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2621  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2020, 01:39:05 PM
Are you going to be such tricky buggers when we get towards €20k, €50k, €100k etcetera etcetera etcetera?

No. € bureaucracy has only power around 10k; next round I suspect the Serbian динap to whip the price. when will the £ have its time to shine?

 Personally, I'm looking forward to one billion dong!

 #nohomo
2622  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2020, 01:16:22 PM


Other then if <censored> hits 1 dollar.😀

Hey no shitcoinery talk bro.
Else Jay will meme bat-slap you upside the head.
Followed by lots of words...

Hell having that coin lets me hodl all my btc.

I tell my self it has a huge upside. as it has only 500 million marketcap.

I only need  four or five billionaires to jack it up ten or twenty fold.  Like the Hunt bros did with silver when i was in the Navy. those shit coins allow me to stay relaxed about my btc.

hodl btc.

Now here is my exact point.  Btc got to 12134 and dropped to 11920 weak hands sold at 12+

in olden days. I would have been weak.

instead I smiled at 12134

then looked at my doge which is up today and simply smiled again.


btw doge was a the leading indication of this run as it had a strong rise back in ealry july.

that prompted me to buy some btc miners on ebay using 24 months no interest

I get to trade paypal credit for steady cheaply purchased coins.

i pay 50-50 coins so

I am buying btc from these miners at 11900/2 or 5950 a btc.  add in the monthly payment of 35 a month.

As I rarely trade I look at it from outside the box of charts teacups spoons 🥄 etc.

as I am buying coins at 1/2 price

 Wow.  Half-price Bitcoin sounds awesome.  I've looked into using used and brand new miners where I live and even though the gov't has removed time-of-day pricing for electricity and fixed the price at ~$.09 /kWh I would be lucky to break even on the electricity cost alone.  You're a maestro of mining!
2623  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2020, 04:12:00 AM
 I'm afraid I'll miss something if I go to bed.  BTC is on a tear.  Is there any resistance before 12350?
2624  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2020, 04:09:12 AM
2625  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2020, 01:51:38 AM
Come on Bitcoin!


2626  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Tutorial - How to create Table in the BitcoinTalk Forum on: August 02, 2020, 01:36:28 AM
Great tutorial.  Here's a tool (not mine) to make BBCode table creation easier.

teamoplolis.com/tools/bbcode-table-generator.aspx
alternativelyyoucan usethishandyonline
tablegeneratortosaveyourselfsometime.
Itwillcreatethetableforyou
thenallyouhave todois
fillit inand clickgenerate!Piece 'o cake

https://www.teamopolis.com/tools/bbcode-table-generator.aspx

NB header tags don't work on Bitcointalk so uncheck the "1st row is header" box.
2627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 02, 2020, 12:39:57 AM
He seems to have lived his life on his own terms.  That alone deserves respect.

Too bad he gave up on reality and started drinking the Kool-Aid. Happens to a lot of successful people, they think that just because they are successful at one thing they are experts in everything.

 The reality is that many people successful or not don't like being told what to do regardless of the consequence.  I don't think there is any new Kool-Aid involved wrt the mask.  Sure, the science is out;

Do you really think that "we" already know about science related to the virus?  whether we are talking about masks or a variety of other aspects of the way that it affects people and the utility, effectiveness or cost benefits of various precautionary measures?  whether we are talking about masks or other possible protections?

 I was referring to the science of the mask itself; it prevents droplets of infected spittle from being expelled from the mouth into the surrounding space not only when coughing or sneezing but also when talking, singing, yelling, cheering etc.  In the early stages of the pandemic, the guidance from WHO was that healthy people need not to wear a mask.  That's logical and rational, right?  That's science.  

First off, I had to do a double-take regarding your seeming attempt to out wall of text me, which I believe has been noted in subsequent posts.

 Angry  Angry Angry Angry

Let me allow my anger to sink in for a bit more and for a while, longer...

 Angry Angry Angry

Regarding the substance of your above point, I understand that the WHO has been pointed out as waffling, being inconsistent and even getting political, such as covering up Chinese misinformation.. so yes, there are some problems with their contradictory stances and then seeming attempts to recover from that.

