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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 03, 2018, 03:10:04 AM
He's still crying?  

Jesus.    Roll Eyes

If you bought a Z9, we'll see who's crying when all is said and done.  I know you're about to Unignore me to read this response.  If you're smart, you'll look at my previous post.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 03, 2018, 02:45:27 AM
Looks like the Z9 (Non-mini) will be about 30-40 KH/s or so.

According to the Bitmain tweet

https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/1002814753469706245

So basically equivalent to about ~133 Radeon R9 280X.

Looks like the Nvidia people are going to be upset also.

But you know what, I know what I'm getting with the mini..  One is less noise!!  So my 3 mini's will do the same as 1 Z9. 

So, is this your way of trying to show "support" for your decision to compete against BITMAIN instead of taking the red pill and admit BITMAIN is a plague to crypto?  When more than half of the Equihash coins have forked away from BITMAIN, all of you with the mini will be left to compete against BITMAIN and their Z9's over the remaining Equihash coin(s) that did not fork.  Good luck with that.
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 03, 2018, 02:32:17 AM
How about the Chinese version of YOUR COMPETITION with the translation below it Huh. I assure you, THEY LIED TO ZOOKO ABOUT PRIVATE/SECRET MINING ZEC AND OTHER EQUIHASH COINS, JUST AS THEY WILL "NOT" BE TRANSPARENT WITH YOU HOME MINERS.  YOU'RE ONLY "USEFUL IDIOTS" IN THEIR MIND.



264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 03, 2018, 02:29:34 AM
Looks like the Z9 (Non-mini) will be about 30-40 KH/s or so.

According to the Bitmain tweet

https://twitter.com/JihanWu/status/1002814753469706245

So basically equivalent to about ~133 Radeon R9 280X.

Looks like the Nvidia people are going to be upset also.

As I've been telling everyone here, "YOU will be competing against BITMAIN and their Z9 "BEAST" [Which they simply call, "Z9" and NOT "mini"]; "NOT" GPU's."  Everyone of you who purchase the mini will be in for a rude awakening.  But your greed clouds your judgement.  Most have to learn the hard way like I did.  Learn what?  That BITMAIN is a plague to crypto currency.  They are liars about not having mined ZEC privately/secretly WITH THE Z9 (not "mini").  They are even mining with mini's others of you bought for August/September delivery before actually shipping them off to you.

265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Lets Share Ideas of Ways to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: June 02, 2018, 03:30:05 AM
You deserve a medal.  I am very impressed.  I have been toying with the idea of taking some of my crypto and cashing it in to buy a shed, cover it in solar panels and then cram as much hardware inside it that the panels can handle and then adding from there, using my crypto profits of course.  Kind of like any RTS game where you have to gather resources and upgrade your units....

Thanks for the kind words.

I would love to have solar panels to supplement power from the grid.  However, solar is still a bit expensive.  The batteries needed to power the rigs during the evening would have to be very high amp hours as well.  Led acid batteries should not be depleted more than 50% to avoid limiting their lifespan.  That's why I like Lithium Ion batteries.  

Lithium Ion batteries can be recharged more times than led acid.  They can be depleted down to around 5 or 10 percent every time before recharging without affecting their lifespan.  They also charge much faster than led acid.  Given the limited amount of light we have in the Southeast United States [Compared to the West side], it would behove one investing in solar for mining to buy lithium ion batteries.  However, they are VERY expensive.

One would also need panels with a minimum rating of 300 watts each on a small shed to obtain as many watts per square foot as possible.  300 watt panels are not cheap either.  I would love to have 75,000 watts of solar panels with sufficient amount of amp hours in Lithium Ion batteries to run my set up.  However, it would require 250 x 300 watt solar panels at a minimum to power them.  At $250 each 300 watt panel, that would be $62,500 worth of panels.

If I wanted to run 75,000 watts an hour for the 11 hours the sun is down before recharging batteries again, I would need a LOT of batteries.  75,000 watts per hour x 11 hours = 825,000 watt hours.   825,000 watts divided by 12 volts = 68,750 amp hours.  If I had 12 volt Lithium Ion batteries at 700 amp hours per battery [Depleted to 10% would be 630 amp hours each battery], I would require 110 batteries.  Lithium Ion batteries with 700 amp hours per battery is approximately $5,000 per battery.  In bulk, I could probably get them at $4,000 each x 110 batteries = $440,000.  Total setup of panels and batteries with wiring, charge controller, etc... would easily cost around $550,000.

