Craig is a threat to this whole forum, and his threat continues to grow.
wait, he is going to copyright this forum and its contents? |
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I really need to investigate hardware wallets. My instinct is to rely on running a full node, and using sensible security precautions on the computer. I feel slightly uncomfortable about using a 3rd party product, especially with a Bluetooth connection. I'm sure this a self-imposed limitation, as so many people seem to be using these wallets, and they have obviously checked the security they offer.
i really suggest a hardware wallet for any significant amount of coin. partly because of its ability to be recreated based with its seed words if lost/stolen/broken, and partly because of its "plausible deniability" feature of having multiple independent wallets on the same device. that being said, ive run the core wallet on my always on windows desktop pc since 2011. desktop been rebuilt a couple times but the 2011 wallet has always gone onto it and is there now. i use it to receive mining payouts and occasionally send transactions to an exchange. so good computer security and common sense on its uses is the main thing if youre going to keep using a software wallet. i mention it because it seems someone always comes along and says using windows is practically a guaranteed way to get hacked. well *nix is better security wise but windows, when properly configured and updated is pretty good too. not that i recommend running windows and a software wallet, hardware wallet is the way to go IMO. but it can be done. i have trezor one, trezor t, and ledger nano s. i like the trezors best. |
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I know that some peeps don't like roach, but I thought that the most recent flag against him was merely to warn newbies (and I suppose others) about him - not to get him banned or to get his post deleted - even though some peeps would not mind achieving that either. Of course, roach seems to go on a bit of a worse spouting of nonsense from time to time, but his nonsense doesn't really seem to be getting any worse - maybe running out of shock value, and lots of folks don't likely read his posts in detail - maybe skim them from time to time, including yours truly.  By the way, sometimes I believe that some of Roach's posts are allowed to stand that should be deleted - but of course, discretion is going to differ from person to person, and overall, infofront does seem to strike a decent balance with his largely hands-off style, and largely leaves it to us to tell roach to fuck off or to ignore roach or whatever other variation of interaction with roach (or not) that we might individually choose. anyone reading roach will very quickly find his anti crypto, racist, sexist, anti semitic, anti anything except white stance. like within a post or two. his posts almost never vary, its like he has a macro or just copy/pastes from his standard template. i dont think anyone really needs help figuring that out. and once in a great while he does post something useful on some subject in which he does have some knowledge. i cant actually see any harm in his obviously wacko postings, and after all thats what the ignore button is for. perhaps delete his really offensive posts is all thats needed, and infofront seems to have a good balance there. not that im defending him, personally i find hes a thoroughly vile and despicable person, and im not even on his hate list as far as my demographic. guess my point is, there no need to ban (or arbitrarily delete every post of his) him here in this thread. once we start to arbitrarily delete posts that disagree with what most of us think, well i dislike where that may lead. i do not want the WO thread to be an echo chamber. i find this thread is my main source of bitcoin information, and both good and bad information is needed for one to make informed decisions. |
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been more or less expecting this.
i pulled everything from binance today (not much) and will join the us version when its up and running.
im not really a trader (well i do a very few trades) so its no big deal but for those usa persons that do.. sucks man.
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Been a while since I've updated this. Bitcoin has established 11 doubling floors since 2012 at a starting price of $2.50. This time period probably captures most of the crowd still hanging around WO. Anyone here still hodling pre-$2.50 corn?
yup mined in 2011. still have some of those. when i started they were ~$10, went to ~$35 (woot!) then crashed to around $2 towards the end 0f 2011. but i still kept mining even at those prices. paid off big time later of course. but i didnt discover WO till way later. |
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much to my surprise, a couple days ago nicehash paid a little more from what they owed me from the hack a couple years ago. not much, and they still owe me, but a payment came through. it has been a loooong time since the last payout.. maybe over a year.
