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241  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][Exchange] Bter.com [Android App] [Deposit BTSX Now!][Tweets by @btercom] on: December 06, 2016, 06:46:54 PM
can we do trading on bter? is it safe?

i would like to know from all past issues

Bter said it had $1.75 million worth of bitcoins stolen from it over a year and a half ago. It reopened and said it would pay everyone back out of the profits it made from trading fees. Soon after reopening it paid a tiny sum back, but it hasn't made anymore repayments in a year and a half.

This is its repayment plan.

https://bter.com/article/4760

This is a thread full of complaints from bter users who haven't been paid anything back in that year and a half.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1605244.0

One post in that thread quotes this reply he had from bter saying it had low trading volume and so couldn't afford to pay anyone back yet.


Quote
XRuZzz July 30, 2016 12:56

Dear Sirs,

I am trading long time on the Bter(more 3 years).

I am waiting for returning BTC about 1.5 year.
I have BTC_B: 5.6331 - 0.5500.
Can I get 0.8 bitcoins from BTC-B for trading in bter_com?
If I do not get 0.8 bitcoins, your duty will be published on a websites in August 2016.

I have $311 on the Bter account.
EgoPay does not work. You promised "to add new interface to support USD" more 1 year ago.
How can I to withdraw USD? I can not do it more 2 year.
Can you convert the 311 USD to bitcoins, litecoins, ethereum?
If I do not get $311, your duty will be published on a websites in August 2016.
...


Bter Support July 30, 2016 13:15

Sorry for the inconvenience caused.
BTC-B is the record of BTC we still owe you. It is not a real asset so that you cannot sell it.

The fund for repayment is from our trading fee income, which depends on the volume on bter. The BTC trading volume is not large and not much fund has been generated. We will repay the next batch of BTC repayment as soon as we have more fund.

Thank you for your patience.


Coinmarketcap contradicts that, it shows bter had over a million dollars 24 hour trading volume a few days in the last week, and yet bter still refuses to pay anyone back.

These are bter 24 hour trading volumes over the last 7 dayss with webpage snapshot links to prove it.



$358,877 on 29 Nov   

https://web.archive.org/web/20161129173933/https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/



$664,818 on 30 Nov

https://web.archive.org/web/20161130184727/https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/




$812,433 on 01 Dec

https://web.archive.org/web/20161201184159/https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/




$823,823 0n 02 Dec

https://web.archive.org/web/20161202172135/https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/




$1,474,814 on 03 Dec

https://web.archive.org/web/20161203192113/https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/




$1,474,814 on 04 Dec

https://web.archive.org/web/20161203192113/https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/




$707,697 0n 05 Dec

https://web.archive.org/web/20161205192841/https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/volume/24-hour/


Why won't bter pay anyone back the money they are owed, and why would you trust it with your money if the same thing could happen again?
242  Other / Off-topic / Re: Ignore list of gaudy paid signature users (3300+ users) on: December 06, 2016, 06:10:51 PM
"Biggus dickus"?  Lol, never heard of that guy.  In fact, I haven't heard of most of them.  And the users I do know, I wouldn't want on ignore or already have on ignore.  So like DH's list this one is useless to me.
The one's flooding the spam are missed out.

Have you read gadman2's old posts? These are consecutive ones that look more like spam than most of the posts by signature campaigners. They don't contribute anything to discussions. Over half of them are posted in other people's trading threads, and are links to his thread selling bitcoins for paypal.




Chat with this newbie and of course he doesn't want to send first plus refuses to use escrow service. Fishy or scammy, probably both!

I said you can use PayPal " Goods and Service" choice

Doesn't matter. You're new to PayPal, yes?






Bumps.










Bumps. New thread layout.




Bumps.
243  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2016, 04:17:08 PM
bitstamp above finex? steroids anyone?


