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2481  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you Rich from Gambling? on: October 17, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
It's impossible to rich in gambling unless if you are buying ticket in local lottery that has millions of jackpot prizes.If you are just gamble in poker or any game with low winning chance you can not be rich unless if you are the owner of the gambling casino..

The chance that you will win on that is very small, lots of people bet on lottery... Aside from that you have to choose more numbers which makes the chance of winning smaller and if you win sometimes it's not only you, there are also others that win along with you to get a share... So it is still nearing impossible to get rich on lottery...  Smiley

I disagree that is impossible to be rich on lottery because even your not only the winner or more realistic 3 person wins on lottery you will have a big amount in share and it depends on the jackpot i heared one time 2 person won in a jackpot of about $20,000 a half of $10,000 or likely lets say $8,000 you will also called rich man . On gambling its definitely hard to become rich only few lucky gamblers who wins the jackpot.

But the "chance" to win on those is very small, imagine how many people bet in lottery every day, some even have more than 2 tickets and yet no one win in a day or even in a week, if you start to hope that you will win in lottery then that's bonkers, there's no assurance that you'll get rich there even if you use all your wealth to bet you will never know if you will win, expecting something from it is a false hope..  Smiley

Correct. You will have more chances of getting struck by a lightning than winning in lottery - that how the odds plays against you and anyone that buy lottery tickets. Of course, the reward is very high but there is very little to know assurance at all that you will win. If you will win in lottery, then you are a very lucky one.
Our chance in lottery is very low but if we are lucky we can win millions, I guess this is a good game t be addicted as we cannot experience win most of the time which makes us not addicted in gambling, for sure the amount that we are putting is just a small amount so we can afford that loses.
Haha yeah i totally agree you've more chance of getting struck by lightning 3 straight times than winning the lottery. Although it' a not impossible as it already made quite a number of people rich, the chances arebthat slim that you' re better off just saving the money for other more important expenses

I agree with you mate. Better save youor money for other important matters. There is also one thing, if you really want to gamble, be sure to play only to legitimate casino or government supervised lottery because those have some reasons why it is built - the proceeds are for charity works and not just go straight to some illefal casino owners.
2482  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 17, 2016, 11:32:53 AM
If you want to stop gambling, then find something you more beneficial for you to earn money. Like you can find a decent job or start a business with the money you already have. There is so much ways to quit it for good and for sure you will never regret it.

No doubt your suggestion is really good but it would not be easy for an addictive person to quit gambling at once, actually people want to make money without doing hard job and gambling give them opportunity to make some profit there.
Gambling is not a good opportunity you can just lose all your bitcoins if you choose gambling is your source of earnings.
gambling is for entertainment and i think there is no opportunity in gambling unless if you are the one of the staffs or owner of the sites. that you will earn for managing the site. or make a profit to start your own business gambling casino.

The only opportunity you can get with gambling is to invest in casino's and you are going to be an investor on that site. But that is going to be really hard for those addicted gambler to shift easily and to quit gambling for real or even shift as an investor. But being a busy investor would lead an addicted gambler to use his time for his investments rather than with gambling and that is going to be an helpful way.

Make sense, the more you invest, the more you will not going to play because you don't wanna play against your invested money. However, there is really a good chance that the gambling addict will still play on other sites that doesn't accept investment from other common people like us. Hence, I would suggest, not to even try to invest to online casinos if you really want to get rid of gambling thing in your blood and start doing new things that are outside gambling.
2483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 17, 2016, 11:29:44 AM
Gambling can both fix and wreck your life. It all depends on your strategy.
Excessive gambling will surely wrecks ones life, if we gamble moderately it'll neither fix or wreck our lives. as far as i can tell gambling can't fix lives, it only wrecks. so gamble for fun not for money with lowest amount possible. Wink

Yeah right. However, if you're paying with real money just to have fun, there are other games out there that you can play for free and indeed more enjoying than gambling. I think there is really an urge to earn there when we gamble, not just for fun.

You know, when there is a money involve, it adds the thrill in gambling. However, just only play an amount that you can afford to lose because chances are, you will eventually lose. That is the hard fact - casino is designed not just for giving players entertainment but also it is designed to win, that is why there is this what we called house edge.

