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2601  Economy / Gambling / Re: List of casinos with free giveaway/pool for World Cup Football on: December 13, 2022, 10:24:10 PM
Anyway, now I am looking forward to Duelbits promo :-)



A few correct hits may give me something :-P

Is the top 100 rank has reward when the tournament ends? I’m having a hard time to predict precisely the outcome of the match during the knock out stage. The participants on the Duelbits that gets the first and 2nd price is really awesome.

I remember that a fellow Bitcointalk member is already ranking on top 1 to 3 on the tournament during the group stage. I didn’t follow already his current status but he is posting on Duelbits thread for his rank.

GL Royse
Guessing the ending score between teams on each game is surely difficult. I've tried betting on this one too but unfortunately I 'sucked' at guessing the right numbers. But I've created a separate 'personal bet' which has no reward, just on my notes wherein I tried guessing the winning team just like the typical sports bet rule.I got 6 right predictions and 1 wrong before I stopped. This simply shows how hard it is if the ending number is the one being guessed. But I've enjoyed it.
~snip~

Just got information from email that lynxbet super7 has determined the winners and the prizes are worth $500 each, whoever that is congrats to the winner and I hope they are bitcointalk forum users  Wink

The first 7 Rounds of the World Cup have ended, and with them, so has our Super 7 promotion. We can now reveal the winner of the leaderboard competition:
A huge congratulations to Stouts and Tokis20, who topped the Super 7 leaderboard and bagged themselves $500 each! We also had a few entrants who were very close to winning the $250,000 jackpot!


I just checked it and it was true that it only reached round 7. Since yesterday I have not participated in this score prediction because many of my guesses were wrong and finally chose to stop to focus on watching the match. Cheesy
Looks like this score prediction contest is over, congratulations to the winners they are great for guessing the 2022 world cup score which we know is so difficult.
I'm a bit curious, is it pure luck or some players (especially those who are on the leaderboards, have some kind or sort of a strategy? Would be glad to hear from them if they'd allow to. The rewards are indeed good for this one. Also to congratulate the winners 'coz I stopped on the early stage Lol.
2602  Economy / Gambling / Re: Researching for Upcoming Game on: December 13, 2022, 03:02:22 PM
Hi there,

I'm part of a team developing a crypto/blockchain game that has big $$ prize potential. I'm doing some research and hoping this community can help. If you guys have any insight/thoughts on the following questions please share them. We are really trying to build something that is enjoyable for the crypto gaming/gambling community.

- What are some current pain points in the crypto gaming/gambling space for players?
- What would you like to see?
- What makes one game fun to play -- more so than other competitors that have similar games (ex: why you enjoy playing crypto poker on X site rather than site A)?
- Who are some absolute Degens in the space?
- Aside from BitcoinTalk (this forum) where else do you get your news that you trust (which newsletters, sites, which Youtubers, any twitter accounts)?

We just want to build this game the right way that players actually enjoy playing in addition to potential of winning big....  Grin

Thanks all.
I'd participate.
1. Delays with payment and ofcourse, non-paying or scam gambling platforms. Since you are talking about general 'space' of this industry.
2.Something new. There are numerous gambling platforms but they are mostly the same.
3. Profit. For sure.
4. Players.
5. Twitter.

Hope this helps and also, I hope your project would be a success. Only a few are curious enough to gather informations from players whoch should be an important thing for new gambling platforms. They need to hear more from players because they are the primary market of this industry. As I've mentioned, there are many platforms to choose from if it is just gambling we are talking about. Question is, how would new sites excel over existing ones? Rewards and bonuses are the usuals, not to mention traditional games. There are other factors to consider and as a developer, you should explore those aspects.
2603  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Table tennis is the best sport gambling! (My strategy of winning) on: December 13, 2022, 02:03:29 PM
OP's strategy is like guessing based on observable features of the players and not a guess backed with a more powerful basis. Try to atleast do this on one straight month and see the result for yourself whether it is an effective strategy or not. But one thing is for sure, this would 100% based on pure luck which for me, contrasts the idea in sports betting wherein a gambler could gauge the risks and chances of winning based on a team or player's performances, as well as their/his weaknesses over the opponent. More of a strategical approach. But I won't invalidate the stand of OP; we do all have our own.
So you're basically betting on people because they "look like winners" ?

Great ! i'm sure this form of betting is sustainable.


