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2481  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH scam exposed at the Satoshi Roundtable retreat! on: March 01, 2016, 08:29:18 PM
Lol.

"What must happen is Dash's market cap must collapse and be absorbed by Monero"

Lol, I saw you on trollbox, you try hard. Why are you all day long talking about monero?
Look so desesperare to me. You are dangerous, always lying about future, always trying to drive people pumping your shit. Accept it nobody know what future will be, please don't play with other people money.
Be honest and stop your f*cking manipulation and brain washing.
 
 
I didn't say it would be jubilant, nor am I excited about others losing money.  But simply put - the world is not big enough for two anonymous coins when one has clearly superior tech and a non-shady distribution.  I won't go through an exhaustive list of Dash's sins here - it's been beaten up.  Suffice it to say, it must eventually collapse: either fast or slow. 
 
My bet is it won't happen slowly.  Capitulation will come quickly, and I would not want to be one of the hard working true believers in Dash when that happens.  I intend to leave Dash alone after today, but I wanted to say my peace just in case any were listening and could be convinced.


Say my *piece. Not say my peace.


Let he who is without typos throw the first stone.

Or the fact that ethereum developers are free to develop the platform without being held to ransom by the whims of whales will let them create a better network and greater prosperity and benefit to mankind.
  Huh

Your explanation of what rep is is retarded.

Rep allows you to earn money from reporting on the reault of bets on the augur decentralised prediction market.

I can look back further if you persist being the town spellcheck jerk, but I'd rather not have to slog through pages of ethereum shrillzing.
2482  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 09:04:29 PM
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We are the 98 pound genius weakling at the beach. We are still going to get sand kicked in our face. We need to be all 'round good, not excellent, or even the best in some areas, but pitifully deficient in others.

If we're using comic book metaphors, I think we're about to become X-Men's Beast - superhuman strength with genius level intellect.
LOL, good one! Remember Peter Parker, before he was bitten by the spider. A 98 pound weakling genius himself, and then he got the spider powers. I just don't want us to have Peter Parker's terrible timing, and Peter Parker's luck!

Your metaphor is wrong. It's more like a carnival barker claiming that what is behind the curtain is "Stupendous, mighty, earth shatteringly strong and will destroy all who get in its way!"

Which maybe once or twice should get you to bet against BTC or XMR, opensource technologies that do what they say and how they say it and don't need a manager to pimp their wares. After hearing this over and over again with every new coin that's built on hype and promises, maybe you should be a little less panicky and a little more confident in what is right here in front of you.  

No one is stopping you from betting a little (or everything) on what's behind the curtain, so if you believe all the hype, go for it.
2483  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: February 29, 2016, 06:43:15 PM
The author deleted the post I linked here a few days ago, but this is the revision:

https://socialecologies.wordpress.com/2016/02/27/the-age-of-surveillance-control-societies-in-a-networked-world/
2484  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [SDC] ShadowCash Uncensored: Zeuner, Zero Knowledge, Zero Trust. What Happened? on: February 29, 2016, 09:54:20 AM
A book based on the first year of ShadowCash is currently in progress.  Here is the preliminary front cover:



I have already published five books:

http://www.amazon.com/Mr-Chris-P.-Thompson/e/B00S5L3PVM/ref=ntt_dp_epwbk_0

This year I plan to release more books than in the year 2015.  


I wasn't even invited to write the foreword!
Without it this history will only last about 10 pages - what on earth is this guy gonna write about? How there was no peer review, android wallet or market? That SDC was deanon'd? That Tecnovert left and Ryno is a recluse? I dunno. Everything the author needs is in this thread.

hey smooth, you want me to buy you a copy?
(seriously though, he's gonna sell maybe 2 copies)





I'll buy a copy if Shen signs it.
2485  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero Speculation on: February 29, 2016, 01:41:38 AM

How much did Fluffy have to drink?
2486  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH scam exposed at the Satoshi Roundtable retreat! on: February 29, 2016, 01:17:35 AM
People will die if their shitcoin fails the anonymity test!   Won't someone think of the poor Arab children!  Is that the overbearing,  extremely exaggerated argument here?
Our friends are now saying DASH is going to kill people?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1379833.0

Apparently has issues with DASH marketing.....make what you will of what he said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd7F-10lxM&feature=youtu.be&t=1522

EDIT: oh, apparently the arrogant guy slurring on the video is fluffy.



fluffypony was not spreading FUD. He speaks the truth.  Evan is welcome to be interviewed by Bitcoin Uncensored to address these concerns and answer some technical questions.

