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June 20, 2019, 12:45:47 PM

Bleah, have to log in for that. More generic flamage?

So when will Libra turn into fractional reserve? Can we have a poll on that?

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https://twitter.com/saifedean/status/1140958788159254528

Some interesting thinking about it here.

The more that comes out about it the less likely it'll ever happen in the form they're proposing.

And a reply in there raises an interesting point. Since it'll in effect be a foreign currency or asset it'll be taxable a la BTC. Obviously that doesn't really matter in America where it'll probably remain stable enough but in other countries with weak currencies and similar tax set ups it may trigger giant tax bills if you use it.
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June 20, 2019, 12:52:26 PM


LOL, that's great. Gets right to the heart of matters.

One time I made a shitcoin, called Shitcoin 3.0 (there were already 2 other "Shitcoins" at the time).

It was a token based on the Dogecoin blockchain.

My coin logo was a long, thin turd in the shape of an "S."

But then the hosting server that was responsible for coloring the Dogecoins went down and all the shitcoins were lost... Truly a fitting end for such a coin.

Here's a select comment from my ANN thread:

Thanks for the massive pile of shit.

dev is great. I trust this coin. Is good coin. Exchange? to da moon!!!!!
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June 20, 2019, 01:15:51 PM

Shelbys observations on Libra and BTC

https://twitter.com/iamnotback/with_replies
Bleah, have to log in for that. More generic flamage?

So when will Libra turn into fractional reserve? Can we have a poll on that?

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sorry, here is a link for non twitter users.
https://archive.is/https://twitter.com/iamnotback/with_replies

i fully understand not having an account there, same with facebook etc. hate social media sites myself. i keep some accounts on various ones (with no or minimal personal info) just so i can see some of the links posted that require an account for access. i never actually post anything on any of them.

yup i feel dirty whenever i go to facebook or twitter etc.
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June 20, 2019, 01:16:41 PM



Pump Pump Puuuuuuump, gonna be quick with a Vegeta meme, we are maybe not long in his territory lets hope so!!!! Cheesy
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June 20, 2019, 01:18:42 PM

So I'm thinking this libra nonsense will get heavily regulated, the states would be insane not to. And that will then be used as an excuse to regulate crypto in general, and bitcoin especially. It might be a good time to get around to moving elsewhere for those planning to do so.
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June 20, 2019, 01:23:27 PM
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Yeah that’s pretty cool, when are you planning to get it done? Show a pic of it when you get it done.

You will see it first! I plan on this weekend

Best of luck, brother.

Don't want to ruin a party for Tattoo's lovers and its simple piece of advice. If you already finalized the BTC rocket design, then I suggest before final ink, put this on your wall for at least 3-4 months, where you can see this every day and if after a couple of months you still want this design on your body then go for it.

That's how I am going to choose a design for myself if I ever plan to get ink on my body.

Flawed, just go for it  Cool

I still don't regret any of mine Tongue

You are biased in this topic :p

Even I suggest him to hire a concept artist for a couple of 100 bucks and create a unique sketch-designs regarding BTC, not some random design from the google.

Tattoos are not good opsec.  Tattoos about BTC can be quite problematic, and disclosing them on the interwebs is exacerbates the problematic direction.  Hopefully, the vast majority of peeps are giving some mature attention to their choices in this direction, including time to consider whether their tatooing decision is good, in spite of some of the "feels good man" emotions that they might experience in the direction of such purported personalization of their meat wagons.

I think this presumes too much.

Its not that hard to get a list of rich people. They don't all hide away.

Why will bitcoin be different from the windfall of daddy's import export company millions? They will probably be quaffing champagne in the same wine bars.

I made my point, so I feel no need to lecture about it.  Do what you want, and it seems quite doubtful to me that NOT tatooing yourself has as many disadvantages as tatooing yourself, and part of the reason is op sec.  Personal choice off course.

By the way, when filthy rich fucks are amongst their fellow other filthy rich fucks, that would be an appropriate time for flaunting as much wealth as you can because your safety is not at jeopardy because the other filthy rich fucks are doing the same.

When you are walking down the street, you are not in club med or in some other location that surrounds you with other filthy rich fucks, then it is much better to at least make an appearance of attempting to fit in and to NOT make yourself any BIGGER of a target than you need to be made.  Sure, regular peeps are going to realize that you are not one of them and that you likely have more money than them, but if you don't flaunt the bullshit, then they are not going to be able determine (or even care perhaps) to know whether you have 5x more than them or 1,000x more than them.  If you flaunt wealth or other aspects about yourself (through a tattoo or other kinds of labelling), you have much less plausible deniability - and I would not want to put myself into those kinds of positions - even though other peeps are going to come to differing conclusions that might fill their lives with the kinds of drama (and attention) that they want and I would prefer to lessen in my own personal life.

