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2941  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public companies That own Bitcoin on: July 27, 2021, 08:54:22 PM
Shouldn't Grayscale be part of this? They hold around seven times what MicroStrategy does.
This could be because Grayscale does not actually hold Bitcoins which they purchased with their cash reserves, they only serve as a means by which institutional investors can buy into bitcoins without having to go through the hassles of an exchange, so basically, they hold funds for others and do not really hold those coins.
2942  Other / Meta / Re: Have bumping rules changed? on: July 27, 2021, 07:54:44 PM
But the rules don't say that a thread can't be bumped unless significant changes have been made to it.
There have been no recent changes to the bump rules, so I doubt this is the case, bumps can be made without any change at all to the OP, I for one bump my service thread like that.
This case could be a mod misinterpreting the situation, it's rare for that to happen more than 4 or 5 times, but it is possible. Maybe the mod who took the action could respond here with the reason.
2943  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk Youtube channel - what would you like to see? on: July 26, 2021, 09:46:24 PM
So let's say I'd start filming tomorrow. What type of content/themes would you like to see?
Things that you'd like to watch, whether you're a grumpy Bitcointalk veteran or just hearing out about our wonderful community.
It would need to be a combination of fun and educative contents focused on forum discussions. I'll love to see a voice over discussions of some forum discussions, with possible animation edits to bring them more to life, that way people would be entertained and may want to head to the forum to join the conversation.

Maybe also a weekly interview with one forum member, although this ma be a bit more difficult for privacy reasons, users may not want to go through the stress of ensuring no one can trace their identity through such means.

Weekly awards for best posts, worst posts etc could also be cool.
2944  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it easier to HODL if you are already rich? on: July 26, 2021, 09:10:07 PM
No, I do not think how rich one is plays a part besides giving them more amounts to invest in. How easy it is to hodl depends on wise investments;
• Same way someone with a $1 million networth can invest $60k with not stress,
• Someone with a $100k networth can invest $6k and,
• Someone with a $10k networth can invest $600.

Same percentage of their networth invested and presumably same ease of holding, if that the reasonable amount they are willing to spare. If $600 did ×100 like in the example you gave, that's a return of $6,000, which is a very significant amount.
The important thing is not to see Bitcoin as a get rich quick scheme if you view it as an investment; invest amounts you can afford to lose and find other means of generating wealth.
2945  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Pegasus & phone wallets on: July 26, 2021, 08:16:38 PM
It is yet unclear the level of information that could be affected by such a spyware and how one can get compromised, so we cannot say to what extent it can affect your wallet security or if it affects it at all. Every Bitcoin holder should be very conscious about security and should always take precautions to protect themselves

I know people only carry chump change in them..but in 3rd worlds nations such a El Salvador .. isn't the whole circular economy project based on phone wallets.
This could potentially pose a problem, but it could be solved with the use of airgapoed devices or only keeping little amounts in your hot wallets.
2946  Other / Meta / Re: Change name ? on: July 26, 2021, 07:35:04 PM
But before that, you should be an established member of this forum.
I do not think one needs to be an established member of the forum inorder to get their display name changed as I've seen the case of very be members having hie request granted 'cause they had a good enough reason; that factor seems to overrides being an established member in the eyes of the admin.
2947  Other / New forum software / Re: I think the function of the forum should be added on: July 26, 2021, 08:51:34 AM
Your infographic looks good, but I don't himk the forum needs any major changes to the layout or the way it functions. The new forum software is expected to contain a few new features, but it would not change the overall background of the forum.
2948  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2.66 BTC fee for one transaction on: July 25, 2021, 10:00:59 PM
Ait could be that this fee close to $100k was paid by intention to convert bitcoin from criminal activity into miners coins which are usually seen as innocent virgin coins.
Only the coinbase reward of miners count as virgin coins, the transaction fee is obviously from an address and has been involved in multiple transactions before then.

