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2461  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 IHF Men's World Handball Championship on: January 11, 2023, 02:25:07 PM
This thread needs a bump ASAP. Competition starts today and thread went down so much that I couldn't find it and opened a new one (locked now)Smiley Glad to see you here @slackovic so at least I know I will not be the only one rooting for Croatia. We played some good friendlies but we have a lot of injury problems and I am a bit concerned about line up. We shall see on Friday.

As i wrote in that other thread, France should win today and odds @1.4 are not bad at all.

I don't think that France will have a problem beating Poland today. Poland is a host and that gives them some advantage but France is... well, France Smiley 1.4 odd is not bad and I might take it.

As for Croatia... I don't know. I didn't have time to watch friendly games that were played, but I heard that Croatia won a cup that they hosted as preparation for the World Championship. If I remember correctly, Croatia likes to play like a diesel motor - they start with bad games and improve their form as a tournament progresses.
France is indeed France. It is a good thing that the leauge started today and as for gamblers, this will be a huge opportunity to look between match ups especially for those who re avid fans of this sport. I'm quite new with this sports but I am into sportsbetting that is why I am trying to cope up with new sports to catch my interest and one of my prospects is handball. Upon reading some of the articles such as with previous tournaments held, these are the nmes which are a bit 'noisy'; France, Croatia, Egypt, and Morroco. So for this game, Ithink I'd go with odds on France to somehow start my path in this league. Would be okay with other suggestions to help me coping up with teams.
2462  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🎁POLYGON - 1000 coins for registration (Roulette, dice, slots, crash and more) on: January 11, 2023, 10:44:55 AM
If you are here to promote your website buy a cooper membership and post an ANN thread with proper images and formatting. It will look good and also people will find it interesting to read. 
Op earned 1 merit and got Jr member rank it is enough for him to display any images. So he doesn't seem to have any problem promoting a site even if he doesn't buy copper membership
OP is not part of the team though, he just want to promote it here and share his experience about this site.
This looks good though, they seem to offer a lot of options for CS:GO, and I’m actually starting to see it now and know if there’s a need for a KYC and knowing what other rules with regards to creating an account. I tried to go back playing CS:GO last month, I’m still learning it and I’ll come back to this site to check their offers.
Takes time back. I thought this gambling site will just offer esports betting which is somewhat not new in this industry but as I've stare on the image, it says P2P, so for those who tried engaging with this platform or those who managed to check this out, is it really a typical match with bet? 'coz if it is, then it will make betting more efficient. Why? Even if betting exists between players through peer to peer communication, there are times the losing team are not paying especially if it is just a verbal agreement and if there are no midman available. Gambling sites who would (or offer if there are already) offer this feature would somehow open up a better platform for those who are both into playing and also with gambling. If this would be run smoothly, then this woud be something 'new' in this industry.
2463  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Streamer and Crypto Guru Gambles Away Investor Funds on: January 11, 2023, 09:57:38 AM
Excuses, I guess. In the first place, that's not his money he is gambling for which is wrong in any aspect. Desperation will never be a valid reason why you did such thing espwcially if it is concerning other's possessions. Given that he's a stremer and a crypto guru as he calls himself, he should be aware of the possible outcomes of what he did. Maybe he was too confident of his capabilities as a gambler but was not ready for it when unconsciously he used all of his assets first and started to use investors assets with hopes of turning or flipping the table in favor of his likeness but we all know that gambling does not work that way. This industry is full of uncertainties which should make it  needless to say why each gambler should be aware of what he is engaging himself with.
2464  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Woman won $43million but was offered a steak dinner instead of her winnings on: January 10, 2023, 10:31:43 PM
Why did they allow it to operate in the first play if it is already tagged as having flaws or if it has issues with malfunctions? That's just unfair. Also, what is their basis that the actual winning of Bookman was just $2.25? Data? Then they should show it but still, it is unfair. And the root cause is the casino being insensitive. It is impossible that they did not expect that players of the machine could win big, maybe not as big as the jackpot, so if that's the case, are they simply planning to just void every winnings on that machine? Awful. If things won't be provided with proof, Bookman could file a case against the casino because it could be fraud, an obvious one. The casino should atleast compensate her for winning big time.
2465  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How profitable it is possible to invest in bitcoins in the new year 2023. on: January 10, 2023, 04:13:21 PM
The situation in Bitcoin's market price is still not showing a clear trend line but if you would be able to hit the right entry and TP points, for sure you'd earn profit little by little depending on your margin. But if it is for a longer holding, then it is still hard to tell at this point. The year has just started and the market prices are still not showing huge price movements which makes an impression that prices could be a bit stagnant this year. But that is not to conclude. This technology in general is unpredictable; anything could happen because of various factors; could either be good or bad. So if you are planning and you don't want to 'gamble' that much, wait for the right time; when you're ready to endure inconsistencies and once there is a better viewpoint with the price's direction.
2466  Economy / Gambling / Re: Recommendations for Real Cryptocurrency Casinos on: January 10, 2023, 03:52:01 PM
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OP should explain in detail what is meant by real cryptocurrency casino he means, people get confused how to find the casino he is looking for properly, at least OP also gives the casino site he plays as an example, OP is looking for offchain or onchain casino sites, information the details will certainly help
OP already explained what he meant......twice actually