Yes is important to read facial expressions. I would say odds on the casinos is more important expert determine the odds by their skills.
After you can predict by their winning records (if they experience lost today or wins) if their confidence is right based on their winnings and how they did based on matual opponents if you dig deeper.

Isn't it what we look though for any sports betting? we look for the odds and most likely the favorite has a higher chance of winning. Of course, there is an upset that we have to consider.

I seldom bet on table tennis, but I love this sports as well.

And I do agree that some results might be rigged especially if the players involved are not professional.
Table tennis will always be my most favorite sport way back then, as I enjoyed seeing skilled players with their own special strategies to win. However, I find it hard to play and win myself so most likely I end up betting in the most favorite to win. Not literally on its face gestures, but definitely on how good and skilled the player is as there’s no sign that the game is being rigged.
Actually, betting on a more popular side is a smart move if you are not really into that specific sport, because that would be the easiest way to cope up with the idea of something. If someone is popular in that field, then maybe he's that good even if it won't guarantee a win, atleast you have a stronger stand.
2604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where do slot game developers get the soundtracks they use? on: December 13, 2022, 01:32:22 PM
Probably paid around the web or they have a staff able to create original beats which would be suitable to the gambling platform in general or to a particular game. Quite odd that players are ablee to notice such details which are almost often disregarded. I'm guilty of it 'coz whenever I am playing games except for sportsbetting, I disable the sound then play songs on my personal playlist to ease up my mood. But since there are people who appreciate such feature of a site, gambling platforms might allot time to put extra effort on small details of their site, if this would reach them.
Where do slot game developers get the soundtracks they use in their game development? Are soundtracks made specifically for every game (that will be an extra budget) or do they use selected already existing soundtracks and just pay the creators some royalty for using it?
They can use any soundtrack that is already available as long as it can connect to the game especially when you hit the jackpot. Also, a developer can make their own soundtrack which can be more easy for them, most of the slots machine today have their own interesting soundtrack, it can actually help to increase the emotion of every gambler, if you are a developer better to create your own.

Copyright-related issues. They can't just use an already available soundtrack for their personal use. They might face the law.

But yes, they can instead make their own by hiring a professional service related to that matter.

That should not be a problem for them since spending money on those is just a common thing to expect.
Correct with the copyright issue. But for sure there will be small platforms to feel guilty on such aspect of their site. This will only be given emphasis if the artist would look into it and sue them afterwards but since most of the mainstream artits won't use such time , small commiter of copy right acts, move freely on this web.
2605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: turned gambler after investing in BTC or investor turned gambler? on: December 13, 2022, 01:04:04 PM
It depends on what type of a person you are. If you are into risks, no matter what activity you were from, there is a chance that you become a gambler or an investor or both (relative to one another since we are talking about risk). On the other hand there are gamers who are not into gambling but ofcourse it is wrong to generalize. There are gamers who are putting bets on the game but I doubt it is only the money they are into but also with the game they are playing. Unlike with gambling wherein people are just into profit. We are making choices freely and if you are definitely responsible to whatever path you would be trying to engage yourself with.
2606  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Using Bonus Buy or Not Using Bonus Buy? on: December 13, 2022, 10:47:48 AM
Not using bonus buy is cheaper long run but to utilize it immediately is still cheaper then being unlucky short run in attempting to get the bonus and failing which is the fear of most gamblers I guess.   The house wouldnt offer something which isnt of benefit to them in some way so I think thats the case that convivence costs.

Definitely agree.

Let's say the cheapest price is around $20 for a 0.1 or 0.2 bet. Still worth testing this and facing the risks compare to waiting for too long on manual bets that even spending $20, that bonus game will still not appear on our session.

Since it's gambling, just hope for the best that luck will come to us once we purchased the bonus game feature.
Definitely it should be "edged" to the gambling house. Why would they even offer duch thing if it would yield to loss on their end? But how will they make use of bonus buy without cheating their players such as to lessen their win rate? Purpose of bonus buy is to simply promote the site. If they would earn more players to engage with their platform, then that is a win for them especially if players would be driven to continue playing because of this bonus. Marketing Psychology is being applied in here. For sure if there will be people to be lucky enough to win and make use of the bonus, the platform would earn from other players who've lost. Simple logic I guess.
2607  Economy / Gambling / Re: A way to attract new users or a misunderstanding? on: December 13, 2022, 05:11:26 AM
Is web 3 a misunderstanding word for some gambling crypto projects? I've come across few gambling / crypto projects that claimed to be a web 3.0 online casino and other but they still ask for KYC.

