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241  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: January 11, 2019, 05:39:54 PM
Ma kod nas je porez 25% jos i porez na kriptovalute omg  katastrofa.Neka bar neki ukinu porez.Nema smisla placati i porez na kriptovalute kad su ostali porezi previsoki,ima previse nameta.Nema nikakve logike.Ja sam za ukidanje poreza na kriptovalute dok ne smanje ostale poreze,namete,dok nebudemo ko Švicarska.Nisam đabe kupio bitcoin da na svakom cosku placam visoki porez.Bitcoin je tu da se sto manje placa poreza,transakcijskih troskova....

Krivo si pročitao ili nisi pročitao do kraja!
Nema poreza od 25% tj PDV na kriptovalute.

Porez na dodanu vrijednost - Ostala oslobođenja (https://www.porezna-uprava.hr/HR_publikacije/Lists/mislenje33/Display.aspx?id=19252)
242  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ARK - Blockchains Interoperability with SmartBridge 🔹 ARK Core v2 & ARK Pay🔹 on: January 10, 2019, 11:20:05 PM
Hello.

Why voting for delegates from mobile wallet is always failing?
Does anyone else has the same problem?!


Do you have newest version? 1.3.1 i think.

Yes
243  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [ANN] KRAKEN.COM - Exchange with USD EUR GBP JPY CAD BTC LTC XRP NMC XDG STR ETH on: January 10, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
Hello.

It seems there are again problems to access your services!
I can't login! I' m always getting Error code "502 Bad gateway" after I click the Login button.
244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ARK - Blockchains Interoperability with SmartBridge 🔹 ARK Core v2 & ARK Pay🔹 on: January 10, 2019, 08:55:32 PM
Hello.

Why voting for delegates from mobile wallet is always failing?
Does anyone else has the same problem?!
245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: January 05, 2019, 01:35:38 PM

Lack of servers is the end goal to serving censorship resistant, peer to peer data. I feel Bitmessage is headed in the right direction despite the bulky POW which
can be replaced anyways with other methods such as proof you time locked funds.


I guess Bitmessage POW is in place to prevent sybil attacks or not?
How would that other method "proof of time locked funds" work?
How would that prevent a whale to attack the network?
246  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: January 02, 2019, 05:13:43 PM

EDIT: Znaci ovo sa 2 godine cekanja moze i ne mora biti tocno? Hmm, a nista, bit ce jos sluzbenih informacija dok dodje vrijeme isplate, tako da nije bed Cheesy

Po zakonu je to točno, tu sam stavio poveznicu:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3301292.msg48515796#msg48515796

Zakon se odnosi na dionice i slične finacijske instrumente.
Ne spominje se nigdje u ZAKONU direktno kriptovalute.

Porezna uprava je izdala svoje "mišljenje" vezano za plaćanje dohotka od zarade
trgovanjem kripto valutama. Djelatnici porezne se valjda "moraju" ili "mogu" voditi tim "mišljenjem".
Mišljenje nije ZAKON tako da neznam kako to djelatnik u poreznoj može interpretirati.

Evo tu imate još linkova vezano za tu tematiku "mišljenja" kronološki:

Porez na dodanu vrijednost - Ostala oslobođenja

Porezni tretman kapitalnih dobitaka po osnovi trgovanja kriptovalutama

Porez na dohodak - Dohodak od kapitala
Porezni tretman kapitalnih dobitaka po osnovi trgovanja kriptovalutama


evo tu ima primjera kako popuniti JOPPD:
https://www.kriptovaluta.hr/vijesti/porez-na-kriptovalute-hrvatska/

247  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 29, 2018, 06:18:45 PM

Regarding the PEG there some others interesting projects
that went live and that failed to went live.

Live:
https://www.havven.io
https://makerdao.com/dai

Failed due regulation:
https://insidebitcoins.com/news/top-funded-stablecoin-basis-shuts-down-due-to-sec-regulatory-constraints/201825

https://www.basis.io/faq  (interesting read about economics)

How would  Bitbay PEG compare to those?
248  Local / Altcoins (Hrvatski) / Re: Ethereum 2.0 – Serenety, Što je i kako radi? on: December 27, 2018, 12:59:58 PM

Ja zapravo jedva čekam da to omoguće i nadam se da ću se uspjeti s nekim dogovoriti da zajedno uložimo i dobivamo pasivnu zaradu. Čisto sumnjam da ću ikada imati 32 ETH da bi ih mogao stake-ati.

Evo mene bi zanimalo tako nešto Wink
Po trenutnim cijenama 32 eth-a dođe oko 3500€ ne izgleda baš puno.

