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461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:49:08 PM
</hyperbolic nonsense>
You, good sir or madam, are a liar. I never said any such thing.
Sounded like it though to be honest.

I believe I can see where you're coming from, and can see some sense in it if I'm correct. But even then, your method of delivery probably fuels the fire more than it helps put it out.


If Muslims publicly spoke out against the problematic aspects of Islam and terrorism and publicly sought reform on a global scale, would you redact or amend your statement that Muslims are not innocent?
Sure, to people who project their own dark sides a lot. Which is again a primarily low-amygdala trait, or leftie trait. You'll notice you and I didn't get in a spat over it, for example?

My delivery is intentional. People get all kinds of honest when they get riled up. Quickly identifies who is worth my time.

Muslims as a whole will not do that. They would no longer be Muslim. It goes directly against the core of their faith.
If the most prominent Imams led the way to reform most Muslims would follow. Extremism will remain, but slowly dwindle out as it would appear increasingly retarded to throw your life away. Especially when God is all powerful anyways. Why would you harm God's creation if you honour him? And why would God need the help of us foolish mortals?

Also, even people who can't or do not want to debate unpleasant topics as these are worth the time. You can learn how to more efficiently communicate to them, e.g. in a way that gets them to understand your position. At the same time you slowly learn to understand theirs better. The more people try the quicker we'll converge to the sensible middle ground and the lower the chances of a shitstorm become.
462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:42:48 PM
Discrete mathematics, second or third semester of computer science Tongue
Linear algebra, in this case group and field theory. First semester of Mathematics and Physics, sometimes CS as well if you go the Math route. Not necessarily discrete.

It's funny how many different perspectives and approaches even on something as well defined as fields there are.


This wasn't about the Math as much as it was about disputing the existence of absolute/objective truth. Truth depends on perspective, which depends on your assumptions, which depend on your past experiences of life.
463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:37:33 PM
can you guys f***ing tell me what about you're talking??  Shocked Huh

Someone (I forgot who) made some post about there being no absolute truths or somesusch.  I object to this as I think it a cover for all sorts of bad behaviours like “alternative facts” so challenged on the basis that 2+2 always = 4.  

Of course I don’t know any higher order mathematics so was quickly proved wrong.  Now I am trying to understand why I was wrong.  
Some Mathematicians will disagree, but alas. Proof is anything you accept as such, usually whatever is sufficient for you to follow the argument to the end.
464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:36:26 PM
I’m still working on a basis for numbers being a finite field.  Which makes sense if you think space time is bounded.  Less so if not.  
Finite sets of numbers are just subsets of infinite ones. As such you can nest them within infinite fields without destroying the structure.
465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:32:15 PM


I'll come back later, I hope that by then we'll talk about Bitcoin.
Wrong thread my friend.
466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:26:45 PM

As for a "beginner level" introduction, I'm not really aware of any that isn't gritty rigorous Math. And in that case any would be as good as any other I suppose, since the definitions are always the same (except for perhaps the symbols used). If you feel like digging deeper I'm sure you'll find any number of resources on Google. All my notes and books for these topics are in non-English though, so I can't recommend you any reference here. But alas.

[2+2 <> 4]

quite interesting, thanks for giving me something new to chew on.

initially i thought you were referring to some sort of quantum effect as applied to math, as it seems quantum effects can create temporary energy as long as its "paid back" (like say a number, but not number in abstract, more like now when there was one something there are 2 somethings or 0 somethings.

i only went as far trig and some calc.. when i hit calc, and didnt see a traditional number on any page  till like 50 pages in, my brain just stalled.

too busy then partying the best days of my life away. some regrets, but not many.

Honestly it's never to late, especially if you're interested.

When I was doing my Bachelor there was a guy well into his 50s or 60s who was taking all the "real" Math lectures with us as opposed to the dumbed down ones for Economists etc. People were very welcoming towards him and he seemed to be enjoying himself quite a lot. I changed universities throughout my Bachelor to the next city. And found the same guy taking Master level lectures at the new place when I was a bit later (first place was for Economics and Business with focus on Math, second had a proper full blown Math department). So clearly he didn't just attend, he was doing quite well too. And that appeared to be his first time at university in his life as well.