By "real" crypto casinos, I mean online casinos that operate exclusively using bitcoin (and other cryptocurrencies), rather than just allowing players to make deposits and withdrawals using cryptocurrencies.

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Actually, I'm not just interested in on-chain games, although those do fit the description. I'm interested in casinos that allow me to deposit and withdraw using cryptocurrency (such as BTC) without converting it to fiat currency. In other words, I want to be able to keep my entire bankroll in BTC (or other supported cryptocurrencies) while using the casino...
I think the OP can see a lot of casino reputation and has an active discussion thread in this forum, for example the Stake site or some other casino, actually what we recommend is also not necessarily suitable by the OP but I think playing at Stake is better enough as an opinion my personal
It has something to do with his preferred mode of payment wherein direct cryptocurrency as mode of payment to both withdrawal and deposit was more preferred by him. I'm not quite sure why but maybe because of the fees since convertion happens most of the time from crypto to gambling site's token or fiat based to cryptocurrency? On my end i'm fine with using the site's main coin. But I do get his point of betting in Bitcoin and earning bitcoin as well in return. It could be as well with the advocacy that this is a cryptogambling platform which makes sense using this technology as a mode of payment. Again, we just have our own preferences.
2467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's the best strategy for high wagering/low losses on plinko? on: January 10, 2023, 02:47:08 PM
There's a higher chance of it landing on the middle rows. Normal curve-based probability. I would suggest you focus more of your bets within the center, and then deviate a little here and there to cover a wider range. If you are shooting for a single bet high wager, however, this could still work but will not guarantee a win every time. So I would really suggest you drop multiple marbles instead of going all out on different bets, like what Jackg said.
That is way more profitable dropping in the center with multiple marbles so that it will easily move back and forth, side by side, in which the winning slots are mostly placed. Also, if you think you are losing already big on that day, I guess it’s smarter to just call it a day and leave. After all, this is still luck based game so strategies alone are not enough.
The ball won't move in accordance to what is anticipated because it would go randomly, on an actual plinko game. But since we are talking about virtual plinko, algorithm might take side and if not, it will again fall down to luck. indeed, forcing your fate on a pure luck based gambling game will just put you into a deeper hole. To some people, forcing one's luck leads to a better situation but I believe  that on a usual basis, frustration will never put you into a better outcome. if you are losing in this game and you are still down to play, try calibrating both your mood and luck by engaging to other gambling game and be back after a couple of games.
2468  Economy / Gambling / Re: New casino BTC game development on: January 10, 2023, 02:23:27 PM
Some of the games looks like a "white label" version of the Stake.com original games.... and we are seeing a lot of these copycat sites ..popping up everywhere. I was hoping to see some real originality in those games... but it's just too similar to all the rest.  Tongue