I would not be proclaiming that science is either absolute or that it has not be without its problematic influences, but I will still maintain that value can still be gotten from various kinds of science and even looking at its methodology or even demanding from time to time that both it's work has to be shown and that there might not be any absolute answer on some questions or that preliminary results may have led to bad outcomes.  Even if there might be people or institutions to blame for bad science or bad information,  each of us needs to be humble enough to either admit that there might be certain science claims that we do not understand or that sometimes we get things wrong... and to attempt to learn from the various mistakes and even take corrective actions if there had been some corruption or bias issues involved in previous communications of facts and/or science..



In general, it's true because the mask is much much better at preventing an infected person from expelling droplets of infected spittle into the air many meters around them potentially infecting others.  Healthy people cannot transmit something they don't have.  That's the science... but wait there's more!  It turns out that many people that had Covid-19 were asymptomatic.  Oops.  

Of course, we know that there are various ways to transmit, various measures that can be taken and various questions regarding both when a person might be contagious and whether someone who has already caught Corona might be able to catch it again.

You, xhomerx10, seem to be describing some background that supports my point is that there are knowns, unknowns and unknown unknowns, still.

Has science failed us?  No, but it turns out (surprise, surprise) that healthy is not an objective description with respect to Covid-19.  Well it's too late.  You've already said, "Healthy people need not wear masks" and the world was listening.  

I think that some of these matters are still being studied, so don't lock yourself into a position too soon, homer.


Some countries issued guidance based on that recommendation.  Fast forward a couple of months and now you have to backtrack because it turns out that "healthy" is actually quite subjective.

Yes.  There has been lots of variations in terms of how various countries had implemented guidelines, the extent to which ppe and facilities to socially distance (or separate known infected peeps) were available, variation in compliance and variation in both tests available and ability to socially trace once positive results were discovered.

In my mind, distancing, decontamination and masks should have been used initially to combat the spread before we even toyed with the idea of locking down.  

It's quite likely that various lock downs were accomplished with such recklessness that almost anyone could point to better targeted ways to attempt to address the specific virus issue.. so I am not sure how far we are going to get if we are going to discuss the so many ways that shutdowns could have been better tailored including various kinds of empowering measures like ramping up testing and the production of ppe and social distancing facilities whether treatment or lodging or other attempts at targeting efforts.


Once we have a proper and plentiful testing kits, then we should have moved to isolating infected people only.  Shutting down the world was a bad idea and we'll have hell to pay for that in the future.  Alas, I am not a Pharmacist.

Probably no one is going to disagree with you regarding an overall statement that targeting could have been carried out better, yet some folks might disagree whether you are a pharmacist... **

** by the way, I believe that a more specifically trained person for this virus matter would be an epidemiologist rather than a pharmacist.. but who is trying to parse these kinds of details, anyhow, besides us?


the science is out on many things which we also ignore on a daily basis without any consideration.  

That's true, but does not mean that we know hardly shit about this particular virus, yet.

Sure, we could pick almost any topic, and there would be controversy about what "science" applies, even though there are some kinds of science that are less controversial than others and even harder to argue against.. such as whether 1+1 = 2 versus if there are some more complicated variables in the equation that needs to be measured.

 I agree on both counts.  One of the things we don't know and no country seems to care to find out is the absolute number of infections.  From early on, we were only testing front-line healthcare workers and people showing symptoms and then we were surprised by the possibility of asymptomatic transmission.

I think that there were various approaches, and sure we agree that better targeting could have been accomplished.

We don't know what role children could play in the transmission of the virus since they have been isolated for most of this and yet, at least in my region, we are being told that children will be returning to school in September, wearing masks for 6 hours per day and somehow socially distancing for lunches and recesses.  I think we're relying too heavily on the mask in this case.

I cannot really disagree with you here, even though my middle name is "disagree"   Tongue


Speeding, smoking, drinking alcohol, using drugs, unprotected sex, going to the Moon/Mars and not wearing your seat belt...  Some people are more inclined to take risks than others.

