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2641  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: November 27, 2020, 05:04:47 PM
I will soon give link to a web validation workflow for people with bad pc/internet, or for people who don't have pc at all, so they can do validation on my shared node. I am hostin shared node on vps with 2 cores 4gb ram, it should be enough for 50 people.

I kinda missed the moment when it was introduced. Do i get this right? I can run a single node on cheap VPS and allow all my family and friends to use it to validate and mine? Is it safe for both sites (node owner and node users?). Isn't it step forward centralization? If 1 node owner have 50 votes?
2642  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The viability of Trading Bots. on: November 27, 2020, 03:42:31 PM
Hmm... this study will not prove anything without control sample since 100% of your bot performance depends on strategy you feed him. It is simple recreating the strategy but much faster, better, 24/7, 0 emotions. It must be better that manual trading with same strategy. If strategy is bad, performance will be bad, conclusion will be - bots doesn't work. Maybe you should think about going something like - 1 month manual and automatic trading comparison.

I am still studying these kind of bots and planning to buy some but still collecting and researching which the best bots are suited for me since trading bots have different styles.

As mikeywith said - its the best to do your bot by yourself and feed it with the best strategy you have.

if you are very good with python or any other programming language - you can bypass tradingview and write everything from scratch, run the code on VPS and let it do the work.

Try it. First program in python that I made was trading bot and it started to earn starting from day 1 giving me extra motivation to carry on with it. Now trading bots are my main income. Before python I had basics in c++ and java but it was elementary school knowledge level.

Can you give me advice on wash volume on exchanges and how they affect trading bots, please.

I know it is a stupid question and if I know one exchange is a wash volume exchange, I would not use bots for trading on that. On some small exchanges, bots for wash volume are easily to be detected by eyes. I only don't know how you can control it on real environments for your tradings.

If your bot does not use volume as indicator than wash volume does not affect your bot. If it use volume than you can get this data from other exchange.

Another suspicious question is how fast or low the signal from your bot to exchange can affect the trading results?

Thank you.

Depends on strategy. If bot is scalping on binance that it would be good to run it on vps located close to binance to avoid up to 500 ms ping. If its trading on 4h candles than this 500 ms will not make much difference.


2643  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: November 27, 2020, 03:16:45 PM
Trading mining is actually a small bonus to you for trading operations on this exchange ,and it is certainly profitable if you are trading there or are going to do it ,but everyone decides for themselves whether they need it or not Wink

There are few bonuses. Some of the coins has volume mining, some of them market making some of them has both. Idena has market making bonus ... it means that you earn by leaving an open order as long as possible in mining range area. Idena is currently in top 5 most traded coins there and has x3 market making bonus - the only coin with such bonus. I hope it will boost liquidity there because despite 1 whale who is placing 0.25 - 1 BTC walls and guys filling his bag with taker orders there is one else.

I have read that, there is a point that we must first reach the 8k - 9k nodes and currently there are still around 4k more nodes connected, so that's only half of the target for sharding. I am sure that the validation date of December 1 will be able to reach more than 5k nodes. Hopefully everything is successful so that sharding can be realized soon.

Wrong. Sharding does not need 8k-9k nodes it will be added as soon as it will be finished. Network need sharding with 8k-9k nodes -> means it won't grow stable without sharding being that big. And sharding is currently in experimental stage, at least it was like that 2 weeks ago -

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Mahmoud, [10.11.20 11:24]
They said that it's on the researching phase

Mahmoud, [10.11.20 11:24]
and they are testing many small prototypes

https://t.me/idena_trading/29993
2644  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fraud of the Century? on: November 26, 2020, 06:08:02 PM
I think you are giving people too much credit, it is not rare at all for people now to think if they should enjoy something just because someone that they do not like it made it, people nowadays have problems separating the two, they do not understand that the work of a person is not the person itself, they can dislike a person and like what they do, for example I could strongly dislike someone but like the way they cook, and I think something similar could happen if the identity of satoshi was revealed and he was not some sort of saint.

Agree. But after observing this topic for some time, I noticed that most of the community either doesn't care or won't believe Craig no matter what evidence he presents. Thats why I think it will affect bitcoin price in LONG term. In short term we will have huge volatility, possibly a drop of several dozen percent but after a while price will continue to grow based on increased demand caused by another fiats doing hyperinflation, another bank crisis.
2645  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Fraud of the Century? on: November 26, 2020, 05:53:45 PM
Even if serial killer will announce in his will and prove that he is a satoshi, it will have no long term effect on BTC. Btc is not owned by satoshi, btc is not satoshi dependent, the foundations of btc do not change no matter who the satoshi is, even if a real satoshi will reveal itself along with strong evidence and say that he thinks bitcoin is going wrong direction, it doesn't mean anything (the community decides, not him). Just because he did BTC 10 years ago does not mean he is has infinite knowledge better than whole comunity who took care of bitcoin and developed bitcoin for over a decade, after satoshi left, turning it into digital gold.