Something tells me that Evan will not be interested in being interviewed by someone who will ask difficult questions. Lets see if Evan proves me wrong and makes his community proud.

Evan do you have the courage to be interviewed this weekend?

Ceti's The Pharmacist has always been contextually challenged. In the context of someone believing Dash's claims of anonymity, using it, and then having their ID revealed to an authoritarian government, yes they very well could be killed. Ceti's a moron if he thinks Ric said that using Dash in and of itself will kill you--though my guess is he is trying to spin it however he can, even if it makes himself look like a fool.
2487  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH scam exposed at Satoshi Roundtable REKD on: February 28, 2016, 07:47:37 PM
Not a single piece of HARD-CORE evidence against DASH.

I'm still waiting for somebody to BREAK - DASH -

PROVE it does not work!!
but
You can't - either because you don't know HOW
or
It truly cannot be broken......

All talk and NO action(s) will get you NO WHERE!!!!!

20+ hour mix times are a fail.

Also, Evan himself has said off protocol anonymity (which is what dash currently employs) is weaker than protocol level anonymity, which is why protocol level anonymity is promised with the evolution release--though without peer review and with Evan's history of promising the moon, mars and the sun, I highly doubt he has the skillset to do any such thing. Weird that dash fanboys keep contradicting what the coin's creator only just now realized after months of criticism--that his masternode privacy scheme is inferior to protocol level solutions. Evan spent so much time preaching his false doctrine that his followers (at least those out of the loop) are caught believing the lie.
2488  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Etherium and Dash on: February 28, 2016, 07:28:25 PM
I ask myself all the time : why are people attacking threads like these ?

is it insecurity ?
fear ?
hate ?

Most likely a bit of all
 

FTFY

I'm not sure if Ethereum is a scam (doubt it, seems like it is promising too much though), but I do know a coin with an "accidental" instamine (with a convenient  emissions cut soon after) is a sign of a scam. I also know cramming 11 algos together is a good way to design an insecure coin (if only someone's "chief scientist" could figure this out). I also know (and Evan agrees after months of anyone who knows anything saying so) that protocol level anonymity is way better than depending on nodes to do it. I also know that vapor ware without peer review is a sure sign of a scam or a dev who is in way over his head--guess we'll have to wait six to nine months to see which is true for dash's evolution.

When you figure out the poorly constructed pontoon is sinking, Qwizzie, there's a perfectly constructed aircraft carrier in swimming distance. But I get the feeling that Evan will say, "We're going to find the lost treasure of Atlantis!" and all those on the SS Dashtard will die thinking they can breath under water.
2489  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH scam exposed at Satoshi Roundtable REKD on: February 28, 2016, 03:58:11 PM
With the exception of those knowingly propagating the scam I don't think anyone "deserves to go down with the ship".  I want to rescue (through education) as many people as I can.

 
 
Unfortunately Mein Fuhrer just heard about the debacle and he is not pleased. 
 
http://captiongenerator.com/79795/Fuhrer-Hears-Report-on-Satoshi-Roundtable

Such LOLZ! My favorite is the woman telling the other, "Don't worry, it's still under a dollar." And the general reaching for his phone.  Grin
2490  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH scam exposed at Satoshi Roundtable REKD on: February 28, 2016, 11:47:20 AM
Sorry fellas, but no matter how many threads you guys start, no matter how many videos you produce, no matter how many insults and conjecture you spin, Dash is not going away.

Has anyone de-anonymized an eight-round Darksend transaction yet? That's what I thought.

People who trust Dash will be just fine.

Buffoons with delusions of grandeur just make for a sideshow on Dash's way to becoming a major global medium of exchange.

Thanks for the laughs, though! Now I've got to get back to bringing people into Dash...(outside the forums, of course).