Fair enough.. but with a virus, there is more than just a one way street - including potential exponential spreading.. whether you believe that it is contagious or spreadable or not... maybe it is NOT as spreadable as it is made out to be?  some of those aspects of the virus seem to NOT be well known yet, even though I bet that there are some scientist that know way the fuck more than others.  There are also some scientist that are likely full of shit, too.

 The other things I mentioned are not just a one-way street but I'm not going to itemize each one and describe how.   Even if you think they are a one-way street, the third most common cause of death in developed countries is alcohol and it accounts for over 3% of deaths world-wide annually.  Tobacco use causes more than 8 million deaths annually but 1.2 million of those are non-smokers.  I said wasn't going to do that.  Sorry.
 Many scientists are full of shit but at the same time, analyzing data is no easy task.  They likely have good intentions.

Does this mean that we agree or we don't regarding something that is contagious being of a slightly different category, even though there may still be weighing of community versus individual interests with any kinds of policy considerations?

I'm not going to condemn the man based on that one thing - it was his choice.  Maybe his death will serve as the motivation for others who are on the fence about wearing a mask to put one on; especially those who are in the "more susceptible" categories.

I will agree with you that notable figures can sometimes serve as a better example (and perhaps resonate with others) better than  not really knowing of any examples or maybe getting bad information in regards to some of the examples that any one of us might hear about... including whether the examples are anecdotal or representative... which comes with study and perhaps with the passage of time and the witnessing of more data, too.

Of course, there are some people who are overly scared and overly precautious. I have some difficulties understanding much if any benefits in wearing a mask outdoor when no people are around, except that maybe there might be some easiness in not having to take it off and put it back on, perhaps... but anyhow, I doubt that there is any real benefit in some of the philosophies of the Corona parties.. when there is purposeful desires to catch the virus in order to help with the increasing of herd immunity, if such a thing exists with this particular virus.  Anyhow, good on you, if you want to purposefully catch Corona virus and somehow serve as an unpaid subject of a study that is still in the process of figuring out a lot of the variables and a lot of the scenarios.

 I think wearing a mask in heavily populated cities outside makes sense.  In other cities where you can actually swing a cat, wearing a mask only when entering enclosed public spaces makes sense.  Increased hand-washing and improved sanitization efforts makes sense everywhere.

If we keep agreeing so much, we are going to have to get a room together, I would not want that.  Angry Angry #nohomo.

This is merely anecdotal but I've had to continue working throughout this pandemic.  Those who could work from home were told to do so which reduced the number of people physically coming to work to ~400.  If we have symptoms, we must call a special health line to see if we should come to work, we have our temperature checked before entering work through one main gate, they have placed hand sanitizer stations in high traffic areas, we are using distancing and they have employed people to regularly clean/sanitize key areas.  If I we have to work within 6 feet of one another, we must wear a mask otherwise, they are optional (and supplied).  We are not allowed to wear cloth masks at all.  So far, we have had no Covid-19 transmission.

Of course, workplace to workplace is going to vary, and sure some people are pissed off as fuck if they are having to hassle with wearing masks everyday, and being potentially exposed to the virus and others might stay at home and get paid more than if they had been working.

We have nearly perfect grounds for lots of people getting pissed off... even if they are not really victimized in any kind of specifically individual and meaningful way.

The reality is that many people successful or not don't like being told what to do regardless of the consequence.  I don't think there is any new Kool-Aid involved wrt the mask.  Sure, the science is out; the science is out on many things which we also ignore on a daily basis without any consideration.  Speeding, smoking, drinking alcohol, using drugs, unprotected sex, going to the Moon/Mars and not wearing your seat belt...  Some people are more inclined to take risks than others.
 
 I'm not going to condemn the man based on that one thing - it was his choice.  Maybe his death will serve as the motivation for others who are on the fence about wearing a mask to put one on; especially those who are in the "more susceptible" categories.

It's not simply a matter of taking a risk. It's about endangering others.

Though I agree with you at the base of it, I suppose my general feelings are more in line with the idea that each person is responsible for their own choices in regards to this... everything really.

This man paid the price for his own choices.  And I cannot care less about what his opinion is on masks insofar as it's effect on whether or not I wear one.  That is my choice and I own the consequences.