This is my own personal understanding on the subject. I've been getting regular payouts from Nicehash from their repayment program as soon as I started mining again. If you're not mining, the repayments will not be regular; instead they will accumulate in your mining account until the preset limit is reached, at which point they pay it out to the wallets. The minimum payout limit is dictated by the network fees thanks, that explains it then. i havent mined there since the hack. if they ever finish paying me off i may reconsider. not that i have tons of hash, so i dont miss it at all. |
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Moon news: https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/06/massive-blob-discovered-moon-surface/Huge mystery blob found under the moon's far side
Researchers have discovered something massive lurking underneath the far side of the moon: a mysterious blob with the mass akin to a pile of metal five times the size of the Big Island of Hawaii.
The structure, described in a recent study published in Geophysical Research Letters, sits at least 180 miles beneath the South Pole-Aitken basin—a colossal crater punched into the lunar landscape billions of years ago, when the moon's initially molten surface had cooled just enough for impacts to leave a lasting mark.
The blob is likely related to the crater's formation, and it may be the remnants of an ancient impactor's metal core, says study coauthor Peter James of Baylor University. TMA-1 has been found |
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re: nicehash
much to my surprise, a couple days ago nicehash paid a little more from what they owed me from the hack a couple years ago. not much, and they still owe me, but a payment came through. it has been a loooong time since the last payout.. maybe over a year.
anyone else get a payout? or has anyone received all that they are owed?
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My girlfriend had what turned out to be an ant trapped in her ear. And it was one of the bitey ants. We tried to drown it with olive oil like the internet says, but that only made it mad. So she insisted we go to the hospital, which was a waste of money as the doctor couldn't get it out. Try not to go to a hospital in the Philippines if you have the option.
The thing eventually died about 24 hours later, but only after it had bitten the shit out of her ear. She had bleeding and temporary hearing loss... All is good now though. Just thought I would share that fun story with you.
for foreign objects in the ear, an ear nose and throat doctor is the go to solution (they have the tools and expertise to not damage the eardrum). and bugs in the ear are a priority appointment, call and tell them they will get you in that day. im surprised the ED didnt refer you to one. source: i worked at an ENT practice. caller with bug in ear? come on down now. we got bugs in the ear all the time. although children putting the most surprising things in their nose was the most common. kids putting batteries in their nose was the worse (corrosive if they leaked). if we couldnt get it out in the office a surgery was scheduled that day. mainly for anesthesia, no cutting was involved. but the tools had to do pretty far up, its amazing how big the sinuses are. |
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We're gonna need a whole new internet if JJG and Shelby start discussing things.
I've already had some exchanges back and forth with that nutjob, and he is an expert at technical divergence, obscurity of points, irrelevance, appeals to status and other bullshit logical and misrepresentation fallacy presentations. I believe that you would much rather go have a drink with me, rather than that pretentiously pompous ass, who has been banned from the forum several times due to [...].  The only word I understood there was 'drink' and I believe you're right, we 3 should meet up while this whole thing blows over and put the world to rights. O.k... theoretically, it seems like all fun and games, and I am pretty sure that I would not have any issues passing some shit (over drinks) with you, V8, but Jesus f-- c-- I am not confident in my own level of tolerance to put up with pretentious fuck anunymint.. ... it's like going to have a drink with Craig SW.... I feel a lack of sufficient patience to tolerate such a farcical attention-whore bullshitter. hey id be down on being in on that conversation. although honestly my brain would hard lock within minutes in all likelihood. maybe i will need to bring an electroshock machine to restart my brain as needed. his inability to make any genuine or meaningful points without exaggeration(s) whos? yours or Shelbys? i can always have teams of scientists, physicists and game theory experts on call to help interpret Shelbys arguments. not sure what to have on call for your stuff |
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Shelby asked me to make an edit (addition) to his quote i posted above, it is the additional text starting with "SUBJECT: I don’t think crypto can fix the West"
whatever your views of religion or him personally are, he is worth paying attention to.
