They were tweeted by an associate. Am aware they are in London, which is handy as so am I. Am happy to conduct interview in person right away if anyone is able to make contact. Please do check out new forum & we really do need a bit more carboncoin in percentage terms backing up our benevolent fund for this to be taken seriously. Still no transactions out of the donations wallet: http://carbonchain.info/address/LFsTe6yRk1TXuGGW6kKwG8L3N4pkx5b6Do, to any doubters

Saw that! Have set up a new thread at coinstack.org here http://coinstack.org/index.php?board=20.0

I am the admin of this, so trolls will be deleted. Aims to be a place for sharing ideas and tasks to make Carboncoin a reality. Please sign up for an account there and let's get this show on the road!

This currency is very nearly 2 months old. What rules are you referring to? We have a thread in announcements. Would you care to link me to these rules of which you speak. I am not trying to be impertinent, you have thus far been rather impolite.

ADD: It was suggested I move here from announcements.

Hi there, would you care to qualify that please? Move what to announcements exactly?

Coin voting set up at Comkort, great exchange, please vote here: https://comkort.com/vote#CARB

Thank you for this. When I started down the ecological route with this coin, feeling guilty about my own mining ops and the damage the energy they had been wasting was doing to the environment, I thought long and hard about doing a new launch of a new coin with my PoS specification. I decided on balance for it to be PoW to start with is actually not a bad thing and here's why: I want to get the mining community on board with this because it is essential that they are made exactly aware of the damage they are doing and, what I would really like, is for them to make enough money to stop mining PoW shitcoins for the sake of it, forevermore. If we have to take on the appearence of one of these short term to get our message across then this is a small price to pay. We will be forking to my PoS model when our share of participation of the mining community has reached a level where we will have a significant impact. These miners are largely going to be mining something anyway, and I am not afraid of taking responsibilty for some of that.

Starting out as a PoS model creates huge problems in terms of fair distribution, and starting out as a PoW model gets around this to a great extent, especially with a large amount of coins released at the beginning.

The fact of the matter is that with the sheer volume of mining rigs out there, on 24 hours a day running at several kW, what we have going on is an environmental disaster and we are in the middle of it. To say there are other larger polluters out there, and other worse problems, as some sort of justification for not doing anything about this is fucking lame for want of a stronger statement. Of course this is an emotive issue, and one I feel incredibly strongly about.

Please let it be reiterated again that Carboncoin projects are about supporting the environment and the planet, not about driving large corporation business with a way for further wastefulness to be justified. Let's say we are successful in our first phase of the project and get >1.2M trees planted, on land already found that we do not have to purchase - having planning for permanent forestry, can anyone here or otherwise please explain to me why, from an environmental perspective, this is a bad idea? This is rhetorical - I do not want to hear about "better" ideas. Keeping it as simple and middleman free as possible is the aim here; as well as supporting and encouraging nature which, given enough help, will repair the damage for us.

Climate change skeptics will be very vocally claiming that it isn't their fault if/when the icecaps melt. They will say "the planet got closer to the sun" or some such nonsense. I am not saying this couldn't happen, what I am saying is that it is unarguable that the human race is using resources and having a negative impact, while at the same time not doing enough to address the problem. Here is a means by which it can address this, without really levying a tax. Just imagine if the value that developed in the bitcoin had gone, not into the hands of the early adopers, but into an organisation which as directly and efficiently as possible helped and stimulated nature. Here's one for the climate change skeptics - what causes the pollution clouds we are seeing all over the world at the moment? Impossible to know, right? So we should probably just continue as we are then...

It is going to be extremely difficult to get miners to come around to the fact that switching off most of their machines, allowing some to contribute to transaction processing alone, is not only the right thing to do, it is really what must be done. Allowing those miners who hold onto some #carboncoin to end up being able to pay off their machines and make some profit cannot be a bad approach to to this.