Make your own choice of course.  I am not attempting to stop you or anyone else from making their own life choices about tattoos and other things like that, but I continue to personally believe that these should be thought out choices rather than spontaneous ones... and not mere rationalizations based on your having already gone down that path...  and in that regard, tattoos are more irreversible and difficult to hide as compared to other forms of flaunting your wealth, if you choose to do so from time to time.... and in that regard, I have no problem with flaunting your wealth from time to time... and also enjoying nice things... which is why many of us have accumulated a lot of bitcoins, hopefully in order to spend some of them or at least to otherwise to be able to spend our other less valuable money that we hold alongside of our bitcoin that we may not need to spend if we have managed our overall portfolios well.
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June 20, 2019, 01:35:12 PM

 Personal choice off course.

By the way,

 Roll Eyes Tongue
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It's kind of mind boggling how powerful Realized Cap is. The simplest trading strategy – buy when market cap goes below realized cap – gives you insanely good signals. Just... infrequently.

https://coinmetrics.io/charts/#assets=btc_left=realizedCap_right=marketcap_zoom=1279248879469.878,1560816000000_sameAxisComparison=true

https://twitter.com/nic__carter/status/1141420476264267777

And Hodl.
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June 20, 2019, 01:46:55 PM

Who the fuck is bitmex?

We do bitstamp in these parts.

High for 2019 at bitstamp was $9,477.70   - nearly 3 days ago.

Short and to the point. Who are you, and where is JJG???

Thursday rule....  normal its just STFU, so he's already out of line with those few worths

Get the fuck out of here with your nonsense.

Thursday is a day that peeps here strive to pay attention to me.   I did not ask for such a holiday....

Accordingly, there is no noticeable nor material impact on my actual posting because I remain the boss of my self, dip_team_twat. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


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Yeah that’s pretty cool, when are you planning to get it done? Show a pic of it when you get it done.

You will see it first! I plan on this weekend

Best of luck, brother.

Don't want to ruin a party for Tattoo's lovers and its simple piece of advice. If you already finalized the BTC rocket design, then I suggest before final ink, put this on your wall for at least 3-4 months, where you can see this every day and if after a couple of months you still want this design on your body then go for it.

That's how I am going to choose a design for myself if I ever plan to get ink on my body.

Flawed, just go for it  Cool

I still don't regret any of mine Tongue

You are biased in this topic :p

Even I suggest him to hire a concept artist for a couple of 100 bucks and create a unique sketch-designs regarding BTC, not some random design from the google.

Tattoos are not good opsec.  Tattoos about BTC can be quite problematic, and disclosing them on the interwebs is exacerbates the problematic direction.  Hopefully, the vast majority of peeps are giving some mature attention to their choices in this direction, including time to consider whether their tatooing decision is good, in spite of some of the "feels good man" emotions that they might experience in the direction of such purported personalization of their meat wagons.

I think this presumes too much.

Its not that hard to get a list of rich people. They don't all hide away.

Why will bitcoin be different from the windfall of daddy's import export company millions? They will probably be quaffing champagne in the same wine bars.

I made my point, so I feel no need to lecture about it.  Do what you want, and it seems quite doubtful to me that NOT tatooing yourself has as many disadvantages as tatooing yourself, and part of the reason is op sec.  Personal choice off course.

By the way, when filthy rich fucks are amongst their fellow other filthy rich fucks, that would be an appropriate time for flaunting as much wealth as you can because your safety is not at jeopardy because the other filthy rich fucks are doing the same.

When you are walking down the street, you are not in club med or in some other location that surrounds you with other filthy rich fucks, then it is much better to at least make an appearance of attempting to fit in and to NOT make yourself any BIGGER of a target than you need to be made.  Sure, regular peeps are going to realize that you are not one of them and that you likely have more money than them, but if you don't flaunt the bullshit, then they are not going to be able determine (or even care perhaps) to know whether you have 5x more than them or 1,000x more than them.  If you flaunt wealth or other aspects about yourself (through a tattoo or other kinds of labelling), you have much less plausible deniability - and I would not want to put myself into those kinds of positions - even though other peeps are going to come to differing conclusions that might fill their lives with the kinds of drama (and attention) that they want and I would prefer to lessen in my own personal life.

Make your own choice of course.  I am not attempting to stop you or anyone else from making their own life choices about tattoos and other things like that, but I continue to personally believe that these should be thought out choices rather than spontaneous ones... and not mere rationalizations based on your having already gone down that path...  and in that regard, tattoos are more irreversible and difficult to hide as compared to other forms of flaunting your wealth, if you choose to do so from time to time.... and in that regard, I have no problem with flaunting your wealth from time to time... and also enjoying nice things... which is why many of us have accumulated a lot of bitcoins, hopefully in order to spend some of them or at least to otherwise to be able to spend our other less valuable money that we hold alongside of our bitcoin that we may not need to spend if we have managed our overall portfolios well.