The definition of web 3.0 had everything to do with decentralization, block chain technology and token based economics as per what Wikipedia illustrated so why is identity/ verification integrated?

Is this just a misunderstanding of what web 3 actually is? Or it's a way to attract people/users to make them think that their platform is more advanced?.
This happens when the when the gamblers do not understand what they really needs or understand the meaning of web 3.0. I have see many crypto projects that are been claiming to be on web 3.0 and help users to stay decentralized. When we don't understand what we want the problem will continue and this had been the market problem of many users and crypto investors including gamblers.
But from my own understanding I believe that every gambler knows what it wants, because i think gamblers have to do research to be able to detect exactly what they needs, but in a certain point, some of the claiming what they don't know feels like claiming in different ways of what they  cannot definition or don't know.you are right because some do not investigate to detect or able to know what they want or the easiest way to know what they don't know.
Maybe because of adjustments. Even before, KYC is not that of a big deal towards gambling site but maybe because of problems which arose such as minors being able to play, identity theft and such, they made such change even if it would  oppose their concept or 'wholeness' of a gambling platform. But indeed that is correct; web 3.0 should not be concerned with such informations from the users. However, gambling platforms' point of view might be more concerned with their players than their 'pride' of being under mentioned category. Some players would appreciate it especially to those who are one with duch feature, but it is not surprising to know that there will be people who won't.
2608  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What trends will be in the new bull run? on: December 12, 2022, 10:58:34 PM
No clues I guess except for what we all know that halving would take place in 2024. Earlier dates on that would be absurd. There could be a trend which may unxepectedly enter the industry likewise with how memecoins, nft, and p2e, emerged out of nowhere even if there are existing for years already. So maybe, trend will also come from existing concepts in this industry.
I think we're done with the gaming. Also, I think with social tokens, I've seen some attempts of it but it didn't really click at all. Maybe as big as Google and Amazon can do this.
We've seen Facebook try it but they have failed it as they went to focus on Metaverse which is also a failure because the market is no longer in that hype.
I think it's going to be the first choice since there's now the echoing of CBDCs then which might be the start of institutional blockchains and projects that's connected to it.
Myself too have the same thought. It could be institutional blockchains at the hype. Because more institutions are developing their own blockchain for different purpose. Entering into the market by the large scale firms will surely cause hype in the market as that we experienced during the days of ICO. In between so many small scale firms too will enjoy the benefit out of the hype same as ICO launched without purpose grow good in the past.
Possible. It might be tokens with land-based utilities or tokens which can be used on a certain application. But eitherway, this is something to look forward with in the future. More businesses are engaging with this technology which makes this industry more acknowledged by many people.
2609  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I failed to notice this all along on: December 12, 2022, 10:30:27 PM
Yeah, it is quite risky. I vested on a token, Ferro protocol. There was an initial vest, with a small portion released at launch. The token pumped, but later faced a gradual dump and it was unlocked. It was gradual though because 10% were released every month
Same scenario with what I usually saw with projects which has a 'lock in' features. It is quite a form of staking for me but different because you won't be able to pull your tokens out in an instant. As others have mentioned, it is too risky. Reason is lack of consistency with the market value of a token. Also, it has the same logic with fiat. Try to just store an amount of money in bank for decades. Compare how much its value from before up to present wherein you'd be only able to buy a few for that amount in the present because of inflation. But inflation is not the reason with market price downfall of a locked token, but rather volatility. What ties both situation is lsck of consistency with market "value".
2610  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was Bitcoin project a failure after all ? on: December 12, 2022, 03:22:46 PM
It's really been a long run for Bitcoin and there's a high tendency that this technology would be 'here' for more years as our technology advances. But to answer the question if it is a failed project, it depends on your view point. If you view it as a mode of payment, then this technology still is so young because many countries are still not supporting the usage of this currency. But on investors' viewpoint, it is successful for having a 'continuous' growth in its price over years which makes it still a good option as an asset even if its market value is too volatile. As more countries adapt to this technology, we would more likely see growth on how this currency will be acknoledged by more people.
2611  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: NFT ?? What do you think about it ? ? ? on: December 12, 2022, 02:43:40 PM
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Thank you for your feedback! I think it would be cooler if NFTs were sold together with the physical original of the painting! What do you think about it??
I think a certificate of purchase and authenticity of an art object can just be issued in the form of an sf, it would be much more logical.So that,for example, with the help of a qr code, it would be possible to view an entry in the blockchain.

