also, we would need a very good weed simulator that can be uploaded as well.
And the weed simulator at such a stage of development would make weed seem like catnip. i would not want anything but the weed program, simply because most other recreation drugs alter thing too much for my taste and usually have crashes when they wear off. weed Just Works for my purposes, and i have a LOT of experience with it. its my ultimate drug of choice, no need for anything else. btw ever read larry nivens known space series of books? in them he came up with the ultimate drug.. a wire is implanted directly to the pleasure center of the brain and delivers a trickle current to it. its so powerful and addictive that people can starve to death as nothing is more important than that wire. they were called wireheads, and a main character in the ringword series was a wirehead for a period of time. as long as you (or the copy, whatever) can elect and is able to end its existence at some point. who wants an eternity of boredom?[/qoute] Although I personally wouldn't pull the plug on "uploading consciousness" until there is a way for me to simultaneously and willingly experience both the real and virtual me as well as turning one or the other off at will.
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There is no limit to novelty. So if you ever get bored you can always just hibernate or erase memory before coming back for more. Existence could then be like the ups and downs of the corn. I doubt that death is anything other than that, just in a more saddle way.
simply erasing learned experiences just means you will likely reach the same result (more or less) as the 1st run that led you to being bored to the point of wanting to cease existence. and i dont want some person to be able to modify my thinking or change the way i run such as restart/modify the way i run (like a "safe mode"... my consciousness doesnt do "safe mode") and no one should be able to override my choice if i chose to erase meself rather than enter hibernate or whatever. if i so chose to end it, i want the copy, and all backups gone. if i hibernate i will always be ale to be restarted. thats a negative. another thing about uploading some ones conscious that others me is the fact that others would now have access to the "source code" of you so to speak. its possible someone can change your thought to want to, say, run machinery, ships, anything that needs AI with a touch of human ingenuity and problem solving no thanks. You could have weed that always feels like that glorious first time where you just couldn't stop laughing. Or be as high as you want without feeling sluggish. It could be more intense while simultaneously leaving you with clarity of mind that a normal human can't even have right now. Also, psychedelics have no crash whatsoever and neither does MDMA in sensible doses. I'm not into stimulants or excessive use of alcohol, but yeah I guess those have crashes. And no, I haven't read that book. Sounds like heroin or that rat experiment with the pleasure button that they preferred over food though. |
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Madame Alexa knows how many Bitcoin you have  i will never own an alexa/google/amazon voice activated device, unless there is an actual physical switch to cut the mics out of circuit. i didnt really understand fully the ramification till the other day when i was going over with my wife how to recover my btc stack in case of my death. i was going to tell her the passphrase to my trezor (it would be written down also, this was just for discussion). but when i was going to tell the the passphrase i stopped. because while i dont own an alexa/google/amazon device, i do have a smartphone and smart watch, which have mics of course. so here i am in my own house, wondering if anything i say might go out to servers that humans can access (humans review random snips of voice data). wtf, my own home, which i have spent considerable time and money hardening both physical and electronic networks, is useless if the closed source algo that trigger sending data for no fully understood by the end user. btw many modern tvs have mics and web cams built in now. and IoT stuff like security cameras, some of which have mics so you can use then for intercoms, are notoriously bad at security and most will never get updates. so much the attach surfaces are pretty big. now i dont assume my phone and watch and compromised, but with the amount of money i have in btc it would be foolish to at least consider these scenarios, like any smartphone or laptop with a built in mic is powered off and put in another room when setting up wallet seed words. paranoia? sure but it is based on failings of the current tech used. Faraday cage room and Cryptosteel.  Thinking of it, I'll probably just have to build a room like that when I bother getting a new property. Just in case I ever need to have some serious talks with somebody. Faraday cage + no electronic devices inside (smartphones could still record and send the audio later). I think these kinds of problems are good to have though. They keep you on the edge if you consider them and keep you from turning into a potato and they're not as bad as having to worry about getting shot or eaten by a bear. |
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Of course there is a limit to how long any organism can live. By necessity. In order for the young to live the old have to die.
