Ja, allerdings könnte man sagen dass praktisch jeder Newbie sich selbst über den Tisch zieht wenn er einen Miner kauft. Weil entweder haben Sie keine Ahnung dass die anfänglichen Gewinne sehr schnell weniger werden oder sie wissen es aber schätzen es komplett falsch ein. Es gibt selten mal Fälle wo das wirklich klappt.

Naja, wenn Yesminers betrogen hat dann sollten sie verklagt werden, ganz einfach. Oder waren die von Anfang an anonym?

Are you REALLY sure that you earned more from mining than you paid to invest there? There practically only exists cloud miners who are either complete scam or where you invest but over all the runtime would will not even get your investment back from the earnings.

Thanks everyone for the nice reviews. Shoot me a pm whenever you need an escrow again. I will get a notification on my smartphone and can check as long as iam not too far away from my computer.

Someone wrote some post above that the biggest shareholders visited him some time before, or only one of them?, and the poster wrote it might be possible that they got paid to keep calm.

I can't imagine that since it would mean that a lot of big players in the bitcoin world actually would be some form of scammers, getting paid knowing that everyone else will lose everything.

And the miners who were stolen in mongolia? Guess with no existing company now anymore there is no way at all to get them back. Or was that only a cover story?

Alles klar. Ich erinnere mich dass bei der Firma Yesminers von Anfang an Zweifel in der Community bestanden. Ich denke wenn man in der Bitcoinwelt nur ein wenig schon mal betrogen wurde hätte man dann eh nicht mehr investiert. Naja, ich hab mir das Geschäftskonzept nicht angeschaut aber wenn man kleine Zweifel hat dann ist es besser einfach nicht zu investieren. Keine Ahnung ob da jetzt jemand Geld mit verloren hat oder nicht.

Why don't you create a real shop? Would probably be easier to handle orders too. Though you need a good developer so that you know there are no backdoors or similar things implemented.

It would mean that not everyone in the world needs to have the transaction details of everyone other in the world. Because a big part of the transactions are in countries you will never care about. Which will decrease the amount of harddisc space you need.

Sidechains sound like a better solution though.

I wonder if it will happen since surely most people will prefer to use the real deal. Global network.

No need to ask me for such things, simply do it and i can provide escrow. When i know the rules of the competition i can create the escrow address and mention things that might need to be changed.

Blazed means there is no need to trust the campaign runner when there is a trusted escrow who holds an amount worth at least the probably outstanding payment for the next week. If the campaign doesn't pay for a week then the escrow should get informed and he can ask for stacking up of the escrow funds to calculate in that two payments are missing now. If nothing happens the escrow can tell the manager he has to pay or he will tell the poster to stop promoting. He can pay the poster then from the escrow funds. The risk should be pretty minimal.

Bitcoin has time to grow. There were times we used floppy discs with whopping 1,44 mb per disc. Now it's standard to use 1TB discs. That's 1000 * 1000 times more. Now check the time it took to get to that point and you will know when the time is ready that bitcoin can handle the currently used amount of transactions that visa has.

Actually it would be not a big deal to make the payments manually. What the escrow would have to do would be to simply receive the list of bitcoin addresses and the bitcoin amount from the signature campaign runner. Then the escrow can simply have a calc sheet that puts these details into a form that can be used to create a bulk transaction with his wallet. Maybe already adding the negotiated tip transaction to the escrow. Then sending.

No real work after all for the payment.

I think so too when it comes to technical analysis. Bitcoin doesn't care so much about indicator like forex for example. Though there are others that say bitcoin is easier to trade. They probably look at other things. Dunno.

I think it's wishfull thinking to believe that the core devs now, somehow, come up with a perma fix. What they do mostly is pushing lightning network, which in fact is no fix but simply "Not using bitcoin anymore". That is no fix to bitcoin, it's an evading solution.

It's the easiest way to secure a signature campaign. The advantage to the escrow is less work, disadvantage is less tips. At least the risk is not so very high mostly. I mean not many bitcoins to hold in most cases.

How? Can you manage to get so many views that google offers you a contract to get paid for views? Or do you put the videos on your own website that earns from advertising?

The bankers? You know that corrup Hearn is out of the game, i never understood why someone would want to work with him but somehow some did.

But let's look at the other direction. We have bitcoin as the real currency. Now we have some people that try to build something around bitcoin and they want that everyone uses them to interact with bitcoin. Over time the transaction fees for bitcoin will rise pretty high with 1mb blocks. At one point in time it might be that case that they are so very high that only a huge amount of lightning network transaction put into one bitcoin transaction makes sense anymore. So that no normal person can pay the bitcoin fees anymore.

The solution is easy then. Come use lightning network directly. No need to buy bitcoins, send us your fiat we give you virtual bitcoins on lightning network. You don't even have to touch bitcoins anymore.

What would we have then? A banking system. Only big companies and banks would be able to use bitcoin anymore. In fact it's the same we have now in the fiat world.

Well, this doesn't sound exactly like the great future satoshi envisioned. Though it seems some people have different interests while still claiming they are the original bitcoiners. Might be that there are alot of people who honestly think it will be the solution to not use bitcoin directly anymore.

In fact i doubt it will come this far. LN will have a hard time getting established in my opinion.

Then it might be the type of request i had. Anyway, it seems cryptostocks is back since some hours. Still the email functionality only works for the issuers, who receive their daily list of shareholders. But not for the normal user.

I'm not sure if kumala only added this now but at the bottom in settings there is a button to check if one can receive emails from cs. Though i can't receive emails from them. And my emailprovider is not blocking anything since i control it somewhat. The strange thing is that it worked months ago, now not anymore.

Ok everyone, it looks like cryptostocks is back again but it might be too dangerous to receive divs there anymore.

So again, please fill the form to let us move away from there. See my post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354636.msg13635853#msg13635853

And it seems there still are a couple of people who did not enable the option that the issuer can see their email address. Which would make it impossible to proove the shares you own.

For that reason, everyone who did not do this yet and who wants to keep his shares. Take this serious since it might be the last chance to set this option on cryptostocks. With the current way cs acts there is no saying when it vanishes completely.

So please go into your cryptostocks options



and enable this option:



Then you will show up in the list of shareholders the issuer can see and i can help to proof that you are the real owner of the shares.

Next step would be to follow the post i mentioned above. Here the link again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=354636.msg13635853#msg13635853

I will verify if you are the real owner of the email. So no scammer needs to bother trying something funny.

Nur kurz, Bitze hat mich gebeten eine Escrowadresse anzubieten für diejenigen die ihre Coins in Escrow haben möchten. Die Adresse lautet:

Viel Glück bei der Ziehung!

Ok everyone, the ICO Coins are on the way. I did a little error in thinking by believing that a transaction fee will take 0.00006 bitcoins though i did not consider that this is completely different when you have so many input transactions (Transactions with which the escrow address was loaded by investors.) So in order to avoid future high fees i consolidated the remaining funds at the new escrow address 143kkvwCpeeW42xK2todrqJCso9owxPpPg, which is solely for the block rewards.

The remaining funds and a tip were forwarded in the same transaction.

So at the moment the issuer has the ico coins and can work on making the coin better and the block rewards are safe too.

Thanks everyone and till next time...