Can I also say quite clearly that if the value of Carboncoin takes off and we have sufficient donations in the Carboncoin Donations Wallet we will end up offsetting far more than the footprint of cryptocurrencies alone. This will be done not through any sort of enforced taxation, but because of the value that develops in this coin once people understand what value in this coin will mean that we are able to achieve. The greater the amount of Carboncoin we have in the wallet, the more valuable this becomes as a concept and the more valuable Carboncoin will become. If you are holding a lot, please join myself, zebedee, ning and olly in contributing CARB to LFsTe6yRk1TXuGGW6kKwG8L3N4pkx5b6Do. If you add more than 5M CARB send a txid and we will add your name to the leaderboard when it is finished. I have a record of it. We currently have 44M in the wallet but it is important that this is donated, not premined and if we can get more, then we start to have an awesome thing here. At the moment this costs nothing, and what it might achieve is unbounded. If the community don't do this, then we have nothing here. You might even donate half your holdings on the proviso that if this pot gets big enough the value will more than double...

Greenwashing= taking on the pretence of environmentalism for financial gain. Carboncoin= putting capitalism to use for environmental gain. We have currently offset about 60x our carbon footprint in trees planted, this proportion is going to diminish as time goes on but the miners are going to mine, for now.

Thank you to everyone who is keeping up to date with the thread, appreciate there is a lot to digest. I am starting a new thread, on a different service, specifically for development and development tasks tomorrow, but will keep this active answering queries and addressing objections to the best of my ability. Will post url in due course.

I will just state that I will gladly respond to any interview requests, if anyone has any interest in balanced coverage.

AM

P.S. Drama not quite over by the looks of things. @Ken, stop trollfeeding whether as a pm or online please - there is no way to answer the objection that you have a young account which I could easily have set up myself, not only that but Spoetnik is likely to be anonymous and therefore even if he was doing something illegal it would be impossible to see him disciplined for it.  Fortunately hotmail has an exceptional sweep/spam filtration system and this is the only issue my friend will face at having that information disclosed, as Spoetnik says it is public information, which anyone can look up, and actually of no use to anyone. Incidentally these comments have given me some very useful things to think about. He correctly identified that we didn't use false information on registering the website because, wait for it, this is not a scam.

P.P.S. All hail Steve and your troll-trolling, that did make me giggle. That is exactly how annoyed I got last week at whatever his name was. I have sent Spoetnik a pm trying to engage in dialogue, he didn't respond to anything I wrote last time he came onto this thread. I am not convinced he is purely a troll, and I think he has probably flagged some genuine scammers. I am hoping I can try to answer his objections directly and get him to see what I am trying to achieve with this. add: he responded with "fuck off" - doesn't even require further comment.

Hi, thank you for your interest. The coin is the first completely carbon neutral scrypt coin, due to a starting plantation of 2300 native hardwood saplings in Hampshire, UK.

By making it such, we are attempting to handle the objection which it was felt prevented a good few people, who like the idea of disruptive currency but care about the environment, from taking it up in the first place. Through the forestry project first of all, and other projects to follow soon after, we aim to offset the whole footprint of crypto in as cost effective a way as is measurable and guaranteeable, through direct offset projects; not through existing channels which spend most of the money on administration costs.

The fiat cost of our offset is less than half that of conventional offset by weight of CO₂. On from there if we have spare Carboncoin left at the end of this process we will be spending it on research to then fund and stimulate permanent natural carbon sinks, and after that just keep on going. The focus is on carbon storage and environmental recovery, attempting to reverse damage done to the environment by humanity, rather than on clean energy technology which is already a vibrant hub of activity, and start up capital.

In terms of technology the coin is only PoW for now because it is felt it is necessary to get take up from the mining community, when that happens we will be looking at a fork to an innovative alternative form of PoS which I have specified, but will need help developing, in around 6 months time, subject to what happens from here.

We are setting up services to monitor the carbon footprint of different cryptocurrencies in as accurate a way as possible, and then giving them a means by which they can quantifiably offset their carbon footprints cost effectively and with cryptocurrencies, at the same time incentivising them to use Carboncoin to do so.

Hope that offers some clarity.

AM

Thank you, sent you a pm

Thank you. You're still coming on the next site visit!

Thank you for support both here and on twitter. Nice footnote!

