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261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 19, 2017, 09:46:01 PM
Nothing in that post mentioned GAW or xpy korvas.

But this thing is still connected. The only qualification anyone involved in this seems to have is that they were ripped off by garza and/or gaw, or that they were stupid enough to believe that garza/gaw/target/or anyone would buy xpy for $20 per coin, when that never made a lick of sense. And they also "took over" xpy after garza walked away

This thing started with an exchange of xpy, before an exchange of anything else, and a broken promise to burn those xpy. I don't recall a promise to burn any other funds received in the ico, or mention of that with any of the other coins they will accept in exchange for the premine now. So it is disingenuous to try and put the ion-xpy relationship on the same level as the ion-any other coin relationship, especially since the xpy-ion exchange was a limited time offer that is no longer available, unlike the other coins you mentioned.

Suchmoon's footnote is the link

GAWSOME class action
(Homero Garza throws Stuart Fraser under the bus)
ION: XPY successor. This links into a thread called [ION] [IONOMY] Worthy successor to XPY - 100% premined - Garza would be proud

The ONLY connection with XPY is that some of the people at ION tried to save XPY and IONOMY offered a transition plan for their XPY customers to convert to ION.

The beauty of hindsight  Smiley You choose to forget who was plugging XPY. It was GAW miners which at that time when compared to other companies... KNC, Cointerra, etc was a large successful mining operation. What's disingenuous is people like you trying to associate ION with Garza when their only crime was to try to save XPY which if successful would have gone some way to help the people Garza had screwed over.

Gaw miners was never good compared to KNC/cointerra/etc. Their business model made just as little sense as those companies did. Matlack and mr coins spouted nonsense that got people to lose money to garza, and now are spouting nonsense to get people to lose money to matlack.

Luckily, like last time, there aren't too many people falling for the bullshit.
262  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 19, 2017, 07:35:55 PM
Besides exchanging xpy for ion, they also exchanged xpybits for atoms.

Sure you guys want to claim no connection again?
263  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 19, 2017, 07:17:00 PM
Nothing in that post mentioned GAW or xpy korvas.

But this thing is still connected. The only qualification anyone involved in this seems to have is that they were ripped off by garza and/or gaw, or that they were stupid enough to believe that garza/gaw/target/or anyone would buy xpy for $20 per coin, when that never made a lick of sense. And they also "took over" xpy after garza walked away

This thing started with an exchange of xpy, before an exchange of anything else, and a broken promise to burn those xpy. I don't recall a promise to burn any other funds received in the ico, or mention of that with any of the other coins they will accept in exchange for the premine now. So it is disingenuous to try and put the ion-xpy relationship on the same level as the ion-any other coin relationship, especially since the xpy-ion exchange was a limited time offer that is no longer available, unlike the other coins you mentioned.
264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 19, 2017, 04:26:42 AM
I'm glad to move onto the next phase. this chapter was getting boring.

I got caught up in the euphoria I am participating in this month's investor competition on ionomy.com. There will be a fun giveaway at the end of the month that I think will be fun for the whole family.

I always do enjoy this part of these movies. The unexpected end of a chapter, then stumbling into the next one even though everything was ready except for one thing that wasn't their fault. Then the bagholders not freaking out about it.
265  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | POS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 18, 2017, 08:42:46 PM
It's been so long that I forget. Why are we waiting for bittrex before releasing the game?

Wouldn't it be better to funnel all of these people to the wonderful ionomy website to they can also participate in fun and games like atoms and electrons and stakers and other assorted bullshit? Doesn't eeryone get richer that way?
266  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Basketball Betting System on: February 16, 2017, 12:05:59 PM
Please stop before you lose $100, or 1 btc, or whatever you are actually betting.

Basic math says this is a bad idea. If you are good at sports betting, just adjust your bets appropriately based on your confidence. If you are bad, it will take you a lot longer to lose $100 with $1 bets than with martingale.
It's just an experiment, probably $100 is something that he can afford to lose, sports betting is a good place to martingale because games are predictable and as you go along you learn new technique based on your experience. I am actually watching this thread and I support what OP is doing.

He is sharing his experience at his expense, but I think he can recover and be able to get to his goal.

Sports betting is a terrible place for martingale because it doesn't let you take advantage of bad lines, which is how you make money in all betting.
267  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Basketball Betting System on: February 16, 2017, 02:48:33 AM
Please stop before you lose $100, or 1 btc, or whatever you are actually betting.