Yeah you're correct in that everytime you gamble eventually you will lose so you have to limit the amount you bring to thw table. And i also agree with the other guy here that gambling doesnt fix lives but have a very good chance to wreck one when addiction is involved

That is right. Unless you are just to good gambler and very lucky - but most of us are not, right? Even professional gamblers have some losses. However, they are good at it by creating more sessions that if they lose that session, they still can fight on with their remaining sessions. They also have good bankroll management.
2484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: When gambling makes you cry. on: October 17, 2016, 11:27:13 AM
It happened to me when all my earnings from sportsbet got loss in one day playing dice. I earn almost .04 btc don't know but it's all my earnings from betting in sportsbet and for just one day everything was loss because of the martiagale system got 13 straight losing steak left me nothing.
that's bad feeling so awful from this mistake happen to me before when i loss all of my synx from yobit summing it up it almost .07 btc in its current price using martin fail system got 18 streak losses and it burned everything, after a week before i cope up from that loss.

.07 is just a little amount of money to lose in gambling but yes, even that so, it will still feels hurt - how much more if you chase that losses and still betting on and the losses will be greater than that amount, the disappointment will surely be greater, right? That is how bad gambling is if you are too emotional playing, professional gamblers on the other hand, just play on with less emotions.
emotion sucks our decision without controlling it, will bring more and more loses so better to assess first whether you can control yourself before playing, because if we just continue playing without any target goal and with self control we are just giving the house the capability to burned our money from time to time,.
That cannot be prevented because we are still humans, we are subject to react in our activity that's why we need to control our emotions as it do exist, with failure to control it will lead us to loses and more loses in the gambling, and our definition in gambling might change as it is not fun anymore.

That is true - there are really people that are too emotional and can easily cry on things that are not ok and sad - losing is a sad and disappointment thing you will ever experience especially when you lose big amount of money. It is therefore, better to just play an amount of money that you can afford to lose no matter what - even if your urges wants you to bet more with big amount.
2485  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: October 17, 2016, 11:24:10 AM
I dont think you should start trading with a small amount because you wont make any profit with just small amounts if you want to make money with tradings you need to deal with more.

Not everyone can afford to start trading with a decent amount. Especially for rookies just starting with trading it's important to not go big from the very beginning. You need to keep in mind that you'll make a lot mistakes at the beginning, and thus starting with low amounts is a must.

That is true. when you trade with bitcoin, you can start trading with very small amount of bankroll - which, I also recommend to starters like me. It is so hard to lose big money while you are still learning good trading crypto currencies. There are occasional pump and dump in cryptocurrency trading, and a rookie who buy at the top of the pump with high amount of bankroll, then he will be TKO.
2486  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do Girls also gamble? on: October 17, 2016, 11:20:55 AM
yes there is no doubt about  this that girls also gamble, but it mostly depend on the area as in some countries specially in Muslims countries girls have no such facilities and if they caught playing gambling they will be really punish for them.

This is true. It is really prohibited for Muslim girls to gamble. but in other countries that allows any gender to gamble, then yes, there are really number of girls out there that gambles. This is true especially to mom at home or girls that have no current jobs and just exploring gambling online, and professional girls that plays for entertainment.
2487  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 17, 2016, 11:17:28 AM
if some one give me the surety that i can earn a good amount from bitcoin regularly then i will like to quit my day job for bitcoin otherwise i have a permanent job and gettinga very good profit from it on regular basis;

Are you earning profits from your job? That is not a profit but its a money that your company is paying you for the services that you are offering to it, and you cannot treat it as a profit as you are not investing any real money into it but you are investing your skills and efforts to get that money in terms of salary.

This is really true. Working on a day job is salary based and not profit based. The only thing you said profit is the income you get through investing and business. Both can earn a positive or negative profit. Unlike in day job, you have that stable salary month to month whether your company is earning or losing that month.
2488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 17, 2016, 11:14:36 AM
If you want to stop gambling, then find something you more beneficial for you to earn money. Like you can find a decent job or start a business with the money you already have. There is so much ways to quit it for good and for sure you will never regret it.

