I hilighted the part my "seconded" was referring to. The slower than anticipated price rise. Some WO's granny predicted 80k (we don't know if € or $, yet), and i feel this could also be the top in 2021, while it absolutely says nothing about 2022, maybe in Q1 we can see double figures or three times as much before possible blowoff or consolidation.
All just SOMA.

As for moveing averages, i'd search for those that fit past cycles best. I don't care if i set most of my orders higher, just to avoid remaining, sitting on a bag of slowly decreasing fiat money. $16k would be more than four times as much as 2019's bottom, which you could clearly see (and i bought a little of BTC when it was on the rise again, shortly after). I mean that last high-volume drop up to -45%. Even if it doesn't happen in future times, when you sell on the way up, which i got a small part of my stash for, it doesn't really matter if you buy around mindrust or 10-20% higher, also if the price goes deeper before rising again. So i won't make 1000% of the amount i sold on the way up, but 700-800% which is enough. Imagine 5BTC, total, i decide to sell 0.5 more or less near the cycle top and buy 2-3 at the bottom +10%, i still total at least 6.5 BTC.
Being greedy (daytrading) didn't really work for me, so i'm playing the patience game, dropping free money into small dips.
 


My wife is different. We magically seem to agree on the "we want" part of expenses, while she pays the "i want" part by herself, and she also has bitcoin (as a reserve for the future), so if she's desperate for more money, she would just pay out a bit of her stash. I am aware that i'm very lucky with her, compared to most couples i know, which become pretty function-oriented partnerships based on compromises. We don't need that.


I believe in S2F, but as you can see, the "ballpark lines" (steps?) are long at the same levels, so the top could be in Q2, even in Q3 of 2022.
But then, as i originally meant it, the price will have to rise more slowly than compared to 2017.
The model is not "wrong", but imprecise. The market has to move a fucking lot of money to re-draw 2017's chart this year. Call me bearish, but i doubt that.
I would not be angry in any way if i'm wrong and we see $330k or more in dec/jan, but more the opposite.
BTW: Have you had a look into S2FX, yet?  

Seven replies while i was typing... holy f... i'm slow 

Yeah, it was a kind of semi-joke in the form of "guys, put your money where your mouth is" 
Thanks for jumping in so quickly, Dabs 

Nooo, alcohol and high uv-radiation levels are not beneficial in curing out a viral infection, generally.
But prevention is a whole different case 

Made my day  
The only bet i do is on BTC
Only exception was the sMerit one i did with Bob (last year?) when i was kinda manically over-excited.

EDIT: Speaking of cunt-morons... Cumorons... What was the name of the former british prime minister? David Cumoron, sounds familiar 

So, if any of you happen to get the Covid19 with slow onset of symptoms, here's a little advice:
Rinse your mouth and gargle your throat with a good single malt (anything with a good amount of %vol will do, though), at best one minute, several times a day.
Spit out. I tried it, it's tough, BUT it's a good method to reduce viral load, which tends to overwhelm the immune system at later stages of infection.
SO if your system doesn't react quickly in a drastic way to the virus, better be safe than sorry. Viral load is a key to immune reaction strength, even if your system is low on power (immunosuppressed) or reacting too slow on initial infection.

Any mouthwater rinse (L*ster'ne) containing a good amount of alcohol will do as well, but if you don't tolerate sorbitol well (like me), the whiskey route is a good alternative.
MIght save one or other WO's or beloved ones life, does no harm either.

Did i already mention i'm a big fan of "life hacks"?

How bout you two open a side-bet on the 2021/22 top price?
below or above $200k, BTC only, with escrow. (Mr. D.?)

EDIT: You could also leverage. Who doesn't these days? 

FYI: Onchain analysts all say that october will all be about rip or dip.
Chances of rip are higher, also based on history, but as we all know, king daddy doesn't care so much about the past.

Somebody mentioned the sentiments are arriving at frustration levels, which usually led to many rocket.gifs posted on WO.