I don't care who real satoshi is. I doubt it's Craig but even if ... it will not affect bitcoin in long term.
2646  Local / Polski / Re: [Konkurs] Wytypuj cenę BTC <EDYCJA II> na koniec roku 2020 on: November 26, 2020, 05:40:13 PM
Takie małe porównanie. Chciałem zobaczyć jak zmieniły sie nasze nastroje po 17 miesiącach. Oba konkursy są bardzo podobne bo poprzedni zorganizowany został po pompie z 3600 na 8800 (+140%) a obecny po pompie z 10000 na 18000 (+80%). Tak więc do konkretów:


Jak widać organizator konkursu jak był naszym naczelnym niedźwiedziem tak nim pozostał, choć już troszkę łagodniejszym Smiley wwzsocki i cygan z super byków na umiarkowanych byków, malevolent z umiarkowanego byka na   misia uszatka, a ja bez zmian mimo 17 miesięcy bez przerwy na rynku.
2647  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Snipie's gambling investment test on: November 26, 2020, 05:13:44 PM
I closed my doge investment yesterday before BTC dump. I made like +6% in DOGE in 6 months while doge dropped 25% (so - 19% in total - considering BTC investment). Casino performance was way worse than i calcuated based by old investors return. This confirms the basic principle of investors - historical performance are not a guarantee of future returns.

Why i did it now, at the bottom of the doge and the bottom of investors stats chart? I do belive that BTC pump is a the time when many cards are revealed. Its the moment when exit scams are the most profitable. The moment in which the fractional reserve system is crashing (f.e. if yolodice was hacked before and they didn't announce it and keep working). This extra risk, together with weak casino volume last weeks (low returns)
prompted me to close the investment.
2648  Economy / Speculation / Re: SEC clarifies Bitcoin is not securities and regulations in 2021 on: November 22, 2020, 05:59:32 PM
"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's Superman!"

Look at bitcoin .. it's a security! It's a money! it's .... no! it's fk.ing cryptocurrency! government should stop fitting completely new thing into old containers. Its separately new thing that need new container - called cryptocurrency. It's like when first car was invented and people would try to classify it - hmm is it a chaise? locomotive? no! its a car.

Next time SEC will announce that bitcoin is not a donkey so happily it does not need oat?
2649  Economy / Economics / Re: Cryptocurrency is poor men Lower class wall street on: November 22, 2020, 02:14:54 PM
So is the cryptocurrency is poor men the lower class wall street?

But I like that Smiley

Nah... this is wall street:



Where certain rules are imposed that do not apply to everyone. Where big banks cheats, get financial penalties, which they accept and continue cheating, because the profit exceeds the penalty.

https://www.dw.com/en/deutsche-banks-5-biggest-scandals/a-46510219
http://ig-legacy.ft.com/content/23fa681c-fe73-11e4-be9f-00144feabdc0#slide0

Crypto has same rules for everyone - no rules.
2650  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Not me While Most of Them Feeling Relax in this Scenerio on: November 22, 2020, 10:04:40 AM
There is a correction that's happening. Bitcoin is likely to go back to $17k although it's recent price drop did $18,300.

Its likely to go back to 12-14k. Current pump is insacne. +76% in 45 days ... +391% in 253 days... Fear/gread indeks is super high:



I'm not relaxed just like OP. I'm prepearing for a massive correction ... such big that people will lose their shoes and the media will once again (341'th time) announce the death of Bitcoin. Something like that. Maybe even breaking green line with second wave.



After shaking all the fast money dreamers, bitcoin will be back on grow track.
2651  Economy / Economics / Re: Jobless for 10 years still doing great because Jobs market is a joke on: November 22, 2020, 09:56:10 AM
10 years. Pretty good achievement. I'll celebrate my 3 years jobless in about 5 weeks:) Trading, investing, algo trading, mining, supporting projects, advertising and many more activities and I'm doing better than i would do without quitting my job. It is possible, but we should not forget about self-improvement in case this market will f.k up in next few years. Be sure to always have alterantive in your life.

