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281  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Exclusive interview with CEX/GHASH - also about 51% attack! on: June 27, 2014, 09:09:35 AM
The right thing to do would be that they move all of their own miners to other pools (not one, many).

Moving the miners they control to other pools is pointless and only hides the problem. They can move them back at any time.
282  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC endgame = Mega Miner controlling everything, BTC is not "trustless" on: June 27, 2014, 08:25:09 AM
The 71% wouldn't have the power to do everything.  They couldn't, for example, increase their block reward, or spend coins they don't own.

Kicking out all the other miners by denying them any rewards and then reduce the online miners to a bare minimum would probably be profitable enough.
283  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: This is why Ghash sucks and is worse than you think. on: June 27, 2014, 07:04:21 AM
remember to read my interview with them on 51% and more - http://fuk.io/cexio-ghashio-jeffrey-smith-interview-exclusive/

You had some good questions, too bad he didn't answer them at all.
284  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is 51% Attack the biggest threat for Bitcoin? // What do you think about it? on: June 25, 2014, 03:14:18 PM
Yes but in fiat money world, you have the concept of trust, if Paypal cheats you, you can go to courts.

Good luck with that. Besides, nobody would lose their bitcoins just because somebody makes a mining monopoly, so there would be no reason to go to court. They can't change the bitcoin protocol either. They could double spend, but that would make them lose trust and ruin the point. For the users some aspects could even be improved. For instance it would make instant confirmations possible, because the monopoly owners decides what gets included in the next block.
285  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is 51% Attack the biggest threat for Bitcoin? // What do you think about it? on: June 24, 2014, 11:15:16 PM
This would destroy the value of bitcoin and the holdings of the malicious miner. The only way either scenario happens is with some one interested purely in chaos and destruction.

Not if there is already an economy that depends on Bitcoin. The network and all the businesses and users that depend on it would still be there, and for anyone except the miners the difference would be minimal. Nobody throws away their fiat money or Paypal money just because it's controlled by single entities. Most people don't care about the political and ideological issues.
286  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is 51% Attack the biggest threat for Bitcoin? // What do you think about it? on: June 24, 2014, 08:55:57 PM
I think the biggest threat is a variation of the 51% attack that leads to permanent centralization. One organization can buy up enough mining equipment to have 55-60% of the mining power. It doesn't matter if it's not profitable in the long run because if you ignore all other blocks, no other miners will get any profits at all. This will force them to quit, and after a while most of the miners can be turned off. The difficulty level will go down, and the winner will get all the profits with minimal costs. If anyone tries to compete the offline miners can be turned back on to override their blocks.

This probably won't become a reality unless the Bitcoin economy gets significantly larger, though.
287  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: multi-arbitrage.com on: June 23, 2014, 09:16:26 AM
I haven't reinvested my withdrawl funds yet, but I'm not sure why you all think it's definitely scam.
I do a bit of low scale trading myself and can achieve the same return as promised if I spend 1-2 hours per day trading between exchanges with no experience or software helping me, so surely its not unlikely that if it is there job they will be able to deliver this return and a healthy profit for themselves?

Making a few % profit of a tiny amount every now and then when you see that the differences are large is completely different from consistently making a large profit from a large invested amount. It's like thinking you can make a living from playing poker because you do well on the play money tables.
288  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: June 21, 2014, 03:21:18 PM
Bitcoin Trader is proudly sponsoring the Bitcoin Conference Chicago, taking place on the 19th and 20th of July.
After Bitcoin2014 and the CEBEX, this is the third major bitcoin event Bitcoin Trader is sponsoring.
It is important to support bitcoin events, to spread the word and to help to bring bitcoin into the mainstream.
http://btcchicago.com/

Judging from the response I got when I asked, they realize it's a ponzi but they just don't care.
289  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: multi-arbitrage.com on: June 21, 2014, 03:16:22 PM
Of course it's a ponzi. They even claim that one of the founders is silly rich, and still they are just giving away the profits to random strangers. If it was true he would use his own money.
290  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BTCTrip is anyone tired this service yet? on: June 20, 2014, 10:31:58 PM
Expedia only supports bitcoins for hotels, and only on the US site. I haven't actually ordered anything using BTCtrip because they didn't support the airline I wanted to use for a particular trip, but they've been very responsive when I asked questions on email. The fact that they've existed for more than a year and there doesn't seem to be any bad reviews makes me think it's safe to use them.

For hotels I recommend trying https://www.simplytravelonline.com/. I've used them once and had no problems. I think their map search with various filters makes it really easy to find the cheapest hotels that are not crap and not too far away from where you want to be.
291  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Official announcement from Ghash.IO on: June 20, 2014, 07:21:44 AM
Unfortunately you are correct. Ghash is very customer focused. Most other pools are run by people who are more technical focused, who understand the mining process well but have trouble with the advertising/marketing side of things.