Doesn't happen that often right?!
I was surprised as well seeing this.
Maybe this is mutating from bearstamp to bullstamp. Cheesy

really weird. € is even more bullish. up 2% instead of 1%$. i guess someone found arbitrage and it involves a € exchange and bitstamp.  Cheesy

The € crashed against the $ after the Italian referendum so the European bitcoiners might have traded their € for bitcoins, then traded their bitcoins for $ or held them. They might be watching the markets and waiting for further € crashes before buying back in. That could be why the € bitcoin markets are more bullish than the $ bitcoin markets.
244  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What happened to quark algo? on: December 06, 2016, 04:10:16 PM
Did quark become susceptible to ASICs? It seemed like a solid algorithm. Were there technical issues, or did the coins themselves just never generate support due to lack of continuing development?

Quark was massively premined and that put investors off. Other coins like secure coin are using similar algorithms to quark and their networks have been working for years. They normally give their algorithms different names to the quark one but they are essentially the same.
245  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Augur team member hacked and 100,000 REP were stolen? on: December 06, 2016, 04:05:12 PM
Are the rumors true that one of the developers of Augur is having a mental breakdown? It was said that he was tweeting weird stuff saying that Ethereum is a Russian honey pot or something, and also that Vitalik controls Ethereum totally making the platform not ideal for dapps. Maybe that is what's making the price fall, that developer could be dumping right now.

Quoting above from another thread.  Could this have been going almost a week (nov 30th was above post)? This augur dev guy has 100,000 rep on polo and wasn't able to secure his polo account for a week?  Must be more to this story.

Exchanges commonly say they've been hacked and all the coins were stolen. There's always speculation it was an inside job like with cryptsy. Although there will be speculation the augur dev guy is behind it, without proof it will only be speculation. It's suspicious that a dev would put so many coins on polo. If he was planning to dump them he can't have much faith in his coin, or did he put them on polo so they could get 'stolen'?
246  Other / Meta / Re: Animated GIF images are not allowed. on: December 05, 2016, 09:19:03 PM
This user registered on July 15, 2016 and he has an animated gif avatar.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=878718

On his profile page you can see it's a car with its headlights flashing on and off, and if you read any of his posts inside a thread it's animated.

How did the system let him upload it in 2016?
247  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 05, 2016, 03:29:55 PM
Current small bitcoin dump may depend on the large LTC dump.

Agreed, there were millions of dollars of litecoins getting dumped for bitcoins today, and the dumpers probably dumped the bitcoins for fiat. Bitcoin's starting to recover already and the Italian news will give it a pump over the next week. The mainstream media is weighing the risks of Italian bank bail ins.
248  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Waves Platform [WAVES] - Featured on Nasdaq News on: December 04, 2016, 09:55:18 PM
Well, hopefully these authors are not simply selling their "opinion" to the highest bidder,
but nothing would surprise me.

It would be hard to resist selling out, because the authors on these sites probably don't make a lot of money.
Imagine you were making $15,000 a year from your website articles, and some developer offered you $1500 to promote their coin.
Turning down 10% of your yearly salary to write one article might be difficult.
everything is money my friend, including opinion.
if you are a well known writer, people will ask you to review their product and i'm pretty sure you will do a good review if they pay enough.

Still valid tho, it's not like they are lying to sell... and like @glerant said, people need to make their own mind, do some research before put some money.

Someone was paying people to give good reviews of counterfeit apple products sold on amazon. Not one of those reviews was bad but the products were often defective. Those paid to give the reviews didn't know or care anything about the quality of the products they were reviewing. They weren't lying to sell, they were giving good reviews because someone was paying them to. Their reviews weren't valid, and those opinion pieces are invalid for the same reason, their authors were getting paid to give a good opinion.


Lets leave engadget for now.

Are you really saying that you are comparing some random reviewers leaving some paid reviews on Amazon for tat with a News piece on the official Nasdaq site? Really?

As shyliar commented the Nasdaq site says the article is "by Due.com", it's not written by Nasdaq authors. At the page footer there is this disclaimer.

Quote
The views and opinions expressed herein are the views and opinions of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of Nasdaq, Inc.

