It's sad that Credits get delisted from exchange C-CEX.com Is there any plan for maybe to see CRE at some other exchange ? Why is that? Missing trading volume or did something happen that i missed? I think the distribution of credits are interesting. Marketingable. |
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Haha, I can guarantee Sebastian would not throw his account away for a measly .1 - .2BTC. While no one can easily prove if an account were sold or not I am pretty sure his was not. I can see why someone would be a little reluctant to hand over that sort of login info though. Mint: you need to prove this one way or another and giving him access does just that.
Thanks Blazed... and yes... it must be a strange mindset where something like that can make sense. In the meanwhile i wonder if the OP is not only a sockpuppet account of the issuer of the scamcoin. Another user took over that scamcoin, claimed he did not receive the coins the scammer received by fraudulently replacing the escrow address with his address, and brought the coin on yobit. He claimed he hired a developer and spread out the coins to every investor. I wonder from which bitcoins he paid the developer when he did not get the bitcoins from the scammer. And Mintjelly was in the thread promoting the coin, claiming he received his bitrush. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199392.msg12590649#msg12590649https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199392.msg12595646#msg12595646By the way... the price crashed 80% on yobit.  |
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Looks like the price crashed 80% on yobit. Guess that was it. Clever to have a giveaway to attract a lot of positive voices in the thread. They even silenced critis for a short time. And i wonder who got coins for which investments. And the issuer did not have a value backing that if he did not get the scammers coins. Makes no sense to me yet.
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thanks all, the twitter giveaway is over.
okay thanks also to giveaway yobit code, nice profit  Cheers not a problem at all, there will be another giveaway at a later stage today  Update | October 5th 2015ive just spent the last ~8 hours interviewing coders/programmers from freelancer.com over skype, and have just hired an expert with 11+ years experience in the field to assist me with implementation of a new anonymous tech/system. So thats news. Give us a month and we will see what damage we can do to Monero/Dash Again... how can you hire when you did not get the scammers funds? You can't sell premined coins for that without crashing bitrush. Do you have an explaination? |
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Got my bitrush thanks @DEV hope this new start brings many riches OP, can you explain? So did you give him bitrush for the coins he sent to the scammers address or did you give him bitrush for the funds he sent to the escrow address? Since like i wrote, he asked for a refund for the coins he sent to the escrow address. So does that mean you received a list from the scammer for the coins he scammed and knowledge about those who invested the bitcoins? Then you spread an amount of premined coins to those? Without, you claiming, having the bitcoins for them? And does yobit has no registering fee? If you paid one from what? And without invested bitcoins you can't do anything for the coin. No development. I wonder how someone could expect that coin having any value. |
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Stop this fake TAKEOVER now
and refund all your investor BTC
you live in a fairy tale this poor guy is trying rite a wrong i bought into the ico and i want my bitrush so this guy is doing a good thing What the... now you really sound like you are the previous ICO's issuer. You asked me for a refund for all of your sent bitcoins and even though you already received 0.2 bitcoin you make a huge fuss about a 2 week waiting time for the other payment you claim is yours, without being able to provide a proof. And now i read you want your bitrush even though you tell everyone that you have no food when i don't send you the 0.1 bitcoin instantly. Man you sound so very wrong. |
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when u want your own coin , contact me .
for a small fee you can have your own Bitrush ^^
Um... i know you meant this funny but if someone reads this serious then you sound like you offer to create a scamcoin.  So far i think you TillKoeln and crunck are service providers for creating coins. Though it's not really possible for you to prevent misuse of the coins. At least i can't think of a way. |
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so you want to do good and yet again you made a selfmoderated thread for ICO, good job, i hope people learned
can you post TXID of BTC transfered from old dev to you?