No doubt your suggestion is really good but it would not be easy for an addictive person to quit gambling at once, actually people want to make money without doing hard job and gambling give them opportunity to make some profit there.

If that person that wants to earn money without working hard through gambling, then it is ok - but they need to decide that they will exert more effort and most of their time in gambling and learn strategies like that of the professional gamblers. It is no gambling anymore, it is like a regular day job - playing regularly.
2489  Other / Off-topic / Re: Save you Bitcoin for your (grand) child / children? on: October 17, 2016, 11:11:48 AM
It could be a good idea to set aside a small amount for grandchildren. They may benefit from the gain in value more then we will or even our children will. I'm setting some aside anyway whether it's for me later or to pass on.
Yeah I am going to save some for them if it is going to make sense because you never know what might happen to Bitcoin.
Maybe it is just better to trade in the Bitcoin and leave some money behind for them instead of Bitcoin.

That is a conservative way of saving money for your grand children. However, I believe it will be even ok that aside from saving fiat money (subject to inflation) and a portion of your bitcoins, for grankids is wise. Why, because bitcoin may increase its price in the years to come - it will be bigger in value than your saved money that loses value always due inflation.
2490  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 17, 2016, 11:08:31 AM
Of course it is not wrong if you gamble but you know how to control your self and know when to gamble and when it is time to take a break.
If you want to gamble then you should because it is not wrong unless you are hurting other people with it like family.

correct. it is really ok to gamble because you are not hurting other people. But make it sure that you are not hurting yourself and your loved ones in the process when you encounter many defeats or losses. Which, if you don't have emotional control in gambling, then you will lose big, really big. Better stay away from gambling as much as you can and just play for entertainment and not on a regular basis
2491  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: October 17, 2016, 11:05:15 AM
if some one give me the surety that i can earn a good amount from bitcoin regularly then i will like to quit my day job for bitcoin otherwise i have a permanent job and gettinga very good profit from it on regular basis;

There are offers that will inform you to have bigger profit than your regular jobs do. This really happens but think closer at it because that profit might be for a couple of months only or just short time earnings compared to your regular day job that is long term in nature. Hence, I would still prefer to do day job and just make some sideline income with bitcoins.
2492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: October 17, 2016, 11:03:11 AM
No bitcoin serves different purpose and bank serves different. We need both the service to live and make our life complete. So bitcoin can't remove bank. But well bank could adopt bitcoin system for automated transaction and faster.

That is correct. They are available for our consumption. We can use either bitcoin or banks in certain circumstances that is favorable to us. Example, if we want to gamble, we can use bitcoin because it is very easy to get in - it takes few minutes to create account on that online casino compared to using fiat money where there are many identification and other requirements.
2493  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 17, 2016, 11:00:54 AM
I would say Bitcoin for now. Simply because it haven't reach it's mature stage yet unlike gold. You might be able to earn a lot more in Bitcoin until it gets more mature.

But the risk is greater with Bitcoin. It can get worthless if some new bug or a better altcoin is discovered. There is no such risk associated with gold. It will remain as a valuable asset.
yeah that's right unless gold can be created in future by combining few precious metals and make gold worthless,but it's near to impossible to be happening as for now,most fake gold can be detected when you go to the laboratory,and that's make it's impossible for today

correct. Gold is an established fortune for years to come. New opportunities like bitcoins, are modern ways to invest and use. It is like the era of internet, telephone, television, and the like. We must accept that gold is the only safe and best way for investment because in this changing world, there will really will come new ways to better investment apart from gold.
2494  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to quit Gambling for good? on: October 17, 2016, 10:56:51 AM
How does one Put down Gambling for good?
I have never been addicted to gambling but I think that you should stay away from it by doing other things in your life maybe go on a vacation if you have the money.
Get your mind away from some things, that is going to help you a bit for sure.