Nasdaq's not backing waves. Most of the news pieces in the Nasdaq news section are copied from other websites that don't have the money that Nasdaq has. If someone offers them money to give a good opinion piece they will take it exactly the same as those amazon reviewers took money to write good reviews.
249  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DCR] Decred - Hybrid PoW/PoS | btcsuite Devs | Tons of New Features | Go on: December 04, 2016, 08:05:57 PM
is there any exchange already listing them or how can one buy it?

We will launch our own exchange DCR / BTC and EFT / DCR. Of course, any other exchange will be free to list this asset as well. But our goal is our own exchange, because in future we want to allow users deposit not only DCR, but also BTC (and maybe even ETH) to start staking, so we will automatically buy DCR for them. Something like our clone of Shapeshift for Decred will be a perfect experience for our miners and new investors.

Will you be buying insurance in case it gets hacked? Shapeshift was hacked, and half the regular exchanges have been hacked too. Coinbase and gemini are the only exchanges I know that claim to be insured, and it's expensive. Can you afford insurance, or to pay for all the losses from a hack yourself as shapeshift did?
250  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Waves Platform [WAVES] - Featured on Nasdaq News on: December 04, 2016, 07:55:06 PM
Well, hopefully these authors are not simply selling their "opinion" to the highest bidder,
but nothing would surprise me.

It would be hard to resist selling out, because the authors on these sites probably don't make a lot of money.
Imagine you were making $15,000 a year from your website articles, and some developer offered you $1500 to promote their coin.
Turning down 10% of your yearly salary to write one article might be difficult.
everything is money my friend, including opinion.
if you are a well known writer, people will ask you to review their product and i'm pretty sure you will do a good review if they pay enough.

Still valid tho, it's not like they are lying to sell... and like @glerant said, people need to make their own mind, do some research before put some money.

Someone was paying people to give good reviews of counterfeit apple products sold on amazon. Not one of those reviews was bad but the products were often defective. Those paid to give the reviews didn't know or care anything about the quality of the products they were reviewing. They weren't lying to sell, they were giving good reviews because someone was paying them to. Their reviews weren't valid, and those opinion pieces are invalid for the same reason, their authors were getting paid to give a good opinion.

251  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Core is working on a 2mb hardfork proposal, testing is in progress! Amazing news on: December 04, 2016, 05:36:22 PM
Core is working on a 2mb hardfork proposal, testing is in progress! Amazing news

4) Some of us also agreed to work on another hardfork proposal including a 2 MB "no wallet changes necessary" block size bump, which we've been making progress on over the past year, including even after conclusion of the original agreement (there is currently a testnet for an incomplete version running).

http://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5gcg98/will_there_be_no_capacity_improvements_for_the/darfdyg/


Is their block size bump code significantly different to Satoshi's block size bump code?

It can be phased in, like:

if (blocknumber > 115000)
    maxblocksize = largerlimit

It can start being in versions way ahead, so by the time it reaches that block number and goes into effect, the older versions that don't have it are already obsolete.

When we're near the cutoff block number, I can put an alert to old versions to make sure they know they have to upgrade.

252  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin - Bitcoin correlation on: December 03, 2016, 03:41:28 PM
During the last pump of 2013 altcoins happen to rise at least as much as bitcoin.

this was very interesting. i did not know that.
Can you list the altcoins (that are still alive today) that went up back in 2013?
i could only check litecoin which went up to $48.48 when bitcoin went up!


You can see a series of historical altcoin price snapshots here.

https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/

This is a snapshot showing the prices of the main 40 altcoins on December 01 2013. Of those there's only litecoin, and ripple near the top today, most of the others are alive.

https://coinmarketcap.com/historical/20131201/

253  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XHD] Hidecoin Official thread | Double SHA-256 | NodeJS on: December 03, 2016, 02:23:54 PM
We are working on fork issue now.
So we recommend you to stop mine until new version release.
We will post into this thread when bug with forks will be fixed.