Is this a clever method to "sell" a white label version of your casino.... or are you genuinely looking for inputs to improve it? One thing that you might consider adding ... will be a PvP element to all those games.  Roll Eyes
It is quite becoming a norm, unfortunately. Well in reality, they are all on the same category offering gambling activities with slight differences; simply following what's selling to the audiences and what are not. What's unfortunate is the design and UI to the newer ones in this industry which makes 'copying' obvious just to attract existing players of the gambling site being copied. I'm not sure if these 'copied gambling sites' are aware that players won't moved towards their platform if the 'original' one is performing well and much more if it don't ('coz the negative image will be passed down to them). Given the similarities, for those who are just starting to introduce their own sites, the best way to attract players are thru promotions and bonuses, followed by good platform UI and ofcourse, in game support from devs for future developments.New concepts such as PVPs would be a good idea but I guess majority of gamblers are just not into such concept.
2469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can we really make a living in sports betting? on: January 10, 2023, 01:52:45 PM
In any kind of gambling, it will never be advisable to depend or rely that much on winning in this industry. Winning in the first place will never be certain even on sportsbetting wherein odds could be determined through data from players or teams. Anything could happen and that is how fate or luck plays a role in betting or gambling. Indeed there are people who made millions of profit from gambling but would it mean that I'd have the same earnings? Definitely not. There is a huge difference with each of the players' capital (the bigger it will be would generate bigger profit but would remain uncertain), gambling or betting strategy (anyhow won't mean certainty) and luck ofcourse. When it comes on a daily living, consistency is a must.
2470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Terra LUNA Classic Price Prediction 2023-2025 on: January 10, 2023, 10:51:32 AM


Terra Luna Classic (LUNA) Price Prediction 2023

The LUNC price was testing the support level of $0.00016041 and $0.00014382 quite a few times. It reversed from the support level of $0.00014382 and now trading inside the symmetrical triangle. As soon as it breaks out of the symmetrical triangle, we can expect a huge rise or fall in the coming weeks.
Meanwhile, our long-term LUNC price prediction for 2023 is bullish since it cannot break the present support level soon. We can expect LUNC to reach $0.00024944 in 2023.


Why of all the thousands of coins out there you choose LUNA, it just reminded people of the huge money they lose here and how one guy created a whole mess, and the whole industry suffered, there's no trust in this coin anymore and if the price is going up because there are whales who will pay people to shill it so they can dump their bag, this is a coin destined to oblivion and it gets shill because whales are looking to make a profit, then they will dump this project, Luna's glory days are over.
I have the same thoughts. Also, if a token has already a bad reputation, then why would you risk your funds investing into it? Everything especially market prices in this industry are solely dependent with the demand. Impression and image of the token highly affects the demand which I think makes it a risky investment. This is likewise with projects before which somehow made it to the top but eventually fall; the idea of them being able to be back on their feetm Such thing is possible but I only saw such instances with major coins of this technology annd the reason I guess is the community of users as well as the utility of those particular tokens.
2471  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: scammers use too much brain on: January 10, 2023, 09:57:51 AM
First thing is; if they want to victimize more people they need to level up their 'game'. Second is, many people are easily fooled by the idea of a "shirtcut to becoming rich".In reality, there are no such thing as 'easy money'; you have to work hard for it. Many people are falling for the same scheme ; send an amount to this address and get a reward. This still works because people does not think of why do platforms give something to people? Are they that generous? Sometimes it is our way of thinking which endangers us.
Scammers always have been one of the most creative people in industry. On one hand they did not invent nothing new, on the other, they adopt old tricks to modern situation. And I even think that some people even have special cells in brains, that tells them "to try how something work if they do things different way", and part of the scam are done after curiosity. But when curiosity and creativity meet greed and laziness, people lose money.

I think you give them more credit than they deserve. Most often it's a single scammer creating a new way to scam people, and then everyone else just copies it, and the cycle repeats every time new technology appears or just someone finds a new way to scam people. And most often it's not hard to recognize a scammer if you have more than 5 brain cells.
That is simply it. Always think as much as possible;, if something's sounding unrealistic why not avoid it or study for it to determine your asset's safety? than to just go with the impression that there is a way to win big time in this industry.
2472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are there truly crypto whales and what are your takes on them? on: January 09, 2023, 11:38:24 PM
Well there are, not only in this technology but to all industries. Whales are simply HUGE investors that can make a 'wave' or partial manipulation with the market price of something. But as others have mentioned already, the address OP have mentioned might probably be from an exchanger. But if you guys are really curious about it, try surfacing on this web or chains and you'd see wallet addresses holding huge amounts of cryptocurrencies.
There are definitely some super rich people, and they are either people who already had a lot of fiat and bought a lot of bitcoins, or people who did not have a lot of fiat but got lucky and bought bitcoin or some other coins for cheap. That is why I truly believe that there are whales because we know and can see some of the wallets, they are whales and it is proven by the wallets size.