Basic math says this is a bad idea. If you are good at sports betting, just adjust your bets appropriately based on your confidence. If you are bad, it will take you a lot longer to lose $100 with $1 bets than with martingale.
268  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Basketball Betting System on: February 15, 2017, 02:14:45 PM
I think the martingale system could not be applied in sportsbetting I've tried and I am confused what to do if I'm using the martingale system on one game then not produce profits if I'm using it on a different game then it is not a martingale system, better use this system on a dice gambling

martingale does not work on bets with a negative expected value.

All bets on a dice site have a negative expected value, so it won't work there.

If you think it will work on sport betting, your sports bets have a negative expected value, so it won't work there.
269  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Basketball Betting System on: February 15, 2017, 05:30:31 AM
Martingale is really really popular with dice games and I think it will not be a good strategy in Sports Betting. In dice games you will know the results every after-clicks and that is really fast. In sports game you first watch the game and then bet again after that and i think thay is a long process.
It is, dice is a different game compared to sports betting, in dice, the previous result will not be the bases for the next result as it is literally base on random basis. There are some people who have a great success in sports betting, that is because they can predict games with the information they analyze, and with that, it will be more effective if you use martingale method.

Your explanation for why it will work doesn't actually make sense.

When you use the martingale system, you bet more when you are on a losing streak to make up what you have lost before.

Competent sports bettors bet more when they are more sure of winning a bet. If you really feel strongly about a game tomorrow, why should today's result cause you to bet more or less on that game?
270  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Martingale Basketball Betting System on: February 15, 2017, 05:27:12 AM
What are those chart mean? is it a chart where you are betting and the high fluctuate is a bet when you are lost in the previous bet and if you win you  will bet again for the normal bet?
I hope that you can also add a list of your bet and modify the first page so that we can see all of your bet is lose or win..
That should be the amount of bankroll which is equivalent to $100. The way I read the graph, he is not in profit as of the last update but not down so big. I guess this method will be good in the long run, as overtime if the OP is making a good analysis on the team, he will likely to win.

Once, I see this is going to be successful, maybe I will try this also for long term sports betting.

It will not be good in the long run.

When he wins 8 in a row, he will win like 8 bucks, when he loses 8 in a row, he will lose all his money. Just like every other person that has done this stupid system.
271  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 14, 2017, 08:24:43 PM
Interestingly, it seems that there's a pre-existing (and as yet unresolved) error in the transfercoin code they've used, causing -- yes, you guessed it -- further hold ups.



So... uhmmm... we will fix it in the next 24 hours but we don't really know what the problem is but it's a known flaw from txcoin but they never solved it but we will solve it in 24 hours.

And that was 2+ days ago. Is ION on Bittrex yet?

there is a pinned post in the general slack from 16 hours ago that says "we will be contacting bittrex for code review within the next 48 hours" so we have 32 hours until they make contact with bitrex to find out why they aren't going to list it this time.

I'll admit that I'm somewhat confused as to why it presumably actually hinges on Bittrex approving the code when they've been continually presenting it as Bittrex gagging for it and simply waiting for the ion team to set a date. I suppose massaging the truth of the situation is par for the course when you're nearly a year into a project and miserably late delivering your main product.

It also seems that they're now having problems with masternodes shutting down in the new wallet release.

bittrex is the excuse of at least the last 6 weeks of delays.

Before christmas, the apple app store approval process taking a break for Christmas was the delay. After Christmas bitrex "noticed" a problem that needed to be fixed before being approved. Somehow that fix took at least 6 weeks to fix and put the "plan" a year ahead of schedule, even though there are still no games.

Now after several broken fixes they are going to contact bitrex at some point tomorrow.

And people wonder why I have been questioning how competent the team is from day 1.
272  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 14, 2017, 06:39:24 PM
Interestingly, it seems that there's a pre-existing (and as yet unresolved) error in the transfercoin code they've used, causing -- yes, you guessed it -- further hold ups.



So... uhmmm... we will fix it in the next 24 hours but we don't really know what the problem is but it's a known flaw from txcoin but they never solved it but we will solve it in 24 hours.