Outside this forum is about the only place you can con anyone into believing dash has good anonymity features, x11 isn't flawed, and "decentralized" governance can be achieved with a coin that's ownership is centralized through the process (intentional or not) of a hefty instamine layered with a hefty reduction in coins. I have yet to meet people this stupid outside of the dash ann, but I'm sure they are out there--so happy hunting.
2491  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DASH scam exposed at Satoshi Roundtable REKD on: February 28, 2016, 10:04:12 AM
Our friends are now saying DASH is going to kill people?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1379833.0

Apparently has issues with DASH marketing.....make what you will of what he said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKd7F-10lxM&feature=youtu.be&t=1522

EDIT: oh, apparently the arrogant guy slurring on the video is fluffy.



fluffypony was not spreading FUD. He speaks the truth.  Evan is welcome to be interviewed by Bitcoin Uncensored to address these concerns and answer some technical questions.

Something tells me that Evan will not be interested in being interviewed by someone who will ask difficult questions. Lets see if Evan proves me wrong and makes his community proud.

Evan do you have the courage to be interviewed this weekend?

Ceti's always been contextually challenged. In the context of someone believing Dash's claims of anonymity, using it, and then having their ID revealed to an authoritarian government, yes they very well could be killed. Ceti's a moron if he thinks Ric said that using Dash in and of itself will kill you--though my guess is he is trying to spin it however he can, even if it makes himself look like a fool.
2492  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: February 27, 2016, 08:44:06 AM

Given our understanding of the brain has gone away from the Freudian equivalent of blood letting to mapping and chemical diagnosis of maladies in the last fifty years, I doubt this is the technological leap anyone is making it out to be--especially when more of our day to day information is being tracked and to a greater degree (who's to say people in five years won't be monitored 24/7 and have that data plugged into a database that could be incorporated when dna brain simulation exist--not to mention that most psychology is tilted towards the belief that genetics is the most determinate factor in who a person is (usually citing the overwhelming similarities in identical twins separated at birth with dissimilar locations and family elements). I'd rather not get into a debate, so let's just leave this here, and in ten years, see if brain simulation is as plausible as holodecks and android body parts controlled with our minds have become in the last ten years.


I`m not saying building a sophisticated AI is impossible, far from it.

I`m only saying that this mind control or mind reading stuff is impossible.



Building an AI to emulate human behaviour and reading the mind of a human is totally different things, and the latter is impossible.

Why? Because the mind is a web of quantum-electric phenomena, and we know from quantum physics that it's impossible to localize particles, therefore any info that is stored in this domain is impossible to grab.

Dont worry God or whatever made this universe has made sure that the government wont get hold of your mind  Wink

I can wait ten years to be right.  Wink

(An AI to emulate human behavior misses what the singularity is about--the singularity is that threshold when the organic brain can't process the technological world around it and will need artificial apparatus to keep up--nanobots being the current leader in what's being developed to achieve this--most likely we don't create an AI, we become an AI with more and more of our functions (brain and body) being processed by artificial means--and yes, most likely to 100% given enough time. So doubtful these uber humans will have any more trouble simulating our current organic brain, with a fair degree of accuracy, than that of a rat. Though this line of thought gives me hope that technology keeps pace in the privacy front as well--to where the technology that allows us to read thoughts also allows us to mask them. On the other hand, my reading on capitalism and acceleratism makes me think that we will become more and more integrated with a centralized network to the point that one cannot realize themselves from the machine, but given the cliche' of becoming one with the universe, perhaps this is the best state we can hope to attain--)
2493  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: February 26, 2016, 09:42:25 PM

That's also what I think. A brain is way to complex to replicate.

But I still believe that this domain could be useful in certain more vague domains, because you would only need to simulate an "average" approximative brain. This could be useful in a lot of ways, but would not be a "hard" science, a bit like economic previsions.

They already do this it's called psychology.... Cheesy

If you are interested in the average behaviour of humans, you should study that, many things can be predicted by that.

So it's nothing out of the ordinary here, but from this quantum mind reading technique, i dont think it's physically possible.


A couple of powerhungry people want to be gods, but they will soon realize that it will not happen.

Given our understanding of the brain has gone away from the Freudian equivalent of blood letting to mapping and chemical diagnosis of maladies in the last fifty years, I doubt this is the technological leap anyone is making it out to be--especially when more of our day to day information is being tracked and to a greater degree (who's to say people in five years won't be monitored 24/7 and have that data plugged into a database that could be incorporated when dna brain simulation exist--not to mention that most psychology is tilted towards the belief that genetics is the most determinate factor in who a person is (usually citing the overwhelming similarities in identical twins separated at birth with dissimilar locations and family elements). I'd rather not get into a debate, so let's just leave this here, and in ten years, see if brain simulation is as plausible as holodecks and android body parts controlled with our minds have become in the last ten years.