My estimate above could be off a bit.  I just know it would be quite expensive.  I can't imagine the space I would need for 250 solar panels.  What's worse is I "KNOW" I would require more panels than what I estimated.  Cause I would only have about 6 hours of peak sun light.  Maybe 8 hours total if you add in the off peak.  Also, I would need those 250 panels to power the 75,000 watts of rigs during the day WITH ADDITIONAL PANELS to charge the batteries for mining during the evening time.  Which means I would need more than double the panels that I mentioned if I wanted to mine 24/7/365.  So, the cost to run 24/7/365 would actually be double my estimate at $1,100,000.

The above estimate is assuming I was mining from 100% solar and no power grid.

75k watts per hour x 730 hours in a month = 54,750k watt hours x $0.10 cents per kWh = $5,475 a month if on the grid.

$1,100,000 for solar set up divided by $5,475 per month of grid power at $0.10 cents per kWh = 201 months divided by 12 months = 16.75 years to pay off.

I'm sure philipma1957 would know much more about solar than I do because he's currently mining with solar.  Consider mine a rough estimate from little experience.
266  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Lets Share Ideas of Ways to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: June 02, 2018, 02:53:05 AM
With the time you spend advocating against ZEC and their stand on ASICs while supporting miners and GPUs, i am amazed at how you can still be this efficient and be able to develop mining rigs and setups as complicated as these. More power to you. Your images and screenshots are always and inspiration for us to continue working hard and do our best in what everything we do.

Thanks for the motivation to continue.

Cheers Mate,

Smiley
267  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: June 02, 2018, 02:17:55 AM
there's no way zcash keeps it's current value right? As has already been mentioned, there will be more zcash coming into the wild which will probably bring the value down a little bit.

Bitmain, is a multi-billion dollar company.  They hold the majority of ZEC mined daily.  They have the capital to manipulate markets to their advantage.  It would be in their best interest to pump and dump.

Watch this:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=196&v=vNg5yxlvvng
268  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 02, 2018, 01:58:11 AM
That Daira is one handsome lady.

LOL!  Best laugh yet today from bitcointalk!

 Hahaha, best laugh in 2018.

Both of you sound like bullies in a kids playground.  Grow up!
I bet you’re a lot of fun at parties.

I bet you're an asshole at yours.
269  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 02, 2018, 01:53:47 AM
That Daira is one handsome lady.

LOL!  Best laugh yet today from bitcointalk!

 Hahaha, best laugh in 2018.

Both of you sound like bullies in a kids playground.  Grow up!
270  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 02, 2018, 01:29:29 AM
Here's a video of mining ZEC at AntPool for quite some time.  I want you to see what you're about to COMPETE against.  You'll see, "It's NO CONTEST."  Also, the Z9 "Mini" was named "Mini" for a reason.  You're about to compete with Z9 "Beast."  Of course, you're not going to hear about "Beast."  You're not privy to the "Beast."  But I do have common sense.  

Bitmain does have a larger version of the Z9 and have probably mined with it for quite a while now.  They decided to make "Mini" to have it in a price range available to more potential buyers.  If they revealed "The Beast," at 30k sol's or higher, not many of you could afford what they would ask for it.  Hence, Z9 "MINI."

Link Here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=196&v=vNg5yxlvvng
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 02, 2018, 01:08:24 AM
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Potential Equihash Algorithm Change Preparation

Modifying ZenCash to use Equihash-144-5 is doable, and the software development team has started identifying the specific work that would need to be done in order to create and test this change. It would be a Hard Fork change, and for optimal success of the Hard Fork, it would be best to implement such a proposed change as quickly as reasonably possible before too many ASIC miners take over the hashrate of ZenCash.

...right. And nothing in what you just posted says they will or will not fork, just that they are leaning towards it. There's been no decision made yet.

You can keep taking your hopium all you want.  I've seen Rob post too much saying there WILL be a fork.  They're simply not rushing into it.  However, it will be done "as quickly as reasonably possible."



is zencash change for put-off the new asics?
when fork in algorithm will happen?
ZenCash Statement On Potential Equihash Algorithm Change



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The current potential threat to decentralization posed by a single company producing an ASIC miner is something that the community feels very strongly about.  The ZenCash development team will work through the process to create a Hard Fork upgrade to the Equihash algorithm in the short term to address the threat.

https://blog.zencash.com/zencash-statement-on-potential-equihash-algorithm-change/?utm_source=blog&utm_medium=social&utm_content=mining&utm_campaign=re+bitmain