Words of wisdom, I take it you’re a man in his 50s-60s? Unfortunately millennials of today are hypnotised by social media and they are or will be our biggest users/accumulators of btc. There are few who can handle new wealth but many who can’t, dangers of a quickly acquired wealth combined with constantly seeking approval and fame amongst others is a recipe for disaster in many cases.
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FOMO is in the air. Newbies are joining the cryptocurrency space and falling prey to scammers.

Please educate your friends and family:

- Promises of profit are 100% ponzi
- Request to "recruit", "affiliate" etc are 100% pyramid schemes
- ICO/IEO are 99.99% pump-and-dump

https://twitter.com/aantonop/status/1141635745180016640

If all the twitt,s were like this, there would be less scams.
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The next 12-16 months are going to fun!


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Bitcoin is about to have its third monthly bullish MACD cross of all time. Its worked out pretty well in the past.


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I might be late on this.
What's wrong with the poll?

In your absence, a decision was made by the higher-ups that the polls should only now be for Hero members and above.



:-)

Sshhh... only four months are left for jokes of this kind on fillippone - more or less. Don't spoil it.
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@fillippone You're swimming with the heavyweights already, didn't you notice?



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I made my point, so I feel no need to lecture about it.  Do what you want, and it seems quite doubtful to me that NOT tatooing yourself has as many disadvantages as tatooing yourself, and part of the reason is op sec.  Personal choice off course.

By the way, when filthy rich fucks are amongst their fellow other filthy rich fucks, that would be an appropriate time for flaunting as much wealth as you can because your safety is not at jeopardy because the other filthy rich fucks are doing the same.

When you are walking down the street, you are not in club med or in some other location that surrounds you with other filthy rich fucks, then it is much better to at least make an appearance of attempting to fit in and to NOT make yourself any BIGGER of a target than you need to be made.  Sure, regular peeps are going to realize that you are not one of them and that you likely have more money than them, but if you don't flaunt the bullshit, then they are not going to be able determine (or even care perhaps) to know whether you have 5x more than them or 1,000x more than them.  If you flaunt wealth or other aspects about yourself (through a tattoo or other kinds of labelling), you have much less plausible deniability - and I would not want to put myself into those kinds of positions - even though other peeps are going to come to differing conclusions that might fill their lives with the kinds of drama (and attention) that they want and I would prefer to lessen in my own personal life.

Make your own choice of course.  I am not attempting to stop you or anyone else from making their own life choices about tattoos and other things like that, but I continue to personally believe that these should be thought out choices rather than spontaneous ones... and not mere rationalizations based on your having already gone down that path...  and in that regard, tattoos are more irreversible and difficult to hide as compared to other forms of flaunting your wealth, if you choose to do so from time to time.... and in that regard, I have no problem with flaunting your wealth from time to time... and also enjoying nice things... which is why many of us have accumulated a lot of bitcoins, hopefully in order to spend some of them or at least to otherwise to be able to spend our other less valuable money that we hold alongside of our bitcoin that we may not need to spend if we have managed our overall portfolios well.

Merited.

This is good advice, and we should all take opsec very seriously, or we risk getting our precious BTC wrenched out of us and into the wallets of thieves. A while back, a Turkish guy had posted on Facebook that he owned 400+ BTC. Notice the past tense "owned"... He was kidnapped, tortured, and his BTC taken from him.

Tattooing BTC on an exposed part of your body is like inviting criminals to do the above to you. Just be extra careful and never openly boast about your stash, especially to people you don't know well. If someone asks, just say you're into the technology and want to be part of the revolution, but never that you own a good amount of corn.
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Strong optical illusion. All the balls you see in this image are brown.

Enjoy. Tongue

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Strong optical illusion. All the balls you see in this image are brown.

Enjoy. Tongue



Nice, although easily explained. Our eyes are mixing brown with R (red), G (green) and B (blue) stripes, giving the balls the corresponding tint. The further away you more (or the smaller the picture), the more pronounced the mixing effect, as the eyes cannot resolve the details. I wouldn't call it an illusion, just spatial filtering, similar to the way RGB screens or Bayer sensors work.
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Strong optical illusion. All the balls you see in this image are brown.

Enjoy. Tongue



Different color stripes?

Yeah, each ball has different color stripes, don't know if that's the trick?
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So I'm thinking this libra nonsense will get heavily regulated, the states would be insane not to. And that will then be used as an excuse to regulate crypto in general, and bitcoin especially. It might be a good time to get around to moving elsewhere for those planning to do so.

Facebook has the money, clout, and kompromat to bulldoze through regulation.
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