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2481  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How can all (or most) cryptocurrencies rise and fall at the same time? on: August 07, 2022, 10:59:02 PM
The price and, ultimately, the charts on any given exchange are determined by the price of the most recent transaction. How can the prices of 100s of cryptos all move in the same direction at the same time?
Afaik, simply it may be known that the up and down price of cryptocurrency is happened because following the Bitcoin market. So far, Bitcoin still become the one that really influences the market condition. We can see that every time there is FUD for Bitcoin, or there is bearish era for Bitcoin, the altcoins will automatically follow the graphic of Bitcoin, mostly will follow the fall or rise up of the Bitcoin price.

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not all of them. some altcoins sometimes still keep their prices stable when market conditions are making movements.
indeed the overall situation of bitcoin will affect the altcoin market. and it all depends on how we make an investment planning policy. some people prefer bitcoin and others like altcoins. there are even some people who are fans of meme coin.
Although there may be certain token or coin that is probably opposite or stable, I don't think that will last longer, commonly only hype, and then will follow Bitcoin, too. We have seen how many other cryptos are trying to do the opposite, rising up many percentages when the BTC price is falling down, but after several days, they are dumped so much and then dropped like what happened to other cryptos.
2482  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What will be running in your mind if Bitcoin reaches $1000 again on: August 07, 2022, 10:45:29 PM
At first, of course, exactly surprised and dropped too much.
Of course, it needs quite some time to be calmer. And believe that Bitcoin is able to survive from that deep crash, struggle together, and rise up again. This must not be easy for all people, there must be so much FUD destroying everybody's mind and health. So many people may be stressful because of this very crash condition.
But once more, as long as we can control ourselves, that may be the best time to buy more and more Bitcoin, this si exactly for the long term holder become a very good time to buy more Bitcoin. Because, there may not be any other time again to buy many Bitcoin very cheaply
2483  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: August 07, 2022, 10:12:49 PM
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If we see from the statictis of the game, Crystal Palace actually gave a pretty strong resistance. It was proven that they were also able to shoot and also shot on target with the same number as Arenal. Likewise ball possession, they also quite handle it. However, Arsenal played quite effectively, with 2 shots on target they could hit both of them as goals. But yeah, I also though that Arsenal at least could score 3
correctly. even I was a little surprised by the game from Crystal Palace. I think they played well enough. but its accuracy and effectiveness are lacking. but of course we can already guess that arsenal can beat him. because Arsenal are very good at taking every opportunity effectively. but still a long way to go. so I'm still not sure if arsenal will be in the top 4 this season. but the chances are very big when you look at the results of the matches in pre-season and from the games he has just won.
Yes, agree, their effectiveness and accuracy for the shots were lacking enough. I think that Crystal Palace attacking lines are not powerful enough or they are still not solid yet. Although they could play very well and can shoot as much as possible, this will mean nothing if they couldn't score even once. Moreover, Arsenal also has quite strong defenders and their goalkeeper.

Btw, it is not a surprise that MU still cannot do their best this season. Moreover, this club lost to Brighton  Grin
There were so many shots by Man United but no good accuracy and effectiveness. Again, about that. Anyway, Now we are too tired and didn't wonder why Maguire was still there.
2484  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 07, 2022, 09:58:19 PM
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Barcelona are aware of their current financial condition and three weeks ago they began to have talks related to the financial problems experienced by Barcelona.
There are several ways that Barcelona have done to overcome this financial problem, one of which is the sale of some of Barca Studio's sham, but it is still lacking. There are 2 more ways left, the first way is to sell the player and the second way is to reduce the player's salary.

For information, Barcelona has now completed the transfer of five new players such as Raphinha, Jules Kunde, Robert Lewandowski, Franck Kessie, and Andreas Christensen. and Barcelona still has not stopped to add ammunition.
That is why, they are aware enough actually with their condition, but they still can't stop to add ammunition  Grin
Yes, they are planning to sell some of their players but yes this is not enough compared with the money that they need urgently, moreover by cutting the salary of the players, well, that's like not a good way. But, that may happen only for the early period in order to make them breathe easier the earlier of the season.
I also read news about the way Barcelona going to make bank loans with anticipated future broadcast revenues from playing in the Champions League as the security for the loan., but the response from UEFA is NO.

