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Ask them to proof if any of the bounty hunter has posted anything against the Project. All the bounty hunters always write in the favor of the project on the social media. They are only using lame excuses to not to pay the participants. But if the bounty hunters unite and report their telegram, twitter handle and post about their reality, im sure they will get a dent in their progress.
There are no point asking them about it. I have watched the AMA last night, I had to fast-forward it all the time. All I was able to see that there was only one user who talked about Lunaland has cheated with the hunters.  https://youtu.be/zTRgj5vwQ60?t=1112By the way, they are already doxxed. Now the latest is on the telegram he is questioning my way of work, and he is trying to blame me that I did not do my job properly etc. I requested him not to message me again, but he continued. So he is blocked from there. If he has anything to say, then he will need to say it here. |
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Holding the tokens by the bounty manager (when he is highly trusted) or by a trusted escrow before launching the campaign is the best solution for this type of situation in my opinion. I do not see any other better solution. If any other manager have a better solution, then I would love to hear it. When holding the tokens by the manager/escrow, we need to give the project team the condition that they will need to send the ETH/BNB whichever it needs to distribute the token to the hunters at the time of distribution. Or manager will take action against them and even can tag the project. In the case of a failed project, we may see that the team will not contact or response the manager to send the fees. Since the token are dead, they may stay in manager or escrow's wallet, or they can just burn it. In the case of a successful project and the token price are significant, then the manager or escrow can sell some tokens to cover the tx fee for distribution. All managers need to practice this, in fact make it a common policy for all. If a manager do not take the tokens in their possession, then for any accident like this the manager will be liable. Lunaland is coming with more excuses to justify their scam now. I have advised them to continue here if they have anything to say. If any more messages come from them on my Telegram then I will just block them. By the way, I would request everyone to report their social channels so that those platforms take down the channels. The public announcement on their telegram was this : https://t.me/lunalanddotio/53686🚨❗️Bounty Announcements - Bounties Voided ❗️🚨
This is an announcement that the Royce bounty has been voided due to the horrible behaviour of some of the participants while they were waiting for our project to finalise calculations of the bounty distribution.
The members have hurled abuse towards me personally and the project while we were in process of calculating distributions for the bounty.
This bounty has faced significant issues while it was running during our presale, with many bounty hunters trying to cheat the rules to get a free allocation of tokens for no work.
We have tried to check and verify the work, but this has also proved difficult due to lack of proofs provided or the way the bounty was managed.
I wanted to be fair and allocate tokens for those that did the work fairly, but given that the situation has not gotten out of hand, I am voiding the bounty as per the rules of the bounty that the management of the project has final say. To me, their final post was: I have made the decision that due to the repeated verbal abuse by the bounty members against the project and against me personally that none of them will be paid on principle. I am neither afraid of you or any of your bounty members. On principle they will not be paid for the horrible shit they have said against the project. I dont have unlimited time to check bounty stakes and pull our cheaters who comprise probably 80% of the bounty. Hence the delay, but due to these actions of these individuals none will be paid. Bounty has been voided as per the clause of management in the bounty rules. Last night I saw the video of the AMA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTRgj5vwQ60One hunter was asking about the bounty and telling them negative post in one comment. |
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There is an ongoing scam accusation against Lunaland. Please visit.. If they can scam their bounty hunters, then they can scam their investors too. So please be careful and do your own due diligence before investing with a project who had history of breaking a deal. |
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I have a question (forgive me, I have no experience in bounty management). Can't those guys first get the tokens into a trusted escrow before the bounty campaign begins?