2652  Local / Polski / Re: [Konkurs] Wytypuj cenę BTC <EDYCJA II> na koniec roku 2020 on: November 22, 2020, 07:39:42 AM
Witajcie i klękajcie bo przyszedł własnie własciciel pasa mistrzoskiego z poprzedniego konkursu Smiley

To ja polece skrajnie ... obstawiam 15 520.16 $. Moim zdaniem lada dzień, dwa udeży nas czerwone dildo i to takie, że ludziom kapcie spadną.

Obstawiam gdzies taki scenariusz, może nawet przebicie zielonej lini druga falą spadkową, no a potem dalsze wzrosty.




+76% w 45 dni ... +391% w 253 dni... Chciwość na maksa. Jak tu można obstawiać dalszą pompę. Wszystko wskazuje na solidne odreagowanie. Ale oczywiście wszystko możliwe, szczytu bańki nikt nie przewidzi, a tu zdecydowanie mówimy o mini bańce.

A media, szerząc zidiocenie, co zwykły praktykować, przypiszą spadek wyprzedażą przedświąteczną, by kupić prezenty i zorganizować święta XD Drugą stroną medalu przyjmą media, które jak zawsze zaczną wieszczyć śmierć bitcoina ... no końcówka roku moim zdaniem będzie zabawna.
2653  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: IF users data can be sold in crypto space we aren't practising decentralized on: November 21, 2020, 03:08:36 PM
In the world we are in today I heard it's possible to sell almost anything online, I'm talking about things like users data and informations but the reason why Satoshi created bitcoin is for escaping the puppet masters ( government control) over humans and that's why we have decentralization, but how many projects are practicing full decentralization today?

If our data can be sold or given out to other entities should be stay out of KYC verifications? This isn't why crypto and bitcoin was created, government shouldn't be involved, don't you think?

Great topic that covers everything that was and will be said here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221497

KYC is a thread that we ... community ... should avoid like fire. Simply - you do ICO with KYC - you have 0 raised. You force KYC while opening exchange account, you have 0 custommers.

And qoute from me about KYC data price on darknet:

~50$ - that's how much you need to pay for KYC photos on darknet.
~100$ - that's how much you need to pay for credit card that is registered on random guy.

Also ICOs scammers has thousands of ID from their KYC that they demanded from their clients. Sometimes i think that this is a main income from today's ICOs. You get 1000 bounty hunters that perform KYC to get reward and you have 50 000$ from darknet. You don't need to sell even a single token during ICO.

Any restrictions will only makes things harder for honest guys. Scammers will always find a way to scam.

And actual data right from darknet:

I will not share darknet market links here because i don't know if its not against BTT (and personally i don't want to promote that) rules but i can link you this article to prove that I didn't made it up:
https://www.ccn.com/hacked-customer-data-from-world-leading-cryptocurrency-exchanges-for-sale-on-the-dark-web/

And photo of random vendor selling KYC data:


And if some may think that exchanges need photo with you holding a piece of paper with date than you need to know that 100$ is enough for fake ID.



So as I already said. Any restrictions will only disturb honest users. Every KYC, every coin holding if they are tailed with scam etc. Scammers will always find a way to scam and wash dirty money.

Scammers have fake IDs, KYC data, they sell OTC - P2P, they spread it through dozen of exchanges and cantors they may even use it to pay for signature campaigns for they current business (casino, exchange). It is possible that your address is already tailed. It is possible that they have their own exchange.
2654  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between BTC/USDT and BTC/USD on: November 21, 2020, 01:42:55 PM
Anyone who thinks that had better double and triple check down their local tax office. In the US and UK at least there is absolutely no difference between moving into USD or USDT. Both are classed as a disposal.

I'll bet there are thousands upon thousands of traders who have unknowingly run up humongous tax bills believing they're somehow immune because it's crypto. Not so. Hopefully they'll get away with it.

What about BTC/ETH trade? Why is it different if they both are crypto/crypto. US and UK crypto law is fucked up Smiley

In my country it is like - if you bought crypto for a fiat currency or good (e.g. you sold a washing machine for BTC) in a given accounting year, you enter it as a cost during the settlement. If you have sold for fiat or good currency (e.g. you bought a washing machine with bitcoin) then you give it as profit. Then you pay tax on profit (difference of these values). Its great because if you minted, get from airdrop or whatever you don't need to do anything ... just report it while selling to fiats as income.