Were you getting all the blocks after you recommended everyone else stop mining? How many coins did you make while solo mining and what will you do with them?
254  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Altcoin - Bitcoin correlation on: December 03, 2016, 02:07:11 PM
During the last pump of 2013 altcoins happen to rise at least as much as bitcoin.

There were less than fifty altcoins in 2013, now there are thousands of them. The altcoins have to share a tiny bit of all the money in cryptocurrency, bitcoin gets most of it. Every week there are more new altcoins launching and more icos that are taking money away from the existing altcoins and lowering their price.
255  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: dogechain.info wallet not loadin on: December 03, 2016, 01:56:32 PM
It may be working again now, I can access the login/create new wallet page. However, I don't have a dogechain.info wallet to test logging in.

https://my.dogechain.info/#/overview
256  Other / Off-topic / Re: How balls deep are you in social media? on: December 03, 2016, 05:37:24 AM
I was hanging out with a few youngsters in my proximity the other day and realised after a short while that they'd spent somewhere around 80-90% of their time on their phones taking selfies, tweeting, snapchatting and whatever else younglings got up to via the internet.

It brought me to the realisation that most social media has passed me by. I'm not on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and usually have never heard of the latest $200 trillion company that allows you to draw moustaches on selfies of your anus or whatever. This forum is of course a similar thing but not quite of the same ilk. I have a smartphone but most of the time it's turned off as I don't want to talk anyone and it's only really used for navigation and retrieving some information via searches.

Is social media the cornerstone of your own life?


The older people are, the less likely they are to use social media. Smart phones and social media give adults a toy that they don't feel stupid playing with in public. The pre-game boy generation weren't indoctrinated into using tech toys in public, the post-game boy generation were indoctrinated at an early age, and smart phones are a natural progression to them.
257  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MINT] Mintcoin - New Wallet v2.0.2 released 3/1/16 on: December 03, 2016, 01:36:36 AM
I'm running into the following error when I try to open my wallet:

Runaway Exception
A fatal error occurred. MintCoin can no longer continue safely and will quit.
Exception: St13runtime_error
CDB(): error opening database environment IO error...

I'm running Windows10.  Any ideas on what I can do to fix this?

Do you have any more detail? Do you have a debug log? What wallet version are you running?

I started it up this morning and it seems to be working now even though I tried repeatedly last night with the same result.  That's a first.  Apparently it somehow healed itself.  Anyway, I'm running wallet version 2.0.2.0

Thanks for your response anyway.

Other coins including bitcoin give the same error. Peter Wuille (a bitcoin core developer) recommends restarting a wallet with the -reindex option to fix it in this stackexchange thread.

http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/7640/bitcoind-corrupted-database
258  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MOON] Mooncoin: You know where it's headed! KGW exploit FIXED 4/3/2014 on: December 01, 2016, 07:47:50 PM
Well, the list is too long, here are users that have 3+ posts in the Mooncoin ANN thread:


Here's the names in alphabetical order.