2494  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Ethereum Paradox on: February 26, 2016, 08:14:19 PM
Allow me to play doubles advocate here for a moment. For all intensive purposes I think you are wrong. In an age where false morals are a diamond dozen, true virtues are a blessing in the skies.

Language is malleable--some have little trouble adapting to new usages, while others fight it tough and nail in the name of virtue or some other inane principle.  I hope when you're older that you realize how ridiculous it is to apply hard rules on language, especially on a forum where new usages are a source of communal pride. I won't hodl my breath though.  Roll Eyes
2495  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: February 26, 2016, 06:52:58 PM


One of my friends used the 23andme service a couple of years ago (sending in both material from him as well as his wife), before it was clear that genetic info was at risk to being turned over to .gov.  He got a lot of interesting information (including a surprise that his wife may have some TAIWANESE ancestry -- she doubts that and has no Oriental features at all).

He also found certain propensities to health problems and other factoids.  He still gets an occasional update from them when they invent a new procedure.

I WAS interested.  Now not so much.

Our .gov has proved over and over that you give them an inch (one iPhone's password info), and they want a mile (tap into iPhones to catch a drug dealer).

My fear is when quantum computers come online and someone will be able to do a brain simulation based on your genetic code.
2496  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Ethereum Paradox on: February 26, 2016, 06:19:41 PM
No.  You are wrong.  A copy editor would strike out that usage of "shrill".

Repeatedly misusing a word in the wrong grammar and the wrong context betrays a kind of myopia that is quite relevant to this thread.

You can't suddenly decide to coin new usages of words in a forum discussion.  This isn't a poem or a piece of creative writing this is a technical discussion.

Both you and anonymint are wrong.

Hodl up, are you saying this is an academic setting and there are editors stalking about? Such lolz, such shrilz.  Tongue
2497  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Ethereum Paradox on: February 26, 2016, 03:54:01 PM
Shrilling

There you go again.  "Shrill" cannot be used as in "someone is shrilling". It is grammatically incorrect and reads horribly.  I read somehwere you were over 50.  How have you managed this many years on planet earth without learning the basics of the english language?

Someone is shrilling about the rules of grammar without actually knowing the rules of grammar.

Lets use some examples to illustrate how common TPTB's usage is: "He is programming the coin to act as decentralized cash. She is speculating Dash is on its last leg. Mike Hearn is harping on Bitcoin's politics."

It's being used as a present participle verb in your example, so I'm not sure why you think it is being used incorrectly. Am I missing something? Even if you change the tense, the function is the same:

"He was making a shrill sound. He was shrilling all night about grammar and some guy online. He will shrill the song so badly, that none of us will want to hear it again."

Given that shrill is a noun, an adjective, an adverb, and a verb, it would be hard to argue that it can't be used in any of those functions. Though the verb form of shrill is of older decent and perhaps sounds out of date, it doesn't mean it can't be used in that tense or come back in vogue similarly to the reemergence of the word trolling, which has much more to do with making something go around and around in a circular way than it does with monsters who live under bridges. I also think you are missing that TPTB_need_war has cross-bred the words shrill and shill to create a very descriptive word that can be used interchangeably for shill and shrill. Words are very adaptive and new usages can add richness to the language and a greater degree of precision in speech--personally, I like this addition.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shrill





Yes but you still cant be 'a shrill'. His usage was wrong and weird. You and him are both wrong get over it

I was correct. I was correcting the quoted material and you are incorrect as I pointed out. I wasn't following or referencing any prior arguments--though I pointed out that TPTB_need_war's coinage of shill+shrill is perfectly fine (Shakespeare coined as many phrases as anyone and it would be tough find a more masterful user of the English language). The point of language is communication and precision, and shrill encapsulates an angry shill better than any other word I've seen--would you rather him say shrill-shill like a Dr. Seuss' character?


But he isn't shakespeare.  He's a doddery old man who repeatedly spells the word "shill" wrong as "shrill". In fact I've never seen him spell it right.

I am still correct as you cannot be "a shrill". You can be shrill, you can sound shrill but you can not "be a shrill" be a shrill what? Exactly it sounds wrong and stupid.

You're correct if you assume he can't coin a new word, which is a pretty absurd presumption. It reminds me when the dictionary makers tried to pick and choose words, not based on what people said and meant, but on their own preferences.
 