as far as my personal view of CSVs advance notice: "so long, and thanks for all the fish"
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an observation from Shelby: Hope this is the last follow-up, because I really don’t want to be posting on this forum, but this is very important for readers. Want to make clear what our options are and what the reality of the situation really is. Quote from: hv_ on Today at 10:22:13 AM Sigh, world s financial markets and regulations are not a wish concert. And yes, it's pretty much overdone and overregulated , totally agreed But how can u safely and sustainable change that to a better? Try to offend it openly by using clear and obvious illegal protocols and expect world wide adoption? Would that ever work knowing before there are 100s of analysts and cyber risks experts sitting on every such gateway where we see they can stop things and close down every that touches law by any means? My point is that there’s nothing we can do to change the fact that satism will enslave those who want to participate in the statist economy. How can one honestly expect to partake in an evil thing and not be subject to evil? Of course statism is all about defection and cheating on each other via the collective, so of course everyone (other than the devout Christian) prefers to cheat than be honest with themselves. Instead come out of the statism and only use cryptocurrency in the non-statist economy of like-minded (probably devout “superrational” Christians, because others will be “rationally” selfish and turn against you when convenient) individuals who refuse to report transactions to and source their services and goods from the statist economy. In that case anonymity is irrelevant, e.g. refer to everything as a gift which is for example excluded from taxation in the U.S.A.. Additionally if careful about meta-data and knowing your entire community is using the same ISP, then individual identity can’t be traced on the Bitcoin blockchain. Better on-chain anonymity might be helpful for those who come out of the Great Harlot statism (yet not absolutely necessary), but it won’t help those who don’t come out of the statism, because statist economy meta-data will be impossible to scramble sufficiently. Given that Bitcoin’s mutability can’t be challenged, per the game theory and economics of the SegWit donations attack that is coming, we have no option of adding on-chain anonymity to the store-of-value cryptocurrency which already has the most network effects and mining adoption that can’t possibly be superseded any more: https://medium.com/@shelby_78386/secrets-of-bitcoins-dystopian-valuation-model-cbf95efa3542https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@anonymint/secrets-of-bitcoin-s-dystopian-valuation-modelThe only competition now is potentially for a transaction volume scaling coin and for the reasons I explained on my above linked blog, the scaling coin can’t also be the hodler store-of-value coin. And because adaptive block size is insecure (or trustless due to centralized control over parameters, which is thus insecure), it’s not even clear that a secure, trustless scaling coin can be constructed. Quote from: hv_ on Today at 10:22:13 AM What is the correct strategy to get Bitcoin adoption world wide? A ) btc with shit protocol changes and dropped signatures plus 2nd layer stuff against aml checks? B ) bch going anarcho and dark protocol C ) bsv, stay as clean as possible and openly go the most transparent and regulation friendly road map? Whether you like it or not, the store-of-value coin is Satoshi’s immutable v0.5.3 protocol. And this will be enforced soon with the SegWit donations attack on the Core shitcoin. Per my first post in this thread (relayed via @infofront because this is very important), Craig is apparently claiming they will initiate Satoshi’s cleverly designed defense mechanism. So Craig is playing the role of fooling those mindless bunny rabbits ( http://trilema.com/2018/how-to-piss-me-the-fuck-off-a-guide/) who idolize nonsense so much that they can’t even correctly interpret what Craig is really saying. This is again how Satan is giving people their free will as he corrupts them with idolization. You have your free will to correctly interpret that invariants of the reality here, or irrationally idolize what you wish would a snowflake reality. SUBJECT: I don’t think crypto can fix the West I don’t think crypto can fix the West. The West must crash and burn. So I ignore Craig’s vacuous blather about legal compliance. The West will turn batshit insane and lawless, totalitarianism will prevail. There is absolutely nothing we can do in the cryptocosm to avert that outcome. False hopes are not going to help us survive what is coming. Bitcoin should resist all government interference in terms on-chain transactions. But no form of money can resist the government thugs with “rubber hoses” at the on and off-ramps. All the cheerleading about scaling and adoption is vacuous, inapplicable nonsense. Bitcoin is being adopted as a superior gold by the wealthy who want to store their assets out-of-reach of the government. The problem is if you don’t come out of the Great Harlot system, then the government is going to find some way to take it all away. Stop thinking about good times coming. About how many yachts you’re going to buy and living the good life. Bad times are coming. Very bad times. Prepare accordingly. |
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Started at the beginning of this thread and reread first few pages. General trend in mining. Lot of excitement at first then by page 99 reality has set in. Ugh over and over goes the scam. Please look up definition of insanity might be enlightening for some of you. Also taking a look at who merited this thread it’s the same group that jumps on all these threads and fanboys it up. Patterns hmmmm they do mean something! Anyway 4k$ cards aren’t the future of crypto unless centralization is inventible. Those that have the means will push the rest out. Has that not indeed happened. Well not for the group that merits all these hw threads. They are the ones getting one over on you folks. One can only hope more will See this for what it is before they lose their shirts!!!