Code:
-kj-
aaron_m
Abiky
Abinito
AceCobra1
Adibandi
adibi
adjed
adsoyo
AGOOSTER
agswinner
Aknoth
akujin
alakard
aleksand
alleopathy
alphateam
alrachid
Alter28
alyons
Amberdark
Amph
andrealandia
Androidicus
Angora
anotherlateminer
Anubite
arcmetal
ArcticWolfie
arielbit
ArpFlush
arransiv
asdlolciterquit
atleticofa
atp1916
atta2k15
Autodidact
awais3344
aybey
azzelden
b333n
B.S.
baas
badbonez
baigreen
bakedraccoon
barrysty1e
Basnoff
bazzip
BC-Trader
bcrypto
BebeWNC
bellakg
Benezivas
bengtеke
bentmar
Bfljosh
binaryclock
bit
Bitbobb
Bitcoin!
Bitcoines
BitcoinNational
bitember
bitideas
bitkokos2
bitmango
bitwarrior
blachta
blacklig
bonesoul
bouncemeister
brooklynite
btc1210
BTCat
buddynuno
Bunkervogel
bwfighting
bwowd
calligrapher
cAllisTo
Callisto210
Capitan
captainfuture
carlb007
CasinoCoiner
CatKiwi
cexylikepie
ChekaZ
chinatuakong
chip99
Chrisse
ClitCommander
closesat315am
Cloudpost
ClutchThese
coinano
CoinBreader
coinflow
coinpool_de
colinfx
compwindsor
Cook
CookieFactory
CoreInternals
cosmofly
covshark
cozk
crackfoo
crafty
crypto777
CryptoDatabase
cryptofarmer
cryptohunter
CryptoMP
customxyz
Cyriaque5962
cyruss322
dac10
daemonfox
Dafar
Dallas5
DannyTom
darthburnstuff
DavidSantamaria
dbzenhosting
deaconboogie
DeadCatBounceGod
debtstack
dedicatedpoolcom
deeppurple72
def_ender
delphs
Denmor
digicoin
Digicoiner
digitalindustry
digitaltradz
disclaimer201
djslick
dmfree88
dmidos
dogechode
dogehegamonya
Don007
dotnetmin
dquancey
drepteck
drmadcat
DRobert
Drops
dukas93
eddied316
eevel
ehoffman
elixir
embicoin
EMIF
eon89
epicjim
Equate
erazko
Erkallys
eskamilio
ethought
Evilish
executter
Explas
Ezravdb
F98miners
Facira
FamousRocky
fartbags
fast-pool.com
Fayens
Fear_in_Cube
FiatKiller
filipe3x
flayway
FoodForThePoor
fr33th
Frack
fradifra
FranceGuy1
franklar
fredeq
FreePls
GambitBTC
gambitx
Gamer67
gavgav
Gelbstich
georgem
gerbill2
GigaCoin
giveBTCpls
gjhiggins
gnomegawd
Goaheadz
gogota
goldbishop
GoldSeal
goodsmash
goompas
gormadoc
granathus
greentea
gregor12
GrGr
GrinZ
Grrizz
gtavice5
Gwynbleidd
hakans
hasar
HashHound
hashmen
Hepic
hipstacoin
hodger
Hollowman338
Honeypot
Honeypot1
hooma20
hostmaster
huahua520
Hueristic
Hugoboo
huynhthuan99
hvezdasmrti
i8
IainKay
IanFoxley
icey
ifightformerkel
ifyousmell
illegalwisdom
Illusmare
iluvpie60
imafish2002
imginy
incorrect
iqacid
itf991
itsallpc
jaipagare
jamesyarno
javilico88
jayman
jdebunt
jeff6475
jepistons
JimHendrix
jinni7241500aa
jm1978
jmsr1978
JoeRigs
johnbrainless
JohnDoe21
johnngbluntzky
Johnnydoge
jommy99
joulesbeef
kadz
kahir
kajjeb
kalnas
karolnomad
katsoo
kauhywka
kcminer
kennyss
Kergekoin
kev7112001
KickAzzDude
killerjoegreece
killver
Kilter
kingbtcvl
kkangjji22
KlondikeBear
Korporal
kostepanych
kotwica666
krdtm
krodmandoon
Kungfucheez
Ladydoge
Lboss
LeoC
LifeOfDoge
limonade
LitecoinRates
littlemc
littlewizard
loader140
lonsharim
LordPiccolo
losthymns
luckygenough56
lucoia
lulutis2000
M0ndialu
M1SHO
mac-coin
Maconi
madbit1000
madcoin
MadGhost
ManhAppleHeart
marcoman22
MaryRockets
mattle74
matwieczorek
mav38
Maverick42f
maxbit
mctaino
mdawg
meade16
mebagger
MeGaDoOm
merred
metamorphin
michalbb
michi
MijntjeGoud
Mikellev
miky17
mile108