And older people have the big bonus that they may not have to perform or prove anything. You could just study for the sake of it, which takes all the stress away. And their life experiences can make it easier than for most young students who are still trying to figure out what the fuck is going on with life in the first place.


Be prepared to feel like a complete idiot as you start out, should you choose to do so though. I have not met anyone who didn't at least throughout the better portion of the first semester. But even those come back years later and still find new things they had not considered. The very first minute of the very first lecture that I took I almost fell into despair just looking at the blackboard.

Anyway, not trying to shill you into anything here. But the option is there and worth considering. Especially for those with an appreciation of just thinking about things they don't need to for nothing other than the sake of doing so. There are very few ways that are similarly efficient in breaking down all of your preconceived notions as studying Mathematics. Notions such as regret for example. Wink

My wife and I have agreed we are going back to uni when we retire.  We want to take anthropology courses together.  Maybe I will add some pure math as well following our discussions. 
Great plan! I can't wait to go back eventually to study something out of my field myself. Perhaps music theory, history or philosophy.


If you actually do that and don't know which classes to pick you can send me a list of options over and we can try to figure out together which would best suit your interests.
467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:23:45 PM
We have plenty of coal allegedly

Supposedly 100 years of coal in the US, but I don't know many people with coal powered cars.  So yea, shouldn't be a problem powering buildings in the US with a combination of coal and nuclear, but there's no substitute for oil to power the cars.  The future I imagine for the west is an oil shock and a large societal shift to where western countries are going to be riding around on little motorcycles that consume small amounts of gas like they do in Asian countries.  Then some electric cars here and there, with the big gas guzzlers only being used to transport food or other materials.

As for this ArrieMoller and Trollgoossens guy, Europe has just about no fossil fuels, so you guys are cucked unless you beg Putin to not let you die.
Can always charge batteries with electricity generated from nuclear power while transitioning to solar and fusion. The transition also won't be nearly as bad as you make it out to be if it's a necessity. Necessity implies disproportional profits, which from your perspective the Jews would be so happy to provide that they'll make it work. If they don't they'd be stuck with little to nothing and a lot of mostly useless money.

I instead to be 100% energy self sufficient (car & house) within the next 24 months.  Currently have a Powerwall2 on order so I can capture my solar for night time use instead of dumping it into the grid. It’s 13.5kwh so not enough to take me off the grid altogether but I’m getting close.  

Electric car is next. Big oil and the Saudis can go fuck themselves.  Looking at the Taycan, Model 3 Performance but there are some other interesting ones in the pipeline.  Like this electric Peugeot concept.





No need to muck about with nuclear, the future is already here.
My plan as well. Self-sufficiency is always a good idea and I love tech in general, so any way for me to vote with my wallet for the development of technologies is welcome. I can't wait for commercial and efficient full glass solar panels. Will build some sexy shit with that.

Imagine a glass bridge on a pond/lake that happens to be made of solar panels that will illuminate a pavilion in the middle of it. Or a grow-house made out of solar panel glass.
468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:21:09 PM
ibian, are you really serious?
Can this child get a bann? He is telling racis things and still he can speak on this forum..

Anything I don't agree with is racist and should be banned.  Let's start by banning all the Jews, you know, the racists who took control of Russia then killed 20-40 million white Christian Russians and most of Germany too:



(((Ehrenburg)))

Ten out of ten Jews agree guns need to be banned to make the goyim easier to enslave and to facilitate the Kalergi plan.
The irony. His name appears German.
469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:14:57 PM
Can this child get a bann? He is telling racis things and still he can speak on this forum..
It's called freedom of speech. If you want to solve problems you need to be able to learn about them, and if he is a problem to you then you have nothing to gain by muting him.
470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:13:05 PM
Our awkward bastard step children ltc and eth are both up well over 5% today..can we and perhaps a better question, should we be matching them? Breaking above 4.2k would be a 5% gain for btc today. Also of note is that there hasent been but a small closeout of shorts.