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yup. just like other mining hardware. take a chance. might roi, might not. i read up, checked stuff out, took a chance and rolled the dice for an air cooled BCU1525. my bcu makes maybe a couple buck a day now, some others have hit days of a few more bucks by chasing the various alts, but im the set and forget, autoexchange pool type of miner. oh well. fun toy to lose money with anyway. one thing in its (bcu1525) favor: very adjustable power settings and built to what looks to be many years of trouble free service. who knows it may roi yet, but i dont expect that (if ever) for a long time. im patient. but as whitefire mentions, at this point dont buy any fpga until the bitstreams you want are out in the wild. |
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Lastly, that bon mot was just a devil's advocate response to vapourminer's flight of fancy.
i know, im a sucker. i always hope for the best in people. its sometimes an entertaining line of thought, rarely works out that way though. i edited my last reply to you to clarify a bit (hopefully anyway). this real life stuff sure is a drag on my time. |
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What kind of delusional mental gymnastics does it require to view Satoshi re-establishing the supremacy of his initial design -- after it had been shanghaied by a cabal of latecomers who almost to a man decided early on that Bitcoin would never work -- as being either 'at the slightest whim' or 'his own benefit'? That's rather insane. so hes butthurt. time to act like a 5 year old and throw a temper tantrum and hurt a large number of innocent people by crashing the value of the coins they bought by selling that chain to buy his. now thats ok, they are his. and the price will naturally take a dive, thats normal too. but the 51% attack so they cant even move them until he says they can is simply vindictive. it will prevent innocents from getting out with minimum damage. he wants to drive the other chains coins to zero and do it while no one can get their coins out to an exchange to exchange to something else. scorched earth? seems when there should be many other ways he can handle this without causing a lot of innocent coin holders a world of hurt, well thats just a whim to me. no other reason seems to fit. guess i dont think like him, luckily. bsv will "follow all laws" i think he mentions too (correct me if im wrong). you know, so clawbacks, confiscation and blocking funds can be done by those countries. which countries? USA? Venezuela? UK? China? Russia?
Yet -- if it is CSW's utterances to which you refer -- he advocates a return to the protocol enshrined upon release of 0.1 in perpetuity. If you can find some way to explain how that design -- a permissionless one at that -- can be used to implement clawbacks, confiscation, and blocking funds, I'm all ears. found this at his blog. https://craigwright.net/blog/bitcoin-blockchain-tech/shades-of-black/Possession of a key is not evidence of ownership. It was never the intent of Bitcoin. It is the intent of people like Greg Maxwell, James Donald, and others who seek a system that acts outside the law. If you have a stolen asset, possession doesn’t make it yours. It applies to Bitcoin equally. If bitcoin is stolen through stolen keys, they do not give the receiver ownership. They do not act as proof. In monetary law, money is fungible and transferable only when it is exchanged without knowledge of fraud or malpractice and for good consideration. It is critical. To be money, Bitcoin does not rely on the mere possession of keys, which is the aim and desire of those seeking a new version of Liberty Reserve coin or e-gold. There are some who will tell you that the mere possession of a key is definitive evidence. They are avoiding the rules of evidence and courts, and seek to alter their nature. sure sounds like a blacklisting of some sort. some coins will not be allowed to move via private key when some criteria/law is broken. perhaps im misunderstanding. i seek clarity. |
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i do think we all figure (well maybe just me?) his coins, when claimed by the real satoshi, would be used in a responsible manner, to do minimal damage and not for revenge. even if he just spent them on himself. not crash forks he may not like. after all if bch and bsv ( <- substitute your bad guy flavors of bitcoin here) are just forks , why attack them anymore than attacking eth/ltc/whatever. just because they tried to claim the btc name and vision? so what. they would fail anyway as soon as he move the coins off those addys and says (whatever) chain is the true one. anything more is childless revenge.
this was always an experiment that could come crashing down at any moment anyway. i always knew that and still consider it that.
