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2841  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A new idea for node reward on: April 09, 2019, 04:55:30 PM
To install and run an LN node, you would also need to install bitcoind, unless you're using something like Neutrino. But if you are already maintaining a 24/7 full node, then you can install and run a Lightning node with it and charge for routing fees.

I get the point, but IMO it sounds like incentive to keep existing node running rather than incentive to run full nodes.
Additionally, unless your LN node have routing path/directly connected to lots of other LN nodes, i doubt you'd get sufficient income/reward.
2842  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Basics of the Lightning Network - explanation and wallets on: April 07, 2019, 04:22:40 PM
there is still debate if this is still 3rd blockchain generation or already fourth

there is no such (credible) debate

Additionally, there's no clear indicator/feature to classify blockchain generation which proves "blockchain generation" only a buzzword.

From what i've seen, most generation discussion only focus fancy features or output/throughput (such as high TX/s), not efficiency, decentralization, security or immutability.
2843  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Discussion: optimization of mempool fee levels on: April 03, 2019, 06:07:02 PM
There are problems with your proposal :
1. Each node's mempool isn't exactly same, so few transaction still could "pass"
2. All users who use wallet which have bad fee estimation or couldn't get mempool (assuming user use SPV wallet) could get their transaction rejected
3. This could be seen as censorship attempt
4. If bitcoin network is attacked by spamming transaction, user can't find way to get their transaction confirmed quickly
2844  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / [INFO] Proposal softfork proposal untuk mengatur harga minimal $50.000/BTC on: April 01, 2019, 03:06:59 AM
Kabar baik, Luke Dashjr (Bitcoin Core developer) mengeluarkan proposal softfork yang mengatur harga minimal Bitcoin menjadi $50.000/BTC (Rp. 7.120.20.000/BTC).
Ucapkan selamat tinggal kepada proposal Bitcoin ETF dan ingatlah kita tidak perlu persetujuan pemerintah supaya harga Bitcoin bisa naik Smiley



Potongan pesan asli :

Certain parts of the community have been selling bitcoins for unreasonably
low prices. This has halted Bitcoin's valuation at $20k and even driven the
price down below $15k! However, clearly Bitcoin is worth much more than
that, and there is widespread support for higher prices.

In light of this, I have written and implemented two BIPs: one to add a
signed price field to Bitcoin transactions, and the other to softfork a
minimum price of $50k USD/BTC a year from today.

The BIPs are here, as well as included at the bottom of this email for
convenience:
  https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/softfork_50k/bip-usdprice.mediawiki
https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/softfork_50k/bip-softfork-50k-price.mediawiki

A reference implementation is here:
  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v0.17.1...luke-jr:softfork_50k

Please review ASAP so we can get these deployed in Bitcoin Core v0.18.

Luke

Link pesan asli : https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2019-April/016811.html
2845  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Softfork proposal for minimum price of $50k USD/BTC on: April 01, 2019, 02:51:11 AM
Rejoice bitcoiner, Luke Dashjr release new softfork proposal which set minimum price $50K USD/BTC a year for now.
Say goodbye to Bitcoin ETF and remember we don't need government approval to see Bitcoin going to the moon Smiley



Quoted original message :

Certain parts of the community have been selling bitcoins for unreasonably
low prices. This has halted Bitcoin's valuation at $20k and even driven the
price down below $15k! However, clearly Bitcoin is worth much more than
that, and there is widespread support for higher prices.

In light of this, I have written and implemented two BIPs: one to add a
signed price field to Bitcoin transactions, and the other to softfork a
minimum price of $50k USD/BTC a year from today.

The BIPs are here, as well as included at the bottom of this email for
convenience:
  https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/softfork_50k/bip-usdprice.mediawiki
https://github.com/luke-jr/bips/blob/softfork_50k/bip-softfork-50k-price.mediawiki

A reference implementation is here:
  https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v0.17.1...luke-jr:softfork_50k

Please review ASAP so we can get these deployed in Bitcoin Core v0.18.

Luke

Original message : https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2019-April/016811.html
2846  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Lightning Network Discussion Thread on: March 31, 2019, 04:13:54 PM
What are the best LN papers/articles I can read? I have a few days off work and would love to learn about the LN in depth.

Papers : https://lightning.network/lightning-network-paper.pdf

Article/thread :
https://lnroute.com/
Basics of the Lightning Network - explanation and wallets
2847  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is there a plan to switch to quantum proof cryptographic signatures? on: March 29, 2019, 05:37:12 PM
There are some promising candidate for quantum resistant cryptography signature (CMIIW), such as :
1. Lamport Signature
2. Lattice-based Cryptography
3. Multivariate-based cryptography

But AFAIK there's no serious discussion/plan of choosing/implementation of quantum resistant cryptography signature for Bitcoin.

There's no need for that right now in my opinion, most of security systems are based in the same Cryptography system as bitcoin, if there was any risky for the general cryptography system then we would have much more solutions for that.

