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2561  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2021, 10:00:31 AM
can't understand this bashing of socialism

It's a gateway to Communism.

everything can be a gateway, but the gateway is not your enemy. look at the failed drug policy in which soft drugs are portrayed as dangerous gateway drugs.

You mean alcohol, nicotine and pharmaceuticals?
Damn right, yo.

EDIT:
Reality check.
THC as a gateway drug: Myth debunked.
Alcohol and nicotine as soft drugs: Myth debunked.
Politics and healthcare adjusting: Myth debunked.

Sad but true.

Overall, I find the orange man laughable, but at the same time i have no issue taking his side on censorship and being against big tech colluding to blacklist Parler. Guess i'm the minority that's able to think across the made up lines

that is true. I don't like the development where big tech companies decide which content and which ideologies are displayed and which are not.

But at the same time, I think that something has to be done about the spreading of incitement and untruths.

You can't have it both ways. People need to think for themselves. You can't have truth or thought police. This path leads to the dark side.

This is what you get from MSM.
Time for a new abbreviation. MSSN (mainstream social networks)?
2562  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 13, 2021, 07:41:50 AM
I'd be happy to see the first green daily close today. don't care so much if it goes sideways or up from here in the next few days or weeks.
Just no more red candles, pleeeeze   Grin


Not only twitter other social media sites like Facebook,  WhatsApp, Signal, Viber also banned
https://www.rocketnews.com/2021/01/uganda-regulator-orders-social-media-shutdown-before-tense-polls/
also Reddit banning all Bitchute links, tiny url be busy

Was merely pointing out their hypocrisy in light of recent event, i find twitter response hilarious.

There were some reports coming out that Twitter and other social media platform were busy banning the pro gov accounts, its election time so Uganda did good...

In future news:
Titter suspending accounts of users with opinions. Gatorade not affected.
2563  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2021, 10:48:12 AM
However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.


Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

So... full-scale cultural revolution and re-education camps?

If our goal is to 'prevent violence' at all costs, I guess we must ban boxing, UFC, 'toxic masculinity', video games and movies?

Nope.
"ban" if not violence, is at least force. Should be avoided.
Did i already say it's an educational problem at its roots?
We can only address future generations with broad success, but we need to actually start at some point.
2564  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2021, 09:58:09 AM
In vitamine D we trust

RONG!
In vitamin BTC we trust!


... they easily believe in conspiracy theories (the Alex Jones type), and, wait for it, they are almost exclusively devoted Christians! How perverse is that? How can they reconcile and combine the teachings of Christianity with misanthropic and violent attitudes and behaviour?

Well, christianity is very unlike to what the church was actually historically teaching. (judged by their past actions like inquisition etc.)
It's a basic form of separation the unworthy and the blessed. This is where all the trouble begins: comparison, judgement, condemnation (in this order).

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Is society creating new waves of repressed psychopaths? What is the cause of this? What can be done about it?

Educating and getting aware of the human ego. The entity in our minds that is responsible for judging and comparison of what's "good" and "bad".
The "bad" guys always think they're doing things for "good". Almost nobody is aware of that aspect of human thinking.
Schizophrenia or some kinds of drugs make us able to separate from and observe it.
2565  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2021, 09:01:44 AM
However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.


Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.
2566  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2021, 08:27:02 AM
I don't give a shit if 90% of the protestors were just marching. The 10% of the ones that stormed the capital are all felons and should be charged as such and all the congressmen/woman and Trumps and his sycophants should be charged with sedition.

You snowflakes crying about social media bans. I will drink all your pansy ass tears. You don't get to storm the capital and try to kill people in this country. These people deserve every ban they get.

Cry me a river with your treason.

But in Syria, Libya, Irak ......  you can do that and much worse???

Yuck!
I didn't even have breakfast yet, and thanks to you i probably won't have  Embarrassed
2567  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2021, 07:48:56 AM
Also, it's not being "extreme left" to prevent people from organizing a coup and lynchings, it's called civilization.

With that type of logic book burning can be justified indeed.
I see it as a slippery slope like I said. Others see it as a good thing for the greater good.

As pointed out that greater good is slowly controlled only by billionaires.


Book burning by whom ? We're talking about private companies here. And usually on bitcoin forums people don't have problems with billionaires, but I guess there are exceptions.

And you think it's ok for a few private companies to control what we can and can not say?

When People got sick of twitter and started to migrate to Parler, Twitters owner called Amazons owner and asked him to shut down Parlers servers to kill the competition. A blatant abuse of power, and probably against US antitrust and other laws.

Consider that AWS has already a history of such "measures". At least they seem to be "fair" in terms of unbiased (left/right) but maybe just picky about following their rules (terms of service). Sometimes more, sometimes less. However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources, and i see this principle applied here. There are many other channels, and also a history (everyone remember the "hotline" client/server network?).