Maybe just claim his fork coins and dump them both for BTC Weeeeeeeeeeee if i were satoshi (ALL BOW BEFORE THE MIGHTY VAPOURMINER... err i mean SATOSHI) i would dump the alts and donate them to charities/research/foundations. many of the real bitcoin stash too. i mean satoshi really needs more than a million coins to be happy? jeez and i thought I was being greedy with my pitiful aspirations.. |
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[tulip fund/satoshi stash]
We all knew what we were getting into with bitcoin. Satoshi could come back at any time and dump his entire stash. Most of us have made a calculated bet that this won't happen.
Forking away is not an option. We'd be no better than the cult of Vitalik forking away after getting butthurt about the DAO "hack".
agreed. the real satoshi could come back anytime and use his funds. and any chain that forks or freezes those coins is worthless. the whole point of btc is "your keys your coins," not "your keys, too bad." btc forks and im out. satoshis stash is his. no matter what the outcome. i do think we all figure (well maybe just me?) his coins, when claimed by the real satoshi, would be used in a responsible manner, to do minimal damage and not for revenge. even if he just spent them on himself. not crash forks he may not like. after all if bch and bsv ( <- substitute your bad guy flavors of bitcoin here) are just forks , why attack them anymore than attacking eth/ltc/whatever. just because they tried to claim the btc name and vision? so what. they would fail anyway as soon as he move the coins off the satohi wallet(s) addys and says (whatever) chain is the true one he envisioned. anything more is childless revenge. this was always an experiment that could come crashing down at any moment anyway. i always knew that and still consider it that. |
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Let us assume he [CSW] has access to original blocks in the "tulip trust" and plans to sell them. How is this not going to ruin the legitimacy of Bitcoin probably forever. Let's say he sells every last one of his millions of bitcoins and buys every last one of the BSV coins with the proceeds. Bitcoin will crash, as will all the alts. BSV will skyrocket, and then the entire world will see that the "new money system" was invented by a megalomaniac willing to ruin lives and destroy fortunes. Trust in BSV will be virtually nill. Central banks will create a competing, and equally centralized coin and the world will flock to the devil the know and away from the devil they do not know. They will be HONEST in their creation of a centralized system (let's not kid ourselves BSV with a single actor holding probably 25% of the coins after the sale of BTC and purchase of BSV, running on a network designed to centralized will be... ta da... a centralized system) and their centralized system will use good centralized databases and will have no need to provide security through POW.
this is my view also. by showing he can and will, at his slightest whim manipulate btc/bch/bsv for his own (or his masters) benefit will show the world that btc/bch/bsv are nothing more than a single, vindictive persons personal playground. alts (nothing bsc/bch related) may possibly flourish as people flock to them, but more likely all crypto will take such a hit as to never be seen seriously again for decades. you think enterprise business or institutional money will trust a looneytoons like CSW? the want safe and predicable in a currency or store of value. not a madman with the capability to toss the price around like popcorn. bsv will "follow all laws" i think he mentions too (correct me if im wrong). you know, so clawbacks, confiscation and blocking funds can be done by those countries. which countries? USA? Venezuela? UK? China? Russia? |
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When 600watt was working on the $1K party, the admission was 1 BTC. This to cover venue, consumables, security, hostesses, travel from airport, etc. Essentially, an 'all-in' price.
I might suggest that the $100K party might be similarly funded. Though one full Bitcoin seems a rather steep price.
I can only imagine what kind of debauchery/indulgence could be organized in Vegas for 100k a nose during a 1-2 day party  "Hangover" is not even close. yep. it would be tough just to survive it. im willing to try though. just need lots of medical people and a bunch of medivac choppers standing by. "WO bro down!!! get the chopper!" |
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