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yeah I'm wondering if the clue might be the double sealed extensions over the past 6 months is where the AG is at. I imagine Uncle Stu's lawyers would have had a field day pointing to a criminal investigation against Homero and not Uncle Stu, had it been ongoing for a long time, unless of course they are after him too. I think on this front all we can wait for his a picture in the paper of a handcuffed Homero being escorted up a long flight of concrete steps. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I just don't know how long it can still take. They pretty much got everything they ever need in the research and evidence that the SEC already dug up plus whatever snippets they can glean from Shinner's own investigations. Would still be quiet surprised if the AG only kicked into gear in say 2016. Why so long and what exactly set them off. Too much time has passed, witness memories faded, evidence long lost etc etc.
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February 08, 2017, 07:56:28 PM |
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It's still weird that the whole response to the SEC case was "I'm pleading the 5th". You'd think the Wall Street superstar lawyers could have found a way to reject at least some of the allegations without self-incrimination. The nice thing about pleading the 5th in a civil case is that this fact itself can be used against Garza. In other words the SEC can say "Garza pleading the 5th means he's guilty AF" (albeit in a more lawyerish language perhaps). However all this might not mean much since Ms. Shields is basically admitting that the SEC doesn't expect to recover any significant assets. Homero is likely giving up on the SEC case, has weaseled out of the class action, and is probably hoping for a lenient outcome in the criminal investigation. Well, at least we're getting some movement in this saga. Long overdue. Good what about criminal?
Sadly we gotta wait for a court case (if any) to find out the details.
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February 08, 2017, 09:14:02 PM |
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It's still weird that the whole response to the SEC case was "I'm pleading the 5th". You'd think the Wall Street superstar lawyers could have found a way to reject at least some of the allegations without self-incrimination. The nice thing about pleading the 5th in a civil case is that this fact itself can be used against Garza. In other words the SEC can say "Garza pleading the 5th means he's guilty AF" (albeit in a more lawyerish language perhaps). However all this might not mean much since Ms. Shields is basically admitting that the SEC doesn't expect to recover any significant assets. Homero is likely giving up on the SEC case, has weaseled out of the class action, and is probably hoping for a lenient outcome in the criminal investigation. Well, at least we're getting some movement in this saga. Long overdue. Good what about criminal?
Sadly we gotta wait for a court case (if any) to find out the details. I had my final bankruptcy hearing today. I've had some financial problems unrelated to this, but getting my $1500 would be nice. I asked my attorney if he had ever heard of a SEC fraud case being delayed and that delay being confidential. He listed off a number of things that could be confidential, didn't write them down, but none of them made sense in this case. I wonder if anyone has a list of those things that is more knowledgeable?
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Just doing some research on the CT's criminal division handling the Homero investigation: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/criminal-divisionThe Financial Fraud and Public Corruption Unit includes securities, commodities and investor fraud, public corruption, bank fraud and embezzlement, mortgage fraud, tax fraud, health care fraud, bankruptcy fraud and Foreign Corrupt Practices Act violations. David E. Novick is the Chief of the Unit, and Michael S. McGarry and Sarah P. Karwan are the Deputy Chiefs. This Unit includes the Connecticut Public Corruption Task Force and the Connecticut Securities Fraud Task Force. And a recent success. Phew.... ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) a mere $700,000 = 4 years in the big house! How about 10 million dollars then https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/former-greenwich-resident-who-stole-more-700k-fraud-scheme-sentenced-4-years-federalMore importantly time frame is similar circa 2014 to 2017, got to think they are hot on Homero's heels.
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I hope the geniuses behind the gawsuit got paid to drop ganza, because I'm not sure how they'll be able to pin anything on Fraser if Ganza is unable to answer the SEC case. how can he put anything on fraser in this case if he can't even file a response to another case?
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Jump you fuckers! | The thing about smart motherfuckers is they sound like crazy motherfuckers to dumb motherfuckers. | My sig space for rent for 0.01 btc per week.
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February 10, 2017, 12:44:49 AM |
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I hope the geniuses behind the gawsuit got paid to drop ganza, because I'm not sure how they'll be able to pin anything on Fraser if Ganza is unable to answer the SEC case. how can he put anything on fraser in this case if he can't even file a response to another case?
Exactly. Plaintiffs made their well-documented Deal with the Devil. Lesser Muggles will get nothing. Pretty sure that's why GAWSUIT started to collect fees from Muggles, then decided not to. Now they legally owe nothing to anyone. Morally & Ethically.....can go to hell! Due to the extreme amount of stupidity shown by everyone involved, I wouldn't put it past these geniuses to not get any money up front, and believe the guy who conned them that they would be able to get money out of Fraser this way.