But its like that starting from 2019. In 2017 for instance we had to pay 1% TAX (Tax on Civil Law Activities) from each trade and fill sepeare form for that. You bought BTC for USDT (1% tax), ETh for BTC (1% tax), sold ETH for USDT (1% tax). Imagine if you did not through about that and you were daytrader or scalper that day getting 0.2-1% from each trade and paying 2% in taxes (-1% net profit from each trade). Insane.
2655  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Difference between BTC/USDT and BTC/USD on: November 20, 2020, 07:02:58 PM
Thanks for your reply.

Why do you think that some brokers does not have BTC/USD? For example, Binance. They have BTC/USDT and BTC/USDC but not BTC/USD.

in order not to worry about meeting a series of strict guidelines that would have to be met while maintaining a legal tender. It is also preferable by many traders to not have to worry about reporting each transaction to the tax office for tax purposes. BTC/USDT is crypto/crypto transaction not crypto/Legal tender so potential profit / loss in many jurisdictions is not subject to taxation.
2656  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Any Bitcoin broker that allows hedging + leverage? on: November 20, 2020, 06:56:26 PM
I'm always interested ... what for? Why open long and short at the same time if they both collectively zero in terms of exposure to price change. Binance should have it ... they have everything, so they should have it too. You can always open long/short on binance margin (up to 10x) and short/long on binance futures (up to x125) if its impossible to do it on margin/futures only.
2657  Local / Tablica ogłoszeń / Re: FlyingAtom - Wypłaty z bankomatów , mała marża - bezawaryjne. on: November 20, 2020, 03:45:58 PM
Często używam i zawsze jestem zadowolony. Mam tylko jedno pytanko. Planujecie może dodać możliwość wypłaty jakiejkolwiek innej kryptowaluty? Coś szybkiego i taniego, bym nie musiał do każdej wypłaty dodawać 5-50zł dla górników? Może być nawet jakiś stable coin (jeśli nie chcecie podejmowac ryzyka związanego z za dużą zmiennością altów), tylko nie na ETH, bo tez potrafi się zapchać do wysokich prowizji.
2658  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Idena is the first Proof-of-Person Blockchain on: November 20, 2020, 02:15:52 PM
We can say for sure that real people in the project are about two times less than active nodes now. As long as it is possible to have two nodes for one person, nothing will change.

No... we can't say that for sure because IDENA economy rewards you for high score which is impossible to get validating 2 nodes. It's better to have 1 good node than 2 shitty with high risk of failing validation on one of them. Majority of people that i've spoke has 1 node per 1 person. Some of them have few nodes but each of them is being validated by real life person (f.e friend/family member)

How many nodes are currently running right now?
I mean REAL nodes Grin Grin
We will see after validation ceremony. From what i've seen this detected farm is far less than 700 nodes (more like 400-500) but it can be not the only one.

What really happend (by @ozh_v):

https://t.me/idena_trading/31585
2659  Other / Archival / Re: Atlant projekt wart uwagi. on: November 19, 2020, 08:54:42 PM
Opisz 5 przykładów róznych kategori tokenów o swojej marce i osobnej wycenie (czyli nie stable coiny)...

Tak jak pisałem, po części się z Tobą zgadzam i przykładem, jaki chciałem podać, miał być oczywiście stablecoin GOLD, ale ubiegłeś mnie  Wink.

Niestety podstawą każdego projektu jest token, który daje mozliwość korzystania z EVM i dobrodziejstw smart kontraktów.

Nie jestem programistą, więc nie będę się spierał czy mozliwe by było wykorzystanie możliwości ETH, bez użycia tokenó, ale jak na razie nie ma takiego projektu, więc to chyba nie możliwe?
Fakt. Troszkę edytowałem post. Zarówno ułatwiając zadanie (5 zamiast 10) jak i utrudniając (o cenie ustalanej przez rynek - bez stable coinów).