Would be great to live a thousand years just to see how things play out. But if everyone did it there would be no option but to murder one another in a variety of new and creative ways. And maybe that's why there have been so many socialist states with mass murders recently.
With increase in intelligence there's an increase in how much food and space can be created or utilized. Death will be a matter of choice one day. |
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Did CSW pull some new stunt recently though or what's the deal here?
He inferred he would pay $5k for the dox of one of his most vocal critics, Hodlnaut, so that way he could sue him for saying he's not Satoshi. For a man who's supposedly very smart, he sure is retarded. Wonder what the fuck is going on in that guy's head and how he became such a clown. |
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Good morning WO's! I have a good news! Changpen Zhao reminded that Craig Wright is not Satoshi, and even delisted Bitcoin SV from the stock exchange.  I'm starting to like the guy. Even if one could make an argument that he's trying to get attention. Did CSW pull some new stunt recently though or what's the deal here? |
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As far as the productivity gap goes. Workers are more productive because of the tools the business owners acquire for their use. As such, the numbers are inaccurate for any worker that does not buy their own tools to use in the business.
The productivity tool is a laptop which costs perhaps $1k. It is neither here nor there who buys the laptop - it’s only $1k. It is what you do with the laptop that matters. I agree that some of the costs aren't going to be relevant, but I don't think that someone doing "grunt work" (repetitive tasks) while using expensive tools is being as productive as those numbers seem to indicate. I do not know how strong this effect is, but I doubt it's being sufficiently (or at all) considered given that there is literally zero mention of it. Alas, to me this metric seems like either a lack of statistical understanding or political use of statistics. If there's an oversupply of workers who can use tools that leverage productivity doing the same tasks then naturally they will earn less. That means that people are learning the wrong things more than anything though. People have to learn that when there's an oversupply they should look for other avenues where they can leverage their income better. Too much supply lowers your relative productivity substantially, as such I dispute the claim that worker productivity has gone up. Given the sheer amount of low level tasks I'd lean towards assuming that it remained largely constant. Also, the productivity tool is not just a laptop. Software, data, data processing (cloud computing) in the case of IT jobs are just some factors that the worker has no ownership of and thus can't be accredited with the increase in productivity that these provide. |
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I believe minimum wage is morally wrong because it makes it illegal for you to sell your labor for under a certain price.
Likely you misspoke, here. Morally wrong and illegal are two different things. Likely you misread Lambie... Minimum wages makes ilegal to work being paid less than that... and it is morally wrong to impose such limitation because it ends up in more unemployment and bars from working (and being paid *anything*) people that do not produce/deserve more than that. I do agree... with some reserves though. Minimum wage brings an attempt at a balancing of interests, and sometimes those interests are not very well balanced, but whether something is immoral or illegal tend to be different questions, and sometimes might overlap.. but they are a bit different categories of consideration. You seem to be misreading or misunderstanding quite a number of post. I've seen you do it with my own posts, with jbreher's posts and now with Lambie's post (even after your display of illiteracy was pointed out to you by bitserve). Perhaps spend more time reading and less time writing? I don't see the connection to the minimum wage, which is a function of productivity and income?
Historically, there was a connection between productivity and income, but it largely disappeared in the last 45 years or so. These are the facts: Productivity change 1973-2017: 77% Hourly pay during the same period: 12.4% https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/I don't care what causes this, but it can't be sustainable. As far as the productivity gap goes. Workers are more productive because of the tools the business owners acquire for their use. As such, the numbers are inaccurate for any worker that does not buy their own tools to use in the business. This does not explain why in 1950-1973 period two graphs coincided. A simpler explanation would be that after 1973 economy get "financialized" and a larger slice of production gains (in %) went into the pocket of financiers, CEOs, etc. Perhaps it is a natural law, but then 1789 is a natural law as well. Do we want a repeat? I hope, not. Pauperizing workers cannot end in anything even remotely good down the pike. Can it last another 50 years? Maybe, but i hope to be out of the workforce, politics, etc one way or another well before that. Resources congregating around a select few central points indeed appears to be a natural law of some sort. Just look at the universe (distribution of galaxies, stars within), countries, cities, wealth etc. I think the solution to the problem is better education and fact bases political and public discourse though. People need to do things that they and others care about. |
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You seem to be misreading or misunderstanding quite a number of post. I've seen you do it with my own posts, with jbreher's posts and now with Lambie's post (even after your display of illiteracy was pointed out to you by bitserve). Perhaps spend more time reading and less time writing? Aren't you the expert, now. Says that didn't read my posts, but knows how to sum them up. Whoaza!!! I will let my posts speak for themselves..  I read enough of them to know that you think that killing babies is a "basic life choice". |
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Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?
FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with. Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare". Yeah right... A purported black gay man complaining that other socially marginalized people are getting too many societal protections, including access to basic life choices. The irony.. the irony. I was not aware that you were a racist JJG. Your evidence? I might have to roll my eyes at you too... What a goofball!!!! or would retarded be a better assertion, here? hahahahaha  The way in which you spam smileys and repeatedly fail to distill the content of posts made by numerous people as well as the fact that your walls of text are generally the same poor points rephrased several times implies very little hope for you if I was truly to be retarded. Also, calling third trimester abortions "basic life choices" depicts you as a degenerate of the highest order. |
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I believe minimum wage is morally wrong because it makes it illegal for you to sell your labor for under a certain price.
Likely you misspoke, here. Morally wrong and illegal are two different things. Likely you misread Lambie... Minimum wages makes ilegal to work being paid less than that... and it is morally wrong to impose such limitation because it ends up in more unemployment and bars from working (and being paid *anything*) people that do not produce/deserve more than that. I do agree... with some reserves though. Minimum wage brings an attempt at a balancing of interests, and sometimes those interests are not very well balanced, but whether something is immoral or illegal tend to be different questions, and sometimes might overlap.. but they are a bit different categories of consideration. You seem to be misreading or misunderstanding quite a number of post. I've seen you do it with my own posts, with jbreher's posts and now with Lambie's post (even after your display of illiteracy was pointed out to you by bitserve). Perhaps spend more time reading and less time writing? I don't see the connection to the minimum wage, which is a function of productivity and income?
Historically, there was a connection between productivity and income, but it largely disappeared in the last 45 years or so. These are the facts: Productivity change 1973-2017: 77% Hourly pay during the same period: 12.4% https://www.epi.org/productivity-pay-gap/I don't care what causes this, but it can't be sustainable. That's a different topic altogether. I don't see the connection between paying 1% on Gemini vs not wanting a minimum wage. One is an insurance, the other is determined based on how much value they add as well as how replaceable the worker is (supply vs demand). As far as the productivity gap goes. Workers are more productive because of the tools the business owners acquire for their use. As such, the numbers are inaccurate for any worker that does not buy their own tools to use in the business. |
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The point about a $15 wage demand at McDonalds, leading to workers being replaced with $35k kiosks, was an example of capitalism and the free market responding to stimulus.
I do automation for a living and am all for $35k kiosks. I also understand well the limits of automation and the need for humans to mop up any deviations. The minimum wage in Australia is A$22 which is US$15.60. We have full employment here in Australia (5% unemployment rate). If your business is so shit you can’t afford to pay a living wage, then you deserve to go out of business. I’m looking at you, Walmart. Point in case for the farmer and illegal worker conundrum. |
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Please let STFU Thursday JJG kindly flow into STFU Friday JJG
Just a friendly WO suggestion.
I'm starting to get it now. Guess it took me longer because I barely skimmed so many of his posts due to the oversupply of redundancy. |
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A simple fact:
in 1975 the minimal wage was $5.15 EDIT: looked at a wrong reference, apparently it was $2.10/hr in 1975, which is $9.9 now
in 2019 the minimal wage is $7.25
Well, $5.15 2.1 adjusted for inflation would be $24.33 9.9 today, so $15 number is not crazy.