I CAN'T HELP to think that HFT bots are involved, considering the rate and range at which walls are "moving" in real time.
Also, if you watch for longer times, the same total amounts are set per price range are consantly appearing out of nowhere, getting adjusted on very low timeframes.
I watch them grouped by $10, $50 and $100.
Does that hurt marketcap growth?
Imo yes, a little bit. It makes sure that exchange coins stay in rotation (liquid) while fiat is milked out of the market.
Once the bullish counter-movement (you know what i mean?)  overwhelms the average of ask orders by magnitudes, it's moon time again, while the bots will continue milking, but at less efficiency. If you have all the money up your ass you can't even spend within a lifetime, why milk the market?

Smells like... right: hedgefunds discovered crypto.

EDIT: ...and i didn't even mention Futures and Options yet.

EDIT2: So what can you do? My approach is just go with the flow. Buy the dips, check price less often, and never forget about mindrust.
@LFC, ya hearing me, mah man?

seconded.
But by all means, i don't follow the "fool of the bulls" argument from Torque. Bulls know how capitulation looks like, wait for it then and get in (around the infamous "mindrust point").
However, i'd need a new car within the next two years, solar power my home and pay off approx. $12k to the government to free myself from a payback plan from the government. Only the latter is really important, because otherwise i'd have to pay it off for the next 15 years for about double as much (mainly interest).
I can easily hodl the majority of my/the family stash for one or two decades.

Y'all remember that get-rich-quick-vs.-not-get poor-slowly quote, right?

I came to the decision, that from today i will only put bots and peeps who ask me to on ignore.
Your original post was also part of making me reconsider if ignore lists match my personal values.
(EDIT: and i used to click show/hide too often, anyway)

Somehow it's too emotional for me today, too many moving memories. i think i'll resort to read-only mode and mix myself a nice, big glass full of gin-tonic (Boar blackforest gin and schweppes dry) for the rest of the evening.
#snowflakeforever  

When i went for a visit of our new neighbor, he has a dog, a "muensterlaender", with a muzzle on.
Not all dogs are naturally trustworthy. Normally dogs are showing signs of escalation: Visual fixation, taking an upright and stiff posture, barking, growling, snatching, biting - in this particular order.
This one went right trying to bite my balls, as soon as he saw me getting out of the car and realizing me as a stranger. I was quite "surprised" in a negative way. So quick, without signs of warning.
Not all dogs are mentally "right", and i forbid my kids (they were inside the car) to get near this one. The holder almost lives like an eremite, the dog seems to take care of preserving and protecting the "family constellation", and it does it very seriously. In the world of dogs, he was acting plausible.

Most dog bites are "scare-bites", though, for example when accidentally stepped on the tail by a stranger. I actually had two cases of scare-biting with one of my dogs. The waitress he bit was panicking, rushed to the hospital and this means the doctors have to inform the police about the incident. As the dog was registered, they gave a warning, because the dog would be put down after a second bite. ...which occurred a year later. The renter of the flat i was living in, also scared of dogs, was talking to me through the half opened door, the dog was watching from my side. Then she suddenly stepped forward, my dog rushed to her leg and bit. It was a hostile move, from his point of view, because she was always avoiding to get near him, he must have recognized her like some stranger. It wasn't a hard bite, no blood at all, but she rushed to the hospital as well. I could save his life only because the local police chief was a relative of the renter and no serious injuries were caused (skin haematoma) by the bite, but i had to give him to the boarding kennels where i originally got him from. It's a good place, no cages, just a pack of dogs living almost naturally in a fenced area. It was a five hour drive, but i visited him as often as i could, until he died at the age of seven. It was a custom breed, and the (idiot) breeder incorporated incest into the breeding line, which made all the dogs genetically weak. As far as i know, my dog had the longest life of all dogs of his line. I came to see three other ones, all impaired. Mine was just overly suspicious, took me quite some time to earn his trust as well. The breeder's license got revoked later, too. I also continued to pay the monthly fee for the dog's home, like a recurring donation. They really got a heart for dogs there and the owner was a friend, otherwise he would not have given the dog away.

