I read that, and I used that as a basis of my opinion, and stand on it, unless you prove me wrong by answering my question at the bottom> You clearly don’t know much about the sportsbook rules probably you didn’t gamble much or doesn’t pay attention on scam accusation board which most of this kind of issue being discussed . Kirito is an official representative of Duckdice.io. He already makes a note that using this service will flag your account 100%. Quoting his post below. But in reality is that while you might get lucky and place the bets in time, the gambling provider will flag your account 100% of the times, which will open a different can of worms  . Okay then, if you really know the rules of a sportsbook. Would you be kind to let me know what rules the service of OP is violating? Please be specific and don't make assumptions.... |
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They are here to compete, MetaWin.com is not a small casino, they want to compete with the big players here as they know with great promotions and marketing, it will put their company on the top, maybe top 10 casinos here in the forum. It will take time to build a reputation but having an aggressive promotion always gives an impression that they are here to stay and compete.
And they have been since 2023, and as stated by OP, that time they weren't accepting bitcoin yet, and when they started accepting bitcoin that's when they decided to build a community here for their presence to be felt, thing is we didn't expect they'll be this aggressive in giving rewards.
It makes sense that they started to consider joining Bitcointalk after deploying Bitcoin blockchain as one of methods to use their casino. Bitcointalk community is one of oldest ones in Bitcoin history and cryptocurrency casinos and it has many professional gamblers and technical experts. Metawin can build up their reputation here with their good services, products, smooth services and satisfying customer support for their customers. And it's more reliable compared to what gamblers can read about them in a review site that could sometimes be bias. Having an ANN thread, this will be see as a transparent feedback from the users since they cannot censore it. With less or no negative feedback, that would tell that they have a good reputation and the fact that they are still active here running a campaign (probably a long term one), as a gambler that makes me think that MetaWin will be one of the leading WEB3 casinos in the future. Their recent promotion in Bitcointalk was out of this world and a rare one though and I hope there are more of them in the future.
As I read above, they are big one so that they will expand promotion here if they see potential benefit from spending budget for marketing. As one of their signature campaign participants, I am contributing for their marketing and brand existence here. So good luck guys if in future they will launch more contests for our community. For sure they will as people were talking about their big rewards, that alone already creates some curiousity and eventually those people will try the platform and once they enjoyed they'll stay. If they could afford big rewards, for sure they can also run more promo in the community (bitcointalk), or maybe add more participants in the campaign for bigger exposure. |
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U should REALLY lower your withdrawal fees, 20 DOGE fee on DOGE withdrawals ?  Most probably they will say that the withdrawal fee is high for the payment provider or wallet maintenance cost. Wintomato is charging higher fees like that since the beginning. There were also complaints from another user regarding the high withdrawal fee. I think Wintomato team isn’t going to reduce the fee. They are charging higher fee for all the crypto than the actual network fee. I'm just curious, since i'm not using DOGEcoin for my gambling needs, I like to know how much is the fees for other casinos? At 20 doge, it is converted to $3 (more or less).. So that's really big if you are gambling within the range of $100 and below.. However, if you are gambling with $1000 and up, then I think that amount is acceptable. At the end of the day, it's still up to us if we continue to not since we have a lot of casinos in the space, but people complaining should be considered as a constructive critcism that a casino needs to improve to gain more gamblers. at stake.com the only casino that currently uses the withdrawal fee for doge is 0.08$ in doge coin, and the minimum withdrawal amount is 2.49$ which is a very low value and this allows players like me who play with very low amounts of money can play at will. for example today I made a deposit of 5$ in litecoin at stake because I wanted to place my multibet bet and I managed to make the deposit very quickly and placed my bet. withdrawals in litecoin on stake are also very low, the minimum withdrawal fee in litecoin on stake.com is $0.02 in litecoin and the minimum withdrawal amount in litecoin is $2.64 which is something very good for my case. Even when it comes to staked bitcoin, the withdrawal fee is very low, at $1.08 while in many other casinos they charge a very high withdrawal fee, this in my opinion is another way for the casino to keep people's winnings, but as people have accepted playing in casinos with these high withdrawal fees, then they should not keep complaining about this, if they don't like the way the casino sets the value of the withdrawal fee then the person should stop using that casino and can use casinos like stake that have low withdrawal fees. If people are happy at this wintomato.com casino even with these high withdrawal rates then they can continue using this wintomato.com casino, in my opinion the most important thing is that the casino is not a scam and people feel happy using it I can see where the comparison is coming, well, if other casinos particularly stake which one of the most popular charge a very minimal withdrawal fee, sometimes it could be considered as a standard basis, so some might complain. But you are right, if they are not happy then they should not be playing with this casino. I think wintomato has to evaluate this thing as this could be crucial in gaining loyal gamblers, I mean if they are happy with the fee, they'll continue to play and will eventually increase their wagers in the long run, what matters is the activity is continues. It's about volume versus the amount of bets, because with volume of gamblers, this could assure that income is coming regularly. Stake has probably billions of bets coming in a monthly basis, so cheap withdrawal fees could be the key here. In fact, IIRC, there were casinos before that does not charge a withdrawal fee, not sure if there's still some now.
