I KNOW from experience.  When I bought 42 x S7's the end of 2015, more than a dozen of them were OBVIOUSLY USED.

Whether you believe me or not is up to you.

Thanks for accepting my apology.  Much appreciated.

Yes, the photo helps.

As for testing the sonm fog computing project, I'll have to check it out when I'm better rested.  I've had approximately 4.5 hours sleep over the past 48 hours.

Listen up:

Have you read ANYTHING from me telling those who already have them to stop using them?  No!

When the Z9 comes out, it will be Bitmain selling you equipment they know will soon no longer be profitable to mine with in a couple of months.  Also, it would more than likely be hardware they've used for months before shipping them off to those who find themselves "useful."

Is someone getting upset?  You call my INFORMING PEOPLE, "bitching."  ROFL...

Someone is OBVIOUSLY getting upset from what I've been sharing.

As for there being nothing I can do:  I'm the type who believes in the "individual."  I believe ONE PERSON can actually MAKE A DIFFERENCE.

I don't either...  Just wondering why you're trying to put words in my mouth as if I had something against them?  I too mined bitcoin with CPU and GPU back in the day.  Not as serious then as I am now.  But I did...

Why do I have to have something against them?

Did you hear me say anything negative towards them?  No!

Someone might want to change the title.  I didn't bother wasting my time with it after reading the title about "Michael Jackson. The Wiz; can't win". How the hell would that have anything to do with crypto by reading the title?  If they made the title relevant to ZCash, people might watch the damn thing.

APOLOGIES:  I see it was another individual.  You dropped in shortly after his response.  I "assumed" it was the same person I was talking to.

Please accept my apology?

Be honest... Do you think they would actually do that?  I doubt it...

Main reason why they would not is they would alienate their community once again.  [Talking about ZCash].

And?  Is this quote of me your way of saying your done with this conversation?

You make a statement as "FACT" that no algorithm can be truly ASIC/FPGA resistant.  I showed you there is proof to make an algorithm [Not resistant] to ASIC's and FPGA's BUT put them on an even keel with GPU's.  You even linked a video titled, "Can't Win" after making a statement that's NOT FACT.  What's the purpose behind such a video?  If it was to say, "There's no hope."  I've provided support there is hope.  In fact, there's a solution.  Probably several solutions.  If you linked the video for the purpose of rubbing in what you THOUGHT was a winning argument, then you're just as guilty of not "communicating" but simply shilling [With sarcasm; whether ignorantly or knowingly] for BITMAIN.

You say you have GPU's.  If so, one would think you would STAND against BITMAIN's efforts to have CENTRALIZED control of yet ANOTHER PoW algorithm.  Which, in turn, would give them another coin(s) to have a Composite position on coin(s) that do not fork away from ASIC's.  Translation:  They will have control of mining AND speculation (trading) of another coin(s), such as ZEC and KOMODO.

I really wish miners would take the time to do research and UNDERSTAND the opportunity DECENTRALIZED crypto currencies with DECENTRALIZED mining has given us to potentially change the world in a POSITIVE way to give WE THE PEOPLE our freedoms back.  That freedom is threatened when we have the number one manufacturer of ASIC's actively working to gain majority control of mining all major Proof of Work algorithms.  Yes, there's also an issue with centralized pools but that's another subject for another thread.

I was in the dark for the first couple of years in my mining endeavors.  I had to learn the truth the hard way.  I'm sharing what I've learned with those who are relatively new to mining or thinking about getting involved with mining.  Protecting "decentralization" IN ALL FORMS is what's important.  NOT PROFIT based on greed.  Remember, I used to be one who was blinded by his own greed for profit with no thought of the importance to keep a currency decentralized [In all forms] for the betterment of humanity.

I "ASKED" questions...  Did I say you did?

Thanks for answering though.  Appreciate your honesty.

"Bitmain's Pre-Mining Policy is a Gold Mine"  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNg5yxlvvng

After watching that video, you'll see what I mean by BITMAIN mining [so-called "testing"] Z9 mini's before shipping them off to those who purchased for August/September delivery.  However, I'm smart enough to do the math to KNOW BETTER.  The hash rate required for that kind of revenue would have to be exponential.  The only answer for that amount of hash rate is a Z9 (not mini) mining at 30k to 40k sol's each.  They are selling crumbs (Z9 mini) to useful idiots blinded by their own greed and believing the BITMAIN ILLUSION.

I can show even more research I've done but why should I?  You're not interested...  You apparently don't want to communicate.

Still no mention of PROG PoW?  

Ignoring it?  

You have Z9 or Z9 mini?  

If so, concerned about your investment getting bricked?  

Don't want to SEE potential writing on the wall for Z9 or Z9 mini?

Bye!

Truth is, you don't want to communicate.  You only want to "shill."

I show you PROG PoW and you don't even make a comment about it.  Instead, you want to act like a smart-ass sharing Michael Jackson videos instead of even pondering the possibility I might be right about BITMAIN's antics or sharing solutions to Centralized Mining like PROG PoW.

And that's your comeback?  Really?

I sure didn't say your opinion didn't matter.  Apparently, you must think so.

I'm simply saying, "YOU'RE WRONG."

Cause they are...  Just as Monero's hash rate went from over 1 billion down to 150 million after their fork; you will see the same thing with ZEC hash rate if and/or when they decide to fork.  I pay attention to a LOT of things in the network (mining addresses, hash rates, etc...) and can read between the lines.  You're simply supporting the illusion that once deceived me.

OR

You're simply another BITMAIN proxy on here shilling and performing damage control.

HI BITMAIN SHILL,

Meet PROG Proof of Work, which renders ASIC's and FPGA's on an even keel with GPU's for the most part.  [About 1.1 or 1.2 to 1.0]:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6B-ZCyP6K8&t=4s

You're as naive as you sound.  Did ANYTHING in that post imply "will" [As in "future" tense]?  Hell no...  You're argument is just a speculative as mine.  However, I've been in this game long enough to KNOW how Bitmain works.

If you wish to remain a "useful idiot" of Bitmain's, be my guest.

You don't get it, do you...  OR you DO get it and know full well what I'm talking about and simply attempting "damage control" for BITMAIN.

BITMAIN slips up and admits they have it BUT YOU WILL NEVER SEE IT. Turns out you are one of many Bitmain "Useful Idiots."  OR you are a hired sponsor/employee for Bitmain.  Which is it?

For those just arriving:  Scroll up to my previous posts (#841 and #842) to see screen shots posted of Bitmain Co-Owner admitting to having a Z9 (not mini) that's 3 to 4 times higher hash rate [Depending on whether or not it's over clocked, I'm sure].

What the hell is that supposed to mean?  ROFL

If anything, YOU ARE A SPONSOR PAID BY BITMAIN or a proud useful idiot.

Anyone who goes back to my very first posts for the first 2.5 years of my time here on bitcoin talk, they would see I was pro-ASIC and defended Bitmain all the time.  That is, until I took the red pill BY learning the hard way.

I don't "hate" any of you or Bitmain.  "Hate" is a harsh word.

If this is your way of trying to make yourself feel better about Bitmain having a Z9 that's NOT "mini," then be my guest and pat yourself on the back.

MEET PROG PROOF OF WORK THAT ALSO RENDERS FPGA's on an even keep with GPU's:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6B-ZCyP6K8&t=4s. It doesn't mention FPGA's in that video.  However, if you go to the link on Reddit underneath the video and read in what developers discuss, you'll see it also renders FPGA's on an even keel with GPU's.