Trebalo bi vidjeti koliko bi to bilo prinosa u % na uloženo i usporediti sa ostalim valutama!
Možda za te pare je bolje uložiti u neki drugi coin koji također daje pasivni prihod ako ima veći prinos.

249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BitBay OFFICIAL BITBAY Thread Smart Contracts Decentralized Markets Rolling Peg on: December 27, 2018, 12:33:50 PM

You can use the calculator at https://staking.bitbay.market to work out the possibilities for earning staking rewards.

The following message appears by clicking on that link you pasted here:

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250  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: 0% tax when cashing out crypto on: December 18, 2018, 04:04:45 PM
Hi all,

Received the test amount to my bank account yesterday. Got a phone call today from the AML KYC department of the bank as expected (they always call me whenever I receive a wire above their €2000 threshold), and asked me to declare source of funds as they always do. I have declared that it is rent received for immovable property located in the UAE. They thanked me and this is all I had to do regarding this transaction. Once again this was important for me to be done with by 31st of December, to make this an event still in this tax year.

Very nice.

You think they will buy it?
Was this money sent(wired) from a crypo exchange bank account to your bank account?

What now?
Do you need to fill some other tax forms and send to your tax office or wait for their call
or there is nothing for you to do now regarding this?

Thanks.
251  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: December 13, 2018, 03:06:08 PM

I don't use telegram, discord, or any other chat service.

The closest I use is slack but even that I hardly use.

There's not much discussion in btctalk anymore, so maybe I should get on another platform from what it looks like.

I don't think we will get a lot of info anyways unless were part of their inner circle.

I completely understand you.
The discussion is totally fragmented  trough various platforms and that's not good.
The official NEM forum  went more live then ever only lately because of this elections.

I think that forum should have always been the main discussion channel for posting and discussing important stuff
as people can follow there even if not registered.

I hope the forum won't die again after this election ends.  Undecided
252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: December 12, 2018, 08:50:58 PM
Somebody should post the link to the poll or how to go about voting for those of us who don't know.

It's too late for anyone to vote officially if they're not registered. They only opened entries for a week which is a fucking joke.

The unofficial PoI vote is inside the NEM wallet in the polls section, but like I said it's not the real vote though it might be taken into account by a few people with real votes.

Anyway for those interested about this info check the following links:

list of candidates:
https://medium.com/nemofficial/nem-elections-voting-guide-fd8919371a82

official voting guide:
https://medium.com/@nemofficial/nem-foundation-egm-voting-guide-42c2b8bc0653

unofficial community poll guide:
https://medium.com/@granin/nem-foundation-community-unofficial-poi-vote-voting-guide-f28fecac4f46

253  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: 0% tax when cashing out crypto on: December 12, 2018, 08:36:25 PM
Don't get me wrong, I totally understand where you coming from, but I guess everyone here doesn't want to go to a lot of hassle just for the sake of reducing or not paying their tax. Maybe I just see people around me back in the days or even up to now, trying to take advantage of the loopholes. Perhaps others will find your 'suggestions' and might go that route, or others doesn't want to make things complicated, vis-a-vis.

Well making a wire transfer of €1000 to a company per year then declaring the source of income in one sentence IF you're asked to do so doesn't sound overly complicated to me. I'm not sure how somebody even sets up a crypto wallet if he/she finds doing this task complicated.

I don't think people find it complicated i think people are afraid! Wink


I do understand your point.
But again I have opened this thread to discuss this solution for the problem of 'wanting to pay 0% on your income received in cypto without miving your residence anywhere'.
Not to discuss people's opinions about how nobody should avoid taxes in general.
Not to discuss how some people believe tax authorities are know-it-all godlike creatures.

Such posts only fragment the information content of this thread for people who want to learn more about this stuff. The same goes for some of the above posts describing in generalities how the 'spirit of double taxation treaties SHOULD work'. ALL the OECD double tax treaties say immovable property income can ONLY be taxed in the country where the immovable property is located. Then you only have to find a country that taxes that income with 0% according to their local tax laws. Which I did. It's that simple. I don't see the point of beating a dead horse any further.

It is as uncomplicated to implement as described in the first paragraph.
It DOES make your income not taxable in your country of residence because that's what the treaties say.

Well the treaties say it but usually is more important what your taxman thinks of it
because there is a great change that to prove this you will have to go to court  against taxman and people are afraid and reluctant to do this
so I think they choose to pay something even if they shouldn't just for the sake to not have to deal with it.

I would suggest anyone that want to try such activity to consult a local tax advisor or lawyer
to avoid any trouble later.


Anyway there could be also other few viable legal options to achieve the same result.
1) in some countries you can cash out your crypto to FIAT for 0% tax if you hold it more than 1 or 2 years (depending on country law).
2) maybe a person could loan himself FIAT for giving crypto assets as collateral.
There are some companies that do that.
This will still require the person to pay back the interest but i think it would be much lower than the tax
as loans are not taxable.