Check reaction of community  Smiley
https://www.reddit.com/r/ZenSys/comments/8i9xgr/zencash_statement_on_potential_equihash_algorithm/



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We value decentralization and our GPU miners who are an integral part of the community!  Changing algorithms is an extremely complex activity and we are not going to rush into a decision that may compromise the safety or integrity of the Zen network. It’s important that we take time to conduct research and evaluate options to properly formulate a plan.

https://blog.zencash.com/mining-decentralization/


ZenCash Mandatory Software Upgrade & Staking Date Change


https://blog.zencash.com/mandatory-software-upgrade-timeline/
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 01, 2018, 11:53:59 PM
Have a look at this comment from Daira (Developer for ZCash):



Those of you who will not receive your Z9 until August might begin sweating profusely in the near future.
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 01, 2018, 11:44:50 PM
I have heard Zencash may not fork, but I know BTG will, which is why I'm bummed I'm not mining it right now while I can.

Please do your research before stating a "rumor."


What "rumor"? Everything I've read says they haven't decided yet.

EDIT TO ADD: here's a good summary list for Z9 owners (note that it is not maintained by a dev, just a user):

https://www.reddit.com/r/zec/comments/8h14ms/equihash_antiasic_fork_every_equihash_coin_and/

You are NOT reading comments.  The statement was about ZEN Cash.  NOT ZCash.

I'll quote Z E N "Co-Founder" once again:

Can anyone pls comment on official ZEN statement on ASICs and changing algo to ASICs resistant, but in a short quick way.
whats the TLDR version?

Thanks.
Potential Equihash Algorithm Change Preparation

Modifying ZenCash to use Equihash-144-5 is doable, and the software development team has started identifying the specific work that would need to be done in order to create and test this change. It would be a Hard Fork change, and for optimal success of the Hard Fork, it would be best to implement such a proposed change as quickly as reasonably possible before too many ASIC miners take over the hashrate of ZenCash.
274  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 01, 2018, 11:41:55 PM
Hey, GPU v ASIC keyboard warriors, give it a rest. Why spoil a product thread?

This is NOT a product thread.  This simply said the Z9 Equihash miner has launched.  That's it.  Does not say one bit about it being solely for technical discussion.  The title implies it's a discussion about "launching" of the Z9.  That's it...
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 01, 2018, 11:37:18 PM
You know, you're always bitching about Bitmain.  But yet GPU mining farms are buying cards by the 747 full.  Give AMD and NVidia their best profits ever.  The manufactures just card about making money, any way they can.

ONE FARM did that dude.  Not "s" (plural).  One damn farm.   ROFL...
276  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain launches the Z9 Equihash miner on: June 01, 2018, 03:13:19 PM
Nah, I like the sheer entertainment value!!  I want my Z9's!!!  Come on Bitmain, start shipping!!!


ROFL...  As you know, no disrespect intended.  No "personal" attack intended.  I simply see the Z9 as a risk I'm not willing to take.  

I have yet to see an ASIC I'm willing to risk investing in since I sold my S7's.  My GPU's proved to be more profitable than ASIC.  More importantly, I'm all about "decentralized" mining; which is still dominated by Bitmain.  Might as well call it BITMAIN mining instead of ASIC mining.

277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Lets Share Ideas of Ways to Manage Heat From Mining in a Home or Warehouse on: June 01, 2018, 03:03:23 PM
The following is a YouTube video of a mining shed someone built with Industrial Metal Grate on the floor to allow cool air to be sucked up onto the rigs by the fans in the wall behind the rigs.  My only criticism about the design of his shed is he probably needed a larger shed.  Why?  The exhaust for the GPU's are currently facing where the cool air comes up from the grate on the floor.  I believe his rigs would run cooler if he turned the GPU's around for the heat exhaust from the GPU's to face the fans in the wall and exit straight out the fans.

Here's the link:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bzhg0OhwZpg
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: June 01, 2018, 02:06:13 PM
Seeing how ZCash Company and ZCash Foundation are not ACTIVE PARTICIPANTS in this forum, I'll make it a point to post comments they make in forums where they are active:

279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: June 01, 2018, 01:55:18 PM
Excellent response to Sonya of ZCash Company:

280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on Zcash? on: June 01, 2018, 01:49:19 PM
And another excellent post by a GPU miner GETS HIDDEN by a PRO-ASIC moderator on ZCash Forum.  It will be deleted within 24 hours.

Link here:  https://forum.z.cash/t/whats-more-important-to-you-sapling-or-asic-fork/28672/60

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