You have provided an exacting set of background facts that should justify a decent BTC shorts-a-squeezing.. let's say, at least to $4,500, just to siphon them out even though $4,900-ish would be nicer to make it an even-Steven $1k upwards movement....

BTC is like USA among other crypto now.

It is a lot bigger than others so it is way harder to move it upwards or downwards.

A small shitty country can grow %10+ in a year and that still wouldn't make them happy and on the other hand, when USA grows %3 in a year they celebrate it for days.

Shitcoins are like those are small countries.

It is probably too late but I wish I bought more LTC While it was $30.
If you do you may want to throw <0.5 of your 5 BTC at shitcoin projects. Do thorough research and make sure to dump on the way up though. They are generally hit and run in the short to medium term and only few will prosper in the long run.
But opportunities are abundant and will remain to be so for a while. Just don't get greedy and use too many of your hard earned BTC or you'll fuck yourself over. 10% is a solid upper limit that will neither hurt you substantially nor produce so little return that it'd be a waste of time.
Also gets you to study the space more, and I have no doubt that shitcoins will be the new fundraising method for entrepreneurs as the space matures.
471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 12:02:02 PM
</hyperbolic nonsense>
You, good sir or madam, are a liar. I never said any such thing.
Sounded like it though to be honest.

I believe I can see where you're coming from, and can see some sense in it if I'm correct. But even then, your method of delivery probably fuels the fire more than it helps put it out.


If Muslims publicly spoke out against the problematic aspects of Islam and terrorism and publicly sought reform on a global scale, would you redact or amend your statement that Muslims are not innocent?
472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 11:51:56 AM
No christian women. Which is what matters.

What kind of retarded answer is that?

Any way. I am tired of you. Back to the ignore list.
Nope. Justify your position. Why are muslims better than christians according to you?

No one is better i’m raised a christian.... though later seen my mother supposed to be far far far jewish (also raised christian as her mom, but its a mother to daughter and so on going thing.....) but as a baptist christian and been raised one (not hard never really went to Church)
Only on the childshool ..... cause both my parents weren’t busy with anything of religion
But i have friends from al kinds of religion and i never think i’m better as any of them
I sometimes just think its pity those living the extreme religion lives cause they really mis so much in live
Land that Goes for all the religion peeps i can understand one believing in something, but don’t live the extreme lives cause nobody Ask to do that .....

the best religion is science, it explains everything with real evidence, it explains the differences with a logic that convinces people. religions speak of the relationship between human beings and god. science speaks of the relationships between human beings and their environment including nature.
Tautology.

But yes.
473  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 11:39:59 AM
Every Thursday, we could scoot around on our jet-skis-made-up-as-mock-pirate-ships, and Nerf-Rocket the shit out of JJG's island.
............ I mean, I can dare to dream, right ?
Remember what happened to Snowball in Animal Farm?  or Piggy in Lord of the Flies?
Not looking good for JJG in this "dream".
I studied Lord Of The Flies at school for English GCSE, got a B grade lol.
As soon as dat conch got smashed shit started going down Cheesy
Ahhhh memories of being at school - What a waste of time that was.

OK. See... I have wordy-man on ignore, so I would not normally see his post, but he has a terribly bad attitude about this possible utopia.

He's not thinking of "fun-factor" for defensive purposes on his end.

Can you imagine ? Coconut trebuchets, slings, and cannons, for example, aimed with some level of skill at us scooting Nerf-Gun-Pirates ?

At worst, some dude gets knocked the fuck off his scooter, life-jacket comes into play, and "pirate-squad" immediately tends to any fallen team-mates.

At best, coconuts float on water, so we'll have a bountiful harvest upon retreat.

Perhaps we up our game, and develop jet-skis with some sort of hydrostatic-pressure based mobile cannons, capable of returning the coconuts, softly, back to JJG's island.

Do I have to plan EVERYTHING ?!??

Please continue.
474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 11:38:08 AM
Not sure, but I need to know. For science. Roll Eyes
475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 11:29:32 AM
Ill bring a few boxes of cool records if that technology is supported

 Cool
Hell yeah, vinyl ftw.
476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 11:27:31 AM
+ 3 Merit’s for putting a smile on my face. It ain't no dream Bob, it’s a premonition - 2022 or early 2023.
2025~2030ish.