In addition, you only have to go back 10 years before the Brexit vote and find out that in fact the Liberal Democrats wanted an in out referendum as well. Nothing to do with Robert Mercer or Nigel Farage.

Populism made almost all the difference.
UK is about to wake up with quite a hangover after the brexit party.

That's not true, as a free independent nation they can now make trade deals with the rest of the world instead of just the EU.

They will start building a free trade area with just about everyone as soon as they can.
And that area will soon be bigger then the EU, mark my words.
Remember EFTA, that Austria used to be part of before joining the EEC? That was started by the British.

I value your opinion, especially because you have far better historic knowledge than me.
This will become quite interesting. I think the UK may be in a weak position to set up trade agreements BUT the EU is already slowly dismounting itself from the inside.
So relative to the EU, the UK might end up stronger mid/long term, quite likely imo.

2568  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 12, 2021, 12:03:54 AM


That is about as real a take as it gets, you must live in the UK.
In a democracy the majority decide, not the educated, the elite, the left or right.
Most who voted leave had held that view long before a referendum was called.
The only people who did not see the leave majority vote coming, were the entire mainstream media, the well heeled elite, the so called educated classes, and the Labour party who think they know whats good for working people without asking them.



And you can't influence and manipulate the majority, can you?
You seem to undervalue mass psychology, imho.



Anyway, bitcoin does one thing since the genesis block, and that is: surprise us.
When i go by the least popular opinion, imo the sustained continuation of a bull run, for example.
It seems that sideways and down are the more popular expectations, so bitcoin is likely up to do something else  Wink
But this is another attempt to project the past onto future events, tbh. May fail as well, and certainly will at some point  Cool


After 8 years of trying I converted a nocoiner friend yesterday and they were lucky enough to buy the dip.

possibly the birth of a new hodler?

@Bloqport
Bitcoin surges an average of 153% after every 30% pullback 🔥
https://twitter.com/bloqport/status/1348742623809384450?s=21

These +153% would bring us into $80k territory, which the tarot grandma of a WO predicted recently (didn't remember his nickname).



When zooming out, the correction looks just right. Breaking the parabola and returning to trusty, old linear projection.
Shy investors will possibly like this, too.
Confidence.
 
EDIT: and good night!
2569  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 11:19:29 PM

In addition, you only have to go back 10 years before the Brexit vote and find out that in fact the Liberal Democrats wanted an in out referendum as well. Nothing to do with Robert Mercer or Nigel Farage.

Populism made almost all the difference.
UK is about to wake up with quite a hangover after the brexit party.
2570  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 11:13:17 PM
Up to almost $35k already... somebody's going to get rekt!  Cool

Rekting in progress. I would not be surprised to see it back to $40k sooner than I can wake up from my HODL sleep.

edit: still no meaningful pull back in alts that I follow. This market has. no. fear.

This is fine ...

Somebody has to buy the walls at $35k first.
They're not that high, anyway...
2571  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 10:55:30 PM

 Roll Eyes
This is too well behaved for a double mention.
Now give us the filthy stuff already  Grin

I dunno why but I got a feeling youre going to regret this...  Grin

P.S. rusty pipes and all...

hold my beer!



It's all in that thumb  Cheesy
2572  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 10:34:47 PM

Meh.  Been seeing similar shit from the left for the last year and more.  Not news.  Its only newsworthy if it benefits the establishment.

I certainly won't doubt that.
There's that smell of whataboutism in your reply, though.

...Trump...
...dc-uprising-armed-trump...



 Roll Eyes
This is too well behaved for a double mention.
Now give us the filthy stuff already  Grin
2573  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 10:23:00 PM


Peoples...... Exactly.....

Always the same

strangely, it actually makes some sense...a perceived danger avoidance vs getting more-which one is more important, psychologically?

Depends on the motivation: Fear vs greed?

EDIT: I doubt "motivation" is the right term, but i hope you get what i meant.

some strong-willed individuals could be motivated by greed more, but for the majority, fear is a much stronger, animalistic emotion.
It harks back to our roots when we were hiding in the caves many thousands of years ago.

There's even a weak connection, imo:
While fear is an instinct, greed is based on instincts (mostly preservation).
"Strong will", under scope of this view, is coming with the lack or absence of fear - or its social descendants, like uncertainty.
2574  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 09:59:45 PM


Peoples...... Exactly.....

Always the same

strangely, it actually makes some sense...a perceived danger avoidance vs getting more-which one is more important, psychologically?

Depends on the motivation: Fear vs greed?

EDIT: I doubt "motivation" is the right term, but i hope you get what i meant.
2575  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 09:48:38 PM
Over 70% of successful attacks are coming from "inside". So by probability, they hired the wrong guy, regardless of the details.