Noun 1. shrilling - a continuing shrill noise; "the clash of swords and the shrilling of trumpets"--P. J. Searles

A sound can be a shrill, just as a sound can be a thump or screech, the sentence, "I heard a shrill outside my door," is no more incorrect as, "I heard a thump outside my door, " or "I heard a screech outside my door."

I'm trying to think of a sound that doesn't have this property, but it seems most sounds can be used as noun and verb. I think your confusion is that it is almost entirely used as adjective and adverb, which can make it sound outlandish to the modern ear (not that that is the way TPTB_need_war was using it or intended it). Personally I like its use to describe a shill who is shrilling text to hide the flaws in whatever product he is endorsing. Stop your shrilling seems like it could be the mantra for everyone tired of wading through endless diatribes and meaningless text.


Language isn't a set of objective rules, it's more of "what is standard, what is accepted, and what is preferred"--none of which lends itself well to "you're wrong" argumentation. A great example is Emily Dickinson's inventions in punctuation--are you going to tell her she can't invent punctuation or her poems aren't written correctly? Many an editor who did, now looks like an imbecile for missing her genius.

2498  Economy / Economics / Re: Economic Totalitarianism on: February 26, 2016, 08:26:39 AM
http://futurism.com/echoing-apples-concerns-privacy-ancestry-com-23andme-fighting-cops-request-customer-dna/ Lips sealed
2499  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Ethereum Paradox on: February 25, 2016, 01:51:53 PM
Shrilling

There you go again.  "Shrill" cannot be used as in "someone is shrilling". It is grammatically incorrect and reads horribly.  I read somehwere you were over 50.  How have you managed this many years on planet earth without learning the basics of the english language?

Someone is shrilling about the rules of grammar without actually knowing the rules of grammar.

Lets use some examples to illustrate how common TPTB's usage is: "He is programming the coin to act as decentralized cash. She is speculating Dash is on its last leg. Mike Hearn is harping on Bitcoin's politics."

It's being used as a present participle verb in your example, so I'm not sure why you think it is being used incorrectly. Am I missing something? Even if you change the tense, the function is the same:

"He was making a shrill sound. He was shrilling all night about grammar and some guy online. He will shrill the song so badly, that none of us will want to hear it again."

Given that shrill is a noun, an adjective, an adverb, and a verb, it would be hard to argue that it can't be used in any of those functions. Though the verb form of shrill is of older decent and perhaps sounds out of date, it doesn't mean it can't be used in that tense or come back in vogue similarly to the reemergence of the word trolling, which has much more to do with making something go around and around in a circular way than it does with monsters who live under bridges. I also think you are missing that TPTB_need_war has cross-bred the words shrill and shill to create a very descriptive word that can be used interchangeably for shill and shrill. Words are very adaptive and new usages can add richness to the language and a greater degree of precision in speech--personally, I like this addition.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/shrill





Yes but you still cant be 'a shrill'. His usage was wrong and weird. You and him are both wrong get over it

I was correct. I was correcting the quoted material and you are incorrect as I pointed out. I wasn't following or referencing any prior arguments--though I pointed out that TPTB_need_war's coinage of shill+shrill is perfectly fine (Shakespeare coined as many phrases as anyone and it would be tough find a more masterful user of the English language). The point of language is communication and precision, and shrill encapsulates an angry shill better than any other word I've seen--would you rather him say shrill-shill like a Dr. Seuss' character?
2500  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Ethereum Paradox on: February 25, 2016, 09:51:44 AM
Well, well, if you consider that my post today basically points out that scripting on a block chain can never be secure unless the security is centralized (and you trust that centralized manager), then basically the writing is on the wall that China already controls Bitcoin and they also want to control the centralized scripting block chain.

Decentralized crypto currency and block chains are currently dead. We only have centralized. The internet is being destroyed.

China may be mining BTC with free electricity (cost charged to the collective), thus the ETH is essentially free for them at any price. And they can't sell all the BTC they mine without driving the BTC price down.

On the next halving, China's % of the hashrate will increase from the current 65%.

If you read the essay that I posted on ET, you'll see the philosophical argument that we are moving toward centralized systems in all aspects of life--the economy just happens to be one aspect of a larger network. To misquote Woody Allen, "The network wants what the network wants." Replacing capitalism with network just gets at the heart of what's being created.

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