Perhaps your misunderstanding, there was no btc sent to me. Thats all with the previous dev who refuses to refund. im just launching the coin as it was meant to be. just so the ico investors get something out of it, rather than a dead coin. xhoneyael im not about to delete your posts, as your entitled to your own opinion. but just tame it down please. Hm... though then i have to tell you that practically all coins fromt he previous investors are already refunded or are in the process of being to. If the scammer did not send you the coins, which ultimately makes it clear without any doubt that he was a scammer from the start, then you will have no coins to make an ICO. Except you manage to attract new investors in this renowed ICO. Though i think it will be really hard with the past this coin has. |
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There is really no legitimate reason why MintJellyToes would not be able to allow Sebastian access to his polinex account, at least not in my eyes.
are you kidding! give a random person on the internet access to your funds on an exchange? do you give randoms on the street access to your online banking too? i think its pretty clear no one has claimed those funds as of yet, and MintJelly showed ample proof that he owns those funds. Sebastian is just turning the blind eye hoping MintJelly gives up and he gets to score the funds. SebastianJu is not a random person, he is someone that MintJellyToes had previously decided to trust with some of his money. An exchange account is very different from online banking details. It is trivial to withdraw all funds from an exchange account and an exchange account is going to not be associated with your RL identity, and has little/zero value. So a worse case scenario is that MintJellyToes withdraws any coins that he has deposited on his exchange account then gives Sebastian access to his polinex account so he can confirm the transaction was actually from MintJellyToes. Correct. I would even be fine with some other trusted person on the forum checking his account out. No problem with that. As long as Mint doesn't fear that that person can see hundreds of coins in there or see connections to scams. AFAIK, no one else has claims the funds, but that will not stop someone from attempting to claim the funds in the future. MintJellyToes has not shown proof that he sent the funds in question.
Based on the limited information available, I would say that Sebastian is currently in the right. If you (or MintJellyToes) can provide some additional context to why a refund is being requested and the exact terms of the escrow then this may change (although I somewhat doubt it).
edit: if the coins came from an exchange, then I do not even understand how MintJellyToes expected to get the ICO coins if the ICO had not been botched.
Exactly. I think it is only one of these standard sentences that extortioners use. I don't have food for my kids, need medicine, grandpa is sick and so on. I'm sure it works on other escrows that don't have a big reputation but i certainly DON'T like the way this forum turned into a playfield for extortions and threats. I'm escrow to stop scams and i do that when i can. And surely i will not bend what is right or wrong only because someone thinks he must threaten for $20. |
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There is really no legitimate reason why MintJellyToes would not be able to allow Sebastian access to his polinex account, at least not in my eyes.
are you kidding! give a random person on the internet access to your funds on an exchange? do you give randoms on the street access to your online banking too? i think its pretty clear no one has claimed those funds as of yet, and MintJelly showed ample proof that he owns those funds. Sebastian is just turning the blind eye hoping MintJelly gives up and he gets to score the funds. It's not like iam a random person. I'm on here since years and have a very good reputation. For a reason. I held thousands of bitcoins in escrow and paid them out. Ample proof. You more and more sound like Mint. And again the absolutely stupid claim that i would need to scam for $20. Well, you are a troll, normal users would be red ashamed by claiming such stupidity. |
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no i just want my money back i live in a very pore country that is alot of money to me
Sure, you already got 0.2 Bitcoin. And you would have got nothing if the scam would have not been exposed. You even would have got nothing when the ico would still run since i doubt you would have dumped your coins instantly on the first exchange. So don't play the poor person that has no food to eat now. It would be plain stupid if you would invest coins you need to feed you (and your family?) into random (scam) coins. You first contacted me on october the 2nd for your both refunds. That is only 6 days ago now. And you make a fuss, it's not even funny. But don't await that i let me threaten or extort only because you make me stress. I won't take a high risk only because you think you need to force everything now instantly. I tell you what. If no problems happen i will assume these are really your coins on october 15th. I think 2 weeks are a timeframe in which the real owner should be able to claim his coins. At least i would assume that someone investing into an ICO is normally not going away for long. Since it's risky. |
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be careful guys i think this is a brought acc.
or he may be trying to make a quick exit. id avoid escrow until further notice.