The risks of quantum computing is already known, so it'd be dumb if people don't do anything just because it's secure for now.
2848  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [EDU] BITCOIN MIXING SERVICE on: March 28, 2019, 03:56:14 PM
BTW Teknologi Mixing Sekarang Mulai Ditemukan Loophole-nya (Bisa Dilacak)
http://[b

Mungkin agan mau memberikan link ini : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117328.0

Pertanyaan saya, apakah bitcoin mixing ini hanya digunakan untuk transaksi gelap? seperti halnya dark web.

Tidak, semua orang bisa menggunakan bitcoin mixer/mixing service.

Menggunakan bitcoin mixer/mixing service bukan berarti seseorang melakukan transaksi gelap/ilegal.
2849  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [Question] Multisig for an organisation on: March 26, 2019, 04:27:57 PM
I indeed read that OP_AND and OP_OR have been disabled.

And that mean script size for multi-sig for you is big. You'd need 12 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY, unless you could think ways with shorter logic. Roughly it should look like this.

Code:
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 1> <Sig. 4> <Sig. 6> 3 <Pub. Key 1> <Pub. Key 4> <Pub. Key 6> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 1> <Sig. 4> <Sig. 7> 3 <Pub. Key 1> <Pub. Key 4> <Pub. Key 7> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 1> <Sig. 5> <Sig. 6> 3 <Pub. Key 1> <Pub. Key 5> <Pub. Key 6> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 1> <Sig. 5> <Sig. 7> 3 <Pub. Key 1> <Pub. Key 5> <Pub. Key 7> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 2> <Sig. 4> <Sig. 6> 3 <Pub. Key 2> <Pub. Key 4> <Pub. Key 6> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 2> <Sig. 4> <Sig. 7> 3 <Pub. Key 2> <Pub. Key 4> <Pub. Key 7> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 2> <Sig. 5> <Sig. 6> 3 <Pub. Key 2> <Pub. Key 5> <Pub. Key 6> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 2> <Sig. 5> <Sig. 7> 3 <Pub. Key 2> <Pub. Key 5> <Pub. Key 7> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 3> <Sig. 4> <Sig. 6> 3 <Pub. Key 3> <Pub. Key 4> <Pub. Key 6> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 3> <Sig. 4> <Sig. 7> 3 <Pub. Key 3> <Pub. Key 4> <Pub. Key 7> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_IF
    0 <Sig. 3> <Sig. 5> <Sig. 6> 3 <Pub. Key 3> <Pub. Key 5> <Pub. Key 6> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_ELSE
    0 <Sig. 3> <Sig. 5> <Sig. 7> 3 <Pub. Key 3> <Pub. Key 5> <Pub. Key 7> 3 OP_CHECKMULTISIGVERIFY
OP_ENDIF
2850  Other / Archival / Re: Found a burn address on: March 23, 2019, 07:37:34 PM
Why would people even send coins to a burn address?

Some people simply just want to watch the world born Either because they're no longer sane or last resort if one can't protect his bitcoin.



there's even a website which let you make burn address, in case you want to try to make your own burn address : https://gobittest.appspot.com/ProofOfBurn

If you got error message like "Invalid character in input", don't forget bitcoin address uses Base58 (123456789ABCDEFGHJKLMNPQRSTUVWXYZabcdefghijkmnopqrstuvwxyz), so you can't use 0 (zero), O, I (big i), & l (small L)
2851  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: is my ip revealed if i have electrum wallet on my phone? on: March 23, 2019, 05:59:28 PM
Looks like you're confused with some terms/terminology. But if you meant whether your IP could be used to track your Bitcoin activity usage, then :

Short answer : Yes, it can
Long answer :
1. Your ISP know you use Bitcoin because you connect to Electrum server without VPM/Tor
2. Electrum server could log all information of anyone who connect to itself
3. If owner of Electrum server and ISP working together, they would know all your Bitcoin wallet information (balance, address list, received/sent transaction, etc.)
2852  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Cash ABC can do 100+ tx/s? on: March 23, 2019, 03:19:17 PM
It's true, however there are some trade-off by increase TX/s solely by increase max. block size limit which are :
1. Higher cost to run full nodes (faster internet, faster CPU, bigger RAM, bigger storage, etc. needed)
2. Sacrifice decentralization/security due to higher cost to run full nodes. Few people think it's controversial opinion/argument.

But other cryptocurrency promote/offer higher TPS, some even claim 750K TPS
2853  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: [PSA] Fake Wasabi wallet from wasabibitcoinwallet [dot] org on: March 22, 2019, 05:54:59 PM
Wasabi's GitHub page also share short guide on GPG verification along it's public PGP key.

https://github.com/zkSNACKs/WalletWasabi/blob/master/WalletWasabi.Documentation/Guides/InstallInstructions.md#gpg-verification

If the scammer couldn't get it ranked on google, then he/she could probably use social media to fool unsuspecting users? For example, giving advice out to users on Twitter on how to stay safe and directing them to that malicious link.