How to investigate this? If the transaction was not in the mempool of the most nodes or if the transaction wasn't in orphaned blocks at similar time then it's very suspicious that the fee was given to the miner by intention to launder the coins.
Crime is not the only reason why someone would want to obfuscate the trail of transaction. Privacy and freedom are essential parts of Bitcoin and one can take extra effort at maintaining that.
2949  Other / Meta / Re: Sample topic self-moderated. on: July 25, 2021, 05:44:22 PM
Say, the thread has grown so large that self-moderating it isn't just something you can continue to do so.
Mods still acts on reports in self moderated threads which breaks forum rules, but they would not enforce your local rules. If you're tired of self moderating a thread, you could just leave it, rather than trying to undo the self mod feature, at it has th same effect. Or as is suggested above, just lock the thread.
2950  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Unintentional plagiarism on: July 25, 2021, 01:01:17 PM
I want to understand the basics of the unintentional plagiarism as regards to this forum. Is it that if found guilty of unintentional plagiarism, you will only get temporary ban.
All cases of rule breaking are considered uniquely and not as a general case with the same outcome, while unintentional plagiarism might not exist on the forum, if a user us caught plagiarizing and gets caught, the details of the case would be considered before such user is banned or when they appeal.
Some members are judged on merits of their contribution to the forum over the years, this could result in a lower ban, with restrictions of signature space possibly,
• If a user makes an error on imputing the site link, this would also be considered by the mods, sometimes using quite tags, or simply "" "", is usually enough to avoid any punishment.
• The intent is also considered, was the user wearing a signature when the post was made? Does it bring them any form of benefit, or were they just excited about sharing some new information.

All these and more are considered, but these cases make up a minor part of rule breakers, majority simply broke the rules, cause they do not care about the forum.
2951  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Nigeria Local Board, All board discussion welcomed. {No Official Language} on: July 25, 2021, 12:40:54 PM
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Welcome to the forum boss. E make sense as other Nigerians dey discover Bitcoin and this forum. Just pay attention to the rules of the forum and dey interact normal, you go get used to everything soon enough.

For other Nigerians, Incase you refer person to the forum and they no fit register, you fit show them this thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350260.msg57505657#msg57505657
They fit get whitelisted for free, but they go need prove say they be true new members, my own email dey there too.
2952  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free on: July 25, 2021, 12:35:17 PM
Emails are starting to pile up. I must say they make it very easy to reject them, if they can't follow simple instructions.
Do you consider it necessary to make a public list of users rejected along with those accepted?
Even though whitelisters could have varying views, it would help to know who has been rejected by other members, just as a heads up to others.
Most would simply change usernames, but hey, some will not, and it could be a bit of help.
2953  Other / Meta / Re: How does evil fee makes sense? on: July 25, 2021, 12:28:50 PM
Even if there was such list, chances are slim that people who have never been on Bitcointalk will check it.
+1, only accounts which have already been on the forum would be savvy enough to access such information and use it, a newbie who sees a ban message when they have literally done nothing would just close tab and move on, except they were referred to the forum by a veteran member.

Perhaps, it is time for the mewie welcome message.
2954  Other / Meta / Re: How does evil fee makes sense? on: July 24, 2021, 04:58:18 PM
The actual purpose is mainly to control spammers, instead of those seeking to evade bans, IMO. There was a huge influx of spam SEOs at the start of the year, with them scraping other posts to try to blend it. Removing the barrier of entry for those IP ranges only serves to increase the spam on the forum and other than monetary disincentives
Units of evil attached to an IP increases as more members using that IP gets banned, so it's technically a fee to prevent these banned users from creating new accounts on the forum, by extension this would discourage spamming as users get banned for spamming and it would prevent them from opening new accounts to continue spreading spam.
Actually, the way I see it; the system was created to prevent any activity which would lead to a ban, such as spam (message or pm), malware etct as those banned accounts are deterred from registering again.
2955  Other / Meta / Re: How does evil fee makes sense? on: July 24, 2021, 04:37:27 PM
As I've mentioned before, the proxyban fee has practical reasons, but it's a system that cannot be efficient in controlling ban evaders which is the actual purpose. New members would normally not know their way around the forum or Bitcoin itself and may have stumbled on the site from somewhere else and rather than getting a welcome message which explains a bit about this forum, they get a ban message which they need to pay to overturn.
Ban evading is an offense on the forum and those caught will still be banned even though they have paid the fee, new members on the other hand are the ones who would either pay for something they know nothing about or not register at all.