I haven't seen any casino to charge a high withdrawal fee like Wintomato for the other crypto except Bitcoin. Gamblers use altcoins for the faster confirmation and cheaper withdrawal fee. But Wintomato team hasn't left any better option for the users. Usually, the Dogecoin withdrawal fee is 1 to 2 DOGE in every casino.
That's the point... even in my case, I would choose to use altcoins as it's faster to confirm and transaction fees are cheap. |
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U should REALLY lower your withdrawal fees, 20 DOGE fee on DOGE withdrawals ? Most probably they will say that the withdrawal fee is high for the payment provider or wallet maintenance cost. Wintomato is charging higher fees like that since the beginning. There were also complaints from another user regarding the high withdrawal fee. I think Wintomato team isn’t going to reduce the fee. They are charging higher fee for all the crypto than the actual network fee. I'm just curious, since i'm not using DOGEcoin for my gambling needs, I like to know how much is the fees for other casinos? At 20 doge, it is converted to $3 (more or less).. So that's really big if you are gambling within the range of $100 and below.. However, if you are gambling with $1000 and up, then I think that amount is acceptable. At the end of the day, it's still up to us if we continue to not since we have a lot of casinos in the space, but people complaining should be considered as a constructive critcism that a casino needs to improve to gain more gamblers. |
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The way it was promoter " free trial", at the beginning yes, but eventually when you are convince you'll eventually subscribe. I mean there's no problem with paying a subscription as long as he proved himself to be profitable. Start with games that wasn't concluded yet and see how it goes.
There’s an underlying potential danger on using this kind strategy to have an advantage against the casino which is you might get link to other user that using method or worst being accused of cheating because of your frequent win. OP was clearly referring to sports betting and if you are a sports betting and you keep winning, a casino cannot tag you as you are cheating because you are not betting against a casino, casino here just act as a middleman which accept bets from two sides, win or lose, they'll get the commision. The worst thing they can do to is to limit us because we are winning,,,the question whether we are cheting or not is irrelevant to sports betting. You’re clearly don’t understand the point of my last remark. Using this tool assuming it’s legit will make you connected to other user that using same method since you are betting on same matches which this OP being broadcast. This method will give you an advantage of knowing the result in advance even if there’s a minor delay. Casino will surely watch you closely together with all the user using same service if you are winning frequently because of your same pattern of betting and frequently winning. Bookmaker can track all the players that placing bet even from different casino. This is the underlying problem I’m talking about when I brought up frequent winning and not just the regular frequent winning because I myself win frequently using regular bets without encountering any problem so I get your point but not as reply to my comment. The point here is that the service offered by OP is that they are the team that will make a commentary on the actual game that might have a delay in live TV... And personally, I don't think it's something illegal, and if it's not illegal, then the casino has no right to investigate or hold our winnings. This is clearly just a lapses on the part of the bookmakers, bettors sees that lapses and taken it as an opportunity to make money, so if they can't correcct that lapses on their part, they will continue losing but they can't confiscate and freeze the funds of the bettors even if they have the same pattern. Thing is, this is sports betting, like I emphasize, there's two teams in the game, you can only choose one side, and if you are on the right side, you'll be profitable. Bookies will not loss by the way as they are just a facilitator, and the the line movement will fix the odds to create balance on both sides. Besides are you aware that arbitrage betting is not allowed because you clearly describing this method as safe and ok with the casino which is NOT.