I do not have that much connection or understanding towards any of them, never had that much money in my life, even in my dreams I am a lazy person so if I got lucky and had tens of millions of dollars, all I would want is a cool room with good pc and playstation and my books and just play games and nap, that's it, that's all I would want from life.
Not only on some known markets but also in cryptospace on where there are really that whales who do possess tons of money which they could really give out that kind of effect in the market if these whales would really be deciding to move as one which the financial capabilities or capacities of these people could really move out the market according to their likes.They do want to aim for more profits and this is why
manipulative acts is  really that something common to happen but its impossible to tell and point out and this is where it is really that totally unpredictable on where the price moves.
Some of time where technical analysis do works but it could mess up on an instant basing up with whales decisions.
On my awareness, sometimes they are the ones to create the direction which small investors like me, follows. Those movements are the slight and quick spikes with the market price of a particular token. We may see it on the order list of any exchanger especially if there's a news positive for this industry or a particular token. They are somehow 'supporters' of hype, I guess.
2473  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the $17,000+ bitcoin price breakout benchmark to new price direction on: January 09, 2023, 10:36:47 PM
Possible but could also stabilize at such market price point. I'd more hope for a higher market value if it would be able to reach $20k barrier, but also won't be certain. Everytime the market becomes bullish, news relative to the increase surfaces the web but there ain't any so if there will be a sudden increase at this point, I doubt that it would be continuous. There was a huge downfall fro its ATH so I guess there should be something 'big' in order to be back to its original price and that is what I am hoping for if not this year, for next year, in relation with the next anticipated Bitcoin halving. But ofcourse if it is possible for the increase to take place earlier, then that would be better for sure.
2474  Economy / Economics / Re: The Taste of an Economic Downturn on: January 09, 2023, 04:25:30 PM
The world's economy is currently in trouble, and the world's mercies are currently in difficulty,  Things are getting more expensive and difficult for average people to meet up with, for example, food prices have risen above expectations, and onions in your country been $12.57 per kilo, which is shocking because, in my region onion is as low as 0.15 dollars, seen the price of onion in your country is not funny at all. Country life is also getting more difficult than it was for those of us who were born in Africa.
The only way to cope up with the increase on the price of marketable goods is to also put an increase with the minimum salary of the employees. Unfortunately, not all economies cannot do such thing which causes sufferings to average households. Corruption is a different thing but for sure related to this issue. Many governments has the capability to aid the situation but are closing their eyes and are just putting people's money on their pockets. In terms of private companies, they are mostly seeking just to be rich without checking on people who made them one. Third world countries are the ones whoch suffers the most. I'm aware of the existence of such problem for years but nowadays is definitely worse.
2475  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Failure of Exchnages can never be that of Bitcoin. on: January 09, 2023, 04:06:28 PM
People are just fond of correlating things which are not even in line with one another. Unfortunately, the reaction affects the industry which contributes to the market downfall. Some investors are still afraid to engage at the present with crypto investment in fear that exchangers will cause additional risks with their assets without realizig that from the past years, this is only one of the rare instance wherein an exchange became negligent with their fund. People are disregarding that there are responsible and useful exchangers to move their assets with whether centralized or decentralized ones.
This seems to be a confusion not just to many ordinary people but even among the leaders in congress who investigated the case of FTX. Sometimes it is easy to generalize crypto companies, crypto applications, even other cryptocurrencies as Bitcoin. They are not.

If Bitcoin is being doubted because FTX failed, then they haven't understood a thing about Bitcoin. This must also be the generalization of some members of congress who failed to understand that centralized exchanges like FTX isn't Bitcoin, doesn't represent Bitcoin. In fact, they are the opposite of Bitcoin.
I doubt with the 'opposite' it is more of a product being used in a platform. The platform is exchanger while the product is Bitcoin. But that's indeed true, generalization has never done good to any industry; it just makes the situation worse.
2476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HELP, I want betting/gambling tokens in crypto portfolio for 2025 on: January 09, 2023, 03:34:14 PM
I am still building my long term crypto portfolio and I've add almost all available crypto genres to my wallet including

Play to Earn
Layer 0, 1, 2
A.I Projects
Move to Earn
Storage & Data etc

But I have not add any gambling token to my list at all, I went on coin market cap and I saw many gambling tokens, I never knew they are that much in number. My questions is

Is there any reason to add gambling tokens to my crypto portfolio? What drives their value? Do they appreciate in value just like other altcoins whenever we are in a bull market?