I can't say with 100% certainty one way or another if SebastianJu is a purchased account, but I don't think it is. Based on the screenshot that MintJellyToes posted, it looks like the amount in dispute is .1 BTC, more specifically .1 BTC that were sent to 1MhMNXUkNFaBUHMnqjnqDczcihdemtBfZg via 68126c1368713ea6db072c18bdea37116694720c6e615a294e080b7a45bbece6 and that MintJellyToes is unable to prove that the BTC from the above transaction was his. If the above amount is correct then I can say with a near 100% certainty that Sebastian is not in the process of pulling a runner considering that there are reports of him releasing both a 5 BTC and a 21 BTC escrow in the last ~2 weeks, and I would personally doubt that either party that he released the BTC to are his alts. Regarding that screenshot, anyone can fake a screenshot that was apparently presented by MintJellyToes. If he really sent the .1 BTC to the escrow address from his polinex account then he should give Sebastian temporary access to his account so he can personally verify that it was MintJellyToes that sent the transaction. Otherwise what will potentially happen is that he will release the .1 BTC to MintJellyToes then the next day "someone else" will come along who is willing to prove they sent the .1 BTC to that address with access to their polinex account. There is really no legitimate reason why MintJellyToes would not be able to allow Sebastian access to his polinex account, at least not in my eyes. I also hope that this situation serves as a lesson to SebastianJu to not give more then one party the same address to send to for a trade. This way he will know with near 100% certainty that any BTC that makes it into particular address belongs to a specific person. If he wants to, then after a certain time he can tell both parties to a trade that any BTC sent to the address after a certain time will be his property (for example if the buyer never funds escrow and he wants to give that address to someone else for a trade). This practice will allow SebastianJu to avoid these kinds of disputes, which I do not doubt are a major headache for him, and will also allow his customers to enjoy a greater amount of privacy. https://blockchain.info/address/1MhMNXUkNFaBUHMnqjnqDczcihdemtBfZgIts all just an attack from most likely darkslash/gliterrush/babbur/theterminator/chinook..... and many more alts from same person because sebastian acknowledged the BitRuch community(ICO coin he was escrow) that its a possible scam coin based on many proofs. I didn't think of that possibility yet but yes, the issuer was very angry after being exposed. It might very well be that he funded his own ico in order to make it win movement. One transaction from his wallet and one transaction from polo to have a bit diversity. Well, it's probably not possible to proof. It's not even possible to proof the address is from poloniex since walletexplorer can't adjust it to their address pool. |
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be careful guys i think this is a brought acc.
or he may be trying to make a quick exit. id avoid escrow until further notice.
I can't say with 100% certainty one way or another if SebastianJu is a purchased account, but I don't think it is. Based on the screenshot that MintJellyToes posted, it looks like the amount in dispute is .1 BTC, more specifically .1 BTC that were sent to 1MhMNXUkNFaBUHMnqjnqDczcihdemtBfZg via 68126c1368713ea6db072c18bdea37116694720c6e615a294e080b7a45bbece6 and that MintJellyToes is unable to prove that the BTC from the above transaction was his. If the above amount is correct then I can say with a near 100% certainty that Sebastian is not in the process of pulling a runner considering that there are reports of him releasing both a 5 BTC and a 21 BTC escrow in the last ~2 weeks, and I would personally doubt that either party that he released the BTC to are his alts. Regarding that screenshot, anyone can fake a screenshot that was apparently presented by MintJellyToes. If he really sent the .1 BTC to the escrow address from his polinex account then he should give Sebastian temporary access to his account so he can personally verify that it was MintJellyToes that sent the transaction. Otherwise what will potentially happen is that he will release the .1 BTC to MintJellyToes then the next day "someone else" will come along who is willing to prove they sent the .1 BTC to that address with access to their polinex account. There is really no legitimate reason why