Bob surely produces mixed messages (like paying 1% for 7 fig btc tx is OK, but $15/hr for MickeyD is too much).
The rich are different..., but I liked him more during drinking period...
I would pay 1% of any amount if it meant making sure that I won't lose it. If all other exchanges were Mt. Gox then even 5% could be preferable. It's called an insurance. I don't see the connection to the minimum wage, which is a function of productivity and income? |
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Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?
FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with. Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare". Yeah right...  A purported black gay man complaining that other socially marginalized people are getting too many societal protections, including access to basic life choices. The irony.. the irony. I was not aware that you were a racist JJG. |
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Do you want a monthly statistic in WO?
Hi I like this. But it would be great to take it back as far as possible, so we can compare price growth and post count and see if a possible leading indicator. If this is the objective, an quote of the historical and an quote of the current year, published on the 1st of each month. First I want to know if this information is interesting in the WO thread. Thx. Yes. It is. I don't have any merit left to send your way though, but I see others have you covered. |
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I want to be quite clear here.
Would you both support effective US immigration controls even if it causes a recession and wipes out many family businesses?
Edit: they shut down illegal immigration in Australia (mostly Pacific Islands) and the farmers rioted because they had no one to pick the harvest. It will be a hell of a fight in the US as well if immigration is turned off.
Maybe give the jobs to a bunch of kids? I'm sure some of them will be happy to earn some pocket money, and learn some lessons in the process. Or is "child labour" really that bad when it's voluntary? I quite enjoyed working the gardens and farms as a kid and I certainly wasn't being exploited. |
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Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?
FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with. Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare". Hi Bob Many of the illegal immigrants are primarily entering the US for jobs. If you turn off the jobs tap, then many will not come. It will be very effective immigration control. Do you support making it illegal to employ illegal immigrants, with jail time for US employers who violate the law? I don't know about jail time. Do illegals go to jail for immigrating illegally? (I really don't know.) But yes, I certainly agree with legal penalties for employers who employ illegals. Be it substantial financial penalties (not just a tiny tap on the wrist like with banks & co), jail time, or whatever else curbs the issue. Either we have social securities or we have no borders. Can't have both, at the very least not until the entire world is similarly productive. |
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Your taxes helped poor people and an overwhelming amount of illegal aliens get basic healthcare!?
FTFY. Would rather have put ACA money into building the wall, to mitigate the arguable open border and flood of illegal immigration we are dealing with. Also, I draw the line at my tax dollars being used for third trimester abortions, in the name of "basic healthcare". Bob speaking the truth here! On top of that the ACA fucked up private insurances and allowed them to have almost zero competition and be little duopolies. Come on, that's not possible. Big government exists to break up monopolies!  |
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That's pretty much what I wanted to hear. Will seriously consider this for my settlement once I take care of some other things first.
Can't wait to visit the restaurant for starters. Do you have any timeline for it?
And probably my last question about seasteading in general. How likely is it that your boat would get rekt and what do you do in such a situation?
Likely timeline for the restaurant is a matter of months. I'm in for a busy summer (people keep asking if I get bored on the seastead...). The likelihood of our seastead getting rekt is very minimal. I think we've seen the biggest winds for the year while we were out there our first few weeks. We woke up every morning expecting some damage but it was just fine. The production version will be extra safe. The interior of the spar will be completely void of any holes (seacocks/valves/etc). So in the very worst case scenario you can close off your spar and hunker down like going into your basement. Or you have the option of staying in your platform which is also a life raft. The two are not connected so if the spar sinks, the platform stays up. If the platform falls off (or something happens to it) you can go into the spar. But most likely if the storm of the century is coming through...you go to one of the nearby islands and wait out the storm. We are building the seasteads to withstand 5 meter waves. Where we are located the highest wave we should see in 100 years is 5 meters. High but rare. Average is about .5 meter waves. What about the boat that you use to get onto the seastead? Is it possible to get stranded? |
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Katie Bouman who brought us the picture of the black hole  Damn, smart and cute. |
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