If you are in my shoe right now, what gambling token do you think you can take a risk on and add to your crypto portfolio and why?
As others have mentioned, if it is for a long run growth with the market value of gambling tokens, then it's a no. Most of the gambling token's market prices either fall down after the release of the project or stabilize at a certain price point. Reason I guess is utility, supply and demand. It has a huge supply most of the time because it is being used on the gambling site itself, resulting to a low demand simply because gambling tokens are easily earned. Gambling tokens are a good investment before the project release but problem would be determining which is which. The thing that you would anticipate is the spike of its price depending on the potential of the project itself.
2477  Economy / Speculation / Re: January bitcoin price out look on: January 09, 2023, 03:09:08 PM
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The question now is with the current bitcoin price outlook what is the possible bitcoin January price outlook you can speculate on based on your personal market analyses?
For me, Bitcoin will stay on this level right now. Not higher that $20,000 and not less than $15,000.
This is a good start to the year 2023, where Bitcoin breached above $17,000 already but my bearish vision for Bitcoin is still there. I believe we will do more sideways and not really good if you are trading to these level right now.

If it is for this month, then yes this is more likely to happen. But if it is for the whole year, then it is still blurry at this moment. Unlike with last year's market behavior, nothing's being anticipated for this year. The increase which we are all waiting for, on my end, is more likely to happen on 2024 because of the halving. But not as well to close the door of excitement for this year, something could still occur which may yield to a higher iterest in this industry such as huge countries accepting this technology. The factors which contributed with the downfall are still being felt but atleast, not as 'noisy' as before. So yes, holding and waiting for now would be good until a clear trend line appears.
2478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Businesses That Accept Bitcoin Attract New Customers and Sales on: January 09, 2023, 02:41:35 PM
I doubt with attracting new customers and sales especially at this point wherein the market is still on bearish trend. People who are in this industry would hesitate to spend their assets on a daily basis because of the tendency to earn profit from holding. With regards to non-crypto users, same thing would happen I guess. What I am trying to point out is; people are still not ready for massive adoption of this technology and would still be as long as volatility is high on the market price of not only Bitcoin but also with other cryptocurrencies. This will only work at the present with crypto-related projects but I just doubt that it would as well be good for businesses;maybe in the future.
2479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will Cassino Continue With Wagering Requirements, If Abuse is Eliminated? on: January 09, 2023, 02:20:53 PM
Everything which is free would be prone to abuse. It depends on the casino on the other hand whether they will contiue with this kind of promotion or not especially if they are not gaining from it, in relation with abuse from players. Wagering requirements I guess should contiue. Personally I have no problem with that ofcourse if it would benefit the platform itself as well than to see a good casino on bankruptcy because they were abused by players. It is a business they are running and they have the rights to limit something if it would cross their borders.
the reality is, there will always be abusers. i don't think it can be eliminated especially if the casino is not requiring kyc to its customers. even some licensed casinos are still not requiring kyc for their small time bettors. so it is far from happening that abuse will be eliminated in my opinion.
the possibility is - they may lower their wagering requirements but they will keep certain conditions to avoid rampant abuse of their bonuses or rewards.

I agree with your statement. People will always try to abuse a free system wherein they would create multiple accounts to take advantage of all the free bonuses provided by the gambling website. That is the reason on why gambling websites have created "wagering requirements" in order to combat abuse. Even if a person creates multiple accounts to gamble and get the bonus, he/she has to satisfy the wagered amount required, which is set by the gambling website in order to give them the security.

These kinds of things happen even in real life. Once an opportunity comes, people would take advantage and exercise all the means to abuse it.
Just the reality. I can see this close with P2Es which collapsed on the long run because the economy of the game cannot sustain the abuse happening against their platform.
2480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Are Players Going To Trust Casinos If They Don't Show Solid Evidence on: January 08, 2023, 04:05:58 PM

Many casino's defenses are like that.
Probably you are on the wrong casino to play with. Gambling sites which has a good reputation would take actions with necessity and that includes providing proof and explanation if a player violated something, as well as with withdrawal or payment transactions. And that would characterize evidence of a certain action. I suggest moving to others; there are plenty of online gambling sites which are not having major issues regarding what OP have mentioned. If they would depend with a vague statement, then that is where the problem starts for them. The players has rights to know what they did wrong and for them to make use of it in order to change what's wrong on their end  Again, if you're suspiscious of a gambling site, observe and avoid if things would get worse..
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