It's completely legit question. Yes they can of course, but think from their side from the side of a genuine team. For them, the token worth a lot. They have no idea how the community operates. Who are trusted members. Anyone with forum experience knows who to trust, but for a newbie it's totally a different place. Remember the topic about Small Rabbit? I had some explanation there: A 10 month old Member account has no value. He had no reputation, I don't know how he got someone to hand over $25,000 ( or how much was it?). It just shows how dumb the entire bounty-scene is, and how much money they all "earn" out of hyping BS. Even I find it hard to convince a project team to escrow the tokens sometimes. For example, in one of my campaign ( Koinomo) yesterday it took me long chat to convince the team to send the coins to me which worth $100k according to their presale price. Still they want me to lock the tokens (how it's done I don't know much, but they will show me how maybe today) though. It just shows how dumb the entire bounty-scene is, and how much money they all "earn" out of hyping BS. When a project representative comes to a bounty manager, most of the time they basically have no idea how the community works. All they see is a good ANN thread, portfolio, management service charge if this is lesser than others. Very few guys take their time and investigate the person they are dealing with. Most of the time it requires long conversation to show them the differences you (as a manager) have than other guys. Lately, I am in fact putting pressure to teams to send tokens in my possessions. Most of the time, it just does not work the way you want, by the way. I may talk to other campaign managers that we need to have a common practice, which is to ask project teams to send the tokens to us before starting a campaign. A manager must ensure that the tokens are in his possession or someone highly trusted on the forum is holding the tokens. Here, another concern will be what if the team do not pay the escrow the fees to distribute the tokens? In this case, my suggestion will be: 1. If the token price worth good money then the escrow will sell some tokens to cover the fees and rest will be distributed to the hunters 2. If the token price do not worth anything, then the tokens are just burned I guess. |
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I have exported the chat history. If anyone wants to see the exported data of the entire chat history, then PM me or request me here for it. Only highly trusted members who have years of reputation on the forum can have the copy if they want. For privacy and other reasons, I am not going to open it up in public. The last response to me from Lunaland team: Dusko {Won’t DM first}, [28.08.21 20:27]
I have made the decision that due to the repeated verbal abuse by the bounty members against the project and against me personally that none of them will be paid on principle. I am neither afraid of you or any of your bounty members. On principle they will not be paid for the horrible shit they have said against the project. I don’t have unlimited time to check bounty stakes and pull our cheaters who comprise probably 80% of the bounty. Hence the delay, but due to these actions of these individuals none will be paid. Bounty has been voided as per the clause of management in the bounty rules. Latest chat screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/A8rFpg5tl;dr; From 4th August since I have given them the final sheet they were making accusations after accusations. Until today, I was considering them somehow valid, but after the last message it's clear that all of it were excuses. They were doing it to find a way, to convince me that the hunters are in fault here, and they do not want to pay the hunters. Their first accusation: The bounty campaign did not make them money, so they will reduce the allocation. In their word, Dusko {Won’t DM first}, [04.08.21 13:54]
ok will check and then advise you once I have checked. I aim to pay out by tomorrow, but will need to let you know that allocation is going to be less than 1.5 Million
Dusko {Won’t DM first}, [04.08.21 13:54]
I need to do the calculations how much the campaign helped us raise presale, and also now our price has increased significantly so need to recalculate total token pool After my disagreement, I suggested them to review the works and let the good hunters to pay. They agreed. Their 2nd accusation: The hunters will dump their token/project. I said to them that the hunters need to get paid, and I explained why they need to get paid. Lunaland team agreed that they will review the work and let me know on the next day (August 10th). August 13th I asked for update, they wanted more time. August 14th I asked for update, they wanted more time. The excuse was that they are too busy with the project, and that made sense to me. We had some price movement chat about their project, and they wanted time until the end of the week. August 17th, we had some other chat and promised me that they will work out final allocation after checking the sheet. August 22nd, after asking them about the progress they asked me a lot of question about how to check the reports and our conversation ended with giving them instructions. We continued conversation ... I was putting pressure August 27th pressure increases and they were due to done reviewing by that day. In the meantime, with many more accusations Their 3rd accusation: On their last AMA the hunters accused their project of being a scam…From 28th morning (today) I was chasing them until I got the reply that I quoted at the starting of the topic. And finally, when I am working on creating this topic they have more to say: You obviously don’t know your own rules of your bounty. We get the final say and based on how you’ve handled your bounty hunters I’m not surprised that the bounty was abysmal. Do what you have to do and be quick about it and stop wasting my time It's pointless to reply there. ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346079.0User: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3347616Project: https://www.lunaland.io/Socials: https://www.facebook.com/LunaLand-104535581879219/https://twitter.com/IoLunalandhttps://t.me/lunalanddotiohttps://www.instagram.com/lunaland.io/https://www.reddit.com/r/Lunaland/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPfFZksXwohPMzE7OyZiKRghttps://discord.gg/HakqTNyTdUScammed amount: 1,500,000 LLN
In current market price $0.052935*1,500,000= $79,402.50Screenshot: https://imgur.com/a/tzbABCqLive price chart: https://www.livecoinwatch.com/price/LunaLand-LLNThe project team is clearly a scammers, the same goes with the project.I am going to tag their account and going to update here with the flag. |
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Turns out the user cheated in one of the campaign I am managing, spreadsheet - Telegram. Unfortunately, they even got overpaid :-( Anyway, they are blacklisted from my list after this. I'm a little curious what's up with them, did something/cheat or something else. The project sent tokens to the hunters, but somehow they messed up and sent wrong amounts to hunters and some did not even get paid. So I was working on it to find users who did not get paid or got less payments. SpeadsheetWhile working, these three addresses struck me as they were receiving other tokens too in the same fashion and the tx times were very similar too. I have no idea why but it was looking unusual to me. |
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Of course bounty hunters are near useless as far as ICO promotion goes -- that's not a secret.