Basically social engineering attack. I'd bet they share misleading URL where text and actual link are different, example :

bitcoin.org

Code:
[url=bitcointalk.org]bitcoin.org[/url]
2854  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Anti Bitcoin] Lightning Loop: closed source and anti-competitive on: March 21, 2019, 05:24:49 PM
After working hard on LN for many years despite lots of FUDs and attempt to fix LN's flaw by design, it's doesn't make sense Lightning Labs would do this, especially when LN isn't "stable" enough if daily usage.
If they release Lightning Loop after LN is deemed "stable" enough, i'm sure they could earn more money that way.

Let's see which one will happen first :
1. Lightning Labs decide to make Loop open source and allow competition
2. Bitcoin and LN community decide to fork Lightning Labs works (just like MySQL community fork MySQL after oracle bought MySQL)
3. Bitcoin community move on/focus to another scaling solution (whether it's on-chain or off-chain)
2855  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should bitcoin be limited to 21 million? on: March 19, 2019, 05:12:40 PM
While i don't like deflation (especially on long run) and big inflation, few things such as 21 million coin supply is one of Principles of Bitcoin that shouldn't be changed and will be disagreed by majority of Bitcoin community.

--snip--
although if it becomes unprofitable to mine it'll be the node owners doing the mining which wouldn't be a bad thing (each node miner with a few chips to mine with like the gekkos side hack makes - id be into that).

It won't happen as bitcoin mining difficulty simply decreased and miners with most efficient ASIC and low operational cost still can mining with profit.
2856  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Software to access to additional data within the BTC blockchain on: March 18, 2019, 04:54:27 PM
As for enter data into transaction (which will be included on block of BTC's blockchain), you can use wallet such as Bitcoin Core using createrawtransaction command by adding data column.

As for obtain information/data from BTC's blockchain, you can check these article/website :
1. http://www.righto.com/2014/02/ascii-bernanke-wikileaks-photographs.html
2. http://coinsecrets.org/

But, please take note that :
1. Script which used on righto article is outdated and might not detect all non-transaction information on BTC's blockchain
2. coinsecrets.org detect all non-transaction information which uses OP_RETURN, but you still need to know format/numeral system used to get actual information.
2857  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Noob question: why do low-fee transactions ever get confirmed? on: March 16, 2019, 07:28:55 PM
However, there are several ongoing changes to bitcoin which are intended to address this problem.
--snip--

Don't forget there are 2 more changes :

Schnorr MuSig which reduce transaction size by aggregate multiple signature into one signature. It also improves user privacy since people can't see who are and how many the signer.

MAST (Merklized Abstract Syntax Tree). Basically it's improvement where you only submit part of script which is needed when you  want to spend your coins. It also improve user privacy since not all condition to spend the coins is revealed.

Lightning Network has the potential to completely solve this issue.

I disagree, LN isn't suitable for big transaction since it's less secure than on-chain transaction and most LN nodes/channel don't store big amount of Bitcoin.
2858  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [MAR 2019] Fees are low, use this opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs! on: March 16, 2019, 06:47:13 PM
If anyone wants to consolidate their inputs into the same transaction then feel free to shoot me a pm.

Are there are any noticeable difference between consolidate input alone and together with other people?

I didn't know that possible! So it's like a manual Coinjoin:

FYI, there's a BIP which allow manual CoinJoin, it's called Partially Signed Bitcoin Transaction Format.

More info :
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0174.mediawiki
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/bitcoin-improvement-proposal-bip-174-for-partially-signed-bitcoin-transactions-psbt/
2859  Other / Off-topic / Re: Recommended VPN Services? on: March 15, 2019, 06:45:13 PM
There are 2 serious problem with VPN :
1. There's no way to verify if VPN honor your privacy (never store log, never share user's information, etc.)
2. Few crap VPN have bad security such as DNS request leak or using outdated/week encryption

Frankly i'd recommend another option such as Tor. But if it's not an option for you, then i'd recommend ProtonVPN, TorGuard or NordVPN which popular among people who're looking for privacy
2860  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is not enough: we need open source hardware on: March 14, 2019, 06:15:15 PM
While i agree with your opinion, it's tall-order because :
1. Maintain open-source software is expensive and difficult, many companies don't bother do it especially because they obtain security through obscurity
2. Open-source isn't guarantee there's no spy or backdoor. For example, firmware on one of Bitmain's ASIC (i think it's Antminer S9) had a backdoor for remote shutdown.
3. One people simply can't verify all source-code of software/hardware he uses, he must trust others at some point.

While it's a bit off-topic, have you tried using computer for everyday usage only with open-source software/driver?
I tried it for a bit, but it's extremely difficult. There weren't any free/open-source driver for my wi-fi card and it's GPU driver isn't good enough is crap for 3D gaming.

I'm not overly familiar with this subject, but I think there are independent hardware manufacturer you can switch to, like Raspberry pi.  

Unfortunately, not all parts of Raspberry Pi is open source. Some hardware parts, especially it's SoC (System-on-a-chip) is closed source and it's open source GPU driver isn't as good as Proprietary GPU driver.
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