This. Why would you spend millions and possibly years to try to decrypt the files if you can just use human factor and get away with a few grand admin's bonus?  Grin

Exactly.
Also, some admins hold personal unencrypted backups of encrypted data.
Social engineering is, not by accident, still the most popular "key" to the most widespread backdoor: the user.
2576  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 09:40:30 PM

Reading the above quote just shows the intellectual and moral level of some of those American "patriots". I think many of them should probably be admitted to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation. The wiring in their brains seems seriously wrong. And the sad part for them is that Trump probably doesn't give a fuck about them...


HATE should be treated as a sickness, i totally agree.
Problem: Hate is an instrument of power. That's why Trump is allowing it. In his view it's probably freedom of speech, only with a grain of salt.

EDIT: I see support levels (buywalls) are rising with the price. Confidence.

Anger is the easiest emotion of them all.  It is also the most misdirected one.  

I feel bad for these crazy people for the sole reason that they are indeed angry and unhappy.  They are too uneducated and out of touch with themselves to really understand what they are angry or upset about.  Instead, the media and others gives them an easy target and out comes that anger.  Doesn't matter what it is... they just need a target to unleash their unhappiness on.

I wish that EQ training was part of our standard school systems in USA like it is in other countries.  At least then maybe they could understand their own anger before directing it at targets that the media gives them.

I have a different view on anger:
One of my four kids has big problems with aggression. He was the most quiet one in the first three years of life. In fact, he's also the most intelligent and sensitive among his siblings. He just starts to consciously getting aware of this, because we (parents) kind of mildly forcefully teach him to do so. This is a lot of work.
All four are raised in a loving, caring environment, within well defined borders. All have to follow the same rules, there is no preference or ranking (besides age).
All i know is: If you let this pass and don't address it EARLY, the consequences can be devastating in a young man's life. From violence to self-harm. I've seen this in quite some people i got known to. Sometimes hate is like "given", but the most outstanding difference is that when my wife was pregnant with him, she went through a very battlesome (if that is the right word) period of her live.

EDIT2: All my buys from the last 24 hours just broke even minutes ago. Confidence.

I didn't sell, I didn't buy. Tempted to sell some tiny amount I have in Kraken (around 1 coin) at the beginning of the dip, but I know I'm a lousy trader, so I just HeDL. I don't mind, it's picking up now, and even if it dips again, it's just a matter of time. So all is fine.

Looks like we have some qualities we share. And points of view. #nohomo

2577  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 09:18:35 PM

Reading the above quote just shows the intellectual and moral level of some of those American "patriots". I think many of them should probably be admitted to a psychiatric hospital for evaluation. The wiring in their brains seems seriously wrong. And the sad part for them is that Trump probably doesn't give a fuck about them...


HATE should be treated as a sickness, i totally agree.
Problem: Hate is an instrument of power. That's why Trump is allowing it. In his view it's probably freedom of speech, only with a grain of salt.

EDIT: I see support levels (buywalls) are rising with the price. Confidence.

EDIT2: All my buys from the last 24 hours just broke even minutes ago. Confidence.
2578  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 08:53:32 PM
Also this. I mean they can easily touch the databases.

I’m not a system architect but expect it really depends on the setup.  If they are using Bring Your Own Key (which they should be...) then it’s all encrypted and AWS doesn’t have the key.  

Over 70% of successful attacks are coming from "inside". So by probability, they hired the wrong guy, regardless of the details.

Another nice post from a Trump supporter



Means: By degenerate, poor working class, backcountry nazi tards, we're about to be thrown back some good 70 years again.
Only this time it's a different continent. Every culture seems to have to learn this awkward lesson, only to conclude that "this must never happen again in human history. ever."

EDIT: Forget that poor working class stuff, but those will be used to fulfill these megalomaniac goals.
2579  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 08:50:11 PM
IDK if that is the case here, but some "leaks" are (stolen) data collections that refused to sell for the desired amount of money.


CNN Business  Grin

Quote
Bitcoin plunges more than 20% in three days. It's now in a bear market
New York (CNN Business)Bitcoin prices surged to a new all-time high of nearly $42,000 on Friday, only to plunge all the way back to about $31,000 Monday morning. That's a more than 20% drop -- which means bitcoin is now in a bear market, as bizarre as it sounds.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/11/investing/bitcoin-prices-plunge/index.html

GREAT !!!
We're in a BEAR MARKET according to MSM.
You know what that means, right?
We're about to go up again.  Cool
2580  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: January 11, 2021, 08:08:18 PM
Looks like Honey Badger is crawling back out of it's hole after taking a short nap.  All of those walls it ate in the last couple weeks was bound to make it sleepy.

Magic 8-Ball says good chance we are all slightly less poor in the near future.

Nah, bears still testing support.

EDIT: Look at Gyrsur's TA posts. If you like to rely on TA, he's quite a sane source imho.
Also read good stuff by Biodom lately. I underestimated his analysis, which i retrospectively had to admit recently.
Buy/sell decisions* are on your own, however (like always).



* In my case there are only buy decisions  Grin
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