Gotta look for a pic now...

EDIT: He was also a real beauty, but he always had this worried look.

R.I.P.




this.

Well, you're right imo, but i even know a few guys (and gals) personally, who seem to unable to even say "hello" without swearing. It is just their version of etiquette, damn loyal people at their hearts, though.
If you are too polite, they will most likely call you a freaking faggot or something like that and tell to GTFO. They remember me a lot of the "cathleen's bike" people.
Back in the days, one told me he will punch out my girlfriends teeth and piss in the "hole", which would be translated to "i don't like what she just said".
So i might be much more used to "bad speech" than most other people.

When somebody is purely name-calling, i would see it as trying to distance himself from the one(s) he's directing his words at.
I guess we all swear and call names inside, but we were taught to keep it there.
Overall, it is considered "verbal violence", but i'd only consider it as violence if the one who is addressed with these wordings is suffering from it. If you continue to hurt somebodies feelings though you are aware, you're probably just an asshole.
All in all, it's a manifestation of the "dark side" we all have within, whether we realize it or not. Better let it out from time to time through filthy words, before somebody gets harmed, maybe even physically.
I believe swearing can be healthy and relieving, if "done right".

EDIT: muhfucka, more than 2000 posts already?!  I wonder how many of them were kinda "on topic" 

Seems to be an emotional day here at the WO folks...
I hope we all will be rewarded with a green $10k candle, which is predicted on twatter for today. But king daddy will just do what king daddy always does: he won't care.

From my point of view, family is much more for whom i care, not who is related to me, could well be an animal, too.

Lately, it seems signs of change pop up virtually everywhere, Bitcoin (and crypto) seems finally to be taken serious by the "laugh about you" peeps.
Hopefully the "fight you" era will turn into a extensive phase of adoption, because then "we all win"!

Aaah, fuck that! A dog is a friend. At least it is considering its human as such.
Sorry for your loss 

Name calling is honesty, though.
We were educated that it's not "polite", but i'm fine with it, because actions matter thousand times more than words.
Words are just a lining, decoration or vocally encrypted emotions with a little bit of explicit and/or implicit information as well (the payload).
One can see it as an expressive vocal art form. Think about Eric Cartman (and the fact he has friends, too).

To be honest, i'm trained by one of my sons, who regularly shouts at everbody else, swearing, namecalling...
We let him do. No discussion, though.
A few minutes later he comes back and is deeply sorry, which weighs hundred times more than the words he said before.

You're right there. I can't rant about society muting minorities and, at the same time, favor the ignore list.
I should read it all, and then decide each time if i want to get me involved. I let the ignore list silently steal this decision from me.
EDIT: Now going on with this day IRL

Yeah, we are usually faster with words than we're aware of the triggering emotions.
I can see valid points in both of your opinions. It's just that the underlying values seem to be very different.
Everybody is struggling with something, under the hood.  
This just affects all of our actions without us being aware.

For me, as an example, it's not fitting into this shitty society.
But here in WO it's different and that could well be the reason we're all still here.


Your environment is affecting us more than we are aware.
In the end, we're just not made to live our life like sardines in a tin box.

There's always at least one different view, on any topic. There's no harm done by trying to see it/them as well.
Peace of mind is nothing that is to be found, but it's something that has to be created.

...and i thought savetherainforest is on every WO's ignore list...

Consider, most of them seem ike ordinary people, some of them even look like they get overwhelmed by a decision like choosing between two different cans of cat food to open.
However, the latter were finally jumping, so they went well out of their usual limits.
I know it sounds ironic, but i really mean it this time.



C'mon! You knew that i'd like to hear 
Habaneros?

What a pity, spicy stuff fucks up my colon.
Even more so, i really loved hot spices in the past. I thought the pain was normal, for some time.
Maybe i should try again, because the Bromelaine also got me rid of reflux, may as well have some benefits for the whole intestinal tract.