MintJellyToes would not be able to allow Sebastian access to his polinex account, at least not in my eyes. I also hope that this situation serves as a lesson to SebastianJu to not give more then one party the same address to send to for a trade. This way he will know with near 100% certainty that any BTC that makes it into particular address belongs to a specific person. If he wants to, then after a certain time he can tell both parties to a trade that any BTC sent to the address after a certain time will be his property (for example if the buyer never funds escrow and he wants to give that address to someone else for a trade). This practice will allow SebastianJu to avoid these kinds of disputes, which I do not doubt are a major headache for him, and will also allow his customers to enjoy a greater amount of privacy. https://blockchain.info/address/1MhMNXUkNFaBUHMnqjnqDczcihdemtBfZgThanks for backing me Quickseller. And yes, Mint already got a refund here 671241c73742d9303b664bb7226d4dfe36402a0a1bb75d550e8fdc9a3f521453. Yes... the work some scammers put in in their scams, even for $10 only, is really astonishing. I mean there is a chance that Mint has the private key of that address and comes with another forum user and proof that it is his. Then demand his coins a second time. If he is really legit then he either doesn't want to understand or he is not able to. Though i think it's only the bad habit that crawled into the forum slowly in the last time. Threatening and all in order to push things forward. The address was not for a trade. For trades i give unique addresses. It was for an ICO that was exposed as a scam. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1198504.new#new |
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read the story about not returning BTC .
be careful guys i think this is a brought acc.
or he may be trying to make a quick exit. id avoid escrow until further notice.
Ah, a troll. Is that your main account mintjelly? Though i forgive you. A troll might really get the idea that it might be worth to throw away a reputation like mine for $20. For normal forum users it would simply be way too stupid to even think about claiming that this could be possible. |
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REPLYING TO YOUR INBOX HERE @SebastianJu
so where is the mystery person? whos money it is? i dont know how anyone can screen shot inside my polo account this is turning into a joke i gave you bad feed back because you asked for acses to my polo acount and your holding my funds simple you cant tell me you are not doing them things i dont see it as a threat just the truth to me seems like you want this money thats why im not getting it back
so the question lies WHERE IS MY MONEY
Screenshot in your polo? What you sent me was a picture showing nothing more than a picture showing the transaction id and the data around it: http://prntscr.com/8nnyttSo how can you consider that a proof? I can create an exactly image for you with a different transaction id and a different receiving address if you wish. Nothing more than gimp needed. How can you call this a proof? And if you would look in the ICO Address you would see the coins are still in there. You claim i need $20 so badly that i would scam you for that. Sorry but that is the stupidiest thing i have read in a long time. I had several hundred times more coins in escrow in the last time and i get that amount of money only from writing here, so practically doing nothing, from my signature campaign in 3 days. Your accusation is really really stupid. |
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Oh well, i don't look in here for some time and hell breaks lose. You want to know if it is a bought account? Here proof that iam the real one: -----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Proof that this is the real SebastianJu. 20151008
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1K2UFGCKyNQNx4h2m5ZRCaw9BWHTBcCZAA
Gw7m+9yUUOA/KhJ4qQsECilNJ/rnwY3O4gaophuzGCsnDYsyImR7T8ZKE/Tkp2k3F5ReTDiW7IXIBle5+yopnFQ=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Message signed with an old address of mine, that i posted may 2013 on bitcointalk. See my Servicethread: [ANN] SebastianJu - Free Legendary Escrow Service - Escrowed over 8150 BTC. I can sign with every address i posted... i think. |