2485  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you introduce Bitcoin to people without digital literacy? on: August 05, 2022, 11:59:26 PM
It will be little bit difficult. But, doesn't mean that it is impossible.
As long as they have willing to learn about Bitcoin, we can start teaching Bitcoin with something very easy. First, maybe we need to explain online technology and Bitcoin from the common knowledge. For firstly, I suggest that you don't need to explain the technical about Bitcoin because they will be nonsense. They will probably feel so hard to accept the information. That is why you need to start from the easy information about what is Bitcoin, by telling them with very simple conversation or example.
2486  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Don't sit on your hands on: August 05, 2022, 11:57:45 PM
Everybody may have personal expectation about the lowest price in order to get the cheapest price. However, to avoid some regret, I do agree that it needs to use the DCA technique. So, we have at least bought Bitcoin several times at some certain dropped price or rate. That is why we can see that we still have cahnce again to see the price drop or rise up
2487  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: August 05, 2022, 11:21:05 PM
Almost whenever I read football news I feel strange because it is reported that Barcelona has a lot of debt and is in arrears on their players' salaries. but they brought in several players, it's unfair if it has an important role related to finance from the President of LaLiga for example. it should be investigated IMO.
I'm also surprised how Barcelona strategy to sign many new players while they still have debts and they forced to cut their existing players' salaries. It is getting more interesting because they are still negotiating to sign more players until now. They seem like having unlimited money, while they are still in financial crisis. I don't know what's happening here.  Undecided  It seems like they don't think about how big the salaries to be paid to the whole players once they can get normal salaries then. Barcelona is building their squad on a very risky basis.

2488  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: August 05, 2022, 11:12:39 PM
Arsenal did not surprise us. It was as we predicted and they won the first game they played in the league. Actually, they didn't play as well as I thought in the game, but this was just the first game and it will take some time for the team to be able to play very well.
As a result, they managed to gain 3 points from the match and made a good start to the season Smiley
Yes, no surprises today, Arsenal won the first match as expected. But actually, I really expected they could win with bigger goals since they performed impressively during the pre-season matches. Well, Arsenal players may be nervous since it is the first match of this season. However, it is a perfect result, the main thing is they can get 3 points, so they are leading the standings now. Let's see how consistent they are to keep collecting 3 points.

2489  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: August 05, 2022, 11:04:00 PM
Untuk saat ini jangan muluk-muluk dulu ini nyentuh $30.000 (masih spekulasi) sudah bagus, dengan analisa descending patern, trend masih bearish di TF 1W, kalo ini jebol atau breakout bisa kita ke $60.000 lagi.
Bisa up lagi sampai ke $30k itu sudah bagus sekali, mengingat sebelumnya sempat drop sampe ke titik $17k - $18k di tanggal 18 Juni 2022. Jika ada yang buy pada waktu itu, bisa dibayangkan sudah berapa profitnya jika harga BTC kembali ke angka $30k. Mungkin saja bisa kembali lagi ke $30k di sisa tahun ini Q3-Q4 2022, walaupun tidak tau kapan tepatnya. Tapi untuk breakout kembali ke $60k, saya kira belum saatnya untuk dipikirkan.

Syukur-syukur bisa ke $30K lagi karena FUD pasarnya masih terlalu kuat. Investor sangat berhati-hati melakukan investasi dalam jumlah yang tinggi mengingat dan menimbang ada resiko jatuhnya pasar pasca distribusi bitcoin Mt. Gox. Saya mungkin akan berpikir bahwa sideway ini akan berlangsung selama Agustus ini dan bitcoin tidak akan menembus $25K dimana harga kisarannya bisa jadi diantara $20K hingga $25K.
Investor memang sangat berhati-hati karena tidak mau nyangkut dananya. Bisa dilihat dari demand yang relatif stabil dan harga BTC yang sideways mulai dari awal Juli (kisaran harga rata-rata $20k - $23k). Saya juga belum begitu yakin jika harga BTC akan mulai mendekati $30k, masih ada potensi harga turun lagi setelah sideways ini.