On the other hand there is some theories that masks protect other more than the wearer.  In this regard I believe locally based laws and regs are appropriate.  
And if you are breaking the law by not wearing one I think that too should be something one is ready to face the consequences of.

How about the death sentence if there is sufficient proof that your failure and refusal to wear a mask had caused the death of someone else?  Sound good?

 We already have laws to address such situations but my country is abolitionist so the death-penalty is a non-starter.  In saying that, we might have been the first country to execute a person for failing to wear a mask.
https://nationalpost.com/news/senior-haliburton-resident-who-refused-to-wear-mask-at-store-was-shot-dead-in-altercation-with-ontario-police

 Maybe.  Do you believe that is representative, or even some conflicts can ensure that start out of a lot of stupid-ass shit.. so, hard to say, just on the face of it, that the man was given the death penalty, even though he did end up dying.

Since the onset of this virus, the goal has been to "flatten the curve" not to prevent all deaths due to Covid-19; that's certainly improbable and likely impossible unless a vaccine can be developed.  

 A vaccine might never be developed.. so I would think that some measures should be taken.

As we have already seen, some areas have opened up only to have to reinstate lockdowns.  

Sure.  again a lack of targeting.

The mask is only on small part of the answer; it's not even necessary for absolutely everyone to wear a mask to accomplish the goal of reducing the curve.  

 fair enough.

To be honest, I'm more upset about the fact that our supermarkets have stopped having a dedicated employee cleaning the shopping carts as they are returned than seeing the odd person come to the store with his shirt pulled up over his mouth because the security guard at the front door says he needs to wear a mask.

 Yes.  Virus is more likely to be spread when there is lack of consistencies and lacking of adequate precautions.  Virus does not seem to be going away anytime soon in part based on a lot of misinformation, disinformation and a variety of lackenings of adequate precautions.. and even sometimes even purposeful refusal to take any precautions.


Probably there are going to be rages no matter what, and even lack of consistency can cause rages, too.
 

Pinpointing the super-spreaders and shutting them down (preferably using non-lethal methods) might be the best way to stop the spread of Covid-19.

Give me a hug, xhomer... you big fluffy pussy cat.   Wink  We made it through the whole thing.  #nohomo.

homer going full JJG   Roll Eyes

Exactly.

He's trying to displace me.  That fuck.  Cry

 Uncle!
 
#nohomo
2628  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2020, 05:30:50 PM
homer going full JJG   Roll Eyes

---------
Vitalik’s Secret Fashion Show Wink #nohomo
https://twitter.com/DefiWith/status/1289555690747437056




 
2629  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2020, 04:38:56 PM
Meanwhile I can't get this straight, small weddings are allowed but facials are still banned. What sort of wedding night do these monsters propose?

 Glory-holes?
2630  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 01, 2020, 04:36:47 PM
He seems to have lived his life on his own terms.  That alone deserves respect.

Too bad he gave up on reality and started drinking the Kool-Aid. Happens to a lot of successful people, they think that just because they are successful at one thing they are experts in everything.

 The reality is that many people successful or not don't like being told what to do regardless of the consequence.  I don't think there is any new Kool-Aid involved wrt the mask.  Sure, the science is out;

Do you really think that "we" already know about science related to the virus?  whether we are talking about masks or a variety of other aspects of the way that it affects people and the utility, effectiveness or cost benefits of various precautionary measures?  whether we are talking about masks or other possible protections?

 I was referring to the science of the mask itself; it prevents droplets of infected spittle from being expelled from the mouth into the surrounding space not only when coughing or sneezing but also when talking, singing, yelling, cheering etc.  In the early stages of the pandemic, the guidance from WHO was that healthy people need not to wear a mask.  That's logical and rational, right?  That's science.  In general, it's true because the mask is much much better at preventing an infected person from expelling droplets of infected spittle into the air many meters around them potentially infecting others.  Healthy people cannot transmit something they don't have.  That's the science... but wait there's more!  It turns out that many people that had Covid-19 were asymptomatic.  Oops.  Has science failed us?  No, but it turns out (surprise, surprise) that healthy is not an objective description with respect to Covid-19.  Well it's too late.  You've already said, "Healthy people need not wear masks" and the world was listening.  Some countries issued guidance based on that recommendation.  Fast forward a couple of months and now you have to backtrack because it turns out that "healthy" is actually quite subjective.
In my mind, distancing, decontamination and masks should have been used initially to combat the spread before we even toyed with the idea of locking down.  Once we have a proper and plentiful testing kits, then we should have moved to isolating infected people only.  Shutting down the world was a bad idea and we'll have hell to pay for that in the future.  Alas, I am not a Pharmacist.

the science is out on many things which we also ignore on a daily basis without any consideration.  

