '.php_uname('s').'; PHP/'.phpversion().')');
}
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_URL, 'https://mtgox.com/api/'.$path);
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_POSTFIELDS, $post_data);
curl_setopt($ch, CURLOPT_HTTPHEADER, $headers);

curl_setopt($ch, CURLINFO_HEADER_OUT, true);
$res = curl_exec($ch);

if ($res === false) throw new Exception('Could not get reply: '.curl_error($ch));
$dec = json_decode($res, true);



if (!$dec) throw new Exception('mtgox_query');
return $dec;
}

//call the method from (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MtGox/API/HTTP/v1) using the function.
$mt_gox = mtgox_query('1/BTCUSD/ticker');


//out put the value.
echo $mt_gox['return']['last']['value'];

//this will dump all the values being returned from this call.
echo '<pre>' . print_r($mt_gox,true) . '</pre>';
2399  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 17, 2012, 09:46:17 PM
Since there has been no legal ruling on bitcoin he may not consider his business a money service business.

2400  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [WARNING] Gross incompetence by MtGox in handling sensitive AML info. on: October 17, 2012, 09:20:15 PM
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