Need two waves to get x10k without extremely lucky shitcoin picking. And I doubt that we'd have 500~1000m combined to go x50~ and thus be able to just get that plan going as if it were buying candy.
477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 11:24:57 AM
I've seen this shit 1000 times before.  The second any of this stuff starts coming out of someone's mouth, the market immediately implodes afterwards.  There's contrarian investing for you.
It's more about the mass of people doing this. I've been thinking about the future in similar ways all the way down. Right now most people are still scared, otherwise the market would've heated up significantly.
478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 11:22:27 AM
I’m not going to reveal what I voted because it would possibly reveal how many coins I have.

 Full Disclosure: I voted 1000+ BTC in the poll.

 Right now, I'd consider 1000 BTC @ $4k not being a "fuckyoucoiner"

 2022 time-frame, however, well, let us discuss the issues further, on our WO Private Islands.

 It would be neat for all of us to just buy out an entire archipelago, and turn it into some sort of fruity libertarian utopia.

 Every Thursday, we could scoot around on our jet-skis-made-up-as-mock-pirate-ships, and Nerf-Rocket the shit out of JJG's island.

 Saturday nights would be designated weekly party night DJ'd by yours truly, and hosted by Big Dicked Ginger Rick on our island.

 LFC_Bitcoin would be in charge of pharmaceuticals.

 Mic and CryptoQueen could rock the bar.

 I mean, I can dare to dream, right ?
If we can make this work in a way that guarantees safety I would be more than interested in this. Although I would suggest that we'd set up some learning outlets as well as think up random new shit to try out. A regular schedule of learning instruments for example. Also gaming nights?

Basically just keep things varied enough to not get bored while not just outright turning into a retired super rich consumer drone. Not sure what a good balance of laziness and challenge would be though, but at such a time we could probably get someone to plan shit from us and have them adjust it based on everybody's input.


Also, a fucking Takeshi's Castle type parkour course? A racing track?
479  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 11:15:39 AM
So you admit you are religious obviously, otherwise, by your own logic, you would not use the term Hell or Devil.

I simply stated using the phrase "religion is the root of all evil" is an oxymoron since you can't define "evil" without a religious context.  As for what I believe personally, I state what the evidence of the observable universe shows here:

https://steemit.com/science/@r0achtheunsavory/the-r0ach-report-25-computer-science-proves-the-existence-of-a-variable-known-as-god-but-not-what-god-actually-is
I'd define the prime mover as empty consciousness. Or more precisely nothing.

That which is no thing (mind the space) is consciousness and the prime mover of everything.

Without consciousness even a particle would have no awareness of gravity, and gravity would have no awareness of what it acts upon.

It is also why consciousness is the hard question of science and philosophy, because it is the only thing that can not make reference to itself.

In the Bible it's the logos. In science it's the state at t = 0 of the big bang. In a human life it's the time of birth. We are nothing, we come from nowhere, we fill ourselves with experience, and then we return to nothing. That which moves us is the prime mover.

If you think about it, an omniscient omnipresent and omnipotent God would be aware of every moment that is to come at the same time. This implies that God experiences no change, otherwise he would not be omniscient. In order for God to experience anything he must discard knowledge in order to create time by recollecting the information (what we call remembering). This also provides a strong case for the seemingly fractal nature of the universe.

One implication is that we are all one and the same, but looking at "things" from different perspectives in space and time. Which again, shines a different light on "love thy neighbour as thyself" (for he is you and you are him).
480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: March 16, 2019, 10:52:22 AM
Saudi Arabia is safe as long as the west needs their oil. As soon as we don't need it anymore they better make sure they are friends with us or they will be up shit creek without a paddle.
They are making many investments, not sure with how much success. But investments aren't going to fund a country. So they'd have to start taxing its population. Wonder how long until people will start speaking out against their kings and princes at a time where they would be funding all the horseshit the Saudi royal family does directly.
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