That's true, but does not mean that we know hardly shit about this particular virus, yet.

Sure, we could pick almost any topic, and there would be controversy about what "science" applies, even though there are some kinds of science that are less controversial than others and even harder to argue against.. such as whether 1+1 = 2 versus if there are some more complicated variables in the equation that needs to be measured.

 I agree on both counts.  One of the things we don't know and no country seems to care to find out is the absolute number of infections.  From early on, we were only testing front-line healthcare workers and people showing symptoms and then we were surprised by the possibility of asymptomatic transmission.
 We don't know what role children could play in the transmission of the virus since they have been isolated for most of this and yet, at least in my region, we are being told that children will be returning to school in September, wearing masks for 6 hours per day and somehow socially distancing for lunches and recesses.  I think we're relying too heavily on the mask in this case.

Speeding, smoking, drinking alcohol, using drugs, unprotected sex, going to the Moon/Mars and not wearing your seat belt...  Some people are more inclined to take risks than others.

Fair enough.. but with a virus, there is more than just a one way street - including potential exponential spreading.. whether you believe that it is contagious or spreadable or not... maybe it is NOT as spreadable as it is made out to be?  some of those aspects of the virus seem to NOT be well known yet, even though I bet that there are some scientist that know way the fuck more than others.  There are also some scientist that are likely full of shit, too.

 The other things I mentioned are not just a one-way street but I'm not going to itemize each one and describe how.   Even if you think they are a one-way street, the third most common cause of death in developed countries is alcohol and it accounts for over 3% of deaths world-wide annually.  Tobacco use causes more than 8 million deaths annually but 1.2 million of those are non-smokers.  I said wasn't going to do that.  Sorry.
 Many scientists are full of shit but at the same time, analyzing data is no easy task.  They likely have good intentions.

I'm not going to condemn the man based on that one thing - it was his choice.  Maybe his death will serve as the motivation for others who are on the fence about wearing a mask to put one on; especially those who are in the "more susceptible" categories.

I will agree with you that notable figures can sometimes serve as a better example (and perhaps resonate with others) better than  not really knowing of any examples or maybe getting bad information in regards to some of the examples that any one of us might hear about... including whether the examples are anecdotal or representative... which comes with study and perhaps with the passage of time and the witnessing of more data, too.

Of course, there are some people who are overly scared and overly precautious. I have some difficulties understanding much if any benefits in wearing a mask outdoor when no people are around, except that maybe there might be some easiness in not having to take it off and put it back on, perhaps... but anyhow, I doubt that there is any real benefit in some of the philosophies of the Corona parties.. when there is purposeful desires to catch the virus in order to help with the increasing of herd immunity, if such a thing exists with this particular virus.  Anyhow, good on you, if you want to purposefully catch Corona virus and somehow serve as an unpaid subject of a study that is still in the process of figuring out a lot of the variables and a lot of the scenarios.

 I think wearing a mask in heavily populated cities outside makes sense.  In other cities where you can actually swing a cat, wearing a mask only when entering enclosed public spaces makes sense.  Increased hand-washing and improved sanitization efforts makes sense everywhere.
 This is merely anecdotal but I've had to continue working throughout this pandemic.  Those who could work from home were told to do so which reduced the number of people physically coming to work to ~400.  If we have symptoms, we must call a special health line to see if we should come to work, we have our temperature checked before entering work through one main gate, they have placed hand sanitizer stations in high traffic areas, we are using distancing and they have employed people to regularly clean/sanitize key areas.  If I we have to work within 6 feet of one another, we must wear a mask otherwise, they are optional (and supplied).  We are not allowed to wear cloth masks at all.  So far, we have had no Covid-19 transmission.
 