Or the other pools just don't want to work for free. The only marketing that has ever worked well in bitcoin mining is having a lower price than the other pools. What you should be asking yourself is why ghash.io wants every miner to mine for them so badly that they are willing work for free right now. I can see several reasons, but not a single one that's good for Bitcoin and it's users.
292  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-06-16] GHASH.IO statement about the 51 % problem on: June 19, 2014, 08:03:46 AM
This means that you can NOT create more then 6 blocks in a row less then 10 minutes apart ,

Nope, that's not it either. It means that if you want to replace the block chain you either can't use too much time, or you have to set the time stamp into the future to give yourself some extra time. "Fortunately" for ghash.io they control a lot of the miners in their pool, which gives them a better probability.
293  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: June 18, 2014, 07:36:38 PM
However, earning ~$20 a month on a $100 investment (math below for those who want it) isn't completely unheard of and happens in the Stock Market.
...time will tell who is/was right.

It *never* happens in an open ended investment opportunity with a fairly predictable daily "profit" like this. The shares of any business that earns this much money sky rockets immediately, and the opportunity for other investors to get the same profit disappears.
294  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: June 18, 2014, 04:11:50 PM
1) we do not know that or if it is a ponzi, just investing
2) someone who takes your "false claims" should be in a position to refund you any lost money as well, it works both ways.

1. If you can get past your wishful thinking it's really not hard to figure out what it must be.
2. Like they did in the Madoff case?
295  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: June 18, 2014, 04:00:59 PM
A couple of posts way earlier in the forum mentioned profits above what they invested (over 100%). I'm now exactly mid way through my 120 day period and I don't see how I'm going to make back more than what I invested. It's a great return but not over 100%. I originally invested $40.00 and at the mid way point I have made 15.11, which will leave me slightly over a $30.00 profit by the end of the 120 day period or about a 75% ROI.

That's not how profits are calculated if you want to do it correctly. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=527395.msg7303409#msg7303409
296  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-06-16] GHASH.IO statement about the 51 % problem on: June 18, 2014, 08:30:47 AM
Everybody will notice the mining of a private fork!!!!

Not until it's too late.

If at the same time no blocks over the next couple hours were ghash.io's, that would be a "network event" that would indicate quite possibly that a pool is attempting a 51% attack.

FACT: Just this morning ghash.io didn't find any blocks for 1.5 hours, and nobody raised an eyebrow. Later this morning they released 5 blocks in 20 minutes. They may be also be hiding their actual mining rate by releasing some blocks without telling. For instance http://blockchain.info/blocks/91.121.192.38 has only released 4 blocks, but 3 of them appeared within less than 2 hours. This strongly suggests that a lot of the unknown mining power belongs to a single entity which is frequently switching IP.
297  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 51% can be prevented so long as all nodes agree. on: June 18, 2014, 07:38:48 AM
Imagine managing a miner with 80%, competing with 3 miners with 5% each, the last 5% spread around. To keep that market share, you have to be on top of everything. Getting the best new hardware, keeping a stable power supply, keeping the personell, be alert around the clock and around the year. Even at 80%, you can be only slightly more profitable than the next miner. A slight misstep, and you loose some blocks, eroding your profit, transforming it to a loss. A chance for another miner to have a go.

If you have 80% the rest depends on your goodwill to get any profits at all. You can just ignore the other blocks and take 100% of the profits, or delay the release of your blocks until somebody else finds one and then immediately override it by sending out two blocks. Doing this you would also be the one who decides how much it would cost to use the Bitcoin network.
298  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-06-16] GHASH.IO statement about the 51 % problem on: June 18, 2014, 06:52:01 AM
FACT: Ghash.io has never committed double spending against a CONFIRMED transaction. Apparently at one time Ghash.io had committed fraud against an online gambling site by performing a Finney attack to cancel their non-winning bet transactions. This was possible because the casino recognized payment on 0/unconfirmed transactions -- something that NOBODY would recommend a merchant do for an anonymous, online service.

How can we be sure they're following the same rules for when it's ok to commit fraud as you? Mine are that it's never ok, but I'm painfully aware that not everybody follows my rules.
299  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: bitcoin-trader.biz on: June 17, 2014, 04:48:24 PM
Are they actually sending anyone to this conference though? Did they send any to other events?

For the one in Amsterdam they had just hired some woman to represent them.
300  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 51% can be prevented so long as all nodes agree. on: June 17, 2014, 04:03:57 PM
Pool A has high priority level and can submit up to 100 blocks per hour
Pool A starts growing and gets to 101 blck per hour and starts loosing BTC. They change IP after 100th block is submited to enable themselves to submit that 101th block and they become low priority pool.
Now pool A can submit only 10 blocks per hour and gain 1 extra block every day. While Pool B which is still on same IP is going great, growing slowly and gaining proiroty.

Pool A would appear as Pool C if the switched IP. They could just go back to being Pool A when they're back under the threshold, or pretend being pool D, E, F and however many they need to avoid being throttled.
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