https://www.investing.com/crypto/bitcoin/historical-data

2490  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: August 04, 2022, 11:00:09 PM
I can't wait for the game coming up tomorrow,where Arsenal and Crystal palace will lock horns against each other in their first premier league game of the new season.
Arsenal have a record of not winning their first game when the season starts new,but I believe this one will be a different one because Arsenal are in the form of their life,and they are ready to do everything to win this coming match.
Crystal palace are a very strong side that will surely give Arsenal headache,but I see the gunners coming out to be victorious in this encounter.The gunners have strengthen their side adding some quality players that will help them achieve their aim this season,so all together,I see Arsenal have a good season.
It will be a good time for this starting match.
For this match, Arsenal should have higher chance to win from Crystal Palace and should not go hard. but we need to see how readiness of each team, because sometimes, there may be different result if a club is not really solid with their some new players inside.
Having point from this first match is something that is crucial because this can be one of the ways to keep up the spirit for the club in this season.
2491  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Futures Trading is not for everyone on: August 04, 2022, 10:54:27 PM
I do agree that futures is not for everyone, but it is certainly not impossible to handle neither. I do agree that there are a ton of people who turned their small amount of money into a huge amount of money because they had the courage to make a profit from the leverages. If you have a small amount, it is better to do leverage because it means you will act as if you have a lot, but if you lose even just a bit, you will lose it all.

So, the risk you are taking is huge, but the profit you would take is huge as well and you better have a decision about those two before you get in. If I make a ton of profit with a huge bull run then I may consider it.
Indeed, future trading is something complex and risky. we can say high risk but also high turn probability. This is suitable enough for high risk taker. but not only based on high risk taker, future trading needs good knowledge, analysis, and acceptance about the market situation. no easy ways of course. if we are new to this, we are better to do it. after we have learned and understand and also ready, we can start doing this by only very small amount to trade future.
2492  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Borrow fiat with your Bitcoin and never sell on: August 04, 2022, 10:40:53 PM
I don't get you. Based on what I understood you're planning to borrow fiat once you've got enough bitcoin. Does this mean you're planning to borrow money placing bitcoin as the collateral. For borrowed money you need to pay regular interest.

Maybe this can turn to be effective, if the borrowed money is invested on something that brings you regular income.

Yes, if I need something, I would borrow the money instead of selling the Bitcoin to purchase it. Michael Saylor talks about this. If I have to pay 5% interest, but Bitcoin’s price raises over 5% a year, then I would be making money. If I sell the Bitcoin for fiat, then inflation will eat up that money. This is apparently what everyone from Elon Musk to Donald Trump does. They don’t actually have any money. They just have property, and borrow against the property because the property is more valuable than the cash.
owh I see your point. so you prefer to borrow money than sell your Bitcoin if there is something urgent to get money?
well, this is your own plan and I cannot blame you. everybody has individual thinking.
but for me, I will try my best to stay away from loans. I prefer to sell my asset if something happen with me and need much money than borrowing money for loans moreover in bank. because I need to pay for the debts and interest. additionally, I maybe feel worried if having loans, I cannot life calmly. that is why I prefer not to have loans. better to sell my assets and then I can collect money again to add my investment.
2493  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Discussion] Should Gambling be Banned? on: August 01, 2022, 09:57:03 PM
I know die-hard gamblers that travel internationally just because it is illegal to gamble in their home country. Banning gambling isn’t a solution. Those people will find a way. Some of them are not even rich. They just live near the border of a gambler-friendly country and visit them when they gather enough money. Of course they always return empty handed because that’s how gambling works.
more restrictions may make someone more curious and always want to do it.
like in my country, government bans or illegalizes gambling, but in fact, many people are still doing that.
at least, the government tries to decrease the gambling addictions because of some negative sides of a gambling itself so far in the country, dealing with crimes,
but, as long as we can control ourself, it seems to be dilemma moreover if we are usual gambling
2494  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: How diversified are you with your investment, crypto aside? on: August 01, 2022, 09:52:57 PM
diversification in investment is something that is beneficial. this is to decrease the risks. however too many diversifications may also disturb your focus.
fo me, investing in crypto is a risky but profitable investment, moreover in Bitcoin. some altcoins are also owned like BNB, ETH, LTC, and some others. but not sure about the APY.
outside cry[to, investment in gold is one of the ways that I can reach, than in property because of the limited capital
2495  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Fengshui on: August 01, 2022, 09:47:08 PM
lmao honestly I thought that feng shui is about putting furniture in the right parts of the room and all that Cheesy I've never taken this seriously, as well as horoscopes, for example. Still, if it helps someone to win, then ok
Yes that is what we know and we never thought that the objects that we saw outside are still part of this tradition. All the time we see them as a decoration but they do actually have some benefits like luck other than making the place look beautiful.
exactly, let their belief be, as long as they don't force us to use and believe it. it doesn't matter. we also don't need to take a matter of what they believe,
a casino may build certain things with a feng shui environmental setting, they believe this will lead to more luck and profits,
and once more, this is about individual belief. there is nothing to blame
2496  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How Gambling companies can get more users to deposit. on: July 31, 2022, 09:57:21 PM
Today's competitive gambling platforms are constantly offering. Which is greatly encourages a gambler. A lot of gamblers are registering in places where there are more facilities. Casino platforms are often offering bonuses that are more challenging and require different conditions to qualify for the bonus. All the gamblers are taking these things positively and they are gambling extensively.
The gambling world is very competitive and gamblers can move from one gambling platforms to another depending what they want. Many of the successful gambling platforms do have different strategies they use to attract more gamblers to their various platforms. Most they can use bonuses to attract gamblers that are interested in first time bonus to play their favorite games. Some utilizes other factors to get high number of gamblers on their platforms.
Yes, this is one of the things that makes casino platforms always evaluate and develop their platforms according to the times, providing certain bonuses or promos to attract users or retain users. And because the competitive condition can also make them maintain and improve their image to always be better and make users feel at home. Maintaining a reputation and also providing problem-solving quickly and accurately will also have a good influence on them
2497  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Time to Buy or Sell or Hodl? on: July 31, 2022, 09:53:49 PM
Hello,
According to the marketplace, now is the time to Buy or Sell or Hodl?
Any idea welcomed.


