Just an FYI to newer players, and I'll be pushing this until Clans is implemented, there is gambling. I made 7mil today in about 45mins, so it's not a bad hobby to have  http://palazzo.cryptokingdom.me/login.php |
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Spoetnik brought up the points concerning end-to-end encryption in general, not only for Monero.
It's pointless. If they want you, they'll get you, at the endpoints, one way or another.
It's a honeypot feature.
After all, we could focus on more important features than anonymity, it just doesn't exist.
100% car safety doesn't exist either, that doesn't mean you strap jet engines on go-karts and claim "that's the best we can do." Even if Monero only offers me anonymity from ransomware artists, then it's an upgrade from most every coin. Degree of difficulty (in the case of discovering my financial information) and ease of use (in achieving good ospec) count for something in this debate--sad that it gets overlooked, but not at all surprising given the "fud-blastiness" of the critics. |
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CryptoKingdom exist. MK is the political governance model built off of its design.
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Please also note that DIS is illegal to own in larger quantities than 5 with the exception of system accounts such as NPCCs. I don't think the original intention was to DIS to be sold from NPCCs; those who bought large quantities of DIS may breach the current legal limit of 5 per (non-noble) character, so please take this into account. We can revert such trades if it was an accidental "bargain purchase" in my humble opinion, as NPCCs are an exception being system accounts.
I asked GM about this on IRC and he said there would be no fine for owning more than the previous listed limit. |
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how did you became sr.member without knowing this basic info?
it's clear how much this rankings mean
btw, to answer your question, check monero and zcash
and what does that have to do with the question? who said only tech geeks are investing in crypto coins? white paper information could be easily "manipulated" by devs and an analysis from a IT engineer would be a deal breaker. BTW, ranking only means time/post, not knowledge.. That's why you need approval from strong community with core beliefs, as far as caring about what privacy entails, Monero has the strongest community, with a subset of BTC Devs who have similar standards. Authority isn't as good as real data, but if you don't have an understanding of cryptographic systems, then you have to trust someone, or at least know what each module is supposed to do. |
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Narrow focus? So a continual fire of deployment mechanisms, won't interfere with every market? He made an actual use case with MK as to it being a viable db for from-the-ground-up organizations--that's crazy, and that was the first one out.
Broad is a set of tools for others to create software with, not a specific implementation of software. For example a widely popular protocol or programming language. A useful metric is probably the number of software developers investing in your toolchain. And we want to broaden that to include knowledge creation of every form, not just software. Where does a "safe" DB and quality API figure into the tool set? If the database is to be publicized then it can't be obfuscated. So what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Hide private organization? The Db setup is a back-up of all the market events in the game, so it's more of a score keeper than anything, since it's only game money, it only counts when you leave the virtual deck But my point ever since the start of our debate has been that databases (and thus currencies) have to be globally public for them to have mass effects. The Internet is a massive public database protocol. Those who put it behind obfuscated paywalls reduce its beneficial network effects. CK is in the open, that's my point, it latches onto the best anon available as a means of flowing through endless piping of executable commands and coins. You'd have to bill sony, blizzard and Microsoft for their side-gaming revenues, which you could do, but the threat of decentralization keeps Chinese control systems on blast, while you let Westerners gamble their hard earned virtual capitol. |
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Narrow focus? So a continual fire of deployment mechanisms, won't interfere with every market? He made an actual use case with MK as to it being a viable db for from-the-ground-up organizations--that's crazy, and that was the first one out.
Broad is a set of tools for others to create software with, not a specific implementation of software. For example a widely popular protocol or programming language. A useful metric is probably the number of software developers investing in your toolchain. And we want to broaden that to include knowledge creation of every form, not just software. Where does a "safe" DB and quality API figure into the tool set? If the database is to be publicized then it can't be obfuscated. So what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Hide private organization? The Db setup is a back-up of all the market events in the game, so it's more of a score keeper than anything, since it's only game money, it only counts when you leave the virtual deck |
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Narrow focus? So a continual fire of deployment mechanisms, won't interfere with every market? He made an actual use case with MK as to it being a viable db for from-the-ground-up organizations--that's crazy, and that was the first one out.
Broad is a set of tools for others to create software with, not a specific implementation of software. For example a widely popular protocol or programming language. A useful metric is probably the number of software developers investing in your toolchain. And we want to broaden that to include knowledge creation of every form, not just software. Where does a "safe" DB and quality API figure into the tool set? Secondary question: What if all things are merging towards a chaos point, and ideas are the only things that have enough velocity to survive an event horizon--they get to us scrambled, but through some time-saving schizoanalysis, we can reconfigure the ideas through multiple languages? And then it becomes a question of who's interpretation is correct, and the circle of life can renew then only quest it ever knew--survival |
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Game on Absolutely no way that Risto can build a software ecosystem. It isn't within his set of skills. The world will choose the software ecosystem that is the most widely used. Economies-of-scale are needed which we can't get by focusing so narrowly as CK is. Narrow focus? So a continual fire of deployment mechanisms, won't interfere with every market? He made an actual use case with MK as to it being a viable db for from-the-ground-up organizations--that's crazy, and that was the first one out. SEMI-CORRECTION: PGC was the first corporation out, so if we are talking strictly portals (and not distinguishing political organizations), then that would be the first. |
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If those google employees who can't work near their headquarters (1.4-6? million average home estimate), start using game worlds to store virtual assets, then you know you're wrong.