Playing safe is the only way to get profit of gambling nothing. Script and bot are easily to trace by the house. It will not work in the long run. You will lost a lot of your coins if you trust that method. Try your own method.
Dude what you're saying won't help you quit. Although it's going to be a good start to regulate gambling but still, gambling smart doesn't equal to quitting. It may even get you more addicted

That is right - especially if you see some winnings and you decide to just play on. The more you play,the more you will be addicted to gambling. I would rather quit at once if I have no plan to become a professional gambler. However, if I want to become a professional gambler, then the only way for me to reach that is to gamble regularly.
2495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: October 17, 2016, 10:54:09 AM
Gambling can both fix and wreck your life. It all depends on your strategy.
Excessive gambling will surely wrecks ones life, if we gamble moderately it'll neither fix or wreck our lives. as far as i can tell gambling can't fix lives, it only wrecks. so gamble for fun not for money with lowest amount possible. Wink

Yeah right. However, if you're paying with real money just to have fun, there are other games out there that you can play for free and indeed more enjoying than gambling. I think there is really an urge to earn there when we gamble, not just for fun.

You know, when there is a money involve, it adds the thrill in gambling. However, just only play an amount that you can afford to lose because chances are, you will eventually lose. That is the hard fact - casino is designed not just for giving players entertainment but also it is designed to win, that is why there is this what we called house edge.
2496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: October 17, 2016, 10:51:28 AM
The only safe gambling is to not gambling in my opinion.
But everything is life is a gamble, and nothing is 100% safe.
Huh? how can you say that it is a safe gambling if you are not playing? lol. That wont called a gambling. Gambling imo means you are playing, you are taking a risk.

Ha ha. What a freak statement. But I guess you experience gambling or playing games but hate in the means of you are always lost for everybet you take just dont be hasty in betting playing safe is just setting goal profit.
Haha yeah it's not really gambling if you're nit betting and i really don't think there's a "safe" way to gamble because just as you've said, gambling is all about taking risks. You can only gamble responsibly to avoid unnecessary losses

You will eventually lose in gambling because of the house edge advantage. Of course you can win big in gambling if you are very lucky enough and cashout automatically - if you still play on, you will eventually lose because of the house edge. We should always remember that at the end of the day, casino will win because they have the house edge.
2497  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 17, 2016, 10:48:55 AM
I would say Bitcoin for now. Simply because it haven't reach it's mature stage yet unlike gold. You might be able to earn a lot more in Bitcoin until it gets more mature.

But the risk is greater with Bitcoin. It can get worthless if some new bug or a better altcoin is discovered. There is no such risk associated with gold. It will remain as a valuable asset.

That is correct. It is just like in the internet, if there will be what it called before a millennium bug where it shuts down internet, then all of our efforts will be for nothing. What I am trying to say here is that bitcoin is like the emerging of internet - internet is very valuable now just like gold, and so with bitcoin.
2498  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: October 17, 2016, 10:45:38 AM
no bitcoin can't make banks disappear because we need many offline works and for that we need established institutions to control the flow of money within the country and among international countries.

You are correct. Bitcoin is just an alternative. In my case, I have paypal for my salary and withdraw that paypal money to my bank and use it to pay bills and buy basic needs using fiat money. I also have bitcoin wallets that I use for my online transactions - gambling, crypto trading, and investing. Hence, we can use both bitcoin and banks altogether without even necessary to eradicate the other.
2499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to stay away from gambling? suggestions ? on: October 17, 2016, 10:42:26 AM
My advice is to get other hobbies,you also need to stop doing gambling daily. You must do it slowly, a smooth transition from addiction to non addiction, if you stop gambling out of a sudden you will enter in relapse mode and you do gamble over and over again.

In short, just take it slow. I really agree that you need to have some alternative things to do like new hobbies - it is like a glass of water, in order for new water to enter it, it needs to have emptied. Therefore, in gambling addiction, you will not get over it when you are not looking for diversions or other activities.
2500  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: October 17, 2016, 10:37:45 AM
No I don't think that bitcoin will make banks to disappear because banks provide security according to currency however bitcoin can't do this as it has no static price like currencies have to spend locally.

Bitcoin is not designed to eradicate banks, it was designed to give people alternative ways to transact money online - this way, with bitcoin crypto money and not the fiat one. Of course, in order for it to gain attention by people, it created added features that is really revolutionary in nature, it introduces privacy in financial transactions without giving identifications.
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