Also, if it is just physical form, then how would nft be different from 'typical' artworks? NFTs are different; some of them have utilities, some has an equivalent physical form, and some has an advocacy. Having no physical form at all won't make it less of what it really is. Proof or purchase it to add 'legitimacy' with the artwork right? But there are already watermarks, code or artwork numbers for that so I think there's no need to do so.

And for those people who lowly look towards NFT? You guys might not really know a thing about it. It is more than a piece of clip art or picture alone. There's more into it. The overall value of NFT, jist like a traditional art, depends on the audience who looks at it.
2612  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What awareness would this bring to bitcoin on: December 12, 2022, 02:05:55 PM
Well, it would be a nice idea to pay them bitcoin but unfortunately --bitcoin is not a centralized currency.
It is a global sport and expected that it is paid with dollars, not in bitcoin but I think there is a possibility that players will buy bitcoin on the prize they win. There are a lot of people who watch this FIFA event and I think it becomes awareness if there is an ad for bitcoin there, like Nike, Adidas, Pepsi, McDo and etc. But the problem is who is going to sponsor the bitcoin name appearing during those marketing ads.
Also, not every people are interested with this technology and we cannot force them to do so. But that's not a period on the chances that those people could still be hooked up. We may try our 'shot' as this industry continues to emerge and be known by more people. At this moment, the idea of OP is far from reality. World cup speaks in general and that covers both countries who are prohibiting and allowing the use of ceyptocurrency. But those participants who are interested may convert a portion of their prize to cryptocurrency IF they are interested. Some people would prefer other type of investments which are less risky. But I'm okay with such tournaments paying fiat because it simply gives freedom to the player whether to invest or not.
2613  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I need this now If you can make it on: December 12, 2022, 01:39:02 PM
Someone who can create coin and mobile app for smart phone so the coin Will have in this app.
Everybody will use only this one mostly and i do marketing and influencing people to use it.
Off course big air drops to users
Most Nice If it Will be Stable coin like usd or eur this project Will rock
Can you do it ?
You'll do the marketing? It's too ambitious to think of this plan and making it look like easy in executing it. The reality is you'll take time in doing it and you'll have to spend in all of it, how much budget you've got? Sorry to say but plans like this will remain a plan if you don't know where to start and where you're going to get your budget for funding it. Making project these days are easy if you've got money but making it known is harder and the hardest is to maintain it if ever you've got bunch of users and you're starting to get famous.
Also with the stable coin, how? Stable coins are usually under the control of government or simply, fiat-based. Another thing is capital if OP is really serious with this one. You have to be practical; money and time would be consumed and his part of just promoting it won't be enough. I also agree with the procedures to be not as easy as 1,2,3. Things should be well planned and be mindful of the risk on not succeeding. If we would think of how many projects are being released on a monthly ,basis, the ratio of projects succeeding over projects which are failing, has a huge difference.

An app would be done easily but creating a 'chai' would be another story. I suggest studying project procedures before coming to a vague idea if you are really that interested of creating one. Just my cents.
2614  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Who are responsible for the bear run on: December 12, 2022, 12:50:32 PM
Investors themselves, but unintentionally. The market price is solely dependent with market demand which makes sense to say that if people are not interested, we may not expect for a high market value on cryptocurrencies. Then why are people seem not to be interested to invest? Probably factors which happened recently such as with undying ftx issue, exonomic related problems, wars and such. We do all just go through different circumstances as investors. We are all prone to that. Once there are positively related things towards this industry, it would reflect to the demand and eventually, the market price. So for now, wait for that thing to appear or occur.
2615  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Bloody Year 2022 coming to End on: December 12, 2022, 12:26:39 PM
Indeed, many thing happened this year; from values breaking barriers and 'celings' to a deep downfall. At the present, recovery still is a struggle for this industry and no one knows when will the market in general go up again. For now it is either holding, or investing more, are the best options to do if you are an investor. For those who are planning to engage with this industry, be sure to gauge your capabilities and circumstances because no assurance still whether the market price would be able to recover early next year, with that, you have to endure the market situation.
The above shameful scam has completely negative impact on the Bitcoin market in 2022.  We all hope that such incidents do not happen in cryptocurrencies in the coming years.