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If there is a group of person which should have the right to end their life with doctor-assistance, it is the faggots  . Less of this shot can just benefit ! Oh well... a nice dose of homophobia was what was needed in here ... somehow i know you will beat around when someone asks you if you are homosexual. All this fear... Maybe in some years you become sexually stable so that you don't feel the need to show that you are not homosexual, by attacking homosexuals that way. You're taking the problem by the wrong side... I do not hate them because I am too. I just know how things have to be. In sexuality, it's male and female, not male and male ! That's this way world has been created ! If I follow how you think, I hate niggers because I am ? Be sure not ! No, i did not say that you are homosexual. Some of the persons that go against homosexuals are faggots too, though they hate it. But i know that practically every heterosexual man fears being seen as homosexual. That's something you simply don't want to be. Though that goes away at some point. So you come from a religious side? Well, stories written by people in the past should not decide how reality is. Reality shows that homosexuality is there by animals as well as with humans. And i came to the conclusion that it is a perfectly fine type of love. It's not that they decided to be that way. So if they were born that way, then, as a religious person, you might need to think that god created them that way. No problem. |
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denkst du wir sollten unser coins abziehen Mensch, wie viele Deutsch(sprachig)e bekannte Gesichter hier! Ich habe den Report heute Morgen gelesen und… naja, sagen wir so: ich habe noch nie viel von Cryptsy erwartet, aber das hat mich schon geschockt. Und ich könnte mir vorstellen, dass der Laden zugemacht wird. Will hier allerdings jetzt keine (möglicherweise unnötige) Panik anschieben. Vorsichtig wäre ich aber allemal. Bin btw beeindruckt von dem, was ich von dem Bot bisher so gelesen habe. Ich habe selber einen kleinen Bot geschrieben (PHP mit dem TYPO3.Flow framework), allerdings mehr als Proof of Concept für private Zwecke. Daher schaue ich mich immer mal in der "Bot-Welt" um. Darkwinde, hast Du den Bot from scratch programmiert? Oder verwendest Du auch irgendein Framework? Ich frage, weil sich das Ganze so, wie Du es beschreibst, ja schon ziemilch modular anhört, wo sich einige Frameworks sicherlich anbieten. Gruß & keep up the good work! Wenn sie zumachen dann hat Darkwinde und die Botnutzer wenigstens ein Problem weniger mit der instabilen Tradingengine bzw API von cryptsy. Scheint auch eher Flickwerk zu sein was die da machen. |
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Bist du sicher mit FIFO? Ich glaube mal gelesen zu haben dass eher das Gegenteil gilt, also die ungünstigste Variante. LIFO?
Du darfst frei aussuchen, ob FIFO oder LIFO, du musst dann nur bei deiner Wahl bleiben. Dabei darfst du ganz offiziell die für dich steuerlich günstigste Variante wählen. Um es mit den Worten von Helmut Schmidt zu sagen: "wer die Pflicht hat, Steuern zu zahlen, hat auch das Recht, Steuern zu sparen". Das klingt natürlich gut. Nur beim Steuern sparen muss man natürlich nachweisen dass man das Recht darauf hat. Aber wenn man das wirklich lückenlos nachvollziehen kann. Eigentlich bin ich aber doch der Meinung dass man Coins identifizieren kann. Ok, bei Bankkonten geht das nicht, bei Bargeld schon. Die gleichen Regeln die für Bitcoins gelten gelten auch für Häuser. Vor über einem Jahr gekauft dann ist der Gewinn steuerfrei beim Hausverkauf. Und da geht LIFO nicht da eindeutig identifizierbar. Eigentlich könnte es sein dass ein Beamter auf die Idee kommt das ähnlich zu sehen. Naja... ich denke solange man über potentielle Gefahren nachdenkt sollte es klappen. Das Finanzamt hat einfach nicht die Zeit zu sehr hinterher zu sein. |
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One investor was surprised to hear about this "forced /offsite 0" rule, and said he would be very unhappy if it ever happened. And so I thought I should mention it here.
Sounds to me like he would have read it wrong, like i did the first time too, that your investment is set to zero. That would be hard. Though i don't see a big problem with the offsite. You would see that you lost alot anyway so it won't go unnoticed. The only reason against that might be that it "could" be harder to reclaim your losses then. But it would be very hard anyway. Though an advantage against investors that did not lose might not be bad. |
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