The reality is that many people successful or not don't like being told what to do regardless of the consequence.  I don't think there is any new Kool-Aid involved wrt the mask.  Sure, the science is out; the science is out on many things which we also ignore on a daily basis without any consideration.  Speeding, smoking, drinking alcohol, using drugs, unprotected sex, going to the Moon/Mars and not wearing your seat belt...  Some people are more inclined to take risks than others.
 
 I'm not going to condemn the man based on that one thing - it was his choice.  Maybe his death will serve as the motivation for others who are on the fence about wearing a mask to put one on; especially those who are in the "more susceptible" categories.

It's not simply a matter of taking a risk. It's about endangering others.

Though I agree with you at the base of it, I suppose my general feelings are more in line with the idea that each person is responsible for their own choices in regards to this... everything really.

This man paid the price for his own choices.  And I cannot care less about what his opinion is on masks insofar as it's effect on whether or not I wear one.  That is my choice and I own the consequences.  On the other hand there is some theories that masks protect other more than the wearer.  In this regard I believe locally based laws and regs are appropriate.  And if you are breaking the law by not wearing one I think that too should be something one is ready to face the consequences of.

How about the death sentence if there is sufficient proof that your failure and refusal to wear a mask had caused the death of someone else?  Sound good?

 We already have laws to address such situations but my country is abolitionist so the death-penalty is a non-starter.  In saying that, we might have been the first country to execute a person for failing to wear a mask.
https://nationalpost.com/news/senior-haliburton-resident-who-refused-to-wear-mask-at-store-was-shot-dead-in-altercation-with-ontario-police

  Since the onset of this virus, the goal has been to "flatten the curve" not to prevent all deaths due to Covid-19; that's certainly improbable and likely impossible unless a vaccine can be developed.  As we have already seen, some areas have opened up only to have to reinstate lockdowns.  The mask is only on small part of the answer; it's not even necessary for absolutely everyone to wear a mask to accomplish the goal of reducing the curve.  To be honest, I'm more upset about the fact that our supermarkets have stopped having a dedicated employee cleaning the shopping carts as they are returned than seeing the odd person come to the store with his shirt pulled up over his mouth because the security guard at the front door says he needs to wear a mask.

 Sadly, mask rage is a thing.

 Pinpointing the super-spreaders and shutting them down (preferably using non-lethal methods) might be the best way to stop the spread of Covid-19.

2631  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2020, 10:00:11 PM
OT: WTF is it about Bitcoin entrepreneurs (and/or celebs) with their narcissistic heads stuck so far up their asses, that makes them think they have what it takes to run for President of U.S.A. ?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/child-star-turned-millionaire-brock-155613028.html

Who is next? CSW? Roger Ver? Calvin Ayre?



 Only one of those last three was a natural born US citizen... but he renounced his citizenship.  Not that a minor detail like that would stand in CSW's way.  For all we know, he may have proof that he penned the original US Constitution or failing that holds several patents on it.
2632  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2020, 09:55:57 PM

 Obviously so you can see that he's not wearing a mask. 
I hope the 3 perps were socially distancing during the alleged hacking.
2633  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2020, 04:44:29 PM
He seems to have lived his life on his own terms.  That alone deserves respect.

Too bad he gave up on reality and started drinking the Kool-Aid. Happens to a lot of successful people, they think that just because they are successful at one thing they are experts in everything.



 The reality is that many people successful or not don't like being told what to do regardless of the consequence.  I don't think there is any new Kool-Aid involved wrt the mask.  Sure, the science is out; the science is out on many things which we also ignore on a daily basis without any consideration.  Speeding, smoking, drinking alcohol, using drugs, unprotected sex, going to the Moon/Mars and not wearing your seat belt...  Some people are more inclined to take risks than others.
 
 I'm not going to condemn the man based on that one thing - it was his choice.  Maybe his death will serve as the motivation for others who are on the fence about wearing a mask to put one on; especially those who are in the "more susceptible" categories.