everyone must expect the best. but along the way, there will always be someone who acts as the antagonist. where similar scams will occur again once the Bitcoin market recovers. maybe not the same, but with the new scheme, they came to the market to make a splash. and again, every certain period we can see the same situation.
Antagonist? I'd say realistic 'coz there will always a possibility to do so. Thus, investors should be more cautious of their actions especially when it comes on investment.
2616  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Now is the perfect time to invest in Bitcoin on: December 11, 2022, 10:52:23 PM

In my opinion, the all time best period to invest in bitcoin was about 10 years ago and the next best time to invest in bitcoin is now. But a valid point to remember is to have the ability to hold onto the coins for a long time. That’s when investments(bitcoin or otherwise) usually yield maximum profits
There’s always some risk to bear when venturing into investments and that should not deter the young and inexperienced investors to be able to buy and hold bitcoin for the long run.

Why was the best opportunity ten years ago? But what about March 2020, when bitcoin was worth 3k, it was not a great time to buy? And why do you think the best time is now, because the price is now 16k, which is much higher than it was two years ago, I don’t quite understand how you determine the best time to invest, maybe we have different criteria? )
Everyone have their own clear view on when to buy bitcoin, he chooses 10 years earlier was better to bagged bitcoin, although it's price have not pump to this present amount and it course have one of the best entry of bitcoin. Buying bitcoin currently, is also one of good remaining decisions to triggered but we should fully assure of the downtrend of bitcoin before hopping on the projects. there's every possibilities that we can buy the dip, and keep dipping with the dip.
It is really hard to predict the perfect down of the market. Each and every price can be considered as the right one to enter the market. If we were able to enter at the perfect down the time to experience the profit gets lowered. If one enters the market at the top, automatically it'll make the user hold for a long to experience the profit. Rather than looking for an entry, I suggest users to develop the minds to have patience with which it is possible to overcome any sort of market downturn.
The perfect time to invest is when you're ready. As you've mentioned, it is hard to predict the lowest market price Bitcoin could reach and that is true. And that is also why investing once you can afford to set aside such amount, is the perfect time. Once you've entered this market, you must be equipped with the idea of loss possibilities. The market price could either go up or continue to fall down once you invested, and that would be the problem if you are just hoping to earn profit as an investor. Right now, there are still no clear signs of market recovery and it could be months or year before such thing happen; no one knows. So if you plan to invest, could you endure?
2617  Economy / Economics / Re: Have Satoshi dream failed? on: December 11, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
Satoshi's dream is still alive and It is fighting with the imposition of CBDC for compulsory use by all and the abolition of cash. It is the only way to escape the current financial system and central banks that is why they want to control Bitcoin price and with attempts to ban it.
Not like this is Satoshi Nakamoto's dream in creating bitcoin, there is no concept of Bitcoin development that was carried out by Satoshi to eliminate the function of fiat currency, I have almost never encountered this concept in the current journey of bitcoin.