MisO69
mison
mixan
Mkilbride
mmininginc
MMos
MobGod
MobyDk
Mole.
MoNxO
Monzsta
mooncoin1
Mooncoin_Foundation
MoonWhale
Mordillo
Morguk
morphtrust
Morticio
mrmork666
MUBBLE86
muhrohmat
mvdheuvel1983
MysticDOGE
Nagath
nastybit
ndndr
Nelberg
nesco1805
Nevu
Ng93
niceday
nico12321
nightengale
nocoin
nod
NoobKidOnTheBlock
noobyonekenobi
Noolz39
NorrisK
nosf009
Nthused
NUFCrichard
Nullu
obivion6
ocminer
odin99
oktay50000
olib
onecent
organizer
oudekaas
PalmerEk
pamises
paradigmflux
PassPhra
patricbr
patronis
patryk006
Pattes
paulus51
peb0t
peme
perrie454
phaddie
Philll90
placebo
play93
Pleskac
pmm123
pmp0925
podyx
polattah
polemarhos888
Polly
POOL.MN
poor_Boy
poornamelessme
popolite11
porcupine87
poyke
professorY
Prolifik
przepipych
punkrock
Pustul
puvar
pyrofade
PyroTekNeks
Pythonideus
Quicken1337
r2vape
Rainer
Raist
raistlinthewiz
ralfs
RamiroGomare
ratcatcher
rav3n_pl
RazvanO
ReaverTeknoGods
redjedievolution
rellix
responsor
reverse02
ri80va
rikkie
rippy
roastbeef
rockyram
RonPaul
roundrobin
rtopz
Rubberduckie
rubenaco
ryandanielt
SackofBits
sadaf53
sakkosekk
savale
secbul
SeriousCoins14
SgtMoth
shaal
sharaba25
shigoga
siameze
sid280
sighle
sigwo
silvermetal
singula
sirejoe
sitefive
skillface
skillrun
skorms
SkyValeey
skyx518
socket
Sondey10mg
Sovietaced
SpeedDemon13
Spekske
spiz0r
st0ned
Starlightbreaker
StayAlive1337
stoneset
Stripe
subSTRATA
suchjordon
suchnoob
Sultanen
Sumpfbiene
suncoastbuddy
Sunny94
svennand
sweets984
tabnk
tarazano
Taxidermista
tazcatlicoatlus
tazmannia
techbytes
Th3P
ThaTr1kz
The_Gloomfrost
TheGer
TheMiningHorst
TheTribesman
thevictimofuktyranny
Thorgrim
tins
tired
Titan
tompa555
TotalPanda
tottyt
Trafficlearn
TransAtlantic
trcwhale
TrollboxChamp
tryingmining
tuaris
Tyke
tyler26
UdjinM6
ugofoscolo19
uh60james
ultron
undeadbitcoiner
unhooked
userpike
utahjohn
v1l3n1n2
vaelrock
VanityWallets2015
vectisitch
victorteoh
vighter
virtual_miner
Vlad2Vlad
vrm86
VST
waldocarter
warrenchan
Wekkel
weryo
whatever48
Winky
Winner
wizzardTim
wn666
Wolf
wontonforevuh
worth
wtfdude
Xamda
xempew
xhabit
xIronCrossx
xxirdo
yessine
ymer
yodoberman
yorich
youneek
YoyodyneSystems
Zebedee23
Zenchen
Zeta0S
ZetaOS
zeuzzz
Ziocanederl8
zmhaha
zombie007
Zombie123
ZorroPai

259  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: RISE | Under Construction | Building A Brand New Codebase on: December 01, 2016, 07:16:38 PM


The latest news is that our dev team is building a brand new codebase from the ground up.


Can you estimate how long the new codebase will take to develop?
260  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 01, 2016, 06:54:59 PM


150k per coin soon
Where do we have to sign for this?  Grin
I personally (feel) see $1000 fairly soon maybe by new year's eve as someone suggests

We all need money for Christmas so the price might not see $1000 by then. There will be too many of us dipping into our bitcoin stash to pay for those luxury presents. The last monthly pay check before Christmas is gone and there's an expensive three weeks ahead. All those bitcoins getting sold could hold back $1000+ until next year.
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