And that was 2+ days ago. Is ION on Bittrex yet?

there is a pinned post in the general slack from 16 hours ago that says "we will be contacting bittrex for code review within the next 48 hours" so we have 32 hours until they make contact with bitrex to find out why they aren't going to list it this time.
273  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] IONX | PoS 4.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 13, 2017, 09:19:34 PM
New #ion wallet update! Update at your clients as soon as possible.
http://github.com/ionomy/ion/releases/tag/v1.2.4

What use does the coin have?



IONX now leaving the station...

Team Ionomy Welcomes You and Thanks You for being patient!!!


Ballsy to start at ionx sharkie. What are you going to call it when this fails and then IONY and IONZ fail? Go back to numbers?

I guess by then ion 2.0 tournament edition will be exciting
274  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 10, 2017, 12:44:49 AM
I hope the geniuses behind the gawsuit got paid to drop ganza, because I'm not sure how they'll be able to pin anything on Fraser if Ganza is unable to answer the SEC case. how can he put anything on fraser in this case if he can't even file a response to another case?

Exactly.

Plaintiffs made their well-documented Deal with the Devil.

Lesser Muggles will get nothing.

Pretty sure that's why GAWSUIT started to collect fees from Muggles, then decided not to.

Now they legally owe nothing to anyone.

Morally & Ethically.....can go to hell!

Due to the extreme amount of stupidity shown by everyone involved, I wouldn't put it past these geniuses to not get any money up front, and believe the guy who conned them that they would be able to get money out of Fraser this way.
275  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 09, 2017, 07:56:50 PM
they have been dumping the premine off market via stakers, electrons, boosts, hashlets, whatever.

At least with xpy there was something in the coin that made the coins given out in the stakers.

Bittrex probably won't do much, but if anything maybe some people will wake up and get out when listing on another exchange doesn't pump up the price like they are hoping.
276  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: February 09, 2017, 07:29:50 PM
I hope the geniuses behind the gawsuit got paid to drop ganza, because I'm not sure how they'll be able to pin anything on Fraser if Ganza is unable to answer the SEC case. how can he put anything on fraser in this case if he can't even file a response to another case?
277  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 08, 2017, 12:42:42 PM
ION is taking upwards of 9 hours to transfer coins and a member then pointed out that BTC takes days to confirm. What fucking cool aid are these idiots drinking? Right now ION is waaaaaay slower than BTC. These fools will say any lie to make ION seem better than BTC. This joke of a project should be shit down asap.

LOL...bitcoin transactions now take days to confirm according to the ION fools.

They are incapable of not telling lies to make their "coin" look good.

It's especially stupid because the reasons for slow BTC transactions (full blocks) and the way to fix it (higher fees snd/or bigger blocks) are known. While ion blocks appear to be moving but transactions are not.
278  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION 2.0 [ION] | PoS 4.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 06, 2017, 07:00:39 AM


I guess that we need to add the word "working" to the list of words that we need a special ION - English dictionary to understand what exactly is going on here.
279  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ION [ION] | ICO LIVE | PoS 3.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 05, 2017, 08:32:21 PM
hopefully they are smart enough to not release a ridiculously hopeful early deadline like this time for whatever name they come up with for the next magical fix.

They said it would be possible to do the rebase on January 22, on Feb 5 there isn't a working windows wallet.
280  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: e: [ANN] ION 2.0 [ION] | PoS 4.0 | Mobile Gaming | Join the ionomy today! on: February 03, 2017, 12:41:47 AM
shark, weren't you the person who said yobit was working again?

I noticed that Yobit wallet was not under maintenance anymore and tried to get WildShark to explain if there are any reasons as to why it shouldn't be used, as he claimed that only 1 exchange is available but posted screenshots from both.

I also doubted that ionomy warned Yobit about the rebase, and it looks like they tried to but didn't get a response so Yobit is now likely irreparably fucked. If they are on the old chain and accept deposits then it's going to very difficult if at all possible for them to reconcile balances if they do the rebase. This clusterfuck would explain the -90% dump that occurred earlier.

Meanwhile ionomy.com is having a "balance issue" too. Looks like 0 exchanges at the moment unless Sharkie wants to tell us otherwise.

from reading the slack it looks like they have been trying to contact yobit for the last 48 hours but had no luck. Wonder why they weren't given instructions/made contact when they thought all of this was going to go down a week ago?

Edit: Also, in the least shocking news of this entire saga, the qt wallets aren't out even though it is well after 1900 gmt. Starting the rebase just to do it while they weren't ready, a constant theme for how these geniuses work
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