What you think about this?
Anyway out of curiosity are you a lawyer or a tax advisor?



254  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: 0% tax when cashing out crypto on: December 11, 2018, 04:02:44 PM
I think you can't avoid tax unless you change residence to another country because
your tax authority may request you to present them your sublet contract!
Then what?

You mentioned you have to rent space from legal entity A for 1000€ / year. right?
Then you let this space to legal entity B for 90K € / year .
What if tax authority in your country ask you to show also the contract that you have with legal entity B?

In your case who will be the legal entity B in the contract
that will pay you 90K € on your bank account?

Can you explain more in details please?


For common "small" people is difficult to escape the parasitic systems
that are feeding on the working class and  which  you may know are designed
for the rich to become richer.

Only the rich have totally legal means to "lower" their taxes legally.
255  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Porez na bitcoin i kriptovalute 2018-2019 on: December 07, 2018, 03:36:08 PM
Jel postoji uopće netko tko će morati platiti porez za 2018.? Grin Grin

Zašto misliš da ne postoji? Siguran sam da ima jako puno ekipe koja je izašla u fiat tamo negdje u siječnju i veljači kad su shvatili da je vrag odnio šalu. A ako su tada izašli, onda su definitivno u debelom plusu na koji trebaju platiti porez.

Mene zapravo najviše zanima ono famozno pravilo gdje ne treba platiti porez ako si držao kripto valutu u walletu dvije godine. Nisam među tom ekipom, ali stvarno me zanima je li to istina. Ili je netko vidio da tako radi Njemačka, pa prenio tu vijest u Hrvatskoj i onda su ljudi prepričavali i igrom "pokvarenog telefona" došli do zaključka da to pravilo vrijedi i kod nas...

tu piše:
https://www.porezna-uprava.hr/hr_propisi/_layouts/in2.vuk.sp.propisi.intranet/propisi.aspx#id=pro1623

Quote
8. Dohodak od kapitala po osnovi kapitalnih dobitaka ne oporezuje se ako je otuđenje izvršeno između bračnih drugova i srodnika u prvoj liniji i drugih članova uže obitelji iz članka 14. stavaka 5. i 6. ovoga Zakona, između razvedenih bračnih drugova ako je otuđenje u neposrednoj svezi s razvodom braka, nasljeđivanjem financijske imovine te u slučaju ako je financijska imovina otuđena nakon dvije godine od dana nabave, odnosno stjecanja te imovine.

256  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: [LIST] Free EU bank accounts that you can be opened directly online on: December 01, 2018, 01:01:32 PM
After the disaster there is some cash for free so to say. No cash from your side needed. And the earlier you join the more is up for grabs.
It’s by invite only and I have a limited number of invites: https://initiativeq.com/invite/rEcFJW70m

No data collection, you can sign up with a fake name and a temp email.

I do not trust that shit!
At the end they will ask KYC data to be supplied, you will see!

Do you know any legal payment processor (service) that does not require your personal data
(ID, passport , credit card, utility bill, etc..) ?

NOTHING IS FOR FREE.
257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NEM (XEM) Official Thread - 100% New Code - Easy To Use APIs on: November 26, 2018, 04:50:45 PM

https://www.coindesk.com/amber-baldet-dont-force-public-blockchains-down-enterprises-throats

What are or what will be the usercases for the public NEM chain then?!  Undecided
258  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: Uvod u Ponzi Sheme on: November 26, 2018, 02:57:13 PM

Šta je Ponzi Shema?
Ponzi shema je investicijska platforma za prevare koja podrazumjeva plaćanje profita postojećim investitorima od sredstava koje doprinesu novi investitori.
...

Zaboravio si mirovinski sustav!
Pogotovo hrvatski mirovisnki sustav!

Kome bi to trebali prijaviti?!  Huh
259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ✅[ANN][ICO A2A tokens]✅ STeX: 1st Aggregator of the crypto-liquidity on: November 16, 2018, 11:57:27 PM
Hello

What happen to the old bounty (referral) amounts?
How can we withdraw this funds that we earned from referring people to the pre-ico / ico
when it was known as "stex.exchange" ?

You'll find the answers one page before this one!

OK.
So not all the data has been imported yet that why I'm seeing 0 there.
I will wait.

Thanks for the fast reply.
260  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Qora | POS | Assets | Names | Polls | Automated Transactions | Social Network on: November 16, 2018, 10:58:56 PM
Those who held QORA in etherdelta, so what's going to happen to their coins?

What are you talking about?
Qora is not and was never an ERC 20 token on ethereum network.
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