Please let me know if that is sufficient or if you would like any more information from me. I think by coincidence your spacing suggestions are actually covered in the photographs. I would be happy to have a skype conversation with you if you wish, ahead of any donation.

Thank you

AM

Just to predict the troll, these images are taken with a very wide angle lense making the trees, actually over a metre apart and planted by professional foresters, seem closer together than they actually are. I am also informed by the landowner that the firm contracted for the planting have since returned to weed and stand up the ones which had toppled. Hope this is sufficent.

INCOMING

So in the absence of any objection or alternative suggestion it looks like we are going to go with something along the lines of Ning's suggestion for a rebrand. He is a professional designer and has offered to help incorporate the new branding into our existing web offering which is amazingly kind of him.

I had felt that the existing carboncoin design does not really reflect our current objectives, apart from the name, so this is a good thing to do ahead of any P.R. efforts.

I could do with someone mathematically capable to run over the figures here: http://carbon-co.in/carbon-footprint/ and here http://carbon-co.in/projects/ to ensure that our estimates are at least based on sound assumptions and workings. They are numbers calculated from sources online, including existing carbon offsetting services. It is essential that the mathematics here is at least able to stand up to some public scrutiny. For the purposes of this I am happy with high ball estimates for carbon emmissions, i.e. network hashrate and conservative estimates for carbon sequestration of fully grown trees, to ensure that whatever happens our impact is covered. This mathematics will be used directly in the calculations of the carbon footprints of all other currencies, so it is vital that they are correct.

If anyone has any sort of development experience and would like to help (even if it is anonymous, and out of the eyes of the skeptics) please contact me. We have got some fairly technical web development tasks to be done involving some back-end architecture which is beyond my current skill set and any help would greatly speed up the process.

Also if anyone has got the skills to launch a secure carboncoin marketplace, selling sustainably produced goods, please also get in touch. I have been contacted by people who will do it for money, so if you have the funds to donate please also get in touch.

It is actually getting to the point where to keep doing this full time I will need a bitcoin or two to spend on my living costs, so anyone wishing to support me in that way would bea tremendous help. To that end my BTC wallet hash, of course completely separate from the forest donation wallets is 14XqaKzqUa3hAC4g3dfcxudZmjur2Wpemi. Obviously, donations to the cause will stay untouched.

There are more tasks coming up all the time and if we get some more developers on board, this will become an unstoppable proposition very quickly. If you are an innovator and want to help us with the final fork then let me know too. I have the spec fully designed but it is going to take some cryptography genius to have it implemented as well as it needs to be.

@danonthehill, @jungle_dave, @ning thank you guys! @jungle_dave, link to the thread, I may or may not have some pent up aggression to expunge By all means let's have a chat, will pm you my skype a/c - very interested to hear about your operation.

@thread7 Thank you, the site is some hours away from where I live and costs some 40 pounds for me to get to. You are right I have got to address the photo business - I took lots of photos - I am by no means a photographer I warn you! I will put up all the other photos I took on the day now, just uploading to imgur. There are 25 or so.

AM

Great, thank you for again taking the time to air your views. Map containing grid refs, photographs taken by myself on site and the fact that I am still here, still taking the time might have pointed you in the right direction if you were, well, better. I have been very clear about my intentions from the beginning. You don't believe me, good for you. Go put your money in another coin and leave this alone.

To borrow your phrase for a moment, I don't see you contributing anything of value to anything I'm sorry to say, but if you do please by all means let me know about it so that I can have an opportunity to challenge your work with the same belligerent skepticism you have shown here. Perhaps you'd become frustrated at that if you believed in what you were doing, but who knows. Perhaps you are incapable of believing in anything.

I have encountered some amazing people on this project who do believe in what we are doing, and are helping the cause, and actually am glad that you won't be benefitting from any of the work we are doing, apart from the unavoidable benefit to everyone, which unfortunately it won't be possible to exclude you from.

You state from the off that you dont believe in carbon offset in general (?), so you come closed-mindedly onto a thread about a carbon offset project (?), throw doubts, accusations, generally spread FUD (?) - then you come back at first excuse to have another pop (?), and openly admit to being hateful (?). Can you see a theme emerging here? Perhaps it has been following you around for a while without you noticing...