That may be true that smart people will figure out how to store value in game assets, perhaps with complex derivative/gambling schemes. But my point is that Crypto Kingdom will just become another game in the ecosystem I want to create. My point is that my project subsumes Crypto Kingdom. Game on |
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I got where you got in 2013 with just some CAN and a Faulkner quotation. Jking aside, once people gather that abstract value, is well, abstract, then they move headlong into the waters of a healthy understanding that authority is the dude at the end of the rainbow. If those google employees who can't work near their headquarters (1.4-6? million average home estimate), start using game worlds to store virtual assets, then you know you're wrong. There's the bet. How much you in for? I've got everything riding on it  |
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No. As long as you can show work, you can create an honest value assessment. You're arguing too many things at once--stick with understanding how value escapes, then focus on how that value is reconfigured for the knowledge age. Value is an abstract beholden by real work, the signifier will carry it to the exit point and what reemerges is just a virtualization that escapes traditional banking controls. Or at least that is the bet--the very fact that you are arguing its worth should tell you something though. And you may be right about 600 years, but we get back to it, and I'm betting the other way--because who wants to live with people who want to live in the dark? |
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Copying this from r0ach's thread, because very relevant here: What you say here might hold water if there was only one cryptocoin. The fact is there are hundreds and there will be thousands upon thousands of them in the coming years. Decentralization comes from every one having an easy way to create their own money/token and embed usefulness in it, to work to make it valuable. Some will succeed in this endeavor, most will fail, it doesn't matter. Decentralization is in breaking monopoly of state on creation of money and having everyone and their mother create some sort of loyalty points with value that others are willing to work for. This will be the end of state monopoly on money, this is what decentralization is about.
If all the altcoins are just the same power vacuum failure, then no diversification is attained. And my answer, still relevant: Do they distribute LSD along with Crypto Kongdung.
I'll dumb it down for you: two things you can't stop in this world, gambling and progress. I'll dumb it up metaphorically for you: diversification of steel rolly pollies is an oxymoron. Talk to the quants who modeled diversification of hedge funds before the collapse of LTCM. repair industry is the winning bet here You don't seem to understand that prediction markets fail when their boards are all sinking in the same quicksand (i.e. the same light bulb behind the star cutouts in your upthread metaphor). Currency doesn't function fragmented. There is no relativity of multiple currencies. Currency is a loss of degrees-of-freedom paradigm. The winner is the one who scales a new currency. There is no long-term panacea. Huh? There's no long term solution to the knowledge problem (how do you run out of questions to study?), but that doesn't stop academics from spending their whole life to studying one question--why? We gamble that our life has some purpose--it's irrational, yeah, but people do it every day--anyone who's jumped off a cliff or skydives know it feels good to be alive--and no amount of game theory is going to change that risk assessment. Technologies evolve, and a lot of technologies die along the way, my point is the human desire to exit the current system is the thing that keeps decentralization going--systems reach critical mass points and KABOOM! We're left realigning the jenga pieces of value scattered on the floor of civilization. But if you had gotten this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1319681.msg17013410#msg17013410 (don't worry; I bolded the point), we could go back to creating exit points for wealth acquired through wealth--once we stop being able to do that, we are indeed something other than human. |
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I just had the 6 days of my life.
So, you leave the teaser and then don't follow? What happened? And on the 7th day...(just a guess) |
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Do they distribute LSD along with Crypto Kongdung.
I'll dumb it down for you: two things you can't stop in this world, gambling and progress. I'll dumb it up metaphorically for you: diversification of steel rolly pollies is an oxymoron. Talk to the quants who modeled diversification of hedge funds before the collapse of LTCM. repair industry is the winning bet here You don't seem to understand that prediction markets fail when their boards are all sinking in the same quicksand (i.e. the same light bulb behind the star cutouts in your upthread metaphor). Currency doesn't function fragmented. There is no relativity of multiple currencies. Currency is a loss of degrees-of-freedom paradigm. The winner is the one who scales a new currency. There is no long-term panacea. Huh? There's no long term solution to the knowledge problem (how do you run out of questions to study?), but that doesn't stop academics from spending their whole life to studying one question--why? We gamble that our life has some purpose--it's irrational, yeah, but people do it every day--anyone who's jumped off a cliff or skydives know it feels good to be alive--and no amount of game theory is going to change that risk assessment. |
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Do they distribute LSD along with Crypto Kongdung.
I'll dumb it down for you: two things you can't stop in this world, gambling and progress. I'll dumb it up metaphorically for you: diversification of steel rolly pollies is an oxymoron. Talk to the quants who modeled diversification of hedge funds before the collapse of LTCM. repair industry is the winning bet here |
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If you ignore gambling, you'll probably never get "why?"
And if you ignore increasing layers of complexity, you'll never get "how?"
And if you never examine how social structures act in the same rationalization structures as a single brain architecture, then you'll never get "neither."
(someday, someone will get this joke, and that's the bet)
Do they distribute LSD along with Crypto Kongdung. I'll dumb it down for you: two things you can't stop in this world, gambling and progress. |
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If you ignore gambling, you'll probably never get "why?"
And if you ignore increasing layers of complexity, you'll never get "how?"
And if you never examine how social structures act in the same rationalization structures as a single brain architecture, then you'll never get "neither."
(someday, someone will get this joke, and that's the bet)
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No, the point is to have off-ramps for gambling earnings as that's the bubble the police state is always chasing--but as long as the politicians are as corrupt as the people they are supposed to be chasing, we're in the right hands. When the Joker burns the money, he is taking away the profit motive and turning it onto a control system, that's why if Morgan Freeman doesn't kill the cell phone rhizome of control, the joker wins. Even Batman can't be trusted with that type of power. The only good result is that two-face plays the odds and gambling returns to create a more natural state.
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