2634  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2020, 03:11:35 AM
Herman Cain dies of Corona.

I gotta say I find this Highly amusing! Grin

Death - not really that amusing IMO. Bad candidate for Darwin Awards too since he had already procreated.

 He seems to have lived his life on his own terms.  That alone deserves respect.



 
2635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 31, 2020, 02:11:19 AM
oh boy...
2636  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020? on: July 30, 2020, 07:40:05 PM
This one:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79/
https://blockchain.info/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79

Can we do anything here to expedite/accelerate this shameful low fee transaction or at best just try ViaBTC and also rely on toxigon as well?

Any ideas will be highly welcomed and tipped as well if necessary.

 It's not going anywhere until this parent tx confirms

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/18713aa33cc1602b6487e791601cc27a6d7fa5c4641a880ceecf0749f93e27e3/

 Sure it's a valid transaction but you can't spend what you don't yet have. (nor should you try)
 
 and miners might not pick it up because of this double spend attempt

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/e67f526021a19e67b426476128c539812c86435dc9af46b53f2b9481bf7112a8/

 You or someone else is trying to scam you or someone else I think.

 tips here: 36EEHh9ME3kU7AZ3rUxBCyKR5FhR3RbqVo <--wikileaks



 



I didn't know there were these types of bitcoin scams , I have been scammed from a ebay buyer with a zero feedback

 If you wait for just one confirmation it becomes infinitely harder to be scammed.

 edit: also, use escrow
2637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: July 30, 2020, 07:34:52 PM
https://www.epsilontheory.com/the-grifters-chapter-1-kodak/

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They’re. Not. Even. Pretending. Anymore.

Who is “they”?

On the corporate-grift side, it’s Kodak Chairman and CEO Jim Continenza (SEC CIK 0001197594), who picked up about 3 million shares and cheap options over the past year. It’s Kodak board member George Karfunkel (SEC CIK 0001085765), of the private equity and banking Zyskind-Karfunkel family, with his 6.4 million shares. It’s Kodak board member Philippe Katz (SEC CIK 0001579836), who owns about 4.3 million shares through at least five shell companies.

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Who is “they”?

On the government-grift side, it’s Donald Trump, who gets a press conference and a talking point.

It’s Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who sit on the DFC board of directors and approved this deal, each pocketing a favor.

It’s Larry Kudlow, University of Rochester alum and friend of Kodak, who pockets a BIG favor.

It’s Adam Boehler, 41 year-old CEO of the DFC, who cements a lucrative career once his government “service” is complete.


etc good stuff

 I'm surprised that 600watt isn't named there.  His opsec must be spot on.
2638  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Any way to accelerate this transaction from 2020? on: July 30, 2020, 06:35:07 PM
This one:

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79/
https://blockchain.info/tx/764bfe80e0760a36be2c93df8b706e049c9823de8664569cf43c2e696cc01b79

Can we do anything here to expedite/accelerate this shameful low fee transaction or at best just try ViaBTC and also rely on toxigon as well?

Any ideas will be highly welcomed and tipped as well if necessary.

 It's not going anywhere until this parent tx confirms

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/18713aa33cc1602b6487e791601cc27a6d7fa5c4641a880ceecf0749f93e27e3/

 Sure it's a valid transaction but you can't spend what you don't yet have. (nor should you try)
 
 and miners might not pick it up because of this double spend attempt

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/tx/e67f526021a19e67b426476128c539812c86435dc9af46b53f2b9481bf7112a8/

 You or someone else is trying to scam you or someone else I think.

 tips here: 36EEHh9ME3kU7AZ3rUxBCyKR5FhR3RbqVo <--wikileaks



 

2639  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW? on: July 30, 2020, 02:31:25 PM
I've been listening to Durand Jones & the Indications. They have a throwback sound even though they're pretty new.
https://youtu.be/hIHxDxTcuDk

 Nice clean sound.
 If I hadn't seen the guy singing that song, I would have sworn it was a woman's voice.
2640  Other / Off-topic / Re: What are you listening to RIGHT NOW? on: July 30, 2020, 02:27:04 PM
the radio  Grin

 Tuned to a station or do you just like the static?
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