But this is not arbitrage betting.... Even so, arbitrage betting is not illegal and therefore should be allowed. However if the bookies have their rules to disallow it, they can do so since it's their rules, but there's always a counter on that if you are a smart bettor, you can use two different bookies to make it work. |
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There's nothing wrong with using a VPN, we are in the crypto world and the main thing it promotes is privacy. VPN is just one thing that will add privacy to what we are doing online, and I like to also say this, I don't know why people think that using a VPN is an automatic violation to the TOS of a gambling site.
How exactly privacy is matter when you're gamble on a centralized casino? sooner or later they will ask your KYC, when they know your KYC, it means you have no privacy anymore. You can do anything, but they already hold your identity. There are different ways of privacy, and I understand that the moment we comply with the KYC requirement, they already know our identity. But not knowing where we are gambling is something we can consider as a privacy. If you don't see it as a privacy, then you are like saying when the government knows our identity we can already walk naked on the street as it doesn't matter anymore since we don't have privacy yet. That's what I meant...... VPN could increase your privacy if you're nothing to lose gambler i.e. someone who can accept to not withdraw the winnings regardless how small or big the money, because you value your privacy more than your winnings.
Why would we talk about "not being able to withdraw"? Does it automatically means that when you use VPN you lose your balance in the casino? |
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I don't know why some gamblers oftentimes like the use of VPN if not for something fishy that they may want to perform in which no one knows about than themselves alone, so many crypto gambling casinos go against such, because allowing for it may render them to any form of attack some fraudulent gamblers may launch against their system and such could be to escape the security measures and attack.
There's nothing wrong with using a VPN, we are in the crypto world and the main thing it promotes is privacy. VPN is just one thing that will add privacy to what we are doing online, and I like to also say this, I don't know why people think that using a VPN is an automatic violation to the TOS of a gambling site. I guess we need to read first their TOS and decide whether we will use a VPN or not. If it's written that "Using VPN will result to account closure", then that's automatic a no for using a VPN, however if it goes like this "using VPN to bypass casino restrictions", then be wary that anytime the account could be block since you are attempting to break the TOS which the casino has the right to implement their rules. |
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If some casino platforms don't require KYC first, I think KYC is mandatory later when it's time to withdraw.
It depends on the casino, but in most casinos I've used, I was never force to submit a KYC before I was able to withdraw my money. I think it also matter on how much you have gambled, because as for me, I'm just a typical gambler betting size is not big since gambling is just for me to enjoy. When they are regulated, they can require their users for KYC, it could be now or later, anytime, so we should be ready with that. When you deposit your money in the casino and win bad then if you want to withdraw that money later it will definitely ask for your license and KYC. Most casinos tend to offer KYC because KYC is required so that they can identify users and prevent money laundering. The casinos you mentioned here might ask for KYC from the user later. Although it doesn't seem to ask for KYC during registration, players may need to do KYC when they want to withdraw money to your casino. And if there is no KYC system then later on may be shady dealing with the players to withdraw more money instead of making KYC mandatory.
That's up to the casino as they are regulated and they follow some mandates from their regulaor. If at the beginning when we read the TOS that "KYC" thing is present, we should not neglict it and assume they are not requiring a KYC since they didn't require us when we started. At least be ready anytime, beacuse if you are clean, there's nothing to hide, just follow the rules and enjoy the winning. |
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Guys, yesterday someone also won $15,000 MAYC on Metawin. Their rewards and giveaways are super for a newcomer casino on Bitcointalk.
They are here to compete, MetaWin.com is not a small casino, they want to compete with the big players here as they know with great promotions and marketing, it will put their company on the top, maybe top 10 casinos here in the forum. It will take time to build a reputation but having an aggressive promotion always gives an impression that they are here to stay and compete. And they have been since 2023, and as stated by OP, that time they weren't accepting bitcoin yet, and when they started accepting bitcoin that's when they decided to build a community here for their presence to be felt, thing is we didn't expect they'll be this aggressive in giving rewards. |
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The way it was promoter " free trial", at the beginning yes, but eventually when you are convince you'll eventually subscribe. I mean there's no problem with paying a subscription as long as he proved himself to be profitable. Start with games that wasn't concluded yet and see how it goes.
There’s an underlying potential danger on using this kind strategy to have an advantage against the casino which is you might get link to other user that using method or worst being accused of cheating because of your frequent win. OP was clearly referring to sports betting and if you are a sports betting and you keep winning, a casino cannot tag you as you are cheating because you are not betting against a casino, casino here just act as a middleman which accept bets from two sides, win or lose, they'll get the commision. The worst thing they can do to is to limit us because we are winning,,,the question whether we are cheting or not is irrelevant to sports betting. |
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Can you prove it here in our forum?