Thank you.
First, What are you?
- If you are a short-term trading, you need to consider how much profits that you have got if selling the assets right now, is it profitable based on target?
- Do you face any losses right now? If itis a loss, it is better to save and hold them for longer time, at east to wait for the price increase as target
- If you are a long term holder, don't worry, you can hold the coins for long term, because it is still in the ebarish period, so there may probably have higher chance in the next bullish era.
2498  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Can Day Trading be profitable in Crypto ? on: July 31, 2022, 09:50:36 PM
In my opinion, both day trading and long-term investment can be profitable if:
- We understand the science
- We want to learn it
- We want to be consistent
- We have good tips for controlling our emotions because day trading will be very emotional, especially with market conditions that often change drastically very easily. That is why day trading may require more risks, moreover if we are new enough in day trading.
2499  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: July 31, 2022, 09:47:39 PM
The next question is, will some players survive the pay cut? Or are these many players' purchases really worth the payoff? Because after all, Barcelona is still not out of the financial crisis. Although they may use some strategies to face financial problems.
Cutting players' wages is not the solution to the financial problem. When they signed the contract with Barcelona the players had a clearly stated amount of money they should be paid, in this case the team is in breach of the terms. How the players tolerate this I cannot understand because it is nonsense. You could tell the players to play for free...
Of course, this will not last long, especially the salary cuts for old players at Barcelona. This is also not fair, right? And if they don't agree with the idea, it probably won't last long, especially if they've contributed well. There are several Barcelona players who are still in a dilemma. However, it turns out that Barcelona still wants to add more players.
2500  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: July 29, 2022, 11:59:22 PM
If Xavi can really manage the players and make them in solid condition, Barcelona will be exactly turning back into a very strong club like in their high tension at that time. Barcelona really has several new players that are very strong, they are also ambitious for some reasons. They have strong forward-liners Aubameyang and Lewandowski, supported by Raphinha, Dembele, Ansu Fati, Ferran Torres, Franck Kessie, and back by Jules Kounde and other defenders, and some other great midfielders.
They really have completed the squad and its substitutions.
Real Madrid really will have a tough opponent this season. I am a fan of Real Madrid, but I admit that Barcelona this season will be very different from the previous, one and will not be easy to defeat. Let's enjoy the El Classico very much again.  Smiley
The next question is, will some players survive the pay cut? Or are these many players' purchases really worth the payoff? Because after all, Barcelona is still not out of the financial crisis. Although they may use some strategies to face financial problems.
If there is no matter, exactly Barcelona will be really hard to face, additionally when all of the new squads can really join and blend in the squad properly, without any self ambition that will make them ego is to be the best player i the club, and if they are solid enough, they will be a very great team again. Love this.
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