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February 10, 2017, 06:53:17 PM |
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Just doing some research on the CT's criminal division handling the Homero investigation: https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/criminal-divisionThe Financial Fraud and Public Corruption Unit includes securities, commodities and investor fraud, public corruption, bank fraud and embezzlement, mortgage fraud, tax fraud, health care fraud, bankruptcy fraud and Foreign Corrupt Practices Act violations. David E. Novick is the Chief of the Unit, and Michael S. McGarry and Sarah P. Karwan are the Deputy Chiefs. This Unit includes the Connecticut Public Corruption Task Force and the Connecticut Securities Fraud Task Force. And a recent success. Phew.... ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) a mere $700,000 = 4 years in the big house! How about 10 million dollars then https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/former-greenwich-resident-who-stole-more-700k-fraud-scheme-sentenced-4-years-federalMore importantly time frame is similar circa 2014 to 2017, got to think they are hot on Homero's heels. Outstanding, @maildir! securities fraud ✔ commodities fraud ✔ investor fraud ✔ public corruption ✔ bank fraud and embezzlement ✔ tax fraud ✔ and Foreign Corrupt Practices Act violations ✔ <--- My personal favorite: remember the un-bankable Rishab?
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NICE! The Dindu Defense!! ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlcD66q1.png&t=665&c=_oMkPuHNE5CQhw)
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The Dindu Defense!!
You owe me a new monitor. If we obtain the judgment we have requested, we will attempt to execute on that judgment and find assets that still belong to the companies to distribute to the investors. At the moment, we are not aware of substantial assets to return.
Nice personal reply, good work. Maybe you could mention to her that she could reach out to the community here for help in tracing blockchain-based transactions, with a mind to potentially uncovering funds Homero may have stashed away.
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February 11, 2017, 11:48:36 AM Last edit: February 11, 2017, 02:20:33 PM by truckinusa |
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The Dindu Defense!!
You owe me a new monitor. If we obtain the judgment we have requested, we will attempt to execute on that judgment and find assets that still belong to the companies to distribute to the investors. At the moment, we are not aware of substantial assets to return.
Nice personal reply, good work. Maybe you could mention to her that she could reach out to the community here for help in tracing blockchain-based transactions, with a mind to potentially uncovering funds Homero may have stashed away. Are there hidden funds in the blockchain? Shinners alluded to there being hidden money but I have never seen any evidence presented here. The only thing we know about was the brattleboro home. That was sold Feb 9 2016 for $286,600 with about a $100,000 profit. Where is that money? Maybe it was in Carlos's name? Haven't heard much about the real estate. Wonder what Carlos has been up to too?
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#EPIC!Can we get them in Vanilla? Garza, Garza, (pink & blue,) Mordica, Dorman & Matlack?
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The Dindu Defense!!
You owe me a new monitor. If we obtain the judgment we have requested, we will attempt to execute on that judgment and find assets that still belong to the companies to distribute to the investors. At the moment, we are not aware of substantial assets to return.
Nice personal reply, good work. Maybe you could mention to her that she could reach out to the community here for help in tracing blockchain-based transactions, with a mind to potentially uncovering funds Homero may have stashed away. Are there hidden funds in the blockchain? Shinners alluded to there being hidden money but I have never seen any evidence presented here. The only thing we know about was the brattleboro home. That was sold Feb 9 2016 for $286,600 with about a $100,000 profit. Where is that money? Maybe it was in Carlos's name? Haven't heard much about the real estate. Wonder what Carlos has been up to too? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.arstechnica.net%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F08%2F11703031_10204611455069046_3189148817369517791_n.jpg&t=665&c=x5kg_XCsmcpo3A) still drinking bud lime in the skinny tinny, no doubt
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@sirazimuth owes me a new monitor!
Had to reply just to wipe that image off my screen.
We should either deport the Garzas or build a wall around them.
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@sirazimuth owes me a new monitor!
Had to reply just to wipe that image off my screen.
We should either deport the Garzas or build a wall around them.
deport them to great britain. everyone there has shit for brains anyway.
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@sirazimuth owes me a new monitor!
Had to reply just to wipe that image off my screen.
We should either deport the Garzas or build a wall around them.
deport them to great britain. everyone there has shit for brains anyway. Well Australia used to be the prison colony Yeah thats not going to happen, USED to be is apt. If he came ro Australia rest assured I can get people to track him down and break his little toe.
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deport them to great britain. everyone there has shit for brains anyway.
everyone there has shit for brains,huh? so i guess you'd fit right in then , eh there Mr http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Kermy cum shot?
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@sirazimuth owes me a new monitor!
Had to reply just to wipe that image off my screen.
sorry bout that... here ya go... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVe109wi.jpg&t=665&c=ZYxdDpjf4qps-w)
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Got My Response
....... If we obtain the judgment we have requested, we will attempt to execute on that judgment and find assets that still belong to the companies to distribute to the investors. At the moment, we are not aware of substantial assets to return.
So I got jacked, but figured I'd never see a dime of it so when they eventually wanted more info from the people going in on the class action, I went "whatever" but more power to everyone who stuck in there. Anyway, I felt I had to point out in the above quote... "still belong to the companies" the way I "heard" that was.. well he stole the money straight out of the company coffers so you are sol.. OR Well the company assets included btc but he totally sold that for cash and it's gone. (add any other variations you want but all ending with you are SOL)
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