If you are questioning the tree spacing you are questioning the photo, because that is the only evidence you could have of the tree spacing. Up-hill all the way with you isn't it. If you had bothered to actually keep up with this thread you'd see that I have provided evidence, including the location (just to prevent any recourse, I could not care less if you wish to dismantle this, you can find a way if you choose to - this is the real world, not the blockchain).

People on the forum put 70BTC into Stackcoin on far less information than I have provided here, but i didn't see you on there touting "scam", perhaps you were with one of your other accounts? Now, because of that, someone comes along actually having genuine positive intensions, and anyone who would otherwise have supported the project from the outset is frightened off, all because a few sorry individuals woke up on the wrong side of bed.

Until the time comes for planting saplings there is no more evidence to provide than the photographs of the site. What do you want, a soil sample? Maybe some sort of scratch and sniff? A dead twig? I know, I'll mail you an authentic Hampshire worm... just pop your address below.

In my world one's wishes are respected by one's children, because one brings them up properly. Sure, there is some possibility that some circumstance may lead to some portion of the trees not living to 100 years old and, in fact, all our calculations for offset on the website have now been reviewed and adjusted to reflect a much more realistic value for carbon offset per tree.

You are ignoring the larger objective here, this is not to be about simply planting forests, this is about funding the sequestering of carbon on as larger scale as funding will permit. All being well we will see an asset bubble in carbon sequestration - maybe finally we will see this technology bringing about an ecological answer to the industrial revolution. Nice of you to stand in the way of it, sure everyone you know is proud of you.

The defence is more to do with the fact that some utter waste of space came onto my thread and had the audacity to call me pathetic while at the same time offering no evidence of ever doing anything meaningful with his life whatsoever. That's not a cue for evidence by the way, no interest.

As I said before I'm done defending anything, and if you wouldn't mind, my time is better spent on things which are going to be of tangible benefit to the world we live in and this community. Continuing this discussion certainly isn't one of them.

If you think carbon offsetting is bull, do you think that humanity is damaging the environment? How do you think that problem is solved? Do you even think it can be solved or have you just resigned to have no planet for your great great grand kids? That is rhetoric by the way. I'll grant you a lot of the carbon offsetting industry is bull, as is any goodwill organisation which takes 60% in administration before it does what it is supposed to, and it is for this reason I have gone down the path I have with this.

The trees exist, the land has been disclosed. The images were legitimite. The fact that even after I took the time to explain to you that you can get no sense of horizontal perspective from taking a ground-level wide-angle photograph from close up, leaves me questioning your judgement yet again.

In the world I live in trust still exists, as does family-owned maintained permanent forestry which requires funding to be expanded in so doing, sequestering thousands of tonnes of Carbon Dioxide from the atmosphere.

If I even said "right whatever-your-name-is let's raise more money to buy land, plant trees and hire permanent staff to maintain it, as part of the charitable trust we are about to set up", you wouldn't come out in support and start fundraising would you, you'd just find something else and continue to be parasitic. What about if I said let's pursue other environmental projects which will sequester fully quantifiable amounts of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere? Still the same I am sure.

I have no more inclination to prove the validity of this to you, or other timewasters like you. You'll be able to catch up with us in the media before long.

Anyone wishing to come forward to make an early donation, offset some carbon footprint, offer help or otherwise add/contribute positively please send me a personal message and I will add you on skype so you have direct contact before any funds are exchanged. Early adopters, large pool/exchange admins this is directed at you.

Anyone thinking the environment is fine and the world should continue as it is, please direct your attention to the nearest wall and run at it with the same commitment you show to being an asshole, you will almost definitely have a great time. (just to be sure, that's a joke, DemetriusAstroBlack)

So rather than FUD you are someone that creates an account to spread hate? What an advanced grasp of semantics you have...
I am sure people here would like to hear some more of your opinions, after all they are always so intelligent and carefully considered, and they just make you look fantastic. Please type away.

Yet another pathetic attempt to be a human being from DemetriusAstroBlack on his account which was "not created to spread FUD".

Your contributions have been and will continue to be most welcome! What do you think of the design above?