Otóż były smart kontrakt, który funkcjonowal, był liderem branży pod względem liczby klientów i był bez tokenów. Była to etherdelta/forkdelta - smart kontrakt na ETH bez tokenu z ktorego kożystalismy latami, uniswap wystartował token razem z airdropem po tym jak od miesięcy funkcjonował bez tokenu jako nowy lider DEXów (airdrop był na użytkowników), podobnie jak giełda IDEX przed wypuszczeniem tokena - jeden z liderów DEXów przed uniswapem (co ciekawe wypuścili token jak już było wiadomo, że mówią papa klękając przed nową technologią - AMM - by nahapać się przed dobranoc)... podobnie jak obecnie dex https://1inch.exchange/#/, który tokena nie posiada a jest smart kontraktem.
2660  Other / Archival / Re: Atlant projekt wart uwagi. on: November 19, 2020, 06:43:43 AM
Nie wydali tylko ETH, który dzięki zmianie kursu ciągle napełnia skarpetę projektu, ale zebrali jeszcze BTC, LTC i chyba ze dwie inne mniejsze krypto Monero i Dash, które przez te lata wydali na development. Jednak prawidłowe decyzje CEO pozwoliły utrzymać praktycznie cały ETH, który poszedł w ostatnich miesiącach 6X nabijając kasę ATL. Pewnie teraz upłynnią jakąś część, ale decyzja była, jak najbardziej trafna, w najgorszym przypadku pozwoli sfinasować projekt na następne lata.

Zwracam honor. Powstanie ATL było w takim wypadku konieczne, skoro używali środków, które zebrali. Dodam jednak tylko to, że moim zdaniem rynek poszedł w zła stronę na siłę budując użyteczności tokena kosztem klienta konćowego. Nie każdy kto chciałby używać platwormę chce bawić się w hazardzistę. Moim zdaniem wypuszczenie tokena to zebranie środków na podstawie których powinno budować się użyteczności a z zysku robić buybacki (w ten sposób zadawalając klienta mnogością możliwych płatności i jednocześnie budujac długoterminową wartość). Inwestowanie pozostawmy inwestorom. Im szybciej developerzy to zrozumieją tym szybciej zobaczymy prawdziwą eksplozję nowych użyteczności.

Co do wywodu o tokench i ich przydatności, to po części się z Tobą zgodzę, ale tylko po części, bo bez nich nie było by takich wspaniałych  Wink produktów, jak YieldFarming, całe DeFi, czy wszystko inne co jeszcze przed nami  Grin Grin Grin . Pamiętaj, że ETH został właśnie do tego wymyślony i dokładnie służy swojemu przeznaczeniu.

Scamówi i piramid finansowych XD
Opisz 5 przykładów róznych kategori tokenów o swojej marce i osobnej wycenie (czyli nie stable coiny), których istnienie jest uzasadnione ekonomicznie poza zebraniem środków (crowdfunding). Jedyne uzasadnienie ma powstanie pierwszego tokena na nowym blockchainie (coin), bo musi być jakaś jednostka rozliczniowa motywująca minerów do kopania. Choć wyobrażam sobie nawet zrobienie nowego blockchaina bez coina jako nowej marki pod nową nazwą a np. zwrapowanego BTC.

Po prostu dążę do tego, że token sam w sobie nie ma i nie tworzy użyteczności. Jest całkowicie pomijalny w każdym aspekcie. Służy tylko do zebrania środków. Jesli jakaś firma wypuszcza nowy token, a ma już obecny to:
1- zabrakło jej kasy
2- widzi, że da się nahapać więcej i nigdy nie miala dobrych zamiarów
3- ma jakies niecne zamiary (KYC)
4- ma nadzieje na wskrzeszenie projektu (a raczej ceny) nowym hypem - wie, że nikt nie używa uzyteczności jaką stworzyła i chce sztucznie podbic cenę by zdumpować to co mają. Chcą zarobić na inwestorach bo wiedzą, że nie zarobią na usadysfakcjonowanych klientach, a nie dlatego, że nowa użyteczność wymaga nowego tokenu do istniania bo jak .... używać 1 waluty do 2 użyteczności ... absurd... już idę do apteki zapłacić aPLNami a potem do bierdonki zapłacić bPLNami, wracając jeszcze zatankuję płacąc BP-PLN i umyję auto na tej samej stacji używając uBP-PLN. W między czasie użyję 7 razy PLNswapa i po drodze stracę 10 % środków na prowizje ... to norma... tak powinno być ... rewolucyjna ekonomia... normiki nie zrozumieją.

Idziemy w złą stronę, ale wolny rynek zweryfikuje za parę lat sytuację. Z utility tokenów zostaną stable coiny, rozrośnie się wielobilionowy rynek tokenów inwestycyjnych (zbieram środki a potem z zysku robię buybacki) a obecne 10 000 unitility tokenów albo się przekształci albo umrze.

No ... może takie google może wypuścić swój token, bo używać go będzie tyle osób, że powstały rynek będzie tak ogromny, że manipulacje cenowę będą bardzo trudne a zmienność niewielka. Ale to trzeba mieć globalną markę a nie 0 klienów i szukać pierwszego zmuszając go do zakupu nieznanego tokena.
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