On the other day I had a discussion with one of the team, and it seems the market has a confusion that when a project success all credits go not bounty hunters. It's totally wrong. Bounty is only a small part of a project to be successful among x number of factors it needs. Yes, there are spammers and ignorant participants (I will call them disrespectful users to their work, bad names in the industry) but there are good guys too. They do work well. If bounty was entirely useless, then projects would not spend money. Let me share that I have experienced from several campaigns I managed so far: After launching the campaign and before ending (usually presale or public sale) it, the teams will say very positive things about the campaign that it's going very well, they are happy, supper happy etc. But after the sale: a) They will just pay the hunters, despite they had a successful presale or not. In fact, they push hard to get the spreadsheet so that they can pay the hunters and focus on their work. These are the people who are committed to their project and respect other's work. b) They will start making excuses, start delaying or start blaming the quality of the jobs done by the hunters even after a successful sale. Their excuses are like this: - I do not want to pay the low effort works, let us reduce the allocation. The allocation is too much. Did you see how the price spiked? - If I pay the hunters, then they will dump my tokens. - Your campaign was not good. It did not help my project. We(project team) have done all the hard work. Etc. etc. Noticed the same guy was saying good things about the campaign before the sale but after, ironically, all started to go wrong. Let's see the agreement you had with the team. Token Distribution Starts: Two weeks after the bounty ends.
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I gave my all to get the hunters paid but nothing worked unfortunately, and now it's clear that they scammed 400 BNB from the investors too since I do not see they will have any real development.
I have edited the scam accusation topic against Dogeporn.finance with latest contents to avoid confusion. Anyone is more than welcome to continue on that thread if they want. |
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The below screenshot was retrieve from dogeporn official website, they indicated that DXsale was successfully sold out and was able to raise 400bnb, i wonder whats there excuse was for been incompetent with the project development.
Thanks for posting it. I was not aware about it at all. I thought they had a total failed ICO. After seeing your post, I asked the guy in contact with me. Turns out they indeed raised 400 BNB. And in this case, I want my hunters to get paid. I have left them a message with options. If they do not accept it or agree with it, then I will mark this as a scam project. Maybe I will give them 24 hours time from now. The conversation: https://imgur.com/a/Huwhz9cMy final response so far to them: I think my hunters should get paid of whatever tokens they were promised. Let them decide what they want to do with their tokens. If they do not worth anything then it's their things to sort out. If they want to hold it let them hold it. If they want to abandoned the private key then let them be. Saying only Wen launch sir Thats it Well there are good and bad guys. Those who did good work they should get paid even if it's only one person (hypothetically) from all. I thought you did not raise anything at all that is why other day I felt bad but since you were able to raise some money (does not matter whatever it is), my hunters should get paid. Please pay them all, at least pay those who have done good work. If you want to crosscheck the work then feel free to do that and give me specific reason for the individual who you think should not get paid. I will recheck and if I agree with you then I may reduce or remove tokens from those individuals but good workers must get paid by any means. Here is the spreadsheet again: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17v5M2tbePatVQSUEHHIgCseFYTqwkkPa_gwVW-hoK90/edit?usp=sharingPlease let me know your decision. |
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Search Engine robots need to be upgraded, especially Google adwords. Billion-dollar company, but they lack in basic? This is interesting to me. They should have reviewed the ads manually instead of using the useless robots. How on the earth it's not a scam by Google? Can anyone confirm me that it is really from Blockchain.com or a fake page when you visit the site.
- Surprisingly, that result doesn't show up when I search for those keywords on my end.I have also tried the same keyword. It did not show up to me also. Don't know what the reason either it's already stopped or Showing on other locations. Obviously, they are delivering the ads based on the interest history of the browser. |
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 https://logln.blockcnain.com.lnfo-setting-server.com/ I was searching for "bitcoin block number" an this is what I found as a Google ad. Usually I do not click on any kind of ads when I receive anything from Search Engine. I am too paranoid to click something that could cost me later. Obvious the main domain is: Can anyone confirm me that it is really from Blockchain.com or a fake page when you visit the site. PS: Please do not use a clean device when you will open the page. |
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Great!
We have 7 slots taken, prize is over 0.007 BTC, my favourite number is 7. I would love the block number 777777 ( :-) ) but let's be realistic. What I am saying is the hash of block number 697777 will be our winning hash! :-D
Good luck, Bttzed03, Harkorede, and the empty slot!
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