Theymos recently increased the number of whitelisters on the forum and that's a very good step, making it easier for new member to access should be the next, with a newbie welcome message. So rather than getting a ban message, a new member would get a welcome message directing them on how to evade any issues they encounter on the forum.
2956  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What Happens To Your Crypto If You Sleep One Day and Don't Wake Up The Next Day? on: July 23, 2021, 06:02:10 PM
Bitcoin is a decentralized network and there is no stipulated system for inheritance, but you can create your personal means of transferring coins should you not be available to access it anymore.
Ideally, you should only store your funds on non custodian exchanges and ideally, you should also keep backups for all your funds, you can leave this backup available to your next of kins for them to discover, you can disclose the location to them.

If they are not cryptocurrency savvy, you can draw up a will with notes and guides on how to access it, this will be revealed to them should anything happen to you.

You can also create a timelocked transaction which would be sent to a specific address sometime in the future, you will at this point have revealed the details of the wallet to whoever the transaction should be going to.
2957  Other / Meta / Re: Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - get whitelisted for free on: July 21, 2021, 05:32:42 PM
My suggestion; Enable the newbies welcome message

The newbie welcome message is a proposition for a pop up message which would be visible to new members. Here theymos proposed a rough draft for what the contents of the message should be as well as an open thread for suggestions. That thread was created in 2018 and it's yet to be implemented as at now.

Theymos recently added this feature which allows regular members to whitelist newbies who are proxybanned if they are convinced that those members have not been banned before, this should help reduce innocent members having to pay an evil fee and still frustrate banned members trying to register. But for this to work I think the newbie welcome message would need to be implemented. If I were to stumble on a new forum and get a ban message right out of the blocks, I would probably not stick around long enough to find out ways around it, however if the pop up Welcome massage was up, I would have already read through the notifications, which would contain informations on that.
If the whitelisting option is not that accessible to new members, we would likely be getting mails mostly from already banned users.
2958  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free on: July 21, 2021, 04:03:19 PM
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They'll have the option to message some other users who are able to whitelist them if a certain user gets too busy, but Loyce is a bot and we should not have such issues  Grin

Here's my email for whitelisting;
Code:
whitelistby_upgrade00@protonmail.com

I'll be checking it fairly constantly and would keep a public log of users whitelisted for extra transparency.
2959  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - get whitelisted for free on: July 20, 2021, 09:53:34 PM
1. If I vouch for someone and he/she end up getting banned what chances do I have to vouch again?
Someone would only consider your vouch cause of your integrity, so each user puts that at stake each time they vouch for someone, if your integrity reduces so does the strength of your vouches.

3. What are the prophylactic measures put in place to make sure this system is not hijacked /abused by the vouchers? We know everything is tradeable nowadays.
Vouching is a personal addition of LoyceV, although I except other users with whitelisting powers to adot it. Vouchers do not really have anything to trade as their opinion is only as valid as other users view it.

P.S; I'll update this thread asap with my email address for whitelisting.
2960  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will bitcoin go down below $20,000. on: July 20, 2021, 09:39:17 PM
I personally was not expecting the market to dip this quickly or for this to be the end of the bull cycle, but the market is very unpredictable and cycle could change at any point in time.
Those investors who have experienced bear cycles in the past would be prepared should the market be heading towards there now, lower prices causes panic, but also presents an opportunity to buy more at cheaper prices, the best strategy would be not to view Bitcoin as an investment at all, but rather as a currency which gives freedom to it's holders; viewing Bitcoin from its qualities takes the attention off its price.
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