I mean, share some picks that we can all see and account if you are really winning. Honestly, I'm not easily attracted with this kind of service especially if someone who is claiming is telling us to join the telegram channel, as I know what's in the telegram.. You are already here in the biggest community in crypto (bitcointalk), so why not impress the people here first and I'm sure if you prove it, you will easily find people to follow and subscribe your service.
Exactly I concur let him share with here and forget telegram evidence will speak louder than telegram, I stand to be corrected all or stated possiblity here by op if not proven can be mere speculation and deceptive, I stand to be corrected using deceptive but than can only be if evidence is provided. It's normal to be doubtful as this is a subscription and we have to pay money. The way it was promoter " free trial", at the beginning yes, but eventually when you are convince you'll eventually subscribe. I mean there's no problem with paying a subscription as long as he proved himself to be profitable. Start with games that wasn't concluded yet and see how it goes. |
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It's already happening, we can see the correction, Bitcoin dropping from price $73k to $69k withing a limited time gap. We should be getting ready to witness another new price mark once we get out of this correction, we may touch the $80k price value in no distant time. The correction is a building block to achieving another whole new all time high.
I never saw Bitcoin going back down to $69k all the way from $73k and if the correction has been made why going back to an amount we have left few weeks ago? Is some how not approaching the expected amount to me. But I still hope to witness a surprising amount like you said, if we get to see the market price still at $73k till tomorrow and not going back down to $72k or $71k then it would be a step up to either $74-75k or even above that, but for now the market price is a bit slow. Bitcoin is currently priced at &69k and I have this feeling that it will drop again but most likely won’t never go below &60k. This is a sign that we are heading for a bigger price and a new all time high after this, so we should get ready with it. However, instead of worrying about the price getting low, why not grab the opportunity of buying low and maximize the purchase. This won’t take too long and we will see bitcoin price skyrocketing again. |
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Trading is a highly risky activity. You can lose everything you have in just a blink of an eye. This is the reason why trading is not advised for those who have weak hearts and emotions, and get easily fainted whenever they receive bad news. Good thing if they win consistently, but it’s more possible to lose frequently than winning at a regular basis.
Your heart condition will certainly be put at risk. So if you think you can’t stand the pressures in trading, don’t decide to trade in the first place but focus more on hodling bitcoin. You can still end up with massive profits through hodling if you are patient and have faith on your investment.
That’s exactly my point. You don’t have to rush in trading and risk your funds if you think you will only end up with huge and uncontrolled losses. That is not good for you wallet, most especially in your health. You may not felt it when you are still early in trading, but eventually when you see yourself at a consistent loss, you will start to see that this isn’t healthy anymore. You will put your health and your heart at risk, so if you are already feeling this way, better to leave trading for good and find other alternatives that is capable to give substantial amount of income. |
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Know that crypto opportunities are vast in the market. If you missed one, obviously there are still a lot of opportunities coming your way, you just have to wait patiently and determine if they really are opportunities to be in profits or opportunities to lose your funds. Sometimes, opportunities can be deceiving, just like you were deceived by your own greed in the market.
Chasing profits is good but you should also put it in timing. Trading has certainly its own timing, if you fail to recognize that, you might end up trading at a loss price.
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What to do??
Firstly, you need to question the fact that this coins are getting established and lunched at the halving period, why not get lunched years back before halving......(looks fishy)..... "halving brings up a bull market"
Just because a project is launching near the halving event isn't enough reason to call it fishy or a scam. What if it's a genuine project that has been planned this way and it's a requirement of their roadmap to launch the project during these times, what if they have planned to use this opportunity in their favour to attract more users and investors towards their project by launching it around the bull run and halving event? So, I don't think what you said is what one should see when they are analysing a project to check whether it is a legit or a scam. There are other factors that one should notice to understand if the project has potential or if it has just been created to scam its investors such as looking at their history, a genuine project would be active around the industry and on social media even before their launch. I couldn’t agree more. Scam projects might be rapid during bullish market but questioning why such projects were launched in time of bitcoin halving, for me that’s also part of developer’s plan. However, whether it’s a scam or legit, just don’t entertain new projects that you have doubted in the first place. Stick to bitcoin and avoid too good to be true altcoins. That’s the safest way to avoid inevitable losses in the market. At the end of the day, if that certain project is really valuable and worth our funds, that will continue to progress in the market, and just like bitcoin, it will definitely offer us limitless opportunity even after bitcoin halving. |
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JP doesn't hold the future of Bitcoin and he has nothing other than speculating. But can't say he is absolutely wrong but the possibility is not close to such a thing as I still believe that the market is not totally changing, still history repeats itself, and still see bullish after halving the opposite from an expert JP Morgan views.