Because the realm of taxation is the jurisdiction of various countries, although there are certain countries that are free from the use of taxes or smaller in number. If you consider Satoshi's dream to be a failure, then at this point we will never see bitcoin again, the tax has no direct relationship with the bitcoin link as stated by the OP. While it is true that as a rule trying to control bitcoin by trying to ban it, that also does not stop bitcoin, because the freedom that people expect is within the realm of the Bitcoin concept.
Well said. Also, taxations would only be done through third party wallets or banks such that if you would put an amount questionnable (have experienced that one) but there's no way they could trace all of your assets given that this industry is decentralized. Regarding satoshi's dream, who mentioned it given that we don't even know who he really is? These are just mere assumptions by most of us since this industry speaks for currency, then it is not surprising that people like us are assuming that the goal of this technology is to 'surpass' fiat currency. Unfortunately, things win't work that way. So for the meantime, we should atleast make use of this technology by means of investment.
2618  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins future is Bright on: December 11, 2022, 03:14:28 PM
it will take a long time before bitcoin rises again because it is still low and yet not high again if it is high it is not that high so everyone will have to wait until 2024 for everyone to start using bitcoinchain technology.
If history repeats itself, we are only halfway through the bear cycle, meaning we still have a long way to go until the next bull season, so what we need to do now is be patient. No one knows the future of bitcoin, but with what has happened in the past as well as the present, we have the right to expect the future of bitcoin to be extremely bright.
Well, the breakthrough in this topic is what future are we talking about? 'coz if it is regarding adaptation to this technology and wide use of cryptocurrencies for sure there is a bright future. More businesses; big and small are now accepting Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies as a mode of payment. But regarding the market value of Bitcoin, if it would continue rising, I'm not quite sure of it. The demand is low for daily transactions, in contrast with the demand on asset or investment purposes which might yield to a conflict in the future. Conflict by means of not being widely used; in contrast to its main purpose. Why? 'coz people would more put attention into holding which might negatively affect the price 'coz if it is daily transactions only, people might use other digital currencies having higher transaction fees but is more accessible right? But as progressive development continues, maybe this thing would be balanced, I hope.
2619  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Biggest Scam History in the Cryptocurrency on: December 11, 2022, 02:30:30 PM
Out of all the scam projects you mentioned, I was most impressed with bitconnect, it was a very successful ponzi project in 2017 and its price has increased to over $400 per token. But in the end, what comes must come because it is just a Ponzi scheme.
It was the demise of Bitconnect that was the leading cause of the 2018 bear season, a catastrophic bear season no different from this year.



I believe you forgot the real biggest scam history in cryptocurrency which is the Mt.Gox considering that the hacking event is an inside job since the CEO is jailed for falsifying there records. The estimated amount loss on this event was around 650K to 800K Bitcoins which is a trillion or billion dollar value using the current rate of Bitcoin.

Lots of undocumented exit scam too happened that greater value on the NFT industry during its hype.
The bitcoin price in 2014 was not as high as it is now, so it cannot be said that Mt.gox was the biggest scam in crypto history. For comparison, I still rate the crash of FTX as the biggest market crash ever, wiping out $120 billion in market capitalization by the time it collapsed.
I remember that Bitconnect incident. But below these huge scam projects are small projects which turned out to be a scam, not to mention their quantity ofcourse. With these incidents, it is quite unfortunate that many people are still falling for the same scheme. Problem only is that, projects won't announce if they are legitimate or not right? Silly! Investors may only do some background research which could be faked. Likewise with fake community for that certain projects. But that's just how this industry works I think. Anonymity is everything. The least an investor could do is to 'bet' into a project and hope that it won't turn out to be his or her lost.
2620  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: People who don't use hardware wallets: Why not? on: December 11, 2022, 12:44:14 PM
Why not hardware wallets ? See below
The main reason for which many people don’t use hardware wallets is due to the necessity of the users. Most of the time, users don’t have large amount of Bitcoins. They basically hold a couple hundred dollars worth Bitcoins. Now in order to store it, they aren’t gonna buy a 200$ worth of wallets. Moreover Desktop or paper wallet can also be a good and free alternatives to these wallets, and majority of the users use this for it’s flexibility.
Of course it doesn't make sense if someone use almost all of his money to buy hardware wallet while they only hold small amount money, although I agree most people who hold Bitcoin aren't rich, but there's many cases where a rich people who invest around $10K on Bitcoin doesn't even understand what is wallet and decentralization. They will leave their funds on centralized exchange since they think it's safe with 2FA, KYC, etc. While actually it doesn't help you when the exchange got hacked and you lose all of your funds.

There are many reasons why many investors do not use hardware wallets, and one of the reasons you give is correct, I have encountered many such cases. Simply put, many people invest in bitcoin, they only care about how to make a profit, and they don't care about privacy or protecting their own assets. Like forex traders, they only need 2FA, a good security email, they consider it safe. Many investors still don't know the difference between bitcoin and other traditional investment models.
I do have a hardware wallet but I still often use Online wallet for my movable assets or assets I used for investment and trading while my hardware wallet is for my assets for lomg term holding. My reason? For my lifestyle, online wallets are more and easily accessible even with my phone although I'm aware that it is more prone to 'hacking' problems. But I myself lost things easily so I decided not to carry my hardware wallet most of the time just to be sure. These are just my insights and might somehow support the side of investors who are not using hardware wallets. I also asked my friend to buy one but he's guilty of investing such amount especially if there is a cheaper alternative; online wallets. He's also aware of the risk by the way so maybe it is just a matter of picking your own poison.
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