Anyway, whatever happens in the coming days we have no choice but to accept it. Can't still change the fact that the market is unpredictable and can't argue who is right or wrong but possible all of us went wrong. It is not a big deal for me for JP Morgan to say that as he is not even the one who controls the market.
However, if JP Morgan is right somehow, then I don’t think it will be a big threat for us. In fact, we have been expecting a sudden price correction any moment from now, and if it happens, I’m sure a lot would be glad to enter the market and start accumulating bitcoin at a cheaper price. Even JP Morgan I guess will take advantage of the current price dips, that’s why he’s been creating a hype in the middle of a bullish market. One thing is certain, whatever is bound to happen will happen, and we have no control on that. It could be an advantage or a disadvantage, it depends on how you view the situation and analyze the concept. But for me, if JP Morgan might be right this time, then I would continue DCA again to maximize my bitcoin portfolio while the opportunity is here. |
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Bitcoin is rising upwards in terms of price continuously. Many are predicting that it will reach $100k before halving. In case that happens, do you plan to exit at that price level because of possible correction at that levels ? What is your exit strategy with bitcoin once it reaches $100k?
Honestly, I have no idea for now. But selling a small portion of bitcoin isn’t a bad idea after all. But let’s just wait when it happens, the market condition will help us tell what will be our next move. We are still heading to bitcoin halving, so most probably price correction is already expected. But hey, that won’t take too long because apparently, bitcoin price will recover soon in preparation for bitcoin bull run. History may have proven it, and probably this time when it comes to decision making, knowing the history is also a big factor. |
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Another user already recommended Binance academy, I was going to recommend that and also provide a link to it,, but all that have been done by other users.
So, what I have to add is that, $500 is actually too much money to start learning how to trade with, as a beginner, you stand a chance of losing most of your trade and I believe you (@op) don't wanna watch your $500 get drained in the process of learning to trade, I will advice you start learning how to trade with nothing more then $20 to $50 dollars, and as well, look for an exchange that have a demo account ability of feature, start trading On a demo account first, demo account simply means that money used to trade there is not real money, you can learn with that and get perfect at trading before actually investing real money into trading.
Trading is highly risky, always remember this and arm yourself well enough with good trading knowledge, to minimize your chances of loses.
While trading can be highly risky for beginners, hence starting trading with just a small amount that you can afford to lose is highly advisable. Learning trading is never easy, yet with passion and patience to aid you in the process, that will make you less prone to losses. For now, I have to advise demo trading account is the key. Although the real live trading is still a lot different, but every trader started on a scratch should also begin with trading not having real funds. |
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Someone once said that there's no best time to buy bitcoin, today is as good as any other. If someone doesn't want to do it for various reasons, maybe it's not for them.
When people debate this with me, I tell them that there's so many things in this world and we can't all own every single one of them. Some of us like to ride a bike, but others will choose a motorcycle. Some will prefer a car and will never own both a bicycle and a motorcycle and there are people who don't have any of these and walk or use public transport.
Couldn't force yourself to buy bitcoin for years? Just quit it and buy something that suits you.
Bitcoin is certainly a profitable investment that becomes more valuable in time, unfortunately not all can appreciate that. That’s why doubters and procrastinators exist, because they’re not up to bitcoin actually, hence alibis and different sweet excuses are made. But in reality, we all know that bitcoin is not a do or die. So if people delays things or keep on missing opportunities in bitcoin, it only proves one thing, they’re not fit with bitcoin, otherwise they have been rushing to the market to buy and hold bitcoin when the price was still cheaper compared today. |
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Can you prove it here in our forum?
I mean, share some picks that we can all see and account if you are really winning. Honestly, I'm not easily attracted with this kind of service especially if someone who is claiming is telling us to join the telegram channel, as I know what's in the telegram.. You are already here in the biggest community in crypto (bitcointalk), so why not impress the people here first and I'm